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DappaD:
There is no need to rigmarole. Just say you don't know and leave these your big big talks.

You asked me 3questions and I answered all 3 without hesitation.
Now ordinary two questions I've asked you, you're all about the place talking about doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Call me robot, zombie, I agree I am all of those. But it still doesn't affect my questions.
This is the second part of my earlier questions.



Please give an answer let's move on. Thanks.

Blabbermouth:
This your primary school scope will not work. You are very uncomfortable when someone asks you a question, as it shoves you to the wall.
In claiming that Adam and Eve went to the dust, you sounded like that's the end. Hahahahahahaha .... Now I asked you (first!), who will be resurrected?
You decided to play hide and seek just like you did in the other thread.
I am not one to argue, I go for essence only, yea sir, Essence only!
The goal here is to enlighten us on the existence of hell fire and not to give you some bible lessons that will take us nowhere.

Blabbermouth:
Who are those going to be resurrected? Who are those going to be judged?
Any witness in the house...

DappaD:
2. What is the second death as revealed by Revelation 2:21, 20:6, 14, 21:8?

DappaD:
Until my second question is answered, you can continue in your folly.

Peace.

DappaD:
Who told you I can't give you an answer about the resurrection from the Scriptures?
That isn't the topic of this thread so I've decided not to answer you on that.

So please answer my question that's related to the topic of this thread


I wonder what makes you think I can't reply your questions.
Just answer mine let's move on. Thanks

Blabbermouth:
Very comfortable!
Again, SALVATION IS IN JESUS ALONE!
You cannot redeem yourself with your blood (That is the most foolish doctrine widely accepted today).
It would interest you to know that we will not remain in Heaven eternally, we will be in the new earth forever. Also, when Jesus died, he died with a terrestrial body, however when he resurrected, he ressurected with a CELESTIAL BODY.
This new and glorious body does not have Blood. This new and glorious body does not have any tendency to Sin. This new and glorious body isn't moved by that thing you call "Feelings" and "emotions "...
Go and read the book of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (the account of Jesus' earthly ministry till he died) and compare it with Jesus in the book of Revelation (Jesus with Celestial body and in heaven)...
He was sounding more like the old testament LORD YHWH ...
We are going to be changed from mere mortals to Divine beings, don't expect humanly feelings and emotions to be part of the divine package.

Blabbermouth:
Do you derive joy in arguing? Perhaps, in your mind, you are talking to an unlearned Christian that doesn't know anything about the bible. I've seen you chicken out of threads using this same scope, almost like you don't want to concede defeat.
Whenever I'm discussing with a Christian, I don't allow my belief to cloud my discernment of truth, please do emulate that too.

Okay, I know nothing about the second death. Will you school me please?

Blabbermouth:
Smiles... Alright, school me.

Captainman:
Pls answer with reference from the Bible

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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31. “The Son of Man will come again with divine greatness, and all his angels will come with him. He will sit as king on his great and glorious throne.
32. All the people of the world will be gathered before him. Then he will separate everyone into two groups. It will be like a shepherd separating his sheep from his goats.
33. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34. “Then the king will say to the godly people on his right, ‘Come, my Father has great blessings for you. The kingdom he promised is now yours. It has been prepared for you since the world was made.
35. It is yours because when I was hungry, you gave me food to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. When I had no place to stay, you welcomed me into your home.
36. When I was without clothes, you gave me something to wear. When I was sick, you cared for me. When I was in prison, you came to visit me.’
37. “Then the godly people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and give you food? When did we see you thirsty and give you something to drink?
38. When did we see you with no place to stay and welcome you into our home? When did we see you without clothes and give you something to wear?
39. When did we see you sick or in prison and care for you?’
40. “Then the king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you did for any of my people here, you also did for me.’
41. “Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.
42. You must go away because when I was hungry, you gave me nothing to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me nothing to drink.
43. When I had no place to stay, you did not welcome me into your home. When I was without clothes, you gave me nothing to wear. When I was sick and in prison, you did not care for me.’
44. “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you without a place to stay? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see any of this and not help you?’
45. “The king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’
46. “Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever. But the godly people will go and enjoy eternal life.”

Maximus69:
God's judgment TO DESTROY is not part of his program from the beginning!
It wasn't meant for imperfect humans who were misled but for PERFECT beings who had no excuses for not maintaining their position yet willfully decided to rebel against God!
That's why God's word said "his will is for all (imperfect humans) to come to repentance" 2Peter 3:9
So it means the impending extermination wasn't meant for humans but for Satan and demons (perfect spirit beings) who willfully disobeyed God! 1Peter 3:19-30, 2Peter 2:4; Jude 6

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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41. “Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.
42. You must go away because when I was hungry, you gave me nothing to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me nothing to drink.
43. When I had no place to stay, you did not welcome me into your home. When I was without clothes, you gave me nothing to wear. When I was sick and in prison, you did not care for me.’
44. “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you without a place to stay? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see any of this and not help you?’
45. “The king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’
46. “Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever. But the godly people will go and enjoy eternal life.”

Maximus69:
God's judgment TO DESTROY is not part of his program from the beginning!
It wasn't meant for imperfect humans who were misled but for PERFECT beings who had no excuses for not maintaining their position yet willfully decided to rebel against God!
That's why God's word said "his will is for all (imperfect humans) to come to repentance" 2Peter 3:9
So it means the impending extermination wasn't meant for humans but for Satan and demons (perfect spirit beings) who willfully disobeyed God! 1Peter 3:19-30, 2Peter 2:4; Jude 6

Daejoyoung:
Blabbermouth, let's assume your mother is muslim, but a very liberal muslim loved by all because she is very nice. She does so much good and have even established so many orphanage homes and stuff like that.
You love your mum so much, and everyday you preach jesus to her telling her to accept jesus as lord and saviour, but she didn't.

Daejoyoung:
On the last day would God admit her to heaven or hell? considering that everyone must accept jesus as lord and saviour to get to heaven according to the evangelists and the likes of Righteousness89? If she goes to hell, how comfortable would you be in your heaven?

Kobojunkie:
God's judgement to destroy was not part of his program from the beginning? Who fed you that crap?

There you have the very word of God Himself (Jesus Christ) telling you the Truth of God, yet you want to instead believe that God is not INVOLVED in this at all?

Maximus69:
I should be asking you the bolded because Peter clearly stated that God doesn't derive pleasure in destruction! 2Peter 3:9

Maximus69:
So try to correlate that with other part of the scriptures instead of isolating a verse as if other parts are irrelevant!By the way i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so who or from where are you learning the gibberish you're spewing as in where can you direct people to learn more.
Please spare me the trash that it's God's holy spirit because all the religious groups claiming Christians attributes their teachings to the same holy spirit, so tell me where exactly are you learning what you're saying?

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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41. “Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.
42. You must go away because when I was hungry, you gave me nothing to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me nothing to drink.
43. When I had no place to stay, you did not welcome me into your home. When I was without clothes, you gave me nothing to wear. When I was sick and in prison, you did not care for me.’
44. “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you without a place to stay? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see any of this and not help you?’
45. “The king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’
46. “Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever. But the godly people will go and enjoy eternal life.”

Kobojunkie:
According to Jesus Christ, the New Covenant of God to man(gentiles in particular), those who do not obey Him, will have no share in the promise that the agreement comes with.
Niceness and kindness to men is not the measure here but obedience is.
According to Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, Heaven's immigration policy stipulates that all those who want to enter, be in obedience to the Law of the land in question, Heaven. No matter how previously loved, or nice, or good(by man's measure) a candidate is, if the candidate is not in compliance with the laws of Heaven, entry will be denied.

Understand that no human being can will another into Heaven...Pity or love for the candidate cannot force open the gates of Heaven for the candidate. Each candidate is required to make the choice of Heaven for themselves, a choice revealed through their obedience or lack of, towards the New Covenant agreement.

Kobojunkie:
WOW.... the words of Peter trump the very word of God? That's a sign!
I don't give a flying fk who you claim to be, so stop repeating that nonsense like it means anything to even me.

Even Paul posited on this by saying, "Let Man be a liar and God be true ".... when you read that book, understand who is TRUTH and who is not to be believed or trusted.
When you read the word of God, never validate the word of God against the words of a man... you do the opposite instead. Verify your understanding of what you read from the opinion of man, against the word of God.
Now again.... According to Jesus Christ...

Maximus69:
Jesus made Peter and the other Apostles the foundation of the Christian faith Sir! Matthew 16:18

Matthew 23 vs 8-12
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8. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c]
9. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.
10. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you shall be your servant.
12. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

Maximus69:
So Stop disputing what Peter an Apostle of the Christ said because he understood Jesus' word far much more than a 21th century rebellious person who is not a member of any reputable group of worshipers like you!

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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41. “Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.
42. You must go away because when I was hungry, you gave me nothing to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me nothing to drink.
43. When I had no place to stay, you did not welcome me into your home. When I was without clothes, you gave me nothing to wear. When I was sick and in prison, you did not care for me.’
44. “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you without a place to stay? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see any of this and not help you?’
45. “The king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’
46. “Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever. But the godly people will go and enjoy eternal life.”

Kobojunkie:
Wrong, Jesus had Peter and the disciples as His followers.... they were the first, but not the foundation because He, Jesus Christ is the foundation of His Church. And He warned all His followers not to teach any thing different from that which He taught them.

He said He and He alone is your ONLY Teachers. Are you sure you want to instead learn from his student and not from him?
Stop disputing what Peter said? ...LOL
Let me guess, in your mind, the student is now suddenly greater than His Master since you would rather go with your understanding of what Peter meant than accept what the Master Himself has said on the issue?

If you don't already realize it, well, here goes. If you believe that your understanding of what Peter wrote there is indeed your truth, what you are invariably saying is Jesus Christ, hence God is a liar!.

Maximus69:
Well they're the ones sent to take his teachings to people of all the nations (including you) {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} You who is now reading a translation that's been tampered with over thousands of years and through countless copying from hand to hand cannot grasp what their teacher taught them directly and face to face in their own mother tongue than them!

Jeremiah 31 vs 31-34 (ERV)
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31. “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32. not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord.
33. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

Matthew 23 vs 8-12
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8. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c]
9. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.
10. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you shall be your servant.
12. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

Maximus69:
Peter lived, walked and work with Jesus, he spent years with him, they both ate and drank on the same table, he taught him so many things both verbally, with visions and actions.

So when Jesus' teachings becomes difficult to grasp, Peter is in better position to expatiate on what his oga said much more than you Sir!

Matthew 23 vs 8-12
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8. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c]
9. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.
10. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you shall be your servant.
12. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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41. “Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.
42. You must go away because when I was hungry, you gave me nothing to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me nothing to drink.
43. When I had no place to stay, you did not welcome me into your home. When I was without clothes, you gave me nothing to wear. When I was sick and in prison, you did not care for me.’
44. “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you without a place to stay? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see any of this and not help you?’
45. “The king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’
46. “Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever. But the godly people will go and enjoy eternal life.”

Daejoyoung:
So wasn't she obeying christ as a good person? what other obedience does christ demand?

Daejoyoung:
Now you are getting me confused. What are these laws of heaven?

Daejoyoung:
You keep saying obedience, what is this obedience towards the new covenant and why are those good works not enough, what else is required of her?

Matthew 10 vs 34-39
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34. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace. I came to bring trouble.[h]
35. I have come to make this happen:
‘A son will turn against his father.
A daughter will turn against her mother.
A daughter-in-law will turn against her mother-in-law.
36. Even members of your own family will be your enemies.’
37. “Those who love their father or mother more than they love me are not worthy of me. And those who love their son or daughter more than they love me are not worthy of me.
38. Those who will not accept the cross that is given to them when they follow me are not worthy of me.
39. Those who try to keep the life they have will lose it. But those who give up their life for me will find true life.

Matthew 14 vs 23-24
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23. Then he said, “The truth is, you must change your thinking and become like little children. If you don’t do this, you will never enter God’s kingdom.
24. The greatest person in God’s kingdom is the one who makes himself humble like this child.

Matthew 16 vs 24-27
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24. Then Jesus said to his followers, “If any of you want to be my follower, you must stop thinking about yourself and what you want. You must be willing to carry the cross that is given to you for following me.
25. Any of you who try to save the life you have will lose it. But you who give up your life for me will find true life.
26. It is worth nothing for you to have the whole world if you yourself are lost. You could never pay enough to buy back your life.
27. The Son of Man will come again with his Father’s glory and with his angels. And he will reward everyone for what they have done.

Matthew 6 vs 25-34
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25. “So I tell you, don’t worry about the things you need to live—what you will eat, drink, or wear. Life is more important than food, and the body is more important than what you put on it.
26. Look at the birds. They don’t plant, harvest, or save food in barns, but your heavenly Father feeds them. Don’t you know you are worth much more than they are?
27. You cannot add any time to your life by worrying about it.
28. “And why do you worry about clothes? Look at the wildflowers in the field. See how they grow. They don’t work or make clothes for themselves.
29. But I tell you that even Solomon, the great and rich king, was not dressed as beautifully as one of these flowers.
30. If God makes what grows in the field so beautiful, what do you think he will do for you? It’s just grass—one day it’s alive, and the next day someone throws it into a fire. But God cares enough to make it beautiful. Surely he will do much more for you. Your faith is so small!
31. “Don’t worry and say, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear?’
32. That’s what those people who don’t know God are always thinking about. Don’t worry, because your Father in heaven knows that you need all these things.
33. What you should want most is God’s kingdom and doing what he wants you to do. Then he will give you all these other things you need.
34. So don’t worry about tomorrow. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Tomorrow will have its own worries.

Kobojunkie:
How can you take His Teachings anywhere when you do not even believe that He is indeed the Truth of God? His very words cause you to squirm and you think you do what in His name?
Worse is you do not even trust God to maintain the integrity of His own truth through even the mere hands of man, yet you think yourself the one to do that for Him?
Thankfully, God has not left the work of teaching the people in the world in the hands of men such as your person... Oh no, He alone is indeed the one to teach His people about Himself.

Jesus Christ only repeated the word of God to you and I in the passage below...



ROFLMAO!!!
The word of God becomes DIFFICULT to grasp? Wow.. who explained the word of God to Peter? Was it not God? So if you think God incapable of explaining His own word directly to you, as He did Peter, what are you doing with such an "Incompetent" being for a God?

If you cannot even IMBIBE His truth without running around to find text to get you the meaning you prefer, what makes you think you are able to speak His truth in anything else?

Kobojunkie:
The New Covenant that is Jesus Christ is a contract, an agreement that comes to all men, with a light yoke(about 46 commandments in all) and an easy burden(one's own life) to bear, with a promise of eternal life beginning hear on earth and the Kingdom of Heaven afterwards.
In order to partake in the agreement, obedience to the commandments is required. First one needs to become a follower of Jesus Christ, to which there is a cost attached. I have isolated about 7 commandments that apply as far as this is concerned, and will post that in another comment. Only those who obey all 7 commandments become born again/followers of Jesus Christ.
I don't make up the rules... I am myself a servant who learned that Obedience is indeed the key into the kingdom of God.
The New Covenant is the new agreement that God makes with man and the agreement contains laws detailing information on who can get into Heaven as well.
The good works that men do are nothing but filthy rags as far as God is concerned. The only kind of good works that are acceptable in the sight of God, are works dones in obedience of His commandments.

Jesus Christ, the man, is the embodiment of the New covenant. His every words, teachings, and life lived etc. all point to the agreement that God promised to us all. If you study His teachings, you will find that Jesus Christ set before us rules on how to live our lives according to what God wants -- those rules constitute the commandments of the New Covenant that is He. His every example... all in obedience of the will of the Father.. is showing us how to live in obedience to the rules/commandments that is the Will of God for us all.

Maximus69:
My friend, the Israelites had the scriptures before it was translated to the language you can read after translations from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to French and some other languages before it was finally translated to English after 1500 year in existence!
Jesus sent his disciples who were Jews to first go and teach his own Jewish people who can read it in their own mother tongue directly! Matthew 10:3-15
So don't let arrogance becloud your reasoning Sir, you can't understand God's word if someone did not teach you, that's a lie!

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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41. “Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.
42. You must go away because when I was hungry, you gave me nothing to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me nothing to drink.
43. When I had no place to stay, you did not welcome me into your home. When I was without clothes, you gave me nothing to wear. When I was sick and in prison, you did not care for me.’
44. “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you without a place to stay? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see any of this and not help you?’
45. “The king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’
46. “Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever. But the godly people will go and enjoy eternal life.”

Maximus69:
Apollos was a Jew, he knew about Jesus through the scriptures, he was an eloquent speaker, yet it was Aquila and Priscilla that God used in teaching Apollos what Christianity means! Act 18:24-26
So who do you think you are that you're now bluffing saying God must teach you directly?

Daejoyoung:
So can someone obey all these laws of christ and yet remain a Muslim or a deist?

Daejoyoung:
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on keeping the commandments of jesus, my post was targeted at the likes of Righteousness, and the guy I quoted. To them, inheriting the kingdom of God is all about confessing a formula, or just believing, and so in that sense those of other Religions can never be followers of christ.

Daejoyoung:
Also my arguement was to show the absurdity of the doctrine of hell fire. In my understanding of the bible, there is no everlasting fire where souls remain alive, but rather an everlasting (or age long) fire that completely destroys and brings the age of wickedness (or of satan and demons) to an end.

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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31. “The Son of Man will come again with divine greatness, and all his angels will come with him. He will sit as king on his great and glorious throne.
32. All the people of the world will be gathered before him. Then he will separate everyone into two groups. It will be like a shepherd separating his sheep from his goats.
33. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34. “Then the king will say to the godly people on his right, ‘Come, my Father has great blessings for you. The kingdom he promised is now yours. It has been prepared for you since the world was made.
35. It is yours because when I was hungry, you gave me food to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. When I had no place to stay, you welcomed me into your home.
36. When I was without clothes, you gave me something to wear. When I was sick, you cared for me. When I was in prison, you came to visit me.’
37. “Then the godly people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and give you food? When did we see you thirsty and give you something to drink?
38. When did we see you with no place to stay and welcome you into our home? When did we see you without clothes and give you something to wear?
39. When did we see you sick or in prison and care for you?’
40. “Then the king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you did for any of my people here,[b] you also did for me.’

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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41. “Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.
42. You must go away because when I was hungry, you gave me nothing to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me nothing to drink.
43. When I had no place to stay, you did not welcome me into your home. When I was without clothes, you gave me nothing to wear. When I was sick and in prison, you did not care for me.’
44. “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you without a place to stay? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see any of this and not help you?’
45. “The king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’
46. “Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever. But the godly people will go and enjoy eternal life.”

Kobojunkie:
According to Jesus Christ, He is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. NO ONE comes to the FATHER except through Him.
Yeah, no one can inherit the kingdom of God without actually obeying the commandments of God. In much the same way God designed His Old covenant with Obedience as the key , He also did the New Covenant, with Obedience still the key.
On that, I suggest you read it again.. because just as Christ details those who will enter His kingdom (those who obey His commandments)

...He also detailed the fate of those who will not obey Him. But I must confess that I have similar questions as you do, which I have yet to ask Him on the issue of those who do not fit in as sheeps or goats... those who completely reject what He offers. What I currently believe is that they all fall to be judged according to the Old Covenant which by default condemns everyone who is not a descendant of Jacob to death i.e. NO ETERNITY of any kind for them.

But be sure, Hell is indeed a thing, according to Jesus Christ Himself.

Daejoyoung:
The way, the truth, and the life, what does that mean?

Daejoyoung:
One says he is a Taoist, loves the philosophy of Confucius( of which many are not harmful) but also follows all the commandments of jesus unknowingly but doesn't even call himself a Christian and despises the Christian religions ( Catholicism, Protestantism, etc) would you say this person is following christ?

Matthew 6 vs 24 (ERV)
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24. “You cannot serve two masters at the same time. You will hate one and love the other, or you will be loyal to one and not care about the other. You cannot serve God and Money[d] at the same time.

Daejoyoung:
I have nothing against obedience. I am speaking about mere belief in a religion or doctrine, is that what you mean by christ as the way?

Daejoyoung:
Matthew 25 does is a fire that consumes the enemies of God , it's as simple as that. If you don't think so, then explain your interpretation of the passage, don't just quote it.

Matthew 25 vs 31-40 (ESV)
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41. “Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.
42. You must go away because when I was hungry, you gave me nothing to eat. When I was thirsty, you gave me nothing to drink.
43. When I had no place to stay, you did not welcome me into your home. When I was without clothes, you gave me nothing to wear. When I was sick and in prison, you did not care for me.’
44. “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you without a place to stay? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see any of this and not help you?’
45. “The king will answer, ‘The truth is, anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’
46. “Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever. But the godly people will go and enjoy eternal life.”

Daejoyoung:
Fire in the old testament ( as well as in the new) was all about either purification or total destruction. This interpretation of biblical fire as an everlasting hell comes mostly from Greek and Persian religions. Jesus from what I read of him in the gospels simply believed in physical death through fire for the resurrected enemies of God,

Daejoyoung:
in a final death where they can no longer rise again, and then a physical kingdom here on earth where he sits on a throne with his 12 disciples governing the 12 tribes of Israel with him.
That was the dream, but it didn't turn out that way, at least not immediately like the disciples expected.

The Way to get to God, the Father, is Jesus Christ(The New Covenant).
The Truth of God, the Father, is Jesus Christ(The New Covenant), the word of God.
The Life(eternal life) that is promised by God, the Father, is Jesus Christ(The New Covenant)
The way to God isn't through Christian religions like Catholicism or protestantism etc. Those are far away from God from their very foundations.

That said, worshipping another master yet unknowingly obeying the commandments of Jesus Christ does not get one to God either. For you cannot worship two masters.

The Taoist needs to either serve confucius or serve Jesus Christ... not both.

According to Matthew 25, the fire itself burns eternity, and the punishment that awaits the evil people will be forever. Not sure if that means they will burn forever, but my guess is that the goats have eternal life so the statement about their punishment lasting forever maybe apt.

Kobojunkie:
keep deluding yourself there.. Your gospels were originally written in greek language, and not hebrew, by the way.
If you cannot believe that Jesus Christ words are indeed the Truth of God, what can you believe of Him?

If you have to circumvent His own words in order to get the doctrine you subscribe to, to prevail, then I hate to tell you that you believe a lie and not Jesus Christ.
Stop blabbering and learn to focus on the topic at hand!

Are you sure this is even from the Bible?