Dark S3 went into a more convulated sequence than S1 and S2 but once things got going, events that occur in S1 and S2 became so so clear. What a brilliant show and their concept of time travel, Bootstrap paradox and quantum entanglement was top notch. This show will be relevant for a long time... overall a properly done show..

hellohgy:



There is no such thing as an objectively good or bad movie, Movies are meant to give us an experience and because we all have different tastes and opinions, we'll each have different experiences with the same film (Some positive, some negative).

Some people like to make fun of people who dislike a film that's beloved or considered a classic or love a movie that is divisive or wildly hated. This is ridiculous. Because all film is subjective, we'll all have several films where we disagree with the general consensus.

I have people that dont like watching ANIMES....they just dont understand it....

It's one thing to not like a beloved classic or like certified trash. That's subjective.
Where objectivity comes in is when you try to trash the classic just because you don't like it or glorify trash because you like it.

hellohgy:



There is no such thing as an objectively good or bad movie, Movies are meant to give us an experience and because we all have different tastes and opinions, we'll each have different experiences with the same film (Some positive, some negative).

Some people like to make fun of people who dislike a film that's beloved or considered a classic or love a movie that is divisive or wildly hated. This is ridiculous. Because all film is subjective, we'll all have several films where we disagree with the general consensus.

I have people that dont like watching ANIMES....they just dont understand it....

Please, answer this simple question,

Is 'A' an objectively good grade or subjective?

Your answer will determine if I should proceed, or abstain from the debate.

Mr robot didn't get any emmy actor nominations...fooking hell

nani667:
Episode 11 ➕

3.4gb for one episode

The Emmys are back. What do you think?

Brukx:
The Emmys are back. What do you think?

Ozark is winning this bruh

Outstanding Drama Series
“Better Call Saul”
“The Crown”
“The Handmaid’s Tale”
“Killing Eve”
“The Mandalorian”
“Ozark”
“Stranger Things”
“Succession”

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Drama Series
Jason Bateman, “Ozark”
Sterling K Brown, “This Is Us”
Steve Carell, “The Morning Show”
Brian Cox, “Succession”
Billy Porter, “Pose”
Jeremy Strong, “Succession”

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Drama Series
Jennifer Aniston, “The Morning Show”
Olivia Colman, “The Crown”
Jodie Comer, “Killing Eve”
Laura Linney, “Ozark”
Sandra Oh, “Killing Eve”
Zendaya, “Euphoria”

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Drama Series
Nicholas Braun "Succession"
Billy Crudup "The Morning Show"
Kieran Culkin "Succession"
Mark Duplass "The Morning Show"
Giancarlo Esposito* "Better Call Saul"
Matthew Macfadyen "Succession"
Bradley Whitford "The Handmaid's Tale"
Jeffrey Wright "Westworld"

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Drama Series
Helena Bonham Carter "The Crown"
Laura Dern "Big Little Lies"
Julia Garner "Ozark"
Thandie Newton "Westworld"
Fiona Shaw "Killing Eve"
Sarah Snook "Succession"
Meryl Streep "Big Little Lies"
Samira Wiley "The Handmaid's Tale"

Outstanding Directing For A Drama Series

The Crown • Aberfan
The Crown • Cri de Coeur
Homeland • Prisoners Of War
The Morning Show • The Interview
Ozark • Fire Pink
Ozark • Su Casa Es Mi Casa
Succession • Hunting
Succession • This Is Not For Tears

Outstanding Comedy Series
“Curb Your Enthusiasm”
“Dead to Me”
“SNL”
“Insecure”
“The Kominsky Method”
“The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel”
“Schitt’s Creek”
“What We Do in the Shadows”

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Comedy Series
Anthony Anderson, “Black-ish”
Don Cheadle, “Black Monday”
Ted Danson, “The Good Place”
Michael Douglas, “The Kominsky Method”
Eugene Levy, “Schitt’s Creek”
Ramy Youssef, “Ramy”

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Comedy Series
Christina Applegate, “Dead to Me”
Rachel Brosnahan, “The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel”
Linda Cardellini, “Dead to Me”
Catherine O’Hara, “Schitt’s Creek”
Issa Rae, “Insecure”
Traces Ellis Ross, “Black-ish”

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Comedy Series
Mahershala Ali "Ramy"
Alan Arkin "The Kominsky Method"
Andre Braugher "Brooklyn Nine-Nine"
Sterling K. Brown "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel"
William Jackson Harper "The Good Place"
Daniel Levy "Schitt's Creek"
Tony Shalhoub "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel"
Kenan Thompson "Saturday Night Live"

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Comedy Series
Alex Borstein "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel Prime"
D'Arcy Carden "The Good Place"
Betty Gilpin "GLOW"
Marin Hinkle "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel"
Kate McKinnon "Saturday Night Live"
Annie Murphy "Schitt's Creek"
Yvonne Orji "Insecure"
Cecily Strong "Saturday Night Live"

Outstanding Directing For A Comedy Series
The Great • The Great (Pilot)
The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel • It's Comedy Or Cabbage
The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel • Marvelous Radio
Modern Family • Finale Part 2
Ramy • Miakhalifa.mov
Schitt's Creek • Happy Ending

Outstanding Limited Series
“Little Fires Everywhere”
“Mrs. America”
“Unbelievable”
“Unorthodox”
“Watchmen”

Outstanding Television Movie
American Son
Bad Education
Dolly Parton's Heartstrings:These Old Bones
El Camino: A Breaking Bad
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt: Kimmy vs. The Reverend

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Limited Series Or Movie
Jeremy Irons, “Watchmen”
Hugh Jackman, “Bad Education”
Paul Mescal, “Normal People”
Jeremy Pope, “Hollywood”
Mark Ruffalo, “I Know This Much Is True”

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Limited Series Or Movie
Cate Blanchette, “Mrs. America”
Shira Haas, “Unorthodox”
Regina King, “Watchmen”
Octavia Spencer, “Self Made”
Kerry Washington, “Little Fires Everywhere”

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Limited Series Or Movie
Yahya Abdul-Mateen II "Watchmen"
Jovan Adepo "Watchmen"
Tituss Burgess "Unbreakable KimmySchmidt: Kimmy vs. TheReverend"
Louis Gossett Jr. "Watchmen"
Dylan McDermott "Hollywood"
Jim Parsons "Hollywood"

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Limited Series Or Movie
Uzo Aduba "Mrs. America"
Toni Collette "Unbelievable"
Margo Martindale "Mrs. America"
Jean Smart "Watchmen"
Holland Taylor "Hollywood"
Tracey Ullman "Mrs. America"

Outstanding Directing For A Limited Series, Movie Or Dramatic Special
Little Fires Everywhere • Find A Way
Normal People • Episode 5
Unorthodox • Netflix
Watchmen • It’s Summer And We’re Running Out Of Ice
Watchmen • Little Fear Of Lightning
Watchmen • This Extraordinary Being

Outstanding Animated Program
Big Mouth • Disclosure The Movie: The Musical!
Bob's Burgers • Pig Trouble In Little Tina
BoJack Horseman • The View From Halfway Down
Rick And Morty • The Vat Of Acid Episode
The Simpsons • Thanksgiving Of Horror

Outstanding Variety Talk Series
“The Daily Show”
“Full Frontal”
“Jimmy Kimmel Live”
“Last Week Tonight”
“The Late Show”

Outstanding Variety Sketch Series
"A Black Lady Sketch Show"
"Drunk History Comedy Central"
"Saturday Night Live"

Outstanding Competition Program
“The Masked Singer”
“Nailed It!”
“RuPaul’s Drag Race”
“Top Chef”
“The Voice”

dubylhover:


Ozark is winning this bruh

Ozark all the way

Brukx:
The Emmys are back. What do you think?

This is a tough one. All the nominated shows are solid, but I'm partial to Succession. My heart wants it to win, but my head knows Ozark is probably gonna win.

make una stop to dey mention me.

Better Call Saul is winning this ..

Mr Robot
HTGAWM

These two guys were snobbed

Season 8 of Homeland

Awesome season so far. It has the potential to become my favorite season after season 1 and 2. I'm still at episode 6.

Vexatious:


This is a very short-sighted perspective.

Quality is objective, and since quality is objective, then taste is also objective.

A pepper is spicy. Salt is salty. Sugar is sugary. Kolanut is bitter. These are all objective takes on food stuffs. No one has ever tasted a salt and say that it's bitter, or sugary.

Likewise, a quality show can be simplified as one with high production values and good script. Objectively, it's a good show.

Thus, dissing a quality show and qualifying it as trash is same as tasting a salt and saying it's bitter.

Ergo, it's wrong to justify bad taste by using the "tastes are subjective" excuse, because, technically, it's false. Taste is objective.

You cannot force your taste on people... People are different... I explained everything in my last post. A good show to you might be trash to another.. And vice versa. Just like it's being argued here about OZARK. Personally, I like OZARK ( I have seen Seasons 1 and 2)... But some other people here do not like it, so will i now force them to like what's not their taste? All i am saying is that it's a free world. Allow people like what they like... Live and let live, that's how it is done in a civilized society. We must not all like the same things.

Breaking bad still breaking records.


The grestest TV show of all time.

jiggaz:
You cannot force your taste on people... People are different... I explained everything in my last post. A good show to you might be trash to another.. And vice versa. Just like it's being argued here about OZARK. Personally, I like OZARK ( I have seen Seasons 1 and 2)... But some other people here do not like it, so will i now force them to like what's not their taste? All i am saying is that it's a free world. Allow people like what they like... Live and let live, that's how it is done in a civilized society. We must not all like the same things.

At this point, it just about seems you don't really understand objectivity and subjectivity and/or the difference between them.

dubylhover:


Baba,I watch dark one episode per day oo..and its not like I watch it straight..

lol... exactly how I watch mine...we are both on the same boat..

Godfather of Harlem is the most underrated series in 2019

Last episode of Yellowstone is so touching.

All the struggles, all for nothing.

Kaycee7:
At this point, it just about seems you don't really understand objectivity and subjectivity and/or the difference between them.

I perfectly understood him. He's talking about OBSERVED FACT and PERSONAL OPINION. What i was trying to make him understand was to leave people to their opinion. He shouldn't force ideas on them. If they say they love trash according to him, so be it. Let's not overflog things. My point is live and let live.

dubylhover:


Ozark is winning this bruh

Nahh... It's Succession that's winning it.

oyaskii:
Dark S3 went into a more convulated sequence than S1 and S2 but once things got going, events that occur in S1 and S2 became so so clear. What a brilliant show and their concept of time travel, Bootstrap paradox and quantum entanglement was top notch. This show will be relevant for a long time... overall a properly done show..

I hate bootstrap paradox, I think its a stupid theory, they used it in futureman and it totally ruined the show, once I found out that dark was adopting the same theory I lost interest in the show.

hellohgy:



There is no such thing as an objectively good or bad movie, Movies are meant to give us an experience and because we all have different tastes and opinions, we'll each have different experiences with the same film (Some positive, some negative).

Some people like to make fun of people who dislike a film that's beloved or considered a classic or love a movie that is divisive or wildly hated. This is ridiculous. Because all film is subjective, we'll all have several films where we disagree with the general consensus.

I have people that dont like watching ANIMES....they just dont understand it....

Y'all keep Bashing this fella but he made a valid point.
What rocks your ship can sink my boat, I agree with the point that there are no good or bad movies. The acting might be be great with a very bad script and vice versa.
Some watch just because their favourite actor or actress stars in it.
We condemn 9ja movies here a lot but I've seen people who can't do without them. It's all about perspective.
We all have different points of views.

Eg
This fella below has a different perspective but I think the show is great.

johnyace:
I hate bootstrap paradox, I think its a stupid theory, they used it in futureman and it totally ruined the show, once I found out that dark was adopting the same theory I lost interest in the show.

Here is a real Nigga

jiggaz:
I perfectly understood him. He's talking about OBSERVED FACT and PERSONAL OPINION. What i was trying to make him understand was to leave people to their opinion. He shouldn't force ideas on them. If they say they love trash according to him, so be it. Let's not overflog things. My point is live and let live.

jiggaz:
I perfectly understood him. He's talking about OBSERVED FACT and PERSONAL OPINION. What i was trying to make him understand was to leave people to their opinion. He shouldn't force ideas on them. If they say they love trash according to him, so be it. Let's not overflog things. My point is live and let live.

Nah, you didn't understand him, at all. And you probably didn't even read my first explanation to you.

johnyace:
I hate bootstrap paradox, I think its a stupid theory, they used it in futureman and it totally ruined the show, once I found out that dark was adopting the same theory I lost interest in the show.

I agree the bootstrap paradox was what made the series more harder to decipher and enjoy, but it was the only way they could explain all the time travel warp that was going on like someone been their own great great grandfather and great great grandson at the same time.

Naah..."I Know This Much is True" broke me emotionally..What a flawless performance by Mark Ruffalo and i wouldn't mind if he gets "Outstanding lead actor in a limited series or movie" at the Emmys...Heads up tho, The series is downright sad.

Moneyboyz:


Y'all keep Bashing this fella but he made a valid point.
What rocks your ship can sink my boat, I agree with the point that there are no good or bad movies. The acting might be be great with a very bad script and vice versa.
Some watch just because their favourite actor or actress stars in it.
We condemn 9ja movies here a lot but I've seen people who can't do without them. It's all about perspective.
We all have different points of views.

Eg
This fella below has a different perspective but I think the show is great.



Here is a real Nigga

Thanks bro...

hellohgy:



There is no such thing as an objectively good or bad movie, Movies are meant to give us an experience and because we all have different tastes and opinions, we'll each have different experiences with the same film (Some positive, some negative).

Some people like to make fun of people who dislike a film that's beloved or considered a classic or love a movie that is divisive or wildly hated. This is ridiculous. Because all film is subjective, we'll all have several films where we disagree with the general consensus.

I have people that dont like watching ANIMES....they just dont understand it....

Thank you bro... That's the explanation.

jiggaz:
You cannot force your taste on people... People are different... I explained everything in my last post. A good show to you might be trash to another.. And vice versa. Just like it's being argued here about OZARK. Personally, I like OZARK ( I have seen Seasons 1 and 2)... But some other people here do not like it, so will i now force them to like what's not their taste? All i am saying is that it's a free world. Allow people like what they like... Live and let live, that's how it is done in a civilized society. We must not all like the same things.

I'll give it another shot, and then I'll abstain from the debate. No point in debating a topic with people that don't understand you.

•••••••••

Quality is objective, irrespective of your personal bias.

Basically, "A" grade is objectively a good grade, while "F" is objectively a bad grade. Why are these grades considered objectively good and bad? They are objective since the measurement schemes used to verify them are based on common standards.

Likewise, an objectively good show is one that has good writing and good production value, while an objectively bad show is one that has bad writing and bad production value. These are based on collective norms/common standards.

People like what they like and consequently, some might be drawn to shows with the bad writing and production because they offer more entertainment than the ones with good writing and production, but their personal bias don't/won't change the objectivity of these shows, since these shows are still objectively bad and good respectively, based on collective norms.

For instance, I loved 6 Underground, one of the most ridiculous and poorly written movie I've seen, because it's a fun movie. But I recognize that it's poorly written, and if you go online and see the reviews & ratings, you'd see that it's an objectively bad movie in every way.

Another example-- I hated the Godfather, not because it's not a masterpiece, but because it's outdated. But most importantly, I recognize that it's a great movie and one of the best of all time.

What I'm trying to say is it's fine to not like something, but it's important to judge how well a show/movie does what it's trying to, regardless of whether you liked it or not, that's all.

Good day.

jiggaz:
I perfectly understood him. He's talking about OBSERVED FACT and PERSONAL OPINION. What i was trying to make him understand was to leave people to their opinion. He shouldn't force ideas on them. If they say they love trash according to him, so be it. Let's not overflog things. My point is live and let live.

Sorry bro, but you didn't understand me at all.