During my quiet moments,i always imagined what will happen after death.

Do we cease to be in existence,or there is afterlife?

I will appreciate different opinions on this. And if the moderators can be helpful in pushing it to frontpage for wider inputs. It would be appreciated.

The answers you ll get ll be arguement base on different individuals faith and doctrine which might even get you more confuse.

Wonder why all the different doctrines even when the bilble and quran is just one.

I actually posted something similar to these but it needed in disaster. So Op I hope you can defend yourself and i hope you'll get your answers.


Good morning OP

lagusboyyy:
During my quiet moments,i always imagined what will happen after death.

Do we cease to be in existence,or there is afterlife?

I will appreciate different opinions on this. And if the moderators can be helpful in pushing it to frontpage for wider inputs. It would be appreciated.

When you die on earth you are not going to "Nothingness" not just yet anyway.

But you are going to live in one of 2 houses OF YOUR CHOOSING to wit- 1) House of Torment and Gnashing of Teeths till your debt is Paid. Or

2) Life of Living Very Well in Joy and Laughter and Security and Sweetness and Pleasantness!

Dtruthspeaker:


When you die on earth you are not going to "Nothingness" not just yet anyway.

But you are going to live in one of 2 houses OF YOUR CHOOSING to wit- 1) House of Torment and Gnashing of Teeths till your debt is Paid. Or

2) Life of Living Very Well in Joy and Laughter and Security and Sweetness and Pleasantness!

so in your opinion,there is afterlife.

FACT or MYTH?

lagusboyyy:
so in your opinion,there is afterlife.

FACT or MYTH?

Fact baby, Fact as the warm bed under my back!

Missyajoke:
I actually posted something similar to these but it needed in disaster. So Op I hope you can defend yourself and i hope you'll get your answers.


Good morning OP

life is a mystery,just wanted different perspective about the subject matter.

Happy weekend to you.

Sunnymatey:
The answers you ll get ll be arguement base on different individuals faith and doctrine which might even get you more confuse.

Wonder why all the different doctrines even when the bilble and quran is just one.

Am not even looking at the angle of religion now.

Just want factual understanding of death.

lagusboyyy:
life is a mystery,just wanted different perspective about the subject matter.

Happy weekend to you.

Yeah, Life is a mystery BUT did you not hear that it is the Glory of God to Conceal a matter but it is the honour of kings to uncover it?

lagusboyyy:
life is a mystery,just wanted different perspective about the subject matter.

Happy weekend to you.

Okay.
Happy Weekend to you too.
Have a great day.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yeah, Life is a mystery BUT did you not hear that it is the Glory of God to Conceal a matter but it is the honour of kings to uncover it?

This is deep.

You return to the constituent materials that make you up and become part of the earth once more.
This is what we know happens 100%.

What happens to your consciousness and anything else is subject to speculation.

IMAliyu:
You return to the constituent materials that make you up and become part of the earth once more.
This is what we know happens 100%.

What happens to your consciousness and anything else is subject to speculation.

so you mean, we would be non-existent literally.

lagusboyyy:
Am not even looking at the angle of religion now.

Just want factual understanding of death.

Death is an illusion... Life is a circle, not a straight line..
Death is like a night between two days and life is like a day between two nights..

IMAliyu:
You return to the constituent materials that make you up and become part of the earth once more.
This is what we know happens 100%.

What happens to your consciousness and anything else is subject to speculation.

I concur 100%,..God is consciousness personified.. Our Conciousness becomes one with God. It was God who sent it fort to begin with... Most likely waiting for another opportunity to experience life again

lagusboyyy:
so you mean, we would be non-existent literally.

That's the thing, no one knows for certain what happens nor can they definitively prove it.

Western religions, believe that an underworld, hell or heaven exists. Based on your deeds

Eastern religions believe in reincarnation, so you're just returned to the world as another person or another being based on karma.

So which one is real? Or is neither real?

All you can do is focus on living a life you will be proud of, what ever comes after death comes.

A quote from the Roman philosopher Markus Aurelius "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

sonmvayina:


Death is an illusion... Life is a circle, not a straight line..
Death is like a night between two days and life is like a day between two nights..

" death is like a night between two days and life is like a day between two nights"

This is so deep, i would appreciate if you could break this down.

sonmvayina:


I concur 100%,..God is consciousness personified.. Our Conciousness becomes one with God. It was God who sent it fort to begin with... Most likely waiting for another opportunity to experience life again

This does seem to concur with the experience of people who've done psychedelic drugs. Which is speculated to be thesame substance released by the brain, when experiencing death.

The testimony of people who've had near death experience and people who've done DMT is this.
You're shot into a light out of your body into this other world, where you meet these other worldly creatures (some say they are gods, ancestors, aliens, or angels) which show you love and affection and you feel you've become one and thesame with the whole universe.
The interesting part is these people say that the experience is that other world feels realer than this current reality.
Although there exists about a 20% chance of having a bad trip and going through hell.
These experiences happen irrespective of a persons religion though.

IMAliyu:

That's the thing, no one knows for certain what happens nor can they definitively prove it.

Western religions, believe that an underworld, hell or heaven exists. Based on your deeds

Eastern religions believe in reincarnation, so you're just returned to the world as another person or another being based on karma.

So which one is real? Or is neither real?

All you can do is focus on living a life you will be proud of, what ever comes after death comes.

A quote from the Roman philosopher Markus Aurelius "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

Thats also the general belief i do hold, we should just try to be good while on earth, help the needy if we can, never wish our fellow humans bad.

But what would be dissapointing is if, the wicked people on earth escape afterlife punishment, that means they escaped with the evils they perpetrated on earth.

lagusboyyy:
During my quiet moments,i always imagined what will happen after death.

Do we cease to be in existence,or there is afterlife?

I will appreciate different opinions on this. And if the moderators can be helpful in pushing it to frontpage for wider inputs. It would be appreciated.

There is no death, what we call death is a transition to other plane of existence and this is not just a myth or wishful thinking, it is a proven fact that the so called dead are alive and retain their personality in their now plane of existence.
If you're serious about this topic, read/study the phenomenon called Mediumship.

lagusboyyy:
" death is like a night between two days and life is like a day between two nights"

This is so deep, i would appreciate if you could break this down.

One of the fundamental beliefs of Judaism is that life does not begin with birth, nor does it end with death. This is articulated in the verse in Kohelet (Ecclesiastes), “And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to G‑d, who gave it.”1

The Lubavitcher Rebbe would often point out that a basic law of physics (known as the First Law of Thermodynamics) is that no energy is ever “lost” or destroyed; it only assumes another form. If such is the case with physical energy, how much more so a spiritual entity such as the soul, whose existence is not limited by time, space, or any of the other delineators of the physical state. Certainly, the spiritual energy that in the human being is the source of sight and hearing, emotion and intellect, will and consciousness does not cease to exist merely because the physical body has ceased to function; rather, it passes from one form of existence (physical life as expressed and acted via the body) to a higher, exclusively spiritual form of existence.

While there are numerous stations in a soul’s journey, these can generally be grouped into four general phases:

I. The wholly spiritual existence of the soul before it enters the body;
2. Physical life;
3. Post-physical life in Gan Eden (the “Garden of Eden,” also called “Heaven” and “Paradise”);
4.the “world to come” (olam haba) that follows the resurrection of the dead.
What are these four phases, and why are all four necessary?

justlove91:


There is no death, what we call death is a transition to other plane of existence and this is not just a myth or wishful thinking, it is a proven fact that the so called dead are alive and retain their personality in their now plane of existence.
If you're serious about this topic, read/study the phenomenon called Mediumship.

I will do that.

Thanks for your input.

sonmvayina:


One of the fundamental beliefs of Judaism is that life does not begin with birth, nor does it end with death. This is articulated in the verse in Kohelet (Ecclesiastes), “And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to G‑d, who gave it.”1

The Lubavitcher Rebbe would often point out that a basic law of physics (known as the First Law of Thermodynamics) is that no energy is ever “lost” or destroyed; it only assumes another form. If such is the case with physical energy, how much more so a spiritual entity such as the soul, whose existence is not limited by time, space, or any of the other delineators of the physical state. Certainly, the spiritual energy that in the human being is the source of sight and hearing, emotion and intellect, will and consciousness does not cease to exist merely because the physical body has ceased to function; rather, it passes from one form of existence (physical life as expressed and acted via the body) to a higher, exclusively spiritual form of existence.

While there are numerous stations in a soul’s journey, these can generally be grouped into four general phases:

amazing!

Another angle to this. Thanks for the insight.

Guys pleas! Don't answer this question unless you are dead

What is death? This is best answered with another question: What is life?

Life is the integration of soul and body—the self and its physical vehicle—into a single entity. Death is the dissolution of body and soul into two separate entities—a separation of the spiritual self from that which was once a vehicle to that self . the self is the soul, not the body. The body will inevitably fail and The soul is eternal and indestructible. The stretch of physical time in which the soul resides within and acts through the body is just one phase—though a most important phase—of its existence, an existence which precedes physical life and extends beyond it. The soul of the person we knew and loved as a physical being on this earth continues to exist after his or her death, continues to be aware of that which transpires in our lives, and continues to be the recipient of our love and the positive actions we do on his or her behalf.

But also for the body, death is not the end. A fundamental principle of the Jewish faith is the belief in techiat ha-meitim, ("resurrection of the dead"--that in the future, divinely-perfect "World to Come," the soul will be restored to a rebuilt and revitalised body.

lagusboyyy:
" death is like a night between two days and life is like a day between two nights"

This is so deep, i would appreciate if you could break this down.

Life is a day that lies between two nights—the night of "not yet," before birth, and the night of "no more," after death. That day may be overcast with pain and frustration, or bright with warmth and contentment. But, inevitably, the night of death must arrive.

Death is a night that lies between two days—the day of life on earth and the day of eternal life in the world to come. That night may come suddenly, in the blink of an eye, or it may come gradually, with a slowly receding sun.

As the day of life is an interlude, so is the night of death an interlude. As the day inevitably proceeds to dusk, so does the darkness inevitably proceed to dawn. Each portion—the foetal existence, and life, and death, and eternal life—is separated by a veil which human understanding cannot pierce.

We, the survivors who do not accompany the deceased on their journey into the night, are left alone staring into the veiled, black void. There is a rage of conflicting emotions that seethes within us: bewilderment and paralysis, agony and numbness, guilt and anger, fear and futility and pain —and also emancipation from care and worry. The golden chain of the family link is broken and swings wildly before our eyes. Our whole being is convulsed. Love and warmth and hope have vanished, and in their place remains only despair. The precious soul that touched our life and enhanced its sense of purpose and meaning is no more. Our only consolation is that he once was. There is a past, but the past is no more; and the future is bleak indeed. The broken, swinging chain hypnotizes us and we are frozen.

The igbo omenala is a faith that embraces all of life, and death is a part of life. As this faith leads us through moments of joy, so does it guide us through the terrible moments of grief, holding us firm through the complex emotions of mourning, and bidding us turn our gaze from the night of darkness to the daylight of life.

At the moment of death painful questions gnaw at our innards—existential and philosophical problems so stubborn, they will not go away: Why was this person, of all the people that fill our great world, fated to end his days just now? Why did the end come before the logic of life ordained that it come? Death should be, we feel, a sum under the bottom line—a total of all of life's varied experiences. It should add up to a meaningful conclusion, and end naturally. It should not intrude in the midst of the equations of living, starkly disrupting all calculations, confusing all the figures, belying all the prepared solutions. But, too often, the end is abrupt. Life remains an unknown quality large, incalculable problem, bedevilled by death.

At the moment of death there is severe disorientation. We are perplexed not only by the large questions of life and death, but by problems of how to feel and how to conduct ourselves properly: How shall we react to the tragedy? What is the proper respect that we should give the dead? How do we achieve a measure of dignity during an interment? Shall we mourn the unfulfilled life of the deceased, torn away before finishing the business of living, or may we feel a loss to ourselves, agonizing over our own personal distress?

And how should we comfort ourselves? Should we appear before family and friends brave, dignified, courageously unruffled? Or may we give vent to our anguish in a stream of tears? Shall the usual amenities of a social occasion obtain at the gathering of the family, or should we concern ourselves with the soul-wound of our own loss and let the world manage for itself?

Thousands of years of our rich tradition provide us with direction during these moments of crisis. The accumulated wisdom of the ages is a source of great consolation.

In the pages that follow, you will find clear guidelines that the Jewish tradition has laid down to lead mourners through the complex maze of uncertainties and ambivalences that attend the tragic moment. The ache of the heart will not suddenly disappear. There will be no miraculous consolation. But our tradition does teach the aching heart how to express its pain in love and respect, and how to achieve the eventual consolation which will restore us to humanity and keep us from vindictiveness and self-pity.

sonmvayina:



Life is a day that lies between two nights—the night of "not yet," before birth, and the night of "no more," after death. That day may be overcast with pain and frustration, or bright with warmth and contentment. But, inevitably, the night of death must arrive.

Death is a night that lies between two days—the day of life on earth and the day of eternal life in the world to come. That night may come suddenly, in the blink of an eye, or it may come gradually, with a slowly receding sun.

As the day of life is an interlude, so is the night of death an interlude. As the day inevitably proceeds to dusk, so does the darkness inevitably proceed to dawn. Each portion—the foetal existence, and life, and death, and eternal life—is separated by a veil which human understanding cannot pierce.

We, the survivors who do not accompany the deceased on their journey into the night, are left alone staring into the veiled, black void. There is a rage of conflicting emotions that seethes within us: bewilderment and paralysis, agony and numbness, guilt and anger, fear and futility and pain —and also emancipation from care and worry. The golden chain of the family link is broken and swings wildly before our eyes. Our whole being is convulsed. Love and warmth and hope have vanished, and in their place remains only despair. The precious soul that touched our life and enhanced its sense of purpose and meaning is no more. Our only consolation is that he once was. There is a past, but the past is no more; and the future is bleak indeed. The broken, swinging chain hypnotizes us and we are frozen.

The igbo omenala is a faith that embraces all of life, and death is a part of life. As this faith leads us through moments of joy, so does it guide us through the terrible moments of grief, holding us firm through the complex emotions of mourning, and bidding us turn our gaze from the night of darkness to the daylight of life.

At the moment of death painful questions gnaw at our innards—existential and philosophical problems so stubborn, they will not go away: Why was this person, of all the people that fill our great world, fated to end his days just now? Why did the end come before the logic of life ordained that it come? Death should be, we feel, a sum under the bottom line—a total of all of life's varied experiences. It should add up to a meaningful conclusion, and end naturally. It should not intrude in the midst of the equations of living, starkly disrupting all calculations, confusing all the figures, belying all the prepared solutions. But, too often, the end is abrupt. Life remains an unknown quality large, incalculable problem, bedevilled by death.

At the moment of death there is severe disorientation. We are perplexed not only by the large questions of life and death, but by problems of how to feel and how to conduct ourselves properly: How shall we react to the tragedy? What is the proper respect that we should give the dead? How do we achieve a measure of dignity during an interment? Shall we mourn the unfulfilled life of the deceased, torn away before finishing the business of living, or may we feel a loss to ourselves, agonizing over our own personal distress?

And how should we comfort ourselves? Should we appear before family and friends brave, dignified, courageously unruffled? Or may we give vent to our anguish in a stream of tears? Shall the usual amenities of a social occasion obtain at the gathering of the family, or should we concern ourselves with the soul-wound of our own loss and let the world manage for itself?

Thousands of years of our rich tradition provide us with direction during these moments of crisis. The accumulated wisdom of the ages is a source of great consolation.

In the pages that follow, you will find clear guidelines that the Jewish tradition has laid down to lead mourners through the complex maze of uncertainties and ambivalences that attend the tragic moment. The ache of the heart will not suddenly disappear. There will be no miraculous consolation. But our tradition does teach the aching heart how to express its pain in love and respect, and how to achieve the eventual consolation which will restore us to humanity and keep us from vindictiveness and self-pity.

quite insightful and educative, but highly complex and trickish.

If i may ask, which religion do you practice sir?

lagusboyyy:
quite insightful and educative, but highly complex and trickish.

If i may ask, which religion do you practice sir?

I just follow God's laws to have a fulfilling and fruitful life..

lagusboyyy:
During my quiet moments,i always imagined what will happen after death.

Do we cease to be in existence,or there is afterlife?

I will appreciate different opinions on this. And if the moderators can be helpful in pushing it to frontpage for wider inputs. It would be appreciated.

NoBODY alive today knows for sure!

lagusboyyy:
During my quiet moments,i always imagined what will happen after death.

Do we cease to be in existence,or there is afterlife?

I will appreciate different opinions on this. And if the moderators can be helpful in pushing it to frontpage for wider inputs. It would be appreciated.

The Bible gives the most intelligent answer!

At death we seize to exist because we never live before God began his creative works so whoever doubts the beginning surely doesn't believe in the Creator.

He said from dust you (Adam) are and to dust you will return! Genesis 3:19
In his anger God said that, meaning he is the cause of Adam's existence and without his life support (breath of life or spirit) Adam is mere dust! Genesis 2:7
So at death all creatures return to dust and the force actuating our breath is taken back by the one who gave it! Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 12:7

Though intellectuals often challenge this because there are many books claiming inspired, and they felt it's preposterous just to accept the opinion of one out of thousands of other religious books.

That's why Jehovah's Witnesses encourages us to study the Bible with keen interest so as to be sure that we have the truth! John 17:17

So you can welcome a free home Bible study from one of our brothers who often comes to visit you at home, you'll be amazed that the book (Bible) has all the answers to life's most important questions! Proverbs 2:1-5

Kobojunkie:
NoBODY alive today knows for sure!

so you mean,we can only speculate?