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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:20pm On Aug 19, 2020
soetanoreoluwa:


Why will you choose Ighalo over Victor?

Because he is in my opinion better.

Add to that tried and tested and was the highest goal scorer in the AFCON and has been consistently putting in top perfomances. Has the better experience.

Whether you like it or Victor is not tried, tested and proven in the same context as Ighalo. He is undoubtedly very good but he has not achieved Ighalo level yet.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 1:20pm On Aug 19, 2020
charlesemeka85:
so dude is turning Atalanta down cus of Sheffield united that he is not even sure if they will survive next season. Madness

Purr madness bro

Atalanta A top European club

Sheffield United( might be relegation candidate next season)

Like why is it hard to make a choice here?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 1:23pm On Aug 19, 2020
komekn:


Your negative prejudice has so befuddled your sense of reasoning. You seem unable to comprehend the common English. The term last season is qualified by the words, "in Bundesliga".

Let me quote myself verbatim "Almost retired Robben 5 goals from 12 games last season in Bundesliga" Which is 2018/19.

But like a red flag to an angry bull you just cannot restrain yourself.






Last season was 2019/2020 sir

Robben was not part of the Bayern team last season

2018/2019 was 2 seasons ago

Issa simple Sturv

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:25pm On Aug 19, 2020
Provoker:
komekn is Right. Chukwueze doesn't have salah or mane style of play, you can liken him to zaha, hazard or willian. Chuks doesn't score much goals . I'll say Onyekuru has salah style of play.

You may indeed liken him to Zaha,Willian and Hazard. But he does not have the same quality and has a long way to go to to attain that level.

Onyekuru scores a lot more goals, big YES but can he do it at higher a very big QUESTION MARK❓

Onyekuru seems to shine in lower quality league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:27pm On Aug 19, 2020
start watching from 52:20


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De2Bro07pOg

forgiveness:


Which assist? Can you show the video? What minutes of the game? I want to rewatch.

Can someone show me the video? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:28pm On Aug 19, 2020
JayromWrites:


Last season was 2019/2020 sir

Robben was not part of the Bayern team last season

2018/2019 was 2 seasons ago

Issa simple Sturv

Last season in the Bundesliga with reference to a particular players is not a generalistic statement.

I can say Lukaku last season in the EPL was very good, does that automatically mean 2019/20.


Simplistic English comprehension is complicated for some people to understand.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:28pm On Aug 19, 2020
komekn:


You are being delusional to put Chukwueze in the same category as Mane and Robben, how many goals did Chukwueze score this season in La Liga.


Why the aggression, mate?

The guy stated that modern strikers like Chukwueze and Mane and Robben play to score not create.

And I countered that both modern and 'old school' wingers are expected to both score and create. I never compared

It's by all account that even Salah still has to improve to reach Mane's level.

IDENNAA:



Onyekuru is a winger with a unique style because of his goal scoring abilities. He mostly play to score not to create like old school wingers; you would observe the modern wingers are moulded in a striker--like form. Sala , Chukwueze , Mane , Arjen Robben are all modern wingers who has strikers attribute yet are never the point man.


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:39pm On Aug 19, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Are we ready for another Victor Moses drama? I say we let him go. He has done his bit but I doubt his devotion will be there.

I think our real setback is that we have not yet developed sufficiently as an offensive unit. So we rely on individual performances to see us through tight moments. Rohr should emphasise on pushing the team forward offensively. Rohr should try now. Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Flick, Klopp and some other offensive tactical gems of the moment are Germans.

When a player retires because he is clearly not able to meet the required standard it's accepted and he is commended for his contribution.

Vic Moses left for reasons not related to football, that leaves many unanswered questions.

When you add to the issues the fact nobody in the current SE is better than him as it stands currently. Which of our players in his position can get into Inter-Milan.

We have people making all kinds of negative assumptions based on pure ignorance and prejudice. He has a problem, he has a bad attitude, etc.

I have learned over the years that the media image of a player and his actual personality can be miles apart. So l just don't make those spurious assumptions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 1:39pm On Aug 19, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


Why the aggression, mate?

The guy stated that modern strikers like Chukwueze and Mane and Robben play to score not create.

And I countered that both modern and 'old school' wingers are expected to both score and create. I never compared

it's by all account that even Salah still has to improve to reach Mane's level.


At the bolded, I think you meant Mane still has to improve to reach Salah's level in your context
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Provoker(m): 1:45pm On Aug 19, 2020
komekn:


You may indeed liken him to Zaha,Willian and Hazard. But he does not have the same quality and has a long way to go to to attain that level.

Onyekuru scores a lot more goals, big YES but can he do it at higher a very big QUESTION MARK❓

Onyekuru seems to shine in lower quality league.

Calm down because I never said Onyekuru is on thw same level as salah but they do have similar style of play. Is that to hard to comprehend? Pulisic despite his injury this season has 10 goals, the highest he ever scored in a less competitive league like bundesliga is 7 and Onyekuru has been consistent enough to make me say he can deliver.
You don't need to rubbish homegrown players okay? If solake has Henry's record would you still type this?
Awaziem has not had a good time with Porto in Portugal yet he has played in 2 of Europe top 5 leagues and he played well.
Henry would deliver in a big league I have no doubt.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Koboko99(m): 1:47pm On Aug 19, 2020
Everyday we keep arguing and hurling insults at each other over players that have voluntarily retired from the NT instead of focusing on the ones we have and the ones we can get.

We should respect the decisions of ighalo and Moses and allow them enjoy their retirement in peace.

Even if we succeed in convincing them to rethink and return, they'll still retire in a year or two.

These arguments are getting boring, let's channel the energy into the present players and prospects we have.

Shalom!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 1:49pm On Aug 19, 2020
komekn:


Last season in the Bundesliga with reference to a particular players is not a generalistic statement.

I can say Lukaku last season in the EPL was very good, does that automatically mean 2019/20.


Simplistic English comprehension is complicated for some people to understand.

Stop trying to dribble your way out of this


Mane 18 goals from 35 goals in the EPL.

Almost lmost retired Robben 5 goals from 12 games last season in Bundesliga.

Chukwueze 3 goals from 37 games in La Liga.

Stating facts may be EXCRUCIATINGLY PAINFUL
for you but not for me


You made mention of chuks stats for last season as well as mane's

But when it comes to Robben, we are suppose to deduce you meant his last season...

That your post reeks of lots of grammatical errors.. I don't think you expect anyone to understand the bolded above


Own up that you goofed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:04pm On Aug 19, 2020
komekn:


Your negative prejudice has so befuddled your sense of reasoning. You seem unable to comprehend the common English. The term last season is qualified by the words, "in Bundesliga".

Let me quote myself verbatim "Almost retired Robben 5 goals from 12 games last season in Bundesliga" Which is 2018/19.

But like a red flag to an angry bull you just cannot restrain yourself.






komekn:



Mane 18 goals from 35 goals in the EPL.

Almost lmost retired Robben 5 goals from 12 games last season in Bundesliga.

Chukwueze 3 goals from 37 games in La Liga.

Stating facts may be EXCRUCIATINGLY PAINFUL
for you but not for me.

You are obviously not as mature and civilised as you claim to be...and you obviously don't have the manly attribute of admitting your mistakes and taking corrections...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:09pm On Aug 19, 2020
JayromWrites:


Stop trying to dribble your way out of this


Mane 18 goals from 35 goals in the EPL.

Almost lmost retired Robben 5 goals from 12 games last season in Bundesliga.

Chukwueze 3 goals from 37 games in La Liga.

Stating facts may be EXCRUCIATINGLY PAINFUL
for you but not for me


You made mention of chuks stats for last season as well as mane's

But when it comes to Robben, we are suppose to deduce you meant his last season...

That your post reeks of lots of grammatical errors.. I don't think you expect anyone to understand the bolded above


Own up that you goofed.

He can't owe up to his mistake simply because he doesn't have the guts to..
In his mind,he is the only one that understands English...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:12pm On Aug 19, 2020
on the bold there is no conspiracy theory or unanswered question of any kind. Vicmo is a grown man who has decided to retire. let's respect him and move on. as far as I know before his retirement people were not clamoring for him to be dropped whether from fans, NFF or technical crew.

on the second bold that is debatable. You can not compare someone who had a 6 year run in the national team with people like Chukwueze and Samuel Kalu who are just starting out with the SE. sorry you can't turn around and now be using Inter Milan while conveniently ignoring how he struggled at Fenerbache.

for the record if Vicmo wants to come back i would welcome it based on his experience and ability especially in the right wing back role.
komekn:


When a player retires because he is clearly not able to meet the required standard it's accepted and he is commended for his contribution.

Vic Moses left for reasons not related to football, that leaves many unanswered questions.

When you add to the issues the fact nobody in the current SE is better than him as it stands currently. Which of our players in his position can get into Inter-Milan.

We have people making all kinds of negative assumptions based on pure ignorance and prejudice. He has a problem, he has a bad attitude, etc.

I have learned over the years that the media image of a player and his actual personality can be miles apart. So l just don't make those spurious assumptions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:21pm On Aug 19, 2020
chrisooblog:
on the bold there is no conspiracy theory or unanswered question of any kind. Vicmo is a grown man who has decided to retire. let's respect him and move on. as far as I know before his retirement people were not clamoring for him to be dropped whether from fans, NFF or technical crew.

on the second bold that is debatable. You can not compare someone who had a 6 year run in the national team with people like Chukwueze and Samuel Kalu who are just starting out with the SE. sorry you can't turn around and now be using Inter Milan while conveniently ignoring how he struggled at Fenerbache.

for the record if Vicmo wants to come back i would welcome it based on his experience and ability especially in the right wing back role.

The conspiracy theory part is quite funny grin ..
Apparently,Komekn (and forgiveness) are the only one that habour that kind of idea..
Meanwhile, they themselves have no idea whatsoever about what the conspiracy might be grin ..


We shouldn't botter ourselves about it jare... Before the last world cup, Komekn and forgiveness clamoured for Martin's,Aluko and Dele Aiyenugba to be recalled.. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 2:23pm On Aug 19, 2020
Vicmo retired because he was afraid that he might lose his starting spot in SE.


This is the MAIN and ONLY reason!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:27pm On Aug 19, 2020
komekn:


When a player retires because he is clearly not able to meet the required standard it's accepted and he is commended for his contribution.

Vic Moses left for reasons not related to football, that leaves many unanswered questions.

When you add to the issues the fact nobody in the current SE is better than him as it stands currently. Which of our players in his position can get into Inter-Milan.

We have people making all kinds of negative assumptions based on pure ignorance and prejudice. He has a problem, he has a bad attitude, etc.

I have learned over the years that the media image of a player and his actual personality can be miles apart. So l just don't make those spurious assumptions.

I actually do not feel Victor Moses has a bad attitude. I think he prioritises his club duties over the national team. He had to cut games to stay fit for his club duties. I also believed he would not risk playing with a knock for the national team.

I feel luring a player who chose to depart is a wrong call. Nothing against the young man. Victor Moses served well but he asked to leave.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:28pm On Aug 19, 2020
Edopesin:


At the bolded, I think you meant Mane still has to improve to reach Salah's level in your context

I think Mane is all-round better than Salah, Salah gets the numbers but Mane is a better player.

Dribbling
Finishing with both feet
Long-range shots
Technique
Teamwork
Defensive contribution(this is dependent on the coach though)
Creativity
Strength
Tenacity
Versatility(can play anywhere across the attack)

Salah is better in movement and pace. Salah has played as a striker in most games.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:30pm On Aug 19, 2020
forgiveness:



PSG won due to individual brilliance. Hence, individual brilliance can't be thrown aside.

Abi you wan tell me say if Aguero was in that team, Man city will loose. I don't think so.

Individual brilliance gave PSG an edge but it was not critical to their success. Their setup was top notch. Their strategic plan was precise. Then tactical motifs plaued a vital role.

We need to get the factors right, if not individual brilliance will not give us the dominance we could attain.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:30pm On Aug 19, 2020
forgiveness:


He was not part of that team throughout the whole 2015 qualifications under the marking manager Keshi and from the beginning of the 2017 Africa cup of Nations qualifications under Siasia until that crucial matches against Egypt when eyes don open say we were at the verge of not qualifying for the nations cup for the second time.

He was even benched until the last 18 minutes against Egypt in the first leg. That was after things don dabaru finish. He played the second leg though. So, he was not part of that 2017 team. Mbanu.


Things don finish? If he scored we would have beat Egypt.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:32pm On Aug 19, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


I think Mane is all-round better than Salah, Salah gets the numbers but Mane is a better player.

Dribbling
Finishing with both feet
Long-range shots
Technique
Teamwork
Defensive contribution(this is dependent on the coach though)
Creativity
Strength
Tenacity
Versatility(can play anywhere across the attack)

Salah is better in movement and pace. Salah has played as a striker in most games.

Most important is his work rate both offensively and defensively. I think this should be the true criteria to judge players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:33pm On Aug 19, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


I think Mane is all-round better than Salah, Salah gets the numbers but Mane is a better player.

Dribbling
Finishing with both feet
Long-range shots
Technique
Teamwork
Defensive contribution(this is dependent on the coach though)
Creativity
Strength
Tenacity
Versatility(can play anywhere across the attack)

Salah is better in movement and pace. Salah has played as a striker in most games.

I totally agree.

Salah plays a more advanced role up front than Mane plus the bulk of our midfielders concentrate their play to the right wing more.. that's why he gets to score more goals..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 2:34pm On Aug 19, 2020
chrisooblog:
start watching from 52:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De2Bro07pOg
can you help me with Nigeria vs Ukraine match pls
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:37pm On Aug 19, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Most important is his work rate both offensively and defensively. I think this should be the true criteria to judge players.

But this is dependent on the style of play, some coaches prefer their forwards to hang on the last defenders and do less defensive work.

Even Firmino, the striker, presses more than Salah.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 2:39pm On Aug 19, 2020
Olympiacos interested in Zaidu Sanusi as replacement for Kostas Tsimikas

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 2:39pm On Aug 19, 2020
lloydtruth:
If true, then Dennis is ill-advised.


E get something wey I wan understand,is the epl bigger than the champions league?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:42pm On Aug 19, 2020
komekn:


When a player retires because he is clearly not able to meet the required standard it's accepted and he is commended for his contribution.

Vic Moses left for reasons not related to football, that leaves many unanswered questions.

When you add to the issues the fact nobody in the current SE is better than him as it stands currently. Which of our players in his position can get into Inter-Milan.

We have people making all kinds of negative assumptions based on pure ignorance and prejudice. He has a problem, he has a bad attitude, etc.

I have learned over the years that the media image of a player and his actual personality can be miles apart. So l just don't make those spurious assumptions.


There have been many players who retired at the top of their game. How long ago did Jamie Vardy retire? The man made his choice so u have to live with that. Stop making up fake reasons because u do not know the man or how he thinks.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:43pm On Aug 19, 2020
Danielnino00:


I totally agree.

Salah plays a more advanced role up front than Mane plus the bulk of our midfielders concentrate their play to the right wing more.. that's why he gets to score more goals..

I think using the right wing is more about Trent's ability to create chances. When Trent pushes up, Fabinho drops to form a back 3 and Salah moves in as a second striker. Trent has less defensive duties compared to Robertson.

Although in the game against Arsenal, they avoided the right wing and used the left heavily.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:45pm On Aug 19, 2020
lol na true sha those two! smh

Danielnino00:


The conspiracy theory part is quite funny grin ..
Apparently,Komekn (and forgiveness) are the only one that habour that kind of idea..
Meanwhile, they themselves have no idea whatsoever about what the conspiracy might be grin ..


We shouldn't botter ourselves about it jare... Before the last world cup, Komekn and forgiveness clamoured for Martin's,Aluko and Dele Aiyenugba to be recalled.. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:53pm On Aug 19, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


But this is dependent on the style of play, some coaches prefer their forwards to hang on the last defenders and do less defensive work.

Even Firmino, the striker, presses more than Salah.

There has to be a balance. You can't operate on the same or a bit above a forwards level and be rated better if the other puts in a huge load of work defensively.

I take Mane as the better player because he contributes more in the nutshell if you weigh their offensive and defensive contributions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:58pm On Aug 19, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


Only thing left is announcement. Ebuehi to Twente confirmed. Loan deal with option to buy.

Twente manager on Ebuehi
"We are trying to loan Ebuehi with an obligation to buy".

This means Ebuehi's Benfica dream is over.

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