Nairalandmonika:

The Bible actually support what's he's saying. According to the Bible, the earth is flat and the center of the world, the sun revolves around the earth.
The sky has pillar which support it to the earth. If u read the Bible carefully u will actually agree with him.
The Bible was the source of knowledge during the medieval era in Europe, that was why any scientist that opposed the Bible was prosecuted or killed.

bro we are no longer in medieval Europe.
The times of killing people based on refutable claims have passed.
Scientist are opposed and persecuted because of a book of stories and poems.

What he's saying here is trash even the Avant readers of the Bible will tell you he's saying trash.

greypencils:
Science is useless and yet you are using a phone, please throwaway that phone I beg you. Just throw it away. The phone doesn't deserve you.

Is that the conclusion of my post?

No.

God is God. Science is the knowledge of the laws put in place by God.

Science cannot replace God.

No one says that science is useless.

The guy I replied blasphemed God all in the name of science....

Simplyleo:
Space exploration is one of the most dangerous careers in the world. As an astronaut, you are more a dangerous gambler than anyone else, and what you stake is your life.

Outbound is a controlled flight and less risky than inbound which is not reasonably controlled.

Imagine being a crew member of a compartment falling from sky due to gravity and your only safety is landing in a deep water body.

Assuming there is some little mistake in the calculation and you eventually land on the shore. Even the pieces of the shredded compartment will be as tiny as pebbles. God forbid, I no dey do.

OGA EVEN IF THEY SHOUL LAND ON LAND DEPENDING ON THEIR POSITION. THEY WOULD STILL USE A PARACHUTE
THEY EVEN DON'T NORMALLY LAND ON WATER BODIES, MOSTLY ON LANDS/DESERTS

Originakalokalo:


Man has not gone anywhere.

Coronavirus shuts everyone down for months and there are other 50 viruses more deadlier than Coronavirus.....

Sickle cell anemia, cancer of all forms diabetes and the likes are still killing people...there are millions of things we still don't know....

DEATH. Science is completely useless as far as death is concerned....Every soul shall die..... I guess you think that after death consciousness cease... Well, you will find out afterwards.

Science is the knowledge of the physical laws that God put in place to keep this natural world going by itself...

These laws gives the universe self-sustaining abilities....

God will still be God.... Science will never take the place of God.

Do you know that a simple change in the nature of air will render a lot of inventions useless?

Give glory to God.

The universe is too complicated to exist by itself...order and timing are things that tell you that someone made this universe....

Give glory to God.

U are still living inside a cave. Sickle cell has cure now, it's called bone marrow transplant. 20yrs ago sickle cell had no cure. Thanks to science.

Cancer is treatable and curable thanks to science.

Diabetes can be managed and the person will live a healthy life, thanks to science.

Science doesn't claim to know or have the answers to all questions.

What science is is basically learning. Science revolves around learning, when we learn we aquire knowledge, we use this knowledge to solve problem and thats what science is.

And science will overtake religion gradually. Have u notice number of atheist are increasing. It will take time but eventually the world will see the truth.

Nairalandmonika:

The Bible actually support what's he's saying. According to the Bible, the earth is flat and the center of the world, the sun revolves around the earth.
The sky has pillar which support it to the earth. If u read the Bible carefully u will actually agree with him.
The Bible was the source of knowledge during the medieval era in Europe, that was why any scientist that opposed the Bible was prosecuted or killed.

show me a scripture where it says the earth is flat

EliteBiz:
You need to be calm and think critically and realize that the world is been deceived. The foundations of this earth we are living on is firm and immovable. The Ancient are aware of this. Infact, they have more understanding and knowledge than this present age.

You need to use that phone in your hand to start searching for truth so that you can start seeing the lies of the world you are living in.

You need to realize that education, science, google, government, Media, Nasa, Entertainment, Religion and all other major corporation will go to any length to make sure you are not awaken to the real truth, the real you, the real capabilities and potentials you have as mankind (the only creation that was given dominion on earth by The Most High).

You need to start asking questions and thinking critically.

"The truth is always hidden from the masses"

You need to realize that NASA is just acting movies for the World. We are currently living in a generation with the highest dumb individuals, sadly.

Think!

Shalom

Thanks for your expose but i have some questions.
where does the bible say that the earth is flat?
why are other planets/heavenly bodies spherical in shape? Mars, Jupiter, the moon, the sun, other planets? at least if we havent gone to space, some of us have observed other heavne,y bodies with crude telescopes like the 1 Galileo used. i mean this is common knowledge if you attended a school that offers Astronomical physics in Nigeria. Without going outside to view the earth, by law of conformity, other planetary objects are spherical so why should the earth be flat? do not bring christianity into your ignorance please...

Originakalokalo:


Is that the conclusion of my post?

No.

God is God. Science is the knowledge of the laws put in place by God.

Science cannot replace God.

No one says that science is useless.

The guy I replied blasphemed God all in the name of science....

And who is saying there is no God? God made man in his own image so we are like him. God is a Creator and so man is an inventor like him. Science can't replace God that's a fact but go talk to your brother who is all over this thread spewing rubbish about the earth being flat. And when you post stuff try and make your points clear so that you won't be grouped in the class of those who are living in the 16th century.

Nairalandmonika:

U are still living inside a cave. Sickle cell has cure now, it's called bone marrow transplant. 20yrs ago sickle cell had no cure. Thanks to science.

Cancer is treatable and curable thanks to science.

Diabetes can be managed and the person will live a healthy life, thanks to science.

Science doesn't claim to know or have the answers to all questions.

What science is is basically learning. Science revolves around learning, when we learn we aquire knowledge, we use this knowledge to solve problem and thats what science is.

Death?

People still die in their numbers as a result of those sicknesses.

That is my point.

Well, science has no cure for death,.that makes even a simple headache a death sentence.

Not as exciting as the days of the the Space Shuttle Discovery and Space Shuttle Enterprise returning back to earth, deploying their parachutes and gliding to touchdown on a runway

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k70hn4-ffc[/img]

Simplyleo:
Space exploration is one of the most dangerous careers in the world. As an astronaut, you are more a dangerous gambler than anyone else, and what you stake is your life.

Outbound is a controlled flight and less risky than inbound which is not reasonably controlled.

Imagine being a crew member of a compartment falling from sky due to gravity and your only safety is landing in a deep water body.

Assuming there is some little mistake in the calculation and you eventually land on the shore. Even the pieces of the shredded compartment will be as tiny as pebbles. God forbid, I no dey do.

THE RUSSIAN SOYUZ SPACECRAFT LANDS IN AN OPEN FIELD IN KAZAKHSTAN ALL THE TIME WITHOUT QUALMS.

IT'S THE MOST RUGGED AND MOST SUCCESSFUL SPACECRAFT EVER BUILT.

IT HAS FERRIED AMERICAN
ASTRONAUTS TO SPACE SINCE MID 70s UNTIL THIS YEAR.

Originakalokalo:


Man has not gone anywhere.

Coronavirus shuts everyone down for months and there are other 50 viruses more deadlier than Coronavirus.....

Sickle cell anemia, cancer of all forms diabetes and the likes are still killing people...there are millions of things we still don't know....

DEATH. Science is completely useless as far as death is concerned....Every soul shall die..... I guess you think that after death consciousness cease... Well, you will find out afterwards.

Science is the knowledge of the physical laws that God put in place to keep this natural world going by itself...

These laws gives the universe self-sustaining abilities....

God will still be God.... Science will never take the place of God.

Do you know that a simple change in the nature of air will render a lot of inventions useless?

Give glory to God.

The universe is too complicated to exist by itself...order and timing are things that tell you that someone made this universe....

Give glory to God.

Man has not gone anywhere but you're using a phone. A man made phone.

There are indeed things that we don't know and that is why science exists so that they may be known. Since when did ignorance become lucrative? The Corona virus, cancer, sickle cell etc will be cured by scientific research one day.
Before the end of the year now scientists will provide vaccine for Corona.

In science the concept of death is well understand and studied. The classifications of living things includes death. When you get malaria and take drugs remember how science created the medicine to cure an ailment that can otherwise kill you. That is not powerlessness.
Everybody will die eventually but through science ebola that had a death rate so high the assured outcome was death now has a vaccine and treatments.
You call that powerlessness?

The fear of science making your god irrelevant doesn't invalidate science in it's entirety. Stop being afraid of simple theorems and formulas
Because of fear you typed all that.

Just so you know there are scientist who believe in the creationsist view and many creationists views exist varying from every culture and history. So while you believe in the Genesis creation story many out there believe in their own. I guess when death comes we'll know which one holds water.

nextstep:


I imagine this was the "get it done using tried and true technology". It takes quite a lot to make an orbital vehicle that glides and lands like a plane, and this method reduced risk, weight, and increased chances of success. I'd be surprised if they didn't have a lander in the works already. They had already demonstrated boosters that land vertically (as opposed to splashing in the sea), so there's got to be ongoing work to extend that to orbital vehicles (though it would increase launching weight, with all the attendant costs and risks)

ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE AMERICAN SPACE SHUTTLE PROGRAM. THE LAST ONE (ENDEAVOUR) WAS GROUNDED IN 2011.

Aidejay:

Man has not gone anywhere but you're using a phone. A man made phone.

There are indeed things that we don't know and that is why science exists so that they may be known. Since when did ignorance become lucrative? The Corona virus, cancer, sickle cell etc will be cured by scientific research one day.
Before the end of the year now scientists will provide vaccine for Corona.

In science the concept of death is well understand and studied. The classifications of living things includes death. When you get malaria and take drugs remember how science created the medicine to cure an ailment that can otherwise kill you. That is not powerlessness.
Everybody will die eventually but through science ebola that had a death rate so high the assured outcome was death now has a vaccine and treatments.
You call that powerlessness?

The fear of science making your god irrelevant doesn't invalidate science in it's entirety. Stop being afraid of simple theorems and formulas
Because of fear you typed all that.

Just so you know there are scientist who believe in the creationsist view and many creationists views exist varying from every culture and history. So while you believe in the Genesis creation story many out there believe in their own. I guess when death comes we'll know which one holds water.

We will know for sure...But then, it will be too late for one of us.

EliteBiz:
You need to be calm and think critically and realize that the world is been deceived. The foundations of this earth we are living on is firm and immovable. The Ancient are aware of this. Infact, they have more understanding and knowledge than this present age.

You need to use that phone in your hand to start searching for truth so that you can start seeing the lies of the world you are living in.

You need to realize that education, science, google, government, Media, Nasa, Entertainment, Religion and all other major corporation will go to any length to make sure you are not awaken to the real truth, the real you, the real capabilities and potentials you have as mankind (the only creation that was given dominion on earth by The Most High).

You need to start asking questions and thinking critically.

"The truth is always hidden from the masses"

You need to realize that NASA is just acting movies for the World. We are currently living in a generation with the highest dumb individuals, sadly.

Think!

Shalom

So how much do you know about this flat earth?
How do you explain concepts like gravity and solar eclipses on it?
How do satellites and navigation work?

Common Meenh!

Welcome back to the Motherboard

EliteBiz:
You need to be calm and think critically and realize that the world is been deceived. The foundations of this earth we are living on is firm and immovable. The Ancient are aware of this. Infact, they have more understanding and knowledge than this present age.

You need to use that phone in your hand to start searching for truth so that you can start seeing the lies of the world you are living in.

You need to realize that education, science, google, government, Media, Nasa, Entertainment, Religion and all other major corporation will go to any length to make sure you are not awaken to the real truth, the real you, the real capabilities and potentials you have as mankind (the only creation that was given dominion on earth by The Most High).

You need to start asking questions and thinking critically.

"The truth is always hidden from the masses"

You need to realize that NASA is just acting movies for the World. We are currently living in a generation with the highest dumb individuals, sadly.

Think!

Shalom

and the truth is precisely what?

omenka:
I'm pretty sure as time goes on and the boundary for cutting edge technology keeps getting pushed, scientists would come up with solutions for the uncertainties surrounding inbound flights.

This would have to do essentially with developing propulsion systems that would give the astronauts control over their flights on re-entry into the earth's atmosphere. The reason I feel this hasnt been done yet is because huge percentage of fuel is used up in outbound flights with the aim of escaping the earth's gravitational pull. Adding more fuel and additional boosters to the crafts (say boosters bound to the reentry capsules) would mean increasing the overall weight of the spacecraft, and we know what an engineering nightmare that portends.

With more efficient fuel systems or fuels, all that problem could be overcome. Heard research is ongoing about using nuclear fuel or some sort of plasma system as fuel. Upon perfecting such, we might enter the age of space exploration wherein the ease of take off and landing is similar to that in domestic aviation.

I salute you.

I really learnt a lot from this post.

I didn't even look at the poster before quoting until after submission, then I saw it was you. I now say, no wonder. Cos I was like, who could this even be? That is after submission. If I had even known earlier, I wouldn't be surprised.

Originakalokalo:


We will know for sure...But then, it will be too late for one of us.

that's the truth ooh! But a saying goes that it's better late than never. How that applies to life after death is still yet unknown. Me I hope there isn't cause I am not anticipating anything you see the topic of death and science will never end. Cause death is not a sickness or disease death is a natural order of things, and not only humans die, skin cells die so that new ones can replace them so alse blood cells, hair frolicles so that new hair can grow and many more. So the old dies so the newer can emerge. By extension science isn't seeking to cure death. A world without death is gonna be terrible. From overpopulation to pollution to wars.

Aidejay:
that's the truth ooh! But a saying goes that it's better late than never. How that applies to life after death is still yet unknown. Me I hope there isn't cause I am not anticipating anything you see the topic of death and science will never end. Cause death is not a sickness or disease death is a natural order of things, and not only humans die, skin cells die so that new ones can replace them so alse blood cells, hair frolicles so that new hair can grow and many more. So the old dies so the newer can emerge. By extension science isn't seeking to cure death. A world without death is gonna be terrible. From overpopulation to pollution to wars.

True.

Have a wonderful week ahead....

Jesus loves you.

One will think that a thread like this would be littered with scientific expose and factual knowledge but alas right on the front page one person stuck out like a sore thumb.

Leaving me to wonder if this is a true representation of the masses especially those ignorantly predisposed to believe such based on a foundation of wrong principles and knowledge.

If 5 or 6 of every 10 Nigerians believe such where does that leave us. In the 18th century I guess where science was perceived as a threat to religious doctrines. Doctrines that the religious groups have since abandoned due to the fact that they've been proven false.

But naaaa! Some still choose 18th century ignorance. It's their forte they like living stupid.

Alas the thread has become grounds for more ignorant rethorics. Lead me away I can see no more.

Originakalokalo:


Death?

People still die in their numbers as a result of those sicknesses.

That is my point.

Well, science has no cure for death,.that makes even a simple headache a death sentence.

All life must taste death.

All that medicine and scientific advancements do is delay this inevitable death.

Science never promised to make man immortal.

Simplyleo:

I salute you.

I really learnt a lot from this post.

I didn't even look at the poster before quoting until after submission, then I saw it was you. I now say, no wonder. Cos I was like, who could this even be? That is after submission. If I had even known earlier, I wouldn't be surprised.

You're too generous with your compliments.

EliteBiz:
You need to be calm and think critically and realize that the world is been deceived. The foundations of this earth we are living on is firm and immovable. The Ancient are aware of this. Infact, they have more understanding and knowledge than this present age.

You need to use that phone in your hand to start searching for truth so that you can start seeing the lies of the world you are living in.

You need to realize that education, science, google, government, Media, Nasa, Entertainment, Religion and all other major corporation will go to any length to make sure you are not awaken to the real truth, the real you, the real capabilities and potentials you have as mankind (the only creation that was given dominion on earth by The Most High).

You need to start asking questions and thinking critically.

"The truth is always hidden from the masses"

You need to realize that NASA is just acting movies for the World. We are currently living in a generation with the highest dumb individuals, sadly.

Think!

Shalom

Ignorance in high places

IMAliyu:

All life must taste death.

All that medicine and scientific advancements do is delay this inevitable death.

Science never promised to make man immortal.

Yes. Science never promised man immortality.

Jesus did.

He said, Those that believe in me, even though they die, they shall live again.

It means I will live after here.

Death is not my end....I will continue forever.

Glory to God for that.

dingbang:
so in essence, what is the summary of what they went to do?

Only scientists and geologists will understand every detail written there

Simplyleo:

I salute you.

I really learnt a lot from this post.

I didn't even look at the poster before quoting until after submission, then I saw it was you. I now say, no wonder. Cos I was like, who could this even be? That is after submission. If I had even known earlier, I wouldn't be surprised.

Cc Omenka,
Two great men having a mature and decent conversation.
#Respect sirs!
Have a blessed week ahead Guys!

Elon Musk is south African.

Now America would go to war for his sake.

Another example of brain drain.

omenka:
You're too generous with your compliments.

Not really about generosity na.

Na as e take happen I talk am.

All the same, I really like that post, honestly. Thank you so much.

Comments like this are what attracted me to nairaland. The likes of modath, hungerbad (of blessed memory), Mbbq, and recently, NwaAmaikpe and a host of well educated nairalanders. As for NwaAmaikpe, I may not agree with his idea, but I know he is intelligent. But now na just akamu full nairaland, just few intelligent folks are still available and they rarely make comments.