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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by femi4: 8:53pm On Aug 02, 2020
potent5:
Don't mind them with their deceptive teachings.
I taya for them o.
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 8:53pm On Aug 02, 2020
femi4:
Church wasn't mentioned in your Bible?

I m sure " Kingdom hall" wasn't mentioned in my Bible but I can find "Church" , "assembly" and "Synagogue" there

The Greek word, from which the word “Church” is translated “Ekklesia”, This word “Ekklesia” is found 118 times in the New Testament Scriptures, translated 85 times, in the singular, “Church”; 35 times, in the plural, “Churches”; and three times “Assembly”.

The word “Assembly” is used in Acts 19:32, 39 and 41. The Greek word, “Ekklesia”, means “Called-out”, and suggests a called-out company, or a gathering, or an assembly. Thus we can see the unfortunate translation, “Church.” It would have been far better had the word “Ekklesia” been translated, “Called-out” or “Assembly”, all 118 times.


If you need more references, you can ask

Congregation , Church or Assembly are synonyms for a gathering of believers.

The kingdom Hall is a building bearing a name.
Is that a crime?
Kingdom Hall is not the Church, Congregation or Assembly or Ekklesia , whichever you prefer.

Shalom
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 8:54pm On Aug 02, 2020
femi4:
I taya for them o.

Go and learn, no dull yourself
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 8:56pm On Aug 02, 2020
what you attached said that there are more enough proofs in the Bible showing the Divinity of Christ apart from the one you disputed..

I will not argue with a dogmatic person. nothing I say will make any difference.. only the Holy Spirit in His mercy can show you the light.. He is indeed merciful, even to those who deny his personality..

Janosky:


Bros, the studylight.org screenshot says Acts 20:28 is not PROOF for your false claim of Jesus is God.

I gave you 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV, another Trinitarian FRAUD.
John 5:37 & John 6:46 please quote the words of Jesus Christ for me.
Jesus Christ RUBBISHED your claim grin grin
Bros, You no see am ?
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by femi4: 8:57pm On Aug 02, 2020
Janosky:


Go and learn, no dull yourself
you need to unlearn and re-learn
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Clonus: 9:00pm On Aug 02, 2020
manando1:
Point 3 made me to stop reading this , and may I please invite you to Lord Jesus Christ please accept him as your Lord and saviour Stop deceiving yourself
Did you read the Bible portions cited?
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:02pm On Aug 02, 2020
sonofElElyon:
what you attached said that there are more enough proofs in the Bible showing the Divinity of Christ apart from the one you disputed..

I will not argue with a dogmatic person. nothing I say will make any difference
.. only the Holy Spirit in His mercy can show you the light.. He is indeed merciful, even to those who deny his personality..

Such as the FRAUD in 1Timothy 3:16.
Please name one person in your Bible who your own holy spirit showed mercy
grin grin

I challenge you to mention one Scripture in that screenshot which studylight.org claimed supported your FRAUD claims.
The point must be made Very clear:
Study light.org your Trinity Comrade RUBBISHED your FALSE claim on Acts20:28 grin

Why you refused to quote the words of Jesus Christ at John 5:37 and 6:46?

If the words of Jesus Christ is dogma to you, na your own problem be that.

Shalom
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by omoharry(f): 9:13pm On Aug 02, 2020
xynerise:
Seriously, we don't need all these different denominational doctrines arguments as Christians. If you don't have Love for God and your neighbours, you are wasting your fucking time even if your church has the best practices. ..

Ignorant Christians
Thank you. That was well said .
So many Christians and so called men of God will not make heaven becos they don’t have love in their heart toward their neighbors .
The Bible said “above all, love your neighbor as your self but that is not what is obtainable in christaindom.
So many Christians have it all wrong about making heaven
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:13pm On Aug 02, 2020
femi4:
you need to unlearn and re-learn

Wetin Janosky wan learn for Trinity GIBBERISH?
grin grin
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Dannonye(f): 9:13pm On Aug 02, 2020
Y'all over think in JW fr
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:15pm On Aug 02, 2020
omoharry:
Thank you. That was well said .
So many Christians and so called men of God will not make heaven becos they don’t have love in their heart toward their neighbors .
The Bible said “above all, love your neighbor as your self but that is not what is obstainablenin christaindom.
So many Christians have it all wrong about making heaven

Matthew 5:3,5 Jesus Christ said so ooo .

2 Peter 3:13 confirmed it Ooo.
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:22pm On Aug 02, 2020
femi4:

The gathering is not referred to as Kingdom hall

The gathering is called CHURCH and it was used several times in the new testament

QED!
Please calm down and LEARN

I reposted this below for your benefit

Congregation , Church or Assembly are synonyms for a gathering of believers.

The kingdom Hall is a building bearing a name.
Is that a crime?


Kingdom Hall is not the Church, Congregation or Assembly or Ekklesia , whichever you prefer.

Shalom


Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by xaggar(m): 9:23pm On Aug 02, 2020
mike272:


Please explain Rev 20:15 to me. Who are those being referred to?

I'll explain who they are if you tell me what the second death means in verse 14 of revelation chapter 20.

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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:25pm On Aug 02, 2020
Clonus:

Did you read the Bible portions cited?

He wants you to swallow hook line and sinker, the JUNK spoon-fed to him by his gods of men and pastorpreneurs
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 9:27pm On Aug 02, 2020
you know nothing about scripture... only regurgitating what your leaders have indoctrinated you with..

only one version out all the ones you quoted uses the word angel... the others use messenger which is a more accurate word..

you go and study about old testament Christopanies (appearance of Jesus) and you will understand that appearances of Christ in the old testament though as a messenger did not deprive Him of Divinity as He spoke as God.. not as an ordinary angel which Michael is.. but as God.. anywhere you see an Messenger or "Angel" speaking as God and being worshipped by a man and He accepts that worship, that "Angel" was Christ.. eg burning bush when Moses bowed in worship and, as Captain of the host of the Lord when Joshua bowed in worship..

to now clearly disprove your ridiculous argument that angel Michael is Jesus, refer to the book of Daniel in which Daniel (Daniel 10:13) refers to Michael simply as "one of the chief princes" meaning just one of the archangels whereas he refers to Christ as the "Prince of princes" (Daniel 8:25) that is the Ruler of all rulers.. similar to King of kings..

how many versions

Janosky:


Malachi 3:1, Jesus Christ is the Angel of the covenant.

Joshua5:13-15 Jesus is the Angel of his
Lord, Yahweh . Matthew 11:25, Jesus Praised Yahweh his Sovereign Lord. Yes !
(Trinity GIBBERISH goes straight to the Sewage Tank, go and do your research , don't come here and argue blindly ooo).

2 Thess1:7-9, who leads other angels in battle ?

Yet, you're still doubting Jesus is angel Michael
grin grin

Bros, be humble and learn from Jehovah's servants.
Shalom

Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:29pm On Aug 02, 2020
xaggar:


You quoted acts 20 vs 28.
Could you explain that verse in relation to Christ being Jehovah?

Emmnprince done tear race komot.
The Trinitarian website studylight.org RUBBISHED his Acts 20:28 FRAUD, he saw their screenshot grin grin
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by goldensoul55: 9:34pm On Aug 02, 2020
You forgot to add,your annoying knocking on other people's door.
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 9:35pm On Aug 02, 2020
why don't you provide all other proofs of the Divinity of Christ as contained in your own attachment instead of hiding them.

you people are not christians and the Bible enjoins me to avoid vain arguments.. you guys have attacked practically every foundational doctrine of Christianity.. you are pseudo christians.. all your prophecies about Christ's coming have failed.. you have now chosen to engage in self deceit by convincing yourselves that the 2nd coming of Christ took place in 1914.. the Bible said the sea, hell, death gave up all the dead so they could face the white throne judgement and be cast into the lake of fire (revelation) yet you argue against this... Jesus spoke about hell over and over again but you argue against it.. you guys broke out from seventh day Adventists and the Mormons.. you are not christians...

Janosky:

Such as the FRAUD in 1Timothy 3:16.
Please name one person in your Bible who your own holy spirit showed mercy
grin grin

I challenge you to mention one Scripture in that screenshot which studylight.org claimed supported your FRAUD claims.
The point must be made Very clear:
Study light.org your Trinity Comrade RUBBISHED your FALSE claim on Acts20:28 grin

Why you refused to quote the words of Jesus Christ at John 5:37 and 6:46?

If the words of Jesus Christ is dogma to you, na your own problem be that.

Shalom
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Afamsi: 9:36pm On Aug 02, 2020
Ha ha
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Metronomy(m): 9:39pm On Aug 02, 2020
Seetto:
What is the sin of this Jehovah witness that many christains seem to hate them...

They do not belief in the oneness of Jesus the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:44pm On Aug 02, 2020
sonofElElyon:

1)
you know nothing about scripture... only regurgitating what your leaders have indoctrinated you with..

only one version out all the ones you quoted uses the word angel... the others use messenger which is a more accurate word..
*2)
you go and study about old testament Christopanies (appearance of Jesus) and you will understand that appearances of Christ in the old testament though as a messenger did not deprive Him of Divinity as He spoke as God.. not as an ordinary angel which Michael is.. but as God.. anywhere you see an Messenger or "Angel" speaking as God and being worshipped by a man and He accepts that worship, that "Angel" was Christ.. eg burning bush when Moses bowed in worship and, as Captain of the host of the Lord when Joshua bowed in worship..

to now clearly disprove your ridiculous argument that angel Michael is Jesus, refer to the book of Daniel in which Daniel (Daniel 10:13) refers to Michael simply as "one of the chief princes" meaning just one of the archangels whereas he refers to Christ as the "Prince of princes" (Daniel 8:25) that is the Ruler of all rulers.. similar to King of kings..


how many versions


grin grin
Bros, calm down
*1)
Hebrew malak, Angels are messengers, ministering spirits nau..
Receive SENSE

*2)
Deuteronomy 6:13 and Matthew 4:10 , John 15:15,

John 15:15, 7:16. His Father, Yahweh taught Jesus Christ.

Matthew 4:10, Jesus says Yahweh NEVER commanded anybody to worship Jesus.
Exodus 20:3-5, Moses can NOT DISOBEY Yahweh to worship Angel.

Moses paid homage, NOT worship.

*3)
Ignorance is bliss grin
Please read the screenshot and get proper understanding of Daniel 10:13

Strong's Hebrew 259 in Daniel 10:13 is the same meaning in Genesis4:19..
Strong's Hebrew 259 'one' = first.
Shine your eys , Bro.
JWs are genuine Bible students.
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:56pm On Aug 02, 2020
Metronomy:


They do not belief in the oneness of Jesus the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

JWs don't believe in KJV FRAUD of 1 John 5:7.
Please begin from thread no7 and see EVIDENCES of your FRAUD

grin

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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by ospido: 10:00pm On Aug 02, 2020
PataAlhaja:


Dem no dey let Niggers from other sects and religions fucck their daughters. Selfish people.

Funny enough, we still dey fucck them codedly.

Who Bleep help?
Is Bleep a virtue?
They try to be chaste as God's word stipulates though they're not perfect.
I know many of them and if it's true you Bleep anyone of them as you asserted,then it means that one is not a serious member.
Take that to the bank.

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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:02pm On Aug 02, 2020
sonofElElyon:
why don't you provide all other proofs of the Divinity of Christ as contained in your own attachment instead of hiding them.

you people are not christians and the Bible enjoins me to avoid vain arguments.. you guys have attacked practically every foundational doctrine of Christianity.
**2)
. you are pseudo christians.. all your prophecies about Christ's coming have failed.. you have now chosen to engage in self deceit by convincing yourselves that the 2nd coming of Christ took place in 1914.. the Bible said the sea, hell, death gave up all the dead so they could face the white throne judgement and be cast into the lake of fire (revelation) yet you argue against this... Jesus spoke about hell over and over again but you argue against it.. you guys broke out from seventh day Adventists and the Mormons.. you are not christians...

*1)
You made the Trinity claim not Janosky.....


This is what sonofElElyon is running from:
I challenge you to mention one Scripture in that screenshot which studylight.org claimed supported your FRAUD claims.
The point must be made Very clear:
Study light.org your Trinity Comrade RUBBISHED your FALSE claim on Acts20:28 grin


*2)
You console yourself with Straw man,Desperado tactics grin
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:04pm On Aug 02, 2020
ospido:


Who Bleep help?
Is Bleep a virtue?
They try to be chaste as God's word stipulates though they're not perfect.
I know many of them and if it's true you Bleep anyone of them as you asserted,then it means that one is not a serious member.
Take that to the bank.

God bless you Sir.
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:09pm On Aug 02, 2020
SIONKPO1:
Jehovah witness not collecting Tithes and offering doesn't mean that they are better off to other denominations,FYI,its just their doctrine
We follow the instructions in the Scriptures
2 Corinthians 9:7. Luke 21:1-4
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 10:11pm On Aug 02, 2020
Janosky:


Bros, go & find out for yourself.
Stop waiting for awoof grin

So we're brother now! Anyways, that's for another day.

In all my research, no evidence tends towards how it was inserted rather, why it was omitted.

If you have any strong support for how it was inserted or who inserted it. Bring it out!
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by ospido: 10:14pm On Aug 02, 2020
Metronomy:


They do not belief in the oneness of Jesus the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

You don't know them. Listen as they explain God's word to you.
I once asked them this same question and they referred me to John 17:20-23 particularly verses 21 & 22.
The account shows that God and Jesus are one and that the disciples should also be one too.
Now if God and Jesus are one individual (one person) what about the disciples are they one person too?

You answer that question for me b4 you you erroneously classify them as liars.
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 10:16pm On Aug 02, 2020
your attitude first needs to be addressed.. I am not surprised at all that you are so rude seeing that you are clearly an ill bred lout with no proper upbringing...

now let me address the rubbish you posted..


Messengers/angels don't necessarily have to mean angels of God. the Bible speaks of the angels of the churches in book of revelation.. meaning the pastors.. a human can be referred to as a messenger.. or even the Holy Spirit who you hate so much and of whom Christ said "I send you another Comforter"... and of course Christ is a messenger sent from God..

Paul said Christ is much better than the angels in the book of Hebrews showing that He isn't an angel.

Moses worshipped Christ at the burning bush. only when God appears does he say take off your shoes for the ground on which you are standing is holy ground.. Christ said it to Moses and Joshua and they both hastened to bow down and worship. only the presence of God makes the ground holy.. ordinary messenger angels don't say this.. only a divine person makes the ground holy.. you display monumental ignorance when you say Moses and Joshua didn't worship. the Bible clearly stated that Joshua worshipped the Captain of the host of the Lord and as for Moses the Bible records that he hid his face because he didn't want to look at the face of God thus proving that the Messenger (Christ) was a divine being..

learn to read the Bible and study well before commenting on matters way above your level


Janosky:


grin grin
Bros, calm down
*1)
Hebrew malak, Angels are messengers, ministering spirits nau..
Receive SENSE

*2)
Deuteronomy 6:13 and Matthew 4:10 , John 15:15,

John 15:15, 7:16. His Father, Yahweh taught Jesus Christ.

Matthew 4:10, Jesus says Yahweh NEVER commanded anybody to worship Jesus.
Exodus 20:3-5, Moses can NOT DISOBEY Yahweh to worship Angel.

Moses paid homage, NOT worship.

*3)
Ignorance is bliss grin
Please read the screenshot and get proper understanding of Daniel 10:13

Strong's Hebrew 259 in Daniel 10:13 is the same meaning in Genesis4:19..
Strong's Hebrew 259 'one' = first.
Shine your eys , Bro.
JWs are genuine Bible students.
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 10:24pm On Aug 02, 2020
I cannot convince a dogmatic person like you to accept the biblical doctrines.. you have been indoctrinated and it is only God that can convince you . not man.... my purpose simply was to point out to you that the material you yourself quoted from provides you with more than enough evidence to prove Christ's Divinity.. you don't need to seek anybody to spar with...

selah... shalom..

Janosky:

*1)
You made the Trinity claim not Janosky.....


This is what sonofElElyon is running from:
I challenge you to mention one Scripture in that screenshot which studylight.org claimed supported your FRAUD claims.
The point must be made Very clear:
Study light.org your Trinity Comrade RUBBISHED your FALSE claim on Acts20:28 grin


*2)
You console yourself with Straw man,Desperado tactics grin
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:27pm On Aug 02, 2020
xamuell:
Honestly I'm still confused on that issue because some part of scripture say that but another says something else. But let me ask you this. The gift of God is eternal life to those that are saved. Are sinners in eternal punishment not also eternally alive? According to your standing, even the damned have eternal life

Romans 6:23 and 2 Thes1:7-9. Rev16:14-16.
The war of Armaggedon Ushers in the 1000 year rulership of Jesus Christ and the 144,000. Revelations 1:5-6. 5:10. 14:1. Matthew 5:3.

When Revelations 21:3-5, 2Peter3:13 and John 5:28-29 will have fulfilment.

Revelations 20:15 gets fulfilment after the 1000 year rulership of Jesus Christ, that is why it is called 2nd death without any resurrection

Those resurrected in John 5:28-29 gets 2nd death without any resurrection (of Rev20:14-15) if they were rebellious during Jesus 1000 years rulership.
Thereafter, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 will fulfill.

Ask JWs near you for more clarification from your Bible
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by timlinofficial(m): 10:29pm On Aug 02, 2020
Janosky:


1. JWs don't worship triune idols of Christendom, daddy G.Os , and we don't pray to triune deities.
Matt6:9 . John 4:23,24. John 17:3. Jesus Christ is our examplar.

2. Jesus Christ is a servant of Jehovah.Acts3:13, Isaiah 43:10-12. Rev3:12-14. 1 Cor 3:23.
3. Jehovah's servants will imitiate their examplar. 1 Corinthians 11:1. 3:23.

4. Jesus disciples made predictions that never came to pass. Luke19:11. God's kingdom did not appear immediately since over 2000years till now.

5. Jehovah himself changed doctrine.
His people offered animals sacrifice in the past, is timlino offering animals sacrifice today?
Your other claim is FALSE.

6. Members of your church and your pastorpreneurs don't welcome JWs to their doorstep too.
Don't be a hypocrite.

7 False.
Hebrew 13:17 is it in your Bible?
It begins and ends with Hebrew 13:17.

Shalom.
1.Are you going to church to serve Go. Or GOD so other churchs pray to triune deties,
3. If you Are saying you having seen an honest non jw before then you are the biggest liar.
4. Are you saying your published fake prophecy are just mere thoughts? Deuteronomy 18:22
5. Lol serious so this how you explain misconception your governing body push down your throat, sacrifice didn't stop just what you use, instead of a sacrifice u now use Jesus blood which he shed once for all, unlike yours that ones you were convinced that the world will end 1914 but it didn't
6. All your answer are ready my in your reason from the scripture book which your governing body have prepared to stop you from thinking for yourself

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