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Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 5:48am On Jul 15, 2020
As a self taught developer what are the challenges you face and the benefits of learning by yourself?
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 5:49am On Jul 15, 2020
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Re: Self-taught Developers by stanliwise(m): 10:32am On Jul 15, 2020
Benefit - I learnt things the hard way and by learning it myself I tend not to forget which made me a solid programmer

Regret-Simple concept took me too much time to master, I did waste precious times on useless stuffs and was mislead many times. Lastly, I was distracted many times also.
Re: Self-taught Developers by mike272(m): 11:08am On Jul 15, 2020
stanliwise:
Benefit - I learnt things the hard way and by learning it myself I tend not to forget which made me a solid programmer

Regret-Simple concept took me too much time to master, I did waste precious times on useless stuff and was mislead many times. Lastly, I was distracted many times also.

Same here, wasted so many resources and time but at the end, I learned a lot. Sadly now have limited fund to implement most stuff have learned
Re: Self-taught Developers by Betaflip: 11:10am On Jul 15, 2020
New beast..


I rep https://naijabionet.com
Re: Self-taught Developers by stanliwise(m): 11:53am On Jul 15, 2020
mike272:


Same here, wasted so many resources and time but at the end, I learned a lot. Sadly now have limited fund to implement most stuff have learned
implement stuffs like what? Aside laptop, time and power what else?
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 11:58am On Jul 15, 2020
stanliwise:
Benefit - I learnt things the hard way and by learning it myself I tend not to forget which made me a solid programmer

Regret-Simple concept took me too much time to master, I did waste precious times on useless stuffs and was mislead many times. Lastly, I was distracted many times also.

somehow for me I am always on the right path.

I would say God has always been there for me.

I started programming at 13 with a J2ME phone... Though it can't be compared to what I design now. But there was this joy I always had..
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 12:01pm On Jul 15, 2020
The only regret was the long time due to lack of electricity..
Electricity is a resource for we programmers. An idea comes, no electricity..
Re: Self-taught Developers by explorer250(m): 3:21pm On Jul 15, 2020
I have been programming close to four years now. The problems I had was reading outdated books. I remember the first time I tried inserting data into a database using php, instead of using $_POST[ ] array, I used something like $post[] or something like that, I can't actually remember. took me about three weeks to realize that syntax was deprecated. This is because the first book I read was php-mysql applications by jay Greenspan and brad brugger and this is a book written either at 2000 or 2006, so I wasted a lot of time on things that doesn't matter. But the advantage I had is that I got a strong foundation in programming. I really understood concepts and this has made me capable of designing almost any type of websites. I didn't take any short cut , hence, I don't use frameworks and libraries because I can do what those frameworks and libraries could do using the original language and this increases performance. you don't need to add jquery of 300kb to your site just to perform an animation you could do with simple JavaScript and CSS. Though I could use jquery, bootstrap etc but I hardly make use of them since I don't need much from them. When I look at most dynamic web site I have already mapped out their table structure using my mind and I can see the left joins, subqueries etc. word of advice for upcoming programmers, their is no short cut to programming. you get better with time and experience and don't stop learning. in fact , I just finished a book of 300 pages yesterday which has helped me transition from procedural and function based programming to oop. the name is Learn php 7. And lastly, I learnt the hard way using PDFs and it made me develop the culture of reading programming books. so far I have read at least 15 PDFs on php, 9 PDFs on JavaScript, four PDFs on HTML, 5 pdfs on CSS, 7 PDFs on SQL coupled with few videos and active participation on solo learn.

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Re: Self-taught Developers by Grandlord: 5:43pm On Jul 15, 2020
explorer250:
I have been programming close to four years now. The problems I had was reading outdated books. I remember the first time I tried inserting data into a database using php, instead of using $_POST[ ] array, I used something like $post[] or something like that, I can't actually remember. took me about three weeks to realize that syntax was deprecated. This is because the first book I read was php-mysql applications by jay Greenspan and brad brugger and this is a book written either at 2000 or 2006, so I wasted a lot of time on things that doesn't matter. But the advantage I had is that I got a strong foundation in programming. I really understood concepts and this has made me capable of designing almost any type of websites. I didn't take any short cut , hence, I don't use frameworks and libraries because I can do what those frameworks and libraries could do using the original language and this increases performance. you don't need to add jquery of 300kb to your site just to perform an animation you could do with simple JavaScript and CSS. Though I could use jquery, bootstrap etc but I hardly make use of them since I don't need much from them. When I look at most dynamic web site I have already mapped out their table structure using my mind and I can see the left joins, subqueries etc. word of advice for upcoming programmers, their is no short cut to programming. you get better with time and experience and don't stop learning. in fact , I just finished a book of 300 pages yesterday which has helped me transition from procedural and function based programming to oop. the name is Learn php 7. And lastly, I learnt the hard way using PDFs and it made me develop the culture of reading programming books. so far I have read at least 15 PDFs on php, 9 PDFs on JavaScript, four PDFs on HTML, 5 pdfs on CSS, 7 PDFs on SQL coupled with few videos and active participation on solo learn.
This is dedication. Make sure you scrape every dollar to reward your effort. Bravo.
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 8:53pm On Jul 15, 2020
explorer250:
I have been programming close to four years now. The problems I had was reading outdated books. I remember the first time I tried inserting data into a database using php, instead of using $_POST[ ] array, I used something like $post[] or something like that, I can't actually remember. took me about three weeks to realize that syntax was deprecated. This is because the first book I read was php-mysql applications by jay Greenspan and brad brugger and this is a book written either at 2000 or 2006, so I wasted a lot of time on things that doesn't matter. But the advantage I had is that I got a strong foundation in programming. I really understood concepts and this has made me capable of designing almost any type of websites. I didn't take any short cut , hence, I don't use frameworks and libraries because I can do what those frameworks and libraries could do using the original language and this increases performance. you don't need to add jquery of 300kb to your site just to perform an animation you could do with simple JavaScript and CSS. Though I could use jquery, bootstrap etc but I hardly make use of them since I don't need much from them. When I look at most dynamic web site I have already mapped out their table structure using my mind and I can see the left joins, subqueries etc. word of advice for upcoming programmers, their is no short cut to programming. you get better with time and experience and don't stop learning. in fact , I just finished a book of 300 pages yesterday which has helped me transition from procedural and function based programming to oop. the name is Learn php 7. And lastly, I learnt the hard way using PDFs and it made me develop the culture of reading programming books. so far I have read at least 15 PDFs on php, 9 PDFs on JavaScript, four PDFs on HTML, 5 pdfs on CSS, 7 PDFs on SQL coupled with few videos and active participation on solo learn.

I have to say you are just like me.
I hate frameworks. I don't use shortcuts, code everything from
scratch. Reading is the only key to success. When i was studying webgl I got more knowledge on how the gpu works....

I have to say you just said everything..
Re: Self-taught Developers by explorer250(m): 11:23pm On Jul 15, 2020
sadiqsalau888:


I have to say you are just like me.
I hate frameworks. I don't use shortcuts, code everything from
scratch. Reading is the only key to success. When i was studying webgl I got more knowledge on how the gpu works....

I have to say you just said everything..
I went through your website and I love your site! what API did you call to automatically update the scores?
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 7:45am On Jul 16, 2020
explorer250:
I went through your website and I love your site! what API did you call to automatically update the scores?

it's a custom api i designed
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 7:53am On Jul 16, 2020
explorer250:
I went through your website and I love your site! what API did you call to automatically update the scores?

we are still making an update..
Re: Self-taught Developers by explorer250(m): 8:26am On Jul 16, 2020
sadiqsalau888:


it's a custom api i designed
I mean how don you update the scores like livescores? I believe you must be calling an external api to fetch the current scores, maybe in Jason format which you can use to update the scores on your website. or do you update manually?
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 8:41am On Jul 16, 2020
explorer250:

I mean how don you update the scores like livescores? I believe you must be calling an external api to fetch the current scores, maybe in Jason format which you can use to update the scores on your website. or do you update manually?
Re: Self-taught Developers by ProfAmaben(m): 5:39pm On Aug 05, 2020
explorer250:

I mean how don you update the scores like livescores? I believe you must be calling an external api to fetch the current scores, maybe in Jason format which you can use to update the scores on your website. or do you update manually?

He can't update manually, it must be retrieved from an API, probably a LiveScore API with scores, country, leagues etc in json format. Except he's watching all the matches concurrently and updating in real time which is impossible.
Re: Self-taught Developers by explorer250(m): 6:53pm On Aug 05, 2020
ProfAmaben:


He can't update manually, it must be retrieved from an API, probably a LiveScore API with scores, country, leagues etc in json format. Except he's watching all the matches concurrently and updating in real time which is impossible.

lol I know that must be the case. if he doesn't get what I am saying then that means he is using an already written php script
Re: Self-taught Developers by ProfAmaben(m): 6:56pm On Aug 05, 2020
explorer250:


lol I know that must be the case. if he doesn't get what I am saying then that means he is using an already written php script

Most programmers just clone repositories and form jagaban. I prefer slow learning and mastery than hurry hurry and copy paste.




I may be wrong here though, although quite surprised he didn't understand what you meant by API
Re: Self-taught Developers by explorer250(m): 7:09pm On Aug 05, 2020
ProfAmaben:


Most programmers just clone repositories and form jagaban. I prefer slow learning and mastery than hurry hurry and copy paste.




I may be wrong here though, although quite surprised he didn't understand what you meant by API

from his picture he looked young and I was wondering when he started coding to reach the level to be able to create that websites from scratch. this is Nigeria, you hardly see any teenager coding.
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 8:50am On Aug 08, 2020
I understand what you mean by API. And you are right, it's livescores but also wrong it isn't an already made api.
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 8:52am On Aug 08, 2020
explorer250:


from his picture he looked young and I was wondering when he started coding to reach the level to be able to create that websites from scratch. this is Nigeria, you hardly see any teenager coding.

Not the first time I am seeing this..
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 8:54am On Aug 08, 2020
ProfAmaben:


Most programmers just clone repositories and form jagaban. I prefer slow learning and mastery than hurry hurry and copy paste.




I may be wrong here though, although quite surprised he didn't understand what you meant by API


i get you but that's not it,,,
because it's closed source. I can't give you any reference to a code.
Re: Self-taught Developers by ProfAmaben(m): 9:00am On Aug 08, 2020
sadiqsalau888:



i get you but that's not it,,,
because it's closed source. I can't give you any reference to a code.

Young programmer, don't say what you don't know. Did he ask you to give him access to your code? Why are you telling us about your code being closed sourced? He only asked you if an API is being used to get the scores or if you were the one that created the API.
If you can't give reference to a code, why are you advertising it?
Re: Self-taught Developers by sadiqsalau888(m): 9:04am On Aug 08, 2020
ProfAmaben:


Young programmer, don't say what you don't know. Did he ask you to give him access to your code? Why are you telling us about your code being closed sourced? He only asked you if an API is being used to get the scores or if you were the one that created the API.
If you can't give reference to a code, why are you advertising it?

i'm sorry sir. It's not what i meant, usually an api has a documentation page e.g paystack..
Re: Self-taught Developers by ProfAmaben(m): 9:06am On Aug 08, 2020
sadiqsalau888:


i'm sorry sir. It's not what i meant, usually an api has a documentation page e.g paystack..


You don't need to be sorry, just trying to get information, that's all.

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