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| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 9:53am On Jul 26, 2020 |
wunmi590:PLEASE READ THIS WITH YOUR BIBLE CLOSE BY AND AN OPEN MIND. Many people, however, think that Paul, the other apostles and the early Church changed the Sabbath day. But what does the record of the New Testament really say? “Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good” (Romanos 7:12). We have seen that Jesus Christ did not change God’s Sabbath day. On the contrary, throughout His ministry He showed the true purpose and intent of the Sabbath. Jesus often showed that the Sabbath, and particularly His teachings and actions on that day, prefigured the coming messianic age—the time of the Kingdom of God—as one of healing, freedom and restoration for all humanity. Jesus was a Sabbath-keeper. At the time of His death, His closest followers clearly observed the Sabbath, waiting until it was past to prepare His body for burial (Mateo 28:1; Marcos 16:1-2; Lucas 23:56; Lucas 24:1). Fifty days from Christ’s resurrection, many gathered for the Day of Pentecost, one of God’s seven annual Sabbaths or feasts observed in addition to the weekly Sabbath (Leviticus 23), and it was on that day that the New Testament Church was founded by the coming of the Holy Spirit (Hechos de los Apóstoles 2:1-4). The Bible shows no evidence of any change at Christ’s death and resurrection concerning God’s Sabbaths. We see only a continuation of Christ’s followers observing them just as He had done—despite the assertions of some to the contrary. Did Paul abolish the Sabbath? If the Sabbath, or any part of God’s law, was abolished or changed in the early New Testament Church, we should find clear evidence of such a dramatic shift in the New Testament writings. After all, the books of the New Testament were written in the first century over a period of decades ending in the 90s, more than 60 years after Jesus’ death and resurrection. Many who argue that the Sabbath was abolished in the New Testament point to the apostle Paul’s writings to justify their view. But is this opinion correct? They commonly cite three passages to support that claim—Romanos 14:5-6, Colosenses 2:16-17 and Gálatas 4:9-10. To properly understand these passages we must look at each in context, both in the immediate context of what is being discussed and in the larger social and historical context influencing the author and his audience at the time. We must also be careful not to read our preconceived notions into the text. With that in mind, let’s examine these passages and see if Paul indeed annulled or abolished Sabbath observance in his writings. First, let’s consider Paul’s own statements about God’s law. More than 25 years after the death of Jesus Christ, he wrote in Romanos 7:12, “Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.” In Romanos 2:13 he stated, “For not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified.” In Romanos 7:22 he said, “For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.” Many assume that once we have faith in Jesus Christ, we have no more need to keep the law. Paul himself addressed this concept in Romanos 3:31: “Do we then make void [Greek katargeo, meaning ‘destroy’ or ‘abolish’] the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish [Greek histemi, meaning ‘erect’ or ‘make to stand’] the law.” Faith does not abolish the law, said Paul; it establishes and upholds it. In Acts 24 he defended himself before the Roman governor Felix against charges of dissension and sedition brought by Jewish religious leaders. Replying to the accusations against him, he said, “I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets” (Hechos de los Apóstoles 24:14). Two years later he again defended himself against such accusations, this time before another Roman governor, Festus. “Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I offended in anything at all,” he responded to the charges against him (Hechos de los Apóstoles 25: .Here, some 25 to 30 years after Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection, Paul plainly said he believed “all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets” (terms used for the books of the Old Testament) and had done nothing against the law! In light of these clear statements, we should expect to find equally clear instructions regarding abolition of the Sabbath, if that had been Paul’s understanding and intent. But do we? Are all days of worship alike? In Romanos 14:5-6, Paul wrote: “One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.” From this statement, it could appear to some that Paul is saying that whatever day one chooses to rest and worship is irrelevant so long as one is “fully convinced in his own mind” and “observes it to the Lord.” Does this mean that the Sabbath is no different from any other day or that we are free to choose whatever day we wish to observe? Some 25 to 30 years after Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection, Paul plainly said he believed “all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets” (terms used for the books of the Old Testament) and had done nothing against the law! To come to that conclusion, one must read it into the verse, because the Sabbath is nowhere mentioned here. In fact, the word Sabbath or references to Sabbath-keeping are not found anywhere in the book of Romans. The reference here is simply to “days,” not the Sabbath or any other days of rest and worship commanded by God. Keep in mind that Paul, earlier in this same epistle, had written that “the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good,” that “the doers of the law will be justified,” and that he found “delight in the law of God” (Romanos 7:12; Romanos 2:13; Romanos 7:22). If he were saying in Romans 14 that Sabbath observance is irrelevant, such an assertion would be completely inconsistent with his other clear statements in this same letter..... https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/sunset-to-sunset-gods-sabbath-rest/was-the-sabbath-changed-in-the-new-testament |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by ODB2: 9:54am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Jesus coming has made the laws of Moses redundant The Sabbath is nonsense. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by orunto27: 9:55am On Jul 26, 2020 |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by ictplotter(m): 9:55am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Juliusmomoh:Gullible Christians! just accept, just accept. Can you accept, what you don't understand? That why one stupid apostle Saul or paul, who studied law in the university like every other lawyers. Where able to Brainwashed and scammed Christians with his epistles called new testament. God gave man Saturday as Sabbath day but Paul change it Sunday. Is Sabbath not a key fundamental in Christianity? Everything about Paul is for his own selfish again. Christianity is the religious of paul, hiding and blackmailing the good work of Jesus Christ. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 9:58am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Openbusiness4:So you don't believe he rested on the seventh day as written in the Bible? God rested on the seventh day to buttress the importance of the Sabbath. He took the human nature in that act and that doesn't invalidate his eternal nature. Remember that Christ took the human nature to pay for our sins. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by orunto27: 9:59am On Jul 26, 2020 |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Nobody: 9:59am On Jul 26, 2020 |
dalass:As a good student, you should be able to know that God didn't actually intend for the 7th day to be used as a day for him to be worshipped. He actually rested on the 7th day after completing all creation and He saw it was perfect. The seventh day came into context when God was giving the 10 commandment as a day no one was expected to work. All were advised to stay indoors (if am not mistaken Exodus 20 verse 9 downwards) But the Israelites saw that this day being a day of the lord should be used to worship him. But after Jesus Christ ressurection the day of worship automatically change (not to the Jews) but the followers of Christ. Although the Jews always observed the Sabbath day based on the fact that they did not believe in Christ They still continued to worship on the Sabbath day but a after the early Christians , the new church really emphasized on the first day of the week. (Gotta do a research on this) |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by orunto27: 10:01am On Jul 26, 2020 |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 10:03am On Jul 26, 2020 |
phemmyfour:Please quote the Bible passage where Jesus redefined the Sabbath. I want to learn. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Sampalo: 10:04am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Sabbath is Saturday, but Christianity has changed everything in their religion from truth to falsehood |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 10:08am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Masonkaycares:You really need to do a research on how the Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday. It was not immediately after Christ's resurrection as people often say. Read about the convertion to Christianity of Pagan Rome and Constantine the great. You will understand that Sunday worship has more to do with Idol worship than Christianity. I don't want to be the one to tell you. You will believe it if you read it yourself. Thank God for the internet. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Sampalo: 10:08am On Jul 26, 2020 |
ictplotter:No one said it better, you are very on point. You have sound knowledge unlike the Gullible ones. Spits |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Nobody: 10:09am On Jul 26, 2020 |
chibjohn:Constantine was the name I was trying to remember. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by goodluck192: 10:12am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Genesis 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. Luke 4:16 He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. Isa 56:5-6 To them I will give within my temple and its walls a memorial and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that will endure forever. And foreigners who bind themselves to the Lord to minister to him, to love the name of the Lord, and to be his servants, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant. Mark 1:32 That evening after sunset the people brought to Jesus all the sick and demon-possessed. The whole town gathered at the door ........... Luke 24 : 1-2 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb. Mark 16 : 1-2 When the Sabbath was over, [/b]Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body. [b]Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb Ezekiel 20 : 12, 20 Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy. Vs. 20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.” Many of us claim that any day can be observed as Sabbath, yet they don't celebrate their birthday before the exact day. God is a God of order. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by MikeBetty(m): 10:12am On Jul 26, 2020 |
You Have No Option Than To Observe The Lord's Sabbath Day Holy. Sabbath Day Does Not Change. God Was Specific In Ex. 20:8. He Did Not Give Us Options, It Is Dogmatic, It is Not Subject To Human Amendment. Romans Bended The Gods' Day To suit there idol Worship Of sun-god. Dan. 7:25. It Is Better For Heaven And Earth To Pass Away Than A Jot Of God's Word not To Be Fulfilled. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Juliusmomoh: 10:13am On Jul 26, 2020 |
ictplotter:U got it all wrong sir... Paul was not the one who change it sunday o ...... Everything about the life of JESUS happen on sunday ... That is why ... Paul is innocent...... Just accept JESUS as u lord and STOP judging paul |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by StubbornGENIUS: 10:14am On Jul 26, 2020 |
The day you set aside for worshipping the almighty. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Image123(m): 10:15am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Sampalo:Sabbath simply means rest or day of rest. Sometimes in the Old Testament, they had week of rest or even year of rest. The day of rest was observed by the Jews on the seventh day. Christians observe their Day of worship on Sundays. Worship is technically every day though, but practically, churches meet to worship on the first day of the week. Every day is the day that the Lord has made. If you like, worship on Tuesday or rest on Thursday. What God wants from you is faith and holiness, not calendar debates. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by orunto27: 10:18am On Jul 26, 2020 |
gift2xl:. Ok Sir, here you are:- Monday is Day of Light Tuesday is Day of Goodness Wednessday is Day of Life Thursday is Day of Faith Friday is Day of Hope Saturday is Day of Peace and Sunday is The Day of Love 'cos Majesty is The Father of Love and Worship is Its Mother. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by goodluck192: 10:18am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Genesis 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. Luke 4:16 He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. Isa 56:5-6 To them I will give within my temple and its walls a memorial and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that will endure forever. And foreigners who bind themselves to the Lord to minister to him, to love the name of the Lord, and to be his servants, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant. Mark 1:32 That evening after sunset the people brought to Jesus all the sick and demon-possessed. The whole town gathered at the door ........... Luke 24 : 1-2 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb. Mark 16 : 1-2 When the Sabbath was over, [/b]Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body. [b]Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb Ezekiel 20 : 12, 20 Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy. Vs. 20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.” Many of us claim that any day can be observed as Sabbath, yet they don't celebrate their birthday before the exact day. God is a God of order. chibjohn: |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by MuttleyLaff: 10:21am On Jul 26, 2020 |
dalass: MuttleyLaff:"The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" - Mark 2:27 Jesus, in Mark 2:27 above, was teaching the principle about the Sabbath rest, that it was instituted to relieve man of his labors, just as He came to relieve us of our attempting to achieve salvation by our works. As it is now, we no longer rest for only one day, but we forever stop our laboring to attain God’s favor by ourself, by our own works oand/or by our own righteousness/merit. Jesus is our Sabbath rest from works now, just as He is the door to heaven, where we will rest in Him forever dalass:Yes, I observe the Sabbath, I in fact observe it, in some many other ways, asides day dalass:It isn't restricted or limited to Friday Saturday or Sunday dalass:It is as the spirit leads dalass:I dont think they've been allowed to dalass:Same to you Finallydead: Dtruthspeaker:Dtruthspeaker, as for me, Yahusha is my/our Sabbath Just out of curiosity, dalass, Dtruthspeaker and Finallydead: 1/ How do you guys/ladies, connect and relate Genesis 2:3 and Hebrews 4:1-6 together and with each other? Mind the former in Aramaic/Hebrew and the latter is in Greek. 2/ How did God in Genesis 2:3 rest? 3/ What is Hebrews 4:1-6 taking about in terms of "enter that rest" and/or "enter My rest"? |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by victorazyvictor(m): 10:30am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Saturday to Sunday |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by ictplotter(m): 10:35am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Juliusmomoh:Mathew 12vs40: For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man "Jesus" will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. This biblical verse clearly show, that Jesus was raised from death on Monday morning. And easter was suppose to be on Monday not Sunday. Jesus was killed on Friday, now do the simple calculation urself. Since the above verse said three night, that mean Jesus dead body was his grave for friday night, Saturday night and Sunday night and resurrection took place on Monday morning. The resurrection was changed to Sunday, because that was the god Paul worshipped then. The god of the sun. Go and understand the Bible, nothing about Jesus Christ happen on Sunday. They shifted everything to Sunday, because it a day named after one of their famous idol, the gods of the sun. |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Onekind04(m): 10:37am On Jul 26, 2020 |
It doesn't mean we shouldn't work on Sunday. But why is Sunday the Sabbath ? |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by jubrilELsudan: 10:40am On Jul 26, 2020 |
A DAY TO REST FROM ALL THE FVCKING AND CUMING IN HER MOUTH.
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| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Juliusmomoh: 10:41am On Jul 26, 2020 |
ictplotter:U are still a baby christain bro.... Accept CHRIST and that is all |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Openbusiness4: 10:41am On Jul 26, 2020 |
chibjohn:Christ took our nature when he became "flesh and blood". God didn't take your nature when he rested on the 7th day. Stop confusing yourself. Don't just read your Bible, "study" it and let it teach you. God's Sabbath is eternity. When a person "dies" he enters into the Sabbath of God. He stops "working" or applying his own energy or power. He enters a realm where everything functions by the divine energy of God, so he is at rest permanently. He doesn't need to do anything. Everything has been taken care of. This is the "rest" we talk about when people say "Rest in peace". But there's no rest for the wicked (scripture and literally), so there will be no Sabbath for the wicked. The religious Sabbath of Sunday or Saturday resting, is not the same as the true Sabbath. The religious Sabbath was introduced just to be a religious provision in Judaism for Judaists to have a time set apart they congregrate for their religious activity. In reality it is not a day of "rest". It is a day of religion. Do you rest when you are clapping in church or dancing and singing, is that rest? Or do you rest when burning incense as a Jewish adherent, or performing the worship rituals to God? You're still working. This was why Jesus rebuked the Pharisees when they accused him of breaking the Sabbath when he healed a man on the "Sabbath Day". They said he was working, he wasn't meant to work. But Jesus rebuked them and dismissed their accusations as false. Why? Because he knew what the real Sabbath is, and he knew what the Sabbath for religion is, a day you work the works of God. It is a religious work day, not a day of rest. There is no rest in the religious Sabbath. But the true Sabbath of God is the true rest and it is an eternal day, not 24 hours. Hebrews 3:11, NIV: "So I declared on oath in my anger, 'They shall never enter my rest.''" Hebrews 3:11, ESV: "As I swore in my wrath, ‘They shall not enter my rest.’”" Hebrews 3:11, KJV: "So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)" Hebrews 3:11, NASB: "AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH, 'THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.''" Hebrews 3:11, NLT: "So in my anger I took an oath: 'They will never enter my place of rest.''" Hebrews 3:11, CSB: "So I swore in my anger, "They will not enter my rest."" Hebrews 4:9, NIV: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;" Hebrews 4:9, ESV: "So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God," Hebrews 4:9, KJV: "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God." Hebrews 4:9, NASB: "So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God." Hebrews 4:9, NLT: "So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God." Hebrews 4:9, CSB: "Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God's people." |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by Mikeparlo12(m): 10:46am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Saturday is the sabbath |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by phemmyfour: 10:47am On Jul 26, 2020 |
chibjohn:read down the thread |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by phemmyfour: 10:48am On Jul 26, 2020 |
chibjohn:read down the thread if you really want to learn |
| Re: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 11:00am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Openbusiness4:I give up on your case bro. You have it all mixed up. May God open your eyes to the true meaning of His words |
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