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NegroAcheiver:
.You sure barca would still wanna keep coutinho after yesterday's humiliation.Bayern calmed down after 5 but Mr.Coutinho said lailai una must receive more cane.Lengtlet and pique must be the worst defensive pairing in the history of barca ever.Two players that are both slow and play similarly.

Mydockay:
For next season


-------------------------Griezmann(ST)---------------------------


Coutinho(LW)---------------------------------------Messi(RW)


------De Jong ----------Pjanic----------------Puig--------------


Alba-------------Lenglet------------Todibo---------Semedo


We don't need any new transfers except a Semedo replacement

SELL - Busquets (Useless against fast teams), Rakitic (useless square), Vidal (headless), Suarez (Too slow), Roberto (overdue for sale)

BENCH: Semedo (Bring in main RB), Pique, Dembele (unless fit), Fati

tesppidd:
See ehn; if I was Messi i would leave immediately.
In order not to destroy my legacy and have a chance to get more glory before I retire.

In the past 1 year he has banged goals against Liverpool, Tottenham, Man U, Sevilla, Athletico, Napoli, Inter.

So when you reference Levante, what exactly are you talking about?


Barca's over reliance on Messi could never be over emphasized. You can't pretend it doesn't exist.

But that's a story for another day.



But back to the main issue;

Am sure PSG, Man City, Juve and even Bayern would sign him immediately he declares; screaming hallelujah.

That way he makes life very easy for himself, win more accolades and probably shatters more records.

So if ddippset was Messi, I don waka be that.
If I be Messi Papa, I go even kidnap am force am to leave Barca.


But am neither Messi nor his Pops.

It is me wanting him to stay.

Because I honestly believe that despite everything Barca would be making a grave mistake letting him go now.

Messi himself wouldn't want to take the easy way out and run to another billion pound club.

He would rather sink and swim with Barca.

Such loyalty is rare, and difficult.
It's a much bigger challenge than running to Madrid when they are in form or running to Juve because you can win 10 consecutive scudettos.


Forget what the fans think, even the club and the board would die to keep Messi.

Barca is shiit right now I concede.

But Like i elaborated above, the required clear out would be too massive to do in one fell swoop.
Sure It's long overdue but better late than never!

We need a coach who can build a fresh team while still working to curb the infamous Messi-dependency.

tesppidd:
Seriously..


In My Humble Opinion.


OUTS..
Rakitic
Roberto
Suarez
Dembele
Griezman
Umtiti
Vidal


BENCH
Alba
Busquets
Firpo

INS
Messi
Pique
Fati
Puig
De Jong
Lenglet
Semedo
Pjanic

LordAdamX:
Why should a team with Dembele, Griezmann, Coutinho, FdJ, Arthur, Puig, and Fati be over-reliant on Messi?

Is that not a problem? If it's a problem, what has Messi done about it instead of establishing a Messi and Friends Old Boys Association?

You folks will be talking about the over-dependency like it started today or Messi is not directly contributing to it.

And I don't think you should be using the board as a yardstick. If Barto tells me it's about to rain, I'll carry sunglasses instead of an umbrella.

Messi is ruining his legacy and it has nothing to do with seeking a challenge. It's about responsibility. Two seasons back, I was here talking about how Messi is not a leader and it's why I don't rate him much, many cules were saying it's overrated and I'm picking on him because he's not expressive. Here we are two years later and he captained a 8-2 dismantling.

And right on cue, the Messi FC response is "he doesn't deserve this"...

This is not 1 or 2 yrs, na 5 years...

-Lord

BykeLaByke:
Pep can't hack it against Lyon in the CL quarters.

Wow...such a chequebook manager ffs.

haymekus:
Man city should just sack pep, so we can sign him

jonsnow92:
Mofo Suarez
Most useless human on earth.

Debroslink:
Shebi na 4 here I read say Suarez better pass Eto'o.

tesppidd:
Seriously..

It took too damn long.

This process should have begone since 2018.


OUTS..
Rakitic
Roberto
Suarez
Dembele
Griezman
Umtiti
Vidal


BENCH
Alba
Busquets
Firpo

INS
Messi
Pique
Fati
Puig
De Jong
Lenglet
Semedo
Pjanic

LordAdamX:
Lyon are lucky. Pep is unlucky. But I'd always relish another Barcaverse personality having a disasterclass.

-Lord

LordAdamX:
Why should a team with Dembele, Griezmann, Coutinho, FdJ, Arthur, Puig, and Fati be over-reliant on Messi?

Is that not a problem? If it's a problem, what has Messi done about it instead of establishing a Messi and Friends Old Boys Association?

You folks will be talking about the over-dependency like it started today or Messi is not directly contributing to it.

And I don't think you should be using the board as a yardstick. If Barto tells me it's about to rain, I'll carry sunglasses instead of an umbrella.

Messi is ruining his legacy and it has nothing to do with seeking a challenge. It's about responsibility. Two seasons back, I was here talking about how Messi is not a leader and it's why I don't rate him much, many cules were saying it's overrated and I'm picking on him because he's not expressive. Here we are two years later and he captained a 8-2 dismantling.

And right on cue, the Messi FC response is "he doesn't deserve this"...

This is not 1 or 2 yrs, na 5 years...

-Lord

Adiwana:
Ronaldo left cause he had a falling out with Madrid not cause he wanted to leave. We saw how the whole Balon dor and his unceremonious exist went. Besides they could afford to lose him knowing fully well Benzema,Ramos were still producing results. Bale just scored goal of the season and with his rant and inclusion of Hazard,Madrid could easily afford to lose Ronaldo

Juve buying him was perfect business for both clubs. Madrid could afford to let him go after all 3 Champions leagues were already in the bag and Juve just needed that final piece in the puzzle

Barca on the other hand is in a way different mess. Losing Neymar,Valverde being at the helm of affairs even after showing he had no business with this club.,Suarez is now a bad player but for God knows what still starts ours games Falling out between players and club administrators,spending big on players that the club has clearly no plans for etc. Way different situations

Sommyroy10:
imagine missing clear cut chances and then conceding immediately, twice. Chaii Sterling

jonsnow92:
Suarez had 24 passes all through the game and 9 of them were from the kickoff spot.
Mofo!

LordAdamX:
The falling out is what a non-RM fan will see.

Look closely and you'd realize it was much more than that. Ronaldo wanted to leave for the same reason Zidane left. On the one hand, there was the salary issue, but on the other hand there was the sporting issue. If we hadn't won the UCL in his last season, we'd have ended the season trophyless. We lost the league to the worst Barca team up to that point, were harangued out of the CdR and there were humongous issues in the team.

Earlier in the season Ronaldo criticized the front office for not having sufficient back-up; particularly with Morata and James. He knew if he had stayed, what's happening to Messi now will happen to him. All that Lopetegui and Solari drama, na CR7 name dem go dey call up and down.

Ron's exit is the Madrid way. I wouldn't call it unceremonious. The Balon D'Or was to keep Modric who was on his way to Inter Milan. Now Modric is about to be discarded like Perez had planned to do to Ronaldo if he hadn't pushed to leave.

All parties, Juve, RM, and Ronaldo got something positive out of the deal. There's no guarantee that Juve without Ronaldo would have won the UCL instead of Liverpool last year and this year no one is getting past Bayern. There's no guarantee either that RM with Ronaldo would have won the UCL in both years either... It's hard to keep winning after 3 consecutive successful runs. And Ronaldo gets his salary and a grateful board.

Barcelona's problem is multi-faceted, so it's easy for anyone to pick one party and build a case against them while shielding another party.

I refuse to buy this idea that a player of Messi's standing in Barcelona has very little if any blame in their current predicament. Talisman, captain, and club legend is not only about receiving fat salary and having club official accounts like your wife's social media post. He is either part of the solution or part of the problem; right now it doesn't look like the former.

-Lord

tesppidd:
How in this earth did VAR not cancel Lyon's second goal?

The guy who scored clipped the heels of his marker and then went on to score.

Was that not a scandal?

Sommyroy10:
Oh, that what happened? I just saw the guy fall, I focused on the offside part and it seems that's what the officials were focusing on too. If that's what happened, very unfortunate.

High line against quick strong players na gamble oh, those Lyon players look like mini rugby players.

barackodam:
It's not his fault he found himself in a scoring position.

So he shouldn't score?

Debroslink:
Imagine that nonsense for our no 9. All our coaches post Enrique are wussies. Like I stated earlier, I want to see the press conference of our new coach. I wan check if he'll start by licking Messi's balls.

LordAdamX:
The falling out is what a non-RM fan will see.

Look closely and you'd realize it was much more than that. Ronaldo wanted to leave for the same reason Zidane left. On the one hand, there was the salary issue, but on the other hand there was the sporting issue. If we hadn't won the UCL in his last season, we'd have ended the season trophyless. We lost the league to the worst Barca team up to that point, were harangued out of the CdR and there were humongous issues in the team.

Earlier in the season Ronaldo criticized the front office for not having sufficient back-up; particularly with Morata and James. He knew if he had stayed, what's happening to Messi now will happen to him. All that Lopetegui and Solari drama, na CR7 name dem go dey call up and down.

Ron's exit is the Madrid way. I wouldn't call it unceremonious. The Balon D'Or was to keep Modric who was on his way to Inter Milan. Now Modric is about to be discarded like Perez had planned to do to Ronaldo if he hadn't pushed to leave.

All parties, Juve, RM, and Ronaldo got something positive out of the deal. There's no guarantee that Juve without Ronaldo would have won the UCL instead of Liverpool last year and this year no one is getting past Bayern. There's no guarantee either that RM with Ronaldo would have won the UCL in both years either... It's hard to keep winning after 3 consecutive successful runs. And Ronaldo gets his salary and a grateful board.

Barcelona's problem is multi-faceted, so it's easy for anyone to pick one party and build a case against them while shielding another party.

I refuse to buy this idea that a player of Messi's standing in Barcelona has very little if any blame in their current predicament. Talisman, captain, and club legend is not only about receiving fat salary and having club official accounts like your wife's social media post. He is either part of the solution or part of the problem; right now it doesn't look like the former.

-Lord

tesppidd:
What should they be over reliant on Messi?

Cus they lazy as Bleep. That's why.

We saw how Neymar came along and that dependency was reduced.
Even with Dembele there were good signs but he was hampered by injuries.

Neymar and Dembele brought a new dimension to Barca.

The rest simply couldn't cut it.

Take last season as case study.

Messi scored over 10 goals in the UCL plus 2 against Liverpool.
Barca had 2 own goals I think.
Then Suarez had 1 goal or something.

As for your question; What has Messi done about it?
This is ridiculous! Is there an answer to this?
Done about it as team coach or as board director? Which? Lol.


Which one is 1 year or 2 years or 5 years?
Is it Messi that keeps breaking Dembele's legs?

Or is it Messi that turned Arthur into a round about midfielder.

Or is it Messi that makes Griezman can't buy a goal to save his career?

Whether you like it or not Messi Mess and to an extent Ter Stagen have contributed 80 percent to this Barca side for the past 5 years while the entire team have not contributed more than 20 percent.

It's all too glaring to see.

Its become a cliche to say that Barca problem is Messi-dependent which means we must exhornorate him.
And that you must do willy nilly.

Like I said before if I were Messi would leave the club immediately.
I won't sink any further with a bunch of players collecting salary and setting me back when there are many top clubs willing to pay me well with a guarantee of winning major trophies.

Leader or no leader if you win you win.
If you dont win you lose.
It doesn't stop you from winning.

We saw one leader get dumped out by small Ajax last season.
We saw one leader get dumped out by Lyon this season.