₦airaland Forum

IDENNAA:
The example you are using is not suitable for the comparison you are trying to make because U.S and U.K are in two different continents. Secondly, the time of separation are well documented and U.S speak English due to colonization but what could you tell us about Ikwerre and their "Bini" ancestry ?

Do you see how senseless you people sound ?

You're the one that sounds senseless here...trying to merge another mans ethnicity with yours...even when the said ethnicity is denying you pipo.....
#mk una leave another man ethnicity alone

IDENNAA:
It doesn't take a soothsayer to detect your abundant nothingness. Essentially, you have nothing meaningful to contribute other than the usual weak lines of abusing Igbo ,just because we got our act together and willing to demolish any concocted lies with strong provable facts.

Now , scram!

Keep wailing....na una usual job!!!
Till this World end, Ikwerre will never identify as Igbo cuz they're two different ethnic group....
xo f**k off!!!

kollinzgee:
My fellow etche , Ikwerre and ika brothers and sisters in this site let me tell you something.if Ikwerre and etche were carved into imo and Abia states we would be be claiming Igbos today.i once hate Igbos with passion because I believe they easily dominate wherever they go and they seem proud however I discover I was only hating on myself .I like digging deep and I found the truth which is we are a different dialects of the Igbo people.

I strongly believe The hatred and denial began during the civil war , because my father told me how ojukwu was conscripting ikwerre and etche children into the army against their parents will. most of the boys never came back home alive maybe they died in combat.he also said they denied being Igbos because they heard how Nigerian soldiers massacred innocent Igbo civilians whenever they conquered any territory
So denying Igbos was a way to save their ass because it was a genocidal war lets not let people separate us from our brothers nature will punish us for it. It's more like a North and South Korea thing political borders is just what separates us that's all.I

Bro the truth is that Igbos is coming to change things, we knew what happened during the war, Nigeria army told our brothers in rivers and delta to deny Igbo identity so that they can spare them from killing, they even promise them Igbos property in exchange, they brainwash them about Igbos, that we dont love them ,that we only want their oil, so many things, but we the youth will change it, ask yourself why history is removed from our school until today no school is allowed to teach history, Nigeria is only country in the world that refuses his own school to teach history or research about history, and the reasons is that they dont want our children to know their identity or to know about the evil war they fight to destroy Igbos forever but God pass them.

chiiraq802:
Ikwerre people never wanted to identify with Igbo's ... You people are the ones always doing the opposite.....
Una colonization for worst pass white....foolish pipo

What are your parasitic persons like Uche Okwukwu and Co doing in Ohanaeze Ndiigbo?

All over outside Rivers state, your people are leeching on Igbo diaspora organizations, in the North, SW and outside Nigeria.
How many Igbos are in your Ogbakor Ikwerre?
How many Igbos in the streets of Onitsha, Awka, Abakaliki, Okigwe, Nsukka, Enugu, Nnewi, even know that Ikwerre exists?

Blackking98:
Exactly, you don't see we ibibios forcing efiks in Cross river or Annang or Oro or eket even though we're atleast 80% the same. Everyone should be free to choose his path

But I have not seen Igbo forcing others to be Igbo too, because Igbo are over 45m.Why haven't they forced igala people in anambra to be Igbo. Other Nigerian tribes call these tribes Igbo.Pa Edwin clark a man in his 90s said Peter odili was Igbo man when obasanjo wanted him to vie for presidency. For instance Buhari said on national tv that Ibe kachukwu and CBN governor were representing Igbo and on body protested.The first coup was called Igbo coup by other tribes while Kaduna nzeogwu was from anioma in delta state.Ikwerre man is the Secretary of ohaneze via election not by kidnapping. Anioma man was once ohaneze President. What I want to advise these denying tribes is to change their language, names, villages and towns from the names we know Igbo for so that we stop calling you Igbo. As long as you as you speak Igbo, your towns and villages bear Igbo names, your traditional rulers bear eze/Obi you are all Igbo period

Igboid:
What are your parasitic persons like Uche Okwukwu and Co doing in Ohanaeze Ndiigbo?

All over outside Rivers state, your people are leeching on Igbo diaspora organizations, in the North, SW and outside Nigeria.
How many Igbos are in your Ogbakor Ikwerre?
How many Igbos in the streets of Onitsha, Awka, Abakaliki, Okigwe, Nsukka, Enugu, Nnewi, even know that Ikwerre exists?

Ikwerre people don't need you people to know that they exists, all they want is for you people to stop trying to merge them as Igbo.....
For God sake is that one a big deal kwaaa!!!
Stop trying to merge another mans ethnicity into yours...simple as ABC...

Igbo people: very confused set of people, Today we want Bia.fraud, Tomorrow President must come from South East, next tomorrow APC/PDD must field an Igbo man....taaaaaa!!!!

chiiraq802:
Ikwerre people don't need you people to know that they exists, all they want is for you people to stop trying to merge them as Igbo.....
For God sake is that one a big deal kwaaa!!!
Stop trying to merge another mans ethnicity into yours...simple as ABC...

Igbo people: very confused set of people, Today we want Bia.fraud, Tomorrow President must come from South East, next tomorrow APC/PDD must field an Igbo man....taaaaaa!!!!

Where are you from?

Let's start from there.

kollinzgee:
Bro don't take it personal I am not one of them when an etchie man leaves porthacourt he will know he is an Igbo man all my Yoruba friends here call me Igbo boy I have no choice.

I understand were u are coming from, I am anioma and from Idumuje-Unor and when i ask myself this question the only similarity with Igbo my community have is language nothing more

spiritmasquerad:
I understand were u are coming from, I am anioma and from Idumuje-Unor and when i ask myself this question the only similarity with Igbo my community have is language nothing more

Are all Igbo cultures the same?

kollinzgee:
Are all Igbo cultures the same?

Maybe but my community culture is more similar to Bini and even the village name is also a place in Bini

spiritmasquerad:
Maybe but my community culture is more similar to Bini and even the village name is also a place in Bini

Are you ika?idumuje unor sounds Igbo to me

Kind of like did you escort my home.I

kollinzgee:
Are you ika

No am from Idumuje-Unor

spiritmasquerad:
No am from Idumuje-Unor

The problem is if you are truly from Benin why is the no Benin traces in your language its impossible for a group of people to loose their mother tongue totally..and secondly don't forget the Benin colonised anioma during the era of great Benin empire it even reached onitsha. when people colonise you they impose their traditions on you just like the British colonised us and today we dress like them (suit and tie) and speak like them but yet we retained our mother tongue..

kollinzgee:
The problem is if you are truly from Benin why is the no Benin traces in your language its impossible for a group of people to loose their mother tongue totally..and secondly don't forget the Benin colonised anioma during the era of great Benin empire it even reached onitsha. when people colonise you they impose their traditions on you just like the British colonised us and today we dress like them (suit and tie) and speak like them but yet we retained our mother tongue..

That i do not know but the founder of our town was Ikeke who migrated from Bini from a community called Idumu-Ogie which is still there infact the name Idumuje is Esan

Philipxxxx0:
Bro the truth is that Igbos is coming to change things, we knew what happened during the war, Nigeria army told our brothers in rivers and delta to deny Igbo identity so that they can spare them from killing, they even promise them Igbos property in exchange, they brainwash them about Igbos, that we dont love them ,that we only want their oil, so many things, but we the youth will change it, ask yourself why history is removed from our school until today no school is allowed to teach history, Nigeria is only country in the world that refuses his own school to teach history or research about history, and the reasons is that they dont want our children to know their identity or to know about the evil war they fight to destroy Igbos forever but God pass them.

These are baseless and false if not what are your source

spiritmasquerad:
That i do not know but the founder of our town was Ikeke who migrated from Bini from a community called Idumu-Ogie which is still there infact the name Idumuje is Esan

Who told you that history and how long has it being told is it up to a thousand years
Thinking about this anioma Ikwere matter for make person run mad seff
..

duncun:
You're certain where the founder of your town migrated from, but you all have never done a critical research on how your forefathers were able to speak and retain igbo as a language up to your generation and not the language of the community you claimed.

Something a white kid could take as an assignment to research and come up with analytical and logical findings, a negro child will wait for him to be told.

Common critical thinking will give you a pointer about your history and what might have happened centuries ago. Smh Una funny sha

Woa why hate and beside i have been trying to do that research but the most notable 400 year ago when we needed a king but as you said "negro" don't write down history and the time of story is gone and was never effective since some part were removed to keep it interesting for the listner

kollinzgee:
Who told you that history and how long has it being told is it up to a thousand years
Thinking about this anioma Ikwere matter for make person run mad seff
..

It been sinced the 19th century but thinking about it now and how stressful it is combine with insult we get from ipob for knowing our history that's why when asked since we speak an Igboid we tell most people we are igbo because it very stressful to start explaining

duncun:
You're certain where the founder of your town migrated from, but you all have never done a critical research on how your forefathers were able to speak and retain igbo as a language up to your generation and not the language of the community you claimed.

Something a white kid could take as an assignment to research and come up with analytical and logical findings, a negro child will wait for him to be told.

Common critical thinking will give you a pointer about your history and what might have happened centuries ago. Smh Una funny sha

You know the most confusing part?How come the Igbo settlements is bigger than bini settlements, If you look at the map of western igboland it's Is far bigger than bini.so how can a parent land be smaller than the offspring.with my ration thought I just believe western and southern Igbos are just Igbo that crossed the river Niger to settle there maybe as a result of war ,exile or search for fertile land..

spiritmasquerad:
It been sinced the 19th century but thinking about it now and how stressful it is combine with insult we get from ipob for knowing our history that's why when asked since we speak an Igboid we tell most people we are igbo because it very stressful to start explaining

Please make more research its the same way yorubas are told their ancestors (oduduwa) fell from the sky ;Dwith snail shell and and hen something we know is impossible

kollinzgee:
Please make more research its the same way yorubas are told their ancestors (oduduwa) fell from the sky ;Dwith snail shell and and hen something we know is impossible

Bro am trying my best but the resources are very limited

MinorityOpinion:
Let me break it down for you, I like your approach OP, no insult, no abuse, it is quite strange to me but you have done well in that part.

Igbos only influenced the riverine tribes, they are not the same with igbos, Igbos are travellers so their culture and language must have dominated the small tribes of the riverine area they migrated to. I have a documented article by a British man that visited the area in 1800. Another thing is that dressing like igbos and speaking igbos doesn't mean they are igbos, for example look at Yoruba cousin, the Igala, they belong to Yoruboid group, they wear clothes that look like Yoruba dress, our language is quite similar to theirs, so can you tell me, are igalas in Anambra Yoruba?

I understand some of your point, your family may be one of earlier igbos immigrant and you said, your elders have said they are not Igbos you can't know more than your elders.

Thanks

This yoruba guy always claim he is from niger delta..
Today he forgot he is from niger delta. Keep up wit ur lies hard for you like this...

Urhobos are the most populated ethnic group in Delta. Facts over fiction.

chuka5000:
oghenechukwu be wise, how urhobo wey dey share Delta south with itsekiri isoko and ijaw take pass the whole of Delta north

spiritmasquerad:
Bro am trying my best but the resources are very limited

In this scenario genealogy test is the best swears..

duncun:
You're certain where the founder of your town migrated from, but you all have never done a critical research on how your forefathers were able to speak and retain igbo as a language up to your generation and not the language of the community you claimed.

Something a white kid could take as an assignment to research and come up with analytical and logical findings, a negro child will wait for him to be told.

Common critical thinking will give you a pointer about your history and what might have happened centuries ago. Smh Una funny sha

This is the best comment i have read on this thread

Facts!!!

Oghene1st:
Isoko was part of Urhobo until 1957 when Chief James Otobo influenced the creation during his tenure in Western House of Assembly, Ibadan.

Even till now, you won't hear any Isoko song without adding Urhobo to it. like 'Isoko and Urhobo' which shows that they still recognise the unity then. But still yet, Urhobo nor carry am for head like una Igbos. Igbos for worst pass white for colonialism.

Stop saying what you don't know.

Isoko were in times past known as eastern urhobos. Stop saying what you don't know.

Also, Okpe is NOT a distinct ethnic group YET. So until they become distinct and have their own identity they remain urhobos.

These are facts, not fiction and facts don't care about your feelings.

Igboid:
Isoko were always independent of Urhobo.
Every single colonial document recorded Isoko different from Urhobo. So don't make it look like Isoko pulled out of Urhobo. They were never part of the Urhobo union, even though a few Isoko persons played prominent role in UPU in the past, just as Clark Edwin despite being Ijaw, played a role in UPU of the old because his town Kiagbodo, even though are Ijaw claiming, speak Urhobo as first language because of their early entanglement with Olomo people.

Okpe people have many denials who will tell you openly that they are not Urhobos. The current Okpe traditional leaders might be pro Urhobo because of benefits from UPU, but what do you think would happen if a foreign force invades Urhobo land and retires the current traditional rulers while making the ones denying Urhobo tag the new rulers of Okpe or giving the current rulers ultimatum to either accept being non Urhobo or abdicate their thrones? Thats exactly what happened in Igboids areas of Rivers state.

For example, Eze Ogbuehi Francis Ellah became a pariah in Ogbaland at the hands of FG sponsored Igbo denials there, because he refused to end alliance with Igbo union.

chiiraq802:
Oga! Ikwerres are not Igbo's....if you google the list of Ethnic groups in Nigeria...You will definitely find Igbo and Ikwerre on same list....You pipo should stop all dis ya bragging nonsense...mk una leave other pipo ethnicity for hand....

What do you then say to the Secretary General of Ohanaeze, Barrister Uche Okwukwu, who is an Ikwerre man?

kollinzgee:
In this scenario genealogy test is the best swears..

That would be inaccurate due to intermarriage with community of Igbo decent that has been going on from when our people migrated from Bini

spiritmasquerad:
That would be inaccurate due to intermarriage with community of Igbo decent that has been going on from when our people migrated from Bini

Don't worry scientist have a way of handling that.many samples will be tested the dominant genes will determine the truth..

kollinzgee:
Don't worry scientist have a way of handling that.many samples will be tested the dominant genes will determine the truth..

That would be good