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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:30pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
sonofElElyon: Bros, John 5:37 , John 6:46 , Revelations 3:12 and Romans 8:3 ,1 Corinthians 3:23, who indoctrinated Jesus Christ and Apostle Paul? If you get Liver,quote the words of Jesus Christ and Paul here |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by ospido: 10:32pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
sonofElElyon: Like i said earlier on I've come to know these people inside out. You did say that Jesus is God Almighty if i get you correctly. But that is not true. Under inspiration Stephen when being stoned to death said at Acts 7:56 he saw the "heavens opened up and the SON of MAN STANDING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD." So you tell me how can someone standing at my right hand be me? Did he double himself there? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:35pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
ospido: That's the point sonofElElyon won't accept, but it's there in his own Bible He labelled it "indoctrination" 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by SIONKPO1(m): 10:40pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
Janosky:following a verse in the bible,I have no problem but don't condemn others cause there are verses in the Bible that supports it why don't JW like using other versions of the bible? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by ospido: 10:45pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
Janosky: Don't mind him my brother. The words of Luke 8:10 is having it's fulfillment. Keep on your good work. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by ospido: 10:54pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: Number 1 they don't condemn others at all. Rather,they reveal the truth found in God's word. Secondly,i KNOW that they use other translations as well. If they come to your house they allow you to bring your own copy of the Bible when they converse with you. Besides, b4 translating the New World translation into Yoruba,Urhobo, Isoko, Efik, Igbo and so on they normaly used the Holy Bible (King James or other versions) in their Kingdom halls. I have witnessed it live. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 11:38pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
you simply don't understand.. Christ is the express image of God, sharing the same nature and essence as the Father.. that is why the Jews accused Him of making himself God because he said God is His Father.. they understand that he made himself equal to God meaning that he claimed to be in the class of God which He is! It doesn't mean He is the Father.. no one has ever said that.. the position is that he shares all the attributes, power, nature, quality and essence of God.. no Angel has these attributes.. just the Father, Son and Spirit.. "when you have seen Me, you have seen the Father".. "I and my Father are one" in nature and in unity ospido: |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 11:46pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
I need to sleep.. i have work to do tomorrow.. maybe you dont.. moreover I don't need to quote any verse. there are already several verses you are avoiding and refusing to address.. when you have finished disproving the overwhelming evidence presented in the material you attached, then you can come.. first deal with the evidence against your position that you unwittingly and inadvertently presented.. Janosky: |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by dapadawee: 12:04am On Aug 03, 2020 |
jw done buy nairaland. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by ospido: 12:33am On Aug 03, 2020 |
sonofElElyon: Thank you for agreeing that Jesus is not the father. We're making a head way already. Now take your mind to John 17:20-23 Particularly in verse 22 and i say, in the sense of UNITY that Jesus and God Almighty are one. Take into consideration that Jesus disciples are to be one too. Is it in nature too as you alluded to above? Besides,see the accounts of Psalm 82:1; John 10:34,35; and 1Corinthians 8:5. Here refer to other "gods" which includes Angels and even the demons (remember they were angels b4). But there is only One God not two Gods or three in One. While there us only One Lord not two lords or three in one. Finally,do you know that Jesus has an origin and is a creation whereas God Almighty (Yaweh) does not and is not? Please confirm this in Colossians 1:15; Revelation 3:14 and Proverbs 8:22. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 6:26am On Aug 03, 2020 |
Seetto: What is the sin of other churches that JWs hate and despices them to an extent of calling them Christendom and other bad names? What is the sin of other churches that JWs demonises them? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 6:28am On Aug 03, 2020 |
maziuwa: That is the easy question they want to hear you ask. To ask them the hard questions they will run from, go to this thread and see the questions... https://www.nairaland.com/6028082/questions-jehovahs-witnesses |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 6:31am On Aug 03, 2020 |
Notatribalist: They don't take offering, but they have their own way of tithing their members dry |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Omoobong1(m): 6:43am On Aug 03, 2020 |
chatinent:I didn't hear you mention anything like PRAYER, you guys don't pray? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Notatribalist(m): 7:17am On Aug 03, 2020 |
rottennaija:don't say what you don't knw. So what's their was of tithing their members. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 8:12am On Aug 03, 2020 |
that's why I said you don't understand the doctrine of Trinity. I clearly stated in my earlier post that Jesus is one with God and the Holy Spirit IN UNITY (not in number).. He is God because of the reasons I stated earlier. same with the Holy Spirit who is a person and not a force! Jesus and the Holy Spirit share the same nature, attributes power and essence with the Father and pre existed all other things and beings. The triune God jointly created all things and the Bible is filled with verses to that effect.. Regarding the issue of Christ having a beginning, that was in the dateless past before time and before any other thing or being came to existence... it is clear that if Christ is the Son of God He must've proceeded from the Father.. the only analogy / illustration I can think of is the amoeba that replicates itself asexually.. That is why Christ is God.. He proceeded out of the Father.. Very God of God.. Very Light of Light.. Of the same essence and nature as the Father.. It also follows that the Holy Spirit is God because He is the Spirit of God and shares the same nature essence power and attributes of God, together with Jesus to the exclusion of all other beings.. Also proceeding from the Father in the dateless past before time and before any other thing or being came into existence.. It is common knowledge that Christ is almighty and so is the Holy Spirit.. that's why He said to the Father in the book of John "restore unto me the glory I had with you before the foundation of the world.. and "at the name of Jesus every knee should bow of things in heaven and Earth and under earth" also "ALL POWER IS GIVEN TO ME IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH". remember that Paul also wrote in Hebrews "When God brought the begotten (Jesus) into the world He (God) said "let ALL the angels worship Him (Christ). For the Holy Spirit it is clear that He is almighty for even The Father said " not by might nor by power but by my Spirit says the Lord. Father Son and Spirit are God over all creation.. They created all things and sustain all things. The Bible says so.. I can only give few Bible verses. please Google the rest. I hope you now understand the doctrine of the Trinity ospido: 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DappaD: 8:15am On Aug 03, 2020 |
Notatribalist: Don't listen to that one He's a confused kid who left the JW organization so he's out on nairaland trying to bash us. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Angel1696: 8:28am On Aug 03, 2020 |
andycom:lies u people always attack catholic church with ur stupid article in watchtower and awake. You people will want others to read your awake, watchtower but will never accept nor touch any article from other church u guys are all animals. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Angel1696: 9:04am On Aug 03, 2020 |
FashionCookie:They like juju ehhh no be here and can pretend they are holy 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Angel1696: 9:18am On Aug 03, 2020 |
DelphiOracle:I concur no jw stuff should be published here pls those in favour should pls sign let's stop this mad people practicing false religion and deceiving people here. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Angel1696: 9:22am On Aug 03, 2020 |
Maximus69:The maximus the dead one |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Owologbo(m): 9:22am On Aug 03, 2020 |
@chatinet, In regards to no.: 1), concerning Jesus being God or not: have you read John 1:1-14 before? 4). you said Jesus began ruling in 1914; I didn't see anything of such in Revelation 11:15 you posted. Can you explain better? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Owologbo(m): 9:31am On Aug 03, 2020 |
ospido:Have you read John 1:1-14 before? if yes, what is your understanding of vs 1 and 14? John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Owologbo(m): 9:37am On Aug 03, 2020 |
sonofElElyon: I thought you said there is nothing like Trinity (Trinity being an English word which means 3 in one)? So, where's the Father, Son and Spirit coming from? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by sonofElElyon: 10:14am On Aug 03, 2020 |
you must be confusing me with someone else. I never told you that! check my posts! maybe you meant that the word "Trinity" wasn't used in the Bible.. it is just a term to describe the oneness of the Father, Son and Spirit.. it simply means Tri (Three) AND (u)nity (United).. I think what you should be concerned about is the doctrine itself and what it means.. not the name by which it is called.. I think my last post was detailed enough. All that needs to be said has been said. Owologbo: |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Nobody: 10:48am On Aug 03, 2020 |
Angel1696:Is there any name that the first to bear it is still alive? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Mentorme: 11:10am On Aug 03, 2020 |
Maximus69:Bible called it "the parable of the sower" and despite been a parable, it is applicable in real life. Called the story of Lazarus parable; you or bible? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Mentorme: 11:18am On Aug 03, 2020 |
Janosky:So, headlines is now included as bible? You are funny! Matthew 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow; Did bible record it in the same manner? By the way, where is Elijah? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Mentorme: 11:21am On Aug 03, 2020 |
xaggar: 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. This is what you called imagination? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by FashionCookie(f): 11:29am On Aug 03, 2020 |
Janosky: Iffa hear say...please don't make me laugh bros. Make we just forget the matter. If I start to talk, we no go commot for here. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Nobody: 12:17pm On Aug 03, 2020 |
Mentorme: If you know something there will be a sign that you truly understand. Jesus knew there will be confusion after he's gone that's why he said regarding his true followers "you will know them by their FRUIT" Matthew 7:20 Notice that he promised to send the holy spirit which will remind his followers the things he taught them and "teach them new things" {John 14:26} Jehovah's Witnesses believe this so when we say "what Jesus said in a place is not to be taken literally" all you need to consider is the FRUIT of God's holy spirit amongst those saying this. Do they have LOVE, JOY and PEACE reigning in their midst? Galatians 5:22 If YES is the answer then you need not worry over what they're telling you, they're the ones Jesus sent the spirit to so they can remember which part is literal or not in Jesus' speeches. So if Jehovah's Witnesses (who are exhibiting the qualities of God's holy spirit) now say what Jesus said in that part is a Parable, anyone trying to argue with them is on his own! |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Nobody: 12:34pm On Aug 03, 2020 |
chatinent:I am an atheist. |
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