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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Nobody: 4:32pm On Aug 22, 2020

GamalNasser:
No matter how good this policy is Christian will never trust it's implementation under under a sectarianist like Buhari...Under a leader thats fair this won't be a problem but under Buhari it's a no no

If Yemi Osibanjo was President there will be no issue with the bill, however, Retd Major General Buhari has proven time and time again he is tyrant who has no respect for the rule of law and is nepostic and sectarian.

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by GamalNasser: 4:32pm On Aug 22, 2020

RuudVanNisteroy:
If Yemi Osibanjo was President there will be no issue wit the bill, however, Retd Major General Buhari has proven time and time again he is tyrant who has no respect for the rule of law and is nepostic and sectarian.

Exactly

Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Nobody: 5:01pm On Aug 22, 2020

Layksaide:
Please where is that RCCG Pastor?

Yemi Osibanjo should speak out against this.

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by athaboi(f): 5:04pm On Aug 22, 2020

Igbochief001:
na compare your tithe + offering + seeds to your tax ....which is more

government gives u police , cheap University , fairly functioning hospital that can save your life in emergency , ...what do your church provide again ?

police

My goodness, hahahahahaha. I attended Madonna University...I have never attended government hospital all my life. Now let me tell you...my church has given me life...let's stop here

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by porka: 5:18pm On Aug 22, 2020

TonyeBarcanista:
Those against CAMA Amendment are either ill-informed or mischievous.

In sane societies like USA, South Africa, UK, Europe, Australia etc, there are agencies that regulate religious organisations, CSOs and NGOs. Why should Nigeria's be different?

Some people said it is a fight against the church, and I ask, which Church?

If the Bible is right, the Church is the congregation of believers. It is not a building or religious organisation. And believers don't need any formal nomenclature or organisation to worship. The Bible says where two or three are gathered, CHRIST is present. The Bible never said people should establish organisations, neither did the early Christians establish organisations.

Now let's look this....

A man wakes up on a faithful morning, he approaches CAC (Government) to register his organisation, which he names XYZ Church

He lists himself, his wife, Kids or associates as Trustees

He gets certificate from the government to operate...

Yet, he argues with the government that they have no right to regulate the activities of the same organisation that he went to government to register.

He shouts persecution, war against the church and God.

Meanwhile, he is the final authority and CEO in the religious organisation, and won't hesitate to show the exit door to anyone that questions his authority.

The irony is that he abides to similar laws abroad...

As much as I'm not a fan of this administration, I support this CAMA... Although Nigeria politicians are useless

FACT:

FG or any other government cannot regulate the "Church" (congregation of believers). Even the Roman government couldn't regulate the Church.

However, government can only regulate religious organisations (formal organizations) that are registered with the government in line with the constitutional mandate.

The rule is simple, don't register your organisation with government if you don't want to be regulated... Same way you don't register your business and NGO with government if you don't want their regulation...

Please name the agency responsible for regulating CHURCHES in the US and how the 'regulations' are done.

Thank you.

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by TimeTraveler369: 5:59pm On Aug 22, 2020

I am sure Church goers and tithers will like to know how their offerings are being expended.

Am I right or am I right ? grin

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Nobody: 6:22pm On Aug 22, 2020

muykem:
There are some aspects that make sense in the law. I will not like a situation where people will formed NGO include churches and turn it to family business also. However government should understand that spiritual issues is different from physical issues. I therefore suggest that government should not intervene in church affairs except the church is going contrary to its own constitution.

Could you, without verbosity explain, how auditing a religious organisation finance [church is the members] is an issue of "spiritualism"?

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Zither(m): 6:51pm On Aug 22, 2020

Igbochief001:
it's the job of the federal government to protect it's citizens from scammers

and who is protecting us from the federal government, the greater scammer?

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Nobody: 6:56pm On Aug 22, 2020

Zither:
and who is protecting us from the federal government, the greater scammer?

the voters

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Zither(m): 7:02pm On Aug 22, 2020

Igbochief001:
the voters

when has your vote ever counted or made any difference during any elections in Nigeria?

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Ratedgang: 7:10pm On Aug 22, 2020

TonyeBarcanista:
Those against CAMA Amendment are either ill-informed or mischievous.

In sane societies like USA, South Africa, UK, Europe, Australia etc, there are agencies that regulate religious organisations, CSOs and NGOs. Why should Nigeria's be different?

Some people said it is a fight against the church, and I ask, which Church?

If the Bible is right, the Church is the congregation of believers. It is not a building or religious organisation. And believers don't need any formal nomenclature or organisation to worship. The Bible says where two or three are gathered, CHRIST is present. The Bible never said people should establish organisations, neither did the early Christians establish organisations.

Now let's look this....

A man wakes up on a faithful morning, he approaches CAC (Government) to register his organisation, which he names XYZ Church

He lists himself, his wife, Kids or associates as Trustees

He gets certificate from the government to operate...

Yet, he argues with the government that they have no right to regulate the activities of the same organisation that he went to government to register.

He shouts persecution, war against the church and God.

Meanwhile, he is the final authority and CEO in the religious organisation, and won't hesitate to show the exit door to anyone that questions his authority.

The irony is that he abides to similar laws abroad...

As much as I'm not a fan of this administration, I support this CAMA... Although Nigeria politicians are useless

FACT:

FG or any other government cannot regulate the "Church" (congregation of believers). Even the Roman government couldn't regulate the Church.

However, government can only regulate religious organisations (formal organizations) that are registered with the government in line with the constitutional mandate.

The rule is simple, don't register your organisation with government if you don't want to be regulated... Same way you don't register your business and NGO with government if you don't want their regulation...

. Stop comparing Nigeria with those countries. They have a system that works. You should be more concerned with the killings and hunger in the land.

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Globad(f): 7:10pm On Aug 22, 2020

chriskosherbal:
The church will always WIN.

But the same church is regulated in many other countries. No be so?

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by mu2sa2: 7:10pm On Aug 22, 2020

Igbochief001:
it's the job of the federal government to protect it's citizens from scammers

Exactly!
Oga the GO time is up.

Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Nobody: 7:10pm On Aug 22, 2020

Pastors dont want details of their spendings exposed. I blame fools eho pay tithe

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by crackhaus: 7:10pm On Aug 22, 2020

TonyeBarcanista:
Those against CAMA Amendment are either ill-informed or mischievous.

In sane societies like USA, South Africa, UK, Europe, Australia etc, there are agencies that regulate religious organisations, CSOs and NGOs. Why should Nigeria's be different?

Some people said it is a fight against the church, and I ask, which Church?

If the Bible is right, the Church is the congregation of believers. It is not a building or religious organisation. And believers don't need any formal nomenclature or organisation to worship. The Bible says where two or three are gathered, CHRIST is present. The Bible never said people should establish organisations, neither did the early Christians establish organisations.

Now let's look this....

A man wakes up on a faithful morning, he approaches CAC (Government) to register his organisation, which he names XYZ Church

He lists himself, his wife, Kids or associates as Trustees

He gets certificate from the government to operate...

Yet, he argues with the government that they have no right to regulate the activities of the same organisation that he went to government to register.

He shouts persecution, war against the church and God.

Meanwhile, he is the final authority and CEO in the religious organisation, and won't hesitate to show the exit door to anyone that questions his authority.

The irony is that he abides to similar laws abroad...

As much as I'm not a fan of this administration, I support this CAMA... Although Nigeria politicians are useless

FACT:

FG or any other government cannot regulate the "Church" (congregation of believers). Even the Roman government couldn't regulate the Church.

However, government can only regulate religious organisations (formal organizations) that are registered with the government in line with the constitutional mandate.

The rule is simple, don't register your organisation with government if you don't want to be regulated... Same way you don't register your business and NGO with government if you don't want their regulation...

Are these churches really registered with the CAC?

Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by tillaman(m): 7:11pm On Aug 22, 2020

Yes

Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Openbusiness: 7:11pm On Aug 22, 2020

Igbochief001:
it's the job of the federal government to protect it's citizens from scammers

your federal government are the biggest scammers in this country

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Globad(f): 7:11pm On Aug 22, 2020

[quote author= post=93102418]I really do not understand this government o.. are you saying God should give you his financial records.. I know some dumb dumb would come and attack me now ..
Anyway come and buy kids Educational Tablets for your your children to help them stay ahead of their peers view my profile now[/quote]The same churches submit to the government in foreign countries

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by MosheDayan: 7:11pm On Aug 22, 2020

Igbochief001:
it's the job of the federal government to protect it's citizens from scammers

like they have protected the people of southern Kaduna and North Eastern states. hypocrisy.

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by MASTERMIND04(m): 7:11pm On Aug 22, 2020

Igbochief001:
it's the job of the federal government to protect it's citizens from scammers

Lol

Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by lugo99(m): 7:11pm On Aug 22, 2020

did this info applies to herbalist too? owo ogun, ifa, sango, obatala, no get account o

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Openbusiness: 7:12pm On Aug 22, 2020*

Kekereekun123:
Pastors dont want details of their spendings exposed. I blame fools eho pay tithe

Oga don't be half clever. CAMA is not the end game. Taxation of religious institutions (Churches especially) is the end game. CAMA is just a means to that end. Once the Federal scammers get their prying eyes into financial inflow of Churches, the next thing they will introduce is taxation. Because your govt is looking for more pockets to rob to maintain their opulent and wasteful lifestyle of living like emperors in the land. So they need more funds. Same way LASG when they got their eyes into how much e-hailing companies were making, next thing na jumbo tax they slammed on them, and it came under the disguise of regulating the e-hailing business. But the ones they saw they couldn't implement tax on without it backfiring on their head, they shut them down aka Gokada and friends. CAMA is nothing but a step towards taxing religious bodies. Freedom of Worship is a fundamental human rights and religous bodies fall under NON PROFIT organization anywhere in the world. Taxation of religous bodies is equal to religious oppression

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by Sarmiz24(m): 7:12pm On Aug 22, 2020

u expected to get likes right? But sorry bro what u wrote here is trash no one give an F bout your lame ass opinion Islamist Terror Leader

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Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by earnit3: 7:12pm On Aug 22, 2020

Lol

Re: CAMA: FG Says Religious Bodies Must Submit Details Of Their Finances by AgentNairaland(f): 7:13pm On Aug 22, 2020

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