Eagban:

The meaning of " Son of God" in this context, means someone having the nature of God that is why it annoys the Jews so much to the point of wanting to kill him...
Why is Jesus Christ calling himself the Son of God different from any other person?

It's just a conspiracy that's all, Pilate understood that clearly that's why he wanted to free Jesus by all means until they threatened Pilate with the name of Caesar!

The case is more complicated than just ordinary claims my guy!

DappaD:



OK oo



So now you're ready to condescend to our level and start wallowing in the mud?
It is happening o

Guy, I'll make you eat your own words if you don't vamoose.

Ok oo? As in you have accepted the challenge?

Have I thrown any insults at any of you? Doing that will mean condescending to your level.

1 Cor 1:24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.


Yahushua the Messiah as the POWER and WISDOM of Yahveh Almighty cannot be anything else other than God Almighty.

elated177:


Ok oo? As in you have accepted the challenge?

Have I thrown any insults at any of you? Doing that will mean condescend to your level.

That one is your business, elated177.

Maximus69:


It's just a conspiracy that's all, Pilate understood that clearly that's why he wanted to free Jesus by all means until they threatened Pilate with the name of Caesar!

The case is more complicated than just ordinary claims my guy!

There is no complications in the words of God. From creation up till today The Almighty God has always made himself clear...
Why would His claiming to be the Son of God be considered blasphemy and be worthy of a death sentence? The Jewish leaders understood exactly what Jesus meant by the phrase “Son of God.” To be the Son of God is to be of the same nature as God. The Son of God is “of God.” The claim to be of the same nature as God—to in fact be God—was blasphemy to the Jewish leaders; therefore, they demanded Jesus’ death, in keeping with Leviticus 24:15. Hebrews 1:3 expresses this very clearly, “The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being.”

Eagban:
There is no complications in the words of God. From creation up till today The Almighty God has always made himself clear...
Why would His claiming to be the Son of God be considered blasphemy and be worthy of a death sentence? The Jewish leaders understood exactly what Jesus meant by the phrase “Son of God.” To be the Son of God is to be of the same nature as God. The Son of God is “of God.” The claim to be of the same nature as God—to in fact be God—was blasphemy to the Jewish leaders; therefore, they demanded Jesus’ death, in keeping with Leviticus 24:15. Hebrews 1:3 expresses this very clearly, “The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being.”

Eagerness to accuse is worrying you my friend!

I never said God's word is complicating but the case Pharisees put up against Jesus is what is complicated!

Maximus69:


Eagerness to accuse is worrying you my friend!

I never said God's word is complicating but the case Pharisees put up against Jesus is what is complicated!

Okay! Please tell me about this complicated case, able barrister.

Eagban:


Okay! Please tell me about this complicated case, able barrister.

Hmmmmmmmm, just try reading the story again but this time like a real life event with each of the characters doing what they're doing with motives.
You'll grasp how complicated the case was, don't just think like credulous Churchgoers who only feels Jesus should die for their sins and however the case goes they're not interested!

Maximus69:

Hmmmmmmmm, just try reading the story again but this time like a real life event with each of the characters doing what they're doing with motives.
You'll grasp how complicated the case was, don't just think like credulous Churchgoers who only feels Jesus should die for their sins and however the case goes they're not interested!

Understanding the deity of Jesus is fundamental in defending the truth of the Christian faith.The identity of Jesus Christ is at the core of the Christian message, that is why Jesus asked his disciples, "who do you say I am?"( Matt 16:15)...

Peter acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God(Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Matthew 16:16 WEB
https://bible.com/bible/206/mat.16.16.WEB).

Paul acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God (Rom 1:1-3 KJV - 1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh).

The angel Gabriel acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God (The angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore also the holy one who is born from you will be called the Son of God.
Luke 1:35 WEB
https://bible.com/bible/206/luk.1.35.WEB).

The demons acknowledged Jesus as Son of God (Mat 8:29 KJV - 29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?).

Jesus Christ showed He is deity by forgiving the sins of the paralytic (Mark 2: 1-12) and the Jewish leaders acknowledged it and were riled because of it.

The only motive I see here is Jesus wanted the whole world to know He is God..

Barrister Maximus69 you do not have any sound argument. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior. If you reject him you reject God.

Eagban:



Understanding the deity of Jesus is fundamental in defending the truth of the Christian faith.The identity of Jesus Christ is at the core of the Christian message, that is why Jesus asked his disciples, "who do you say I am?"( Matt 16:15)...

Peter acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God(Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Matthew 16:16 WEB
https://bible.com/bible/206/mat.16.16.WEB).

Paul acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God (Rom 1:1-3 KJV - 1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh).

The angel Gabriel acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God (The angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore also the holy one who is born from you will be called the Son of God.
Luke 1:35 WEB
https://bible.com/bible/206/luk.1.35.WEB).

The demons acknowledged Jesus as Son of God (Mat 8:29 KJV - 29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?).

Jesus Christ showed He is deity by forgiving the sins of the paralytic (Mark 2: 1-12) and the Jewish leaders acknowledged it and were riled because of it.

The only motive I see here is Jesus wanted the whole world to know He is God..

Barrister Maximus69 you do not have any sound argument. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior. If you reject him you reject God.

John 20:23, Jesus disciples have power to forgive sins. They are God too, according to your spiritual logic

so who were the other spirit sons ?

All spirit beings loyal to Jehovah are his sons.

Jesus is begotten because @ Romans 11:35-36 his Father created him directly & only Jesus is given unique privileges-(appointed King of the kingdom of God) , God his Father did not give other sons.

Compare Hebrew 11:17-19, Abraham is a Father of multitudes, but only Isaac is begotten among his children
Because, only Isaac was given unique privileges (promised Seed, the Messiah came from Issac lineage) not given to other children of Abraham.

Eagban:



Understanding the deity of Jesus is fundamental in defending the truth of the Christian faith.The identity of Jesus Christ is at the core of the Christian message, that is why Jesus asked his disciples, "who do you say I am?"( Matt 16:15)...

Peter acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God(Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Matthew 16:16 WEB
https://bible.com/bible/206/mat.16.16.WEB).

Paul acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God (Rom 1:1-3 KJV - 1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh).

The angel Gabriel acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God (The angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore also the holy one who is born from you will be called the Son of God.
Luke 1:35 WEB
https://bible.com/bible/206/luk.1.35.WEB).

The demons acknowledged Jesus as Son of God (Mat 8:29 KJV - 29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?).

Jesus Christ showed He is deity by forgiving the sins of the paralytic (Mark 2: 1-12) and the Jewish leaders acknowledged it and were riled because of it.

The only motive I see here is Jesus wanted the whole world to know He is God..

Barrister Maximus69 you do not have any sound argument. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior. If you reject him you reject God.

Well he (Jesus) is our Master, Lord and King!

That's what all the over 8,700,000 members of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization globally teaches but as for the God we worship, sorry it's not Jesus rather our God is Jehovah the one who sent Jesus, that's where you and i differ!

Janosky:


John 20:23, Jesus disciples have power to forgive sins. They are God too, according to your spiritual logic

After saying this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
John 20:22‭-‬23 HCSB
https://bible.com/bible/72/jhn.20.22-23.HCSB


You forgot the part where he breathed on them and gave them the power of the Holy Spirit... The disciples would not have gotten this power except it was given to them by the Almighty.

Eagban:
After saying this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
John 20:22‭-‬23 HCSB
https://bible.com/bible/72/jhn.20.22-23.HCSB


You forgot the part where he breathed on them and gave them the power of the Holy Spirit... The disciples would not have gotten this power except it was given to them by the Almighty.

That's why Jesus himself said it's God who empowered him NOT himself! John 11:41-42

Maximus69:


That's why Jesus himself said it's God who empowered him NOT himself! John 11:41-42

Fine ! when next you pray for forgiveness of your sins, pray in the name of Peter and Paul! And not the name of Jesus.

Eagban:

Fine ! when next you pray for forgiveness of your sins, pray in the name of Peter and Paul! And not the name of Jesus.

The name was given as a key to the door for blessings but the blessings are in God's hands not Jesus!
That's why God could answer the prayer of a faithful woman suffering from flow of blood just because she touched Jesus' garment when Jesus himself didn't know how or why the power (God gave him) went out from him! Luke 8:45-46

So it's the one who sent him that demanded we use his name otherwise nobody needs to ask God anything through any name after all God answered so many prayers in the Old Testament without involving Jesus' name!

Maximus69:

The name was given as a key to the door for blessings but the blessings are in God's hands not Jesus!
That's why God could answer the prayer of a faithful woman suffering from flow of blood just because she touched Jesus' garment when Jesus himself didn't know how or why the power (God gave him) went out from him! Luke 8:45-46

So it's the one who sent him that demanded we use his name otherwise nobody needs to ask God anything through any name after all God answered so many prayers in the Old Testament without involving Jesus' name!

Only God can forgive sins, and Christ, being God, has the power to do so as well, but He never communicated any such power to His disciples, nor did they ever assume any such power to themselves. The key to understanding the meaning of John 20:23 lies in the previous two verses: “Again Jesus said, ‘Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.’ And with that he breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit.’” He sent them, as He is sending us, to bring the good news of the way to salvation and heaven to the whole world. Jesus was leaving the earth physically but promised God would be with them in the person of the Holy Spirit living in them. As they proclaimed the gospel, they could honestly tell people who believed in that message that their sins were forgiven, and they could honestly tell people that did not believe in the message that their sins were not forgiven and that they stand condemned in God’s eyes. Jesus said, “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him” (John 3:36).

Eagban:
Only God can forgive sins, and Christ, being God, has the power to do so as well, but He never communicated any such power to His disciples, nor did they ever assume any such power to themselves. The key to understanding the meaning of John 20:23 lies in the previous two verses: “Again Jesus said, ‘Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.’ And with that he breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit.’” He sent them, as He is sending us, to bring the good news of the way to salvation and heaven to the whole world. Jesus was leaving the earth physically but promised God would be with them in the person of the Holy Spirit living in them. As they proclaimed the gospel, they could honestly tell people who believed in that message that their sins were forgiven, and they could honestly tell people that did not believe in the message that their sins were not forgiven and that they stand condemned in God’s eyes. Jesus said, “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him” (John 3:36).

Jesus can't forgive sin on his own accord Sir!

He followed God's standards so whoever agrees with such standards Jesus will declare that the sins of such a person has been forgiven by God!

Maximus69:


Jesus can't forgive sin on his own accord Sir!

He followed God's standards so whoever agrees with such standards Jesus will declare that the sins of such a person has been forgiven by God!

Jesus Christ claim of being the "Son of God" was subject of contention with the Jewish leaders likewise is forgiving of the sins of the paralytic because they acknowledged the fact that He was claiming to be God...Like the Jewish leaders, you and the entire body of Jehovah witnesses are still doing it today...

Just like I said before, if the Bible can't help you to understand the divine nature of Jesus, I cannot help you either...Have a nice day!

Maximus69:


Jesus can't forgive sin on his own accord Sir!

He followed God's standards so whoever agrees with such standards Jesus will declare that the sins of such a person has been forgiven by God!

for those who care to know ; John 14:6
it's either through Jesus or am sorry no other way. i didn't say so. the word of God did

Eagban:

Jesus Christ claim of being the "Son of God" was subject of contention with the Jewish leaders likewise is forgiving of the sins of the paralytic because they acknowledged the fact that He was claiming to be God...Like the Jewish leaders, you and the entire body of Jehovah witnesses are still doing it today...

Just like I said before, if the Bible can't help you to understand the divine nature of Jesus, I cannot help you either...Have a nice day!

If you repent of your sins, the heavens will forgive you. All you need is a repentant attitude and any real servant of God will declare your sins forgiven that's what Jesus did!

Maximus69:


If you repent of your sins, the heavens will forgive you. All you need is a repentant attitude and any real servant of God will declare your sins forgiven that's what Jesus did!

You do not have regard for God.

Eagban:

You do not have regard for God.

Yet i'm talking about repentance shey?

Just say your intolerant god is boiling like the Boko Haram blood sucking god!

Eagban:

Jesus Christ claim of being the "Son of God" was subject of contention with the Jewish leaders likewise is forgiving of the sins of the paralytic because they acknowledged the fact that He was claiming to be God...Like the Jewish leaders, you and the entire body of Jehovah witnesses are still doing it today...

Just like I said before, if the Bible can't help you to understand the divine nature of Jesus, I cannot help you either...Have a nice day!

John 10:33,36
“We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”


34Jesus replied, “
36then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God?

Bros, John 10:33,36 Jesus Christ DISPROVED your FALSE claim as well as the FALSE claim of the Jews.

Jesus Christ NEVER claim to be God.
That Lie against Jesus, is now the doctrine of Trinity today.
The wicked Jews laid the foundation for the FRAUD Christendom copied from them.

bobbyjfc:

for those who care to know ; John 14:6
it's either through Jesus or am sorry no other way. i didn't say so. the word of God did

Of course that's what Jesus said but God's Prophets have declared sinners forgiven even before Jesus {2Samuel 12:13} so John 14:6 has a totally different meaning from this!

DappaD:


That one is your business, elated177.

Mmhmm!

bingbagbo:

John 5:46-47
[46]For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.

[47]But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

yeah,u said so which u are correct,he's the God of all flesh.

Eagban:

The meaning of " Son of God" in this context, means someone having the nature of God that is why it annoys the Jews so much to the point of wanting to kill him...
?

Oga, that is your interpretation,not holy scriptures.
John 19:6, the Jews agreed Jesus is the son of God.
No Maggi & spices added to the verse.

Eagban:


Why is Jesus Christ calling himself the Son of God different from any other person?

Study your Bible, John 10:33-36.
Your Trinity mentors DUBIOUSLY put Capital letter G in verse 33,whereas " a god" is the correct rendition.

bingbagbo:

John 5:46-47
[46]For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.

[47]But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

Moses referred to Jesus (Christ) as another prophet to be sent by the same God who sent Moses:

Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him. This is in response to what you asked of Jehovah your God in Horʹeb on the day of the assembly when you said, ‘Do not let me hear the voice of Jehovah my God or see this great fire anymore, so that I do not die.’ Then Jehovah said to me, ‘What they have said is good. I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:15-18

Apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus is the prophet that came in the manner of Moses:

“Repent, therefore, and turn around so as to get your sins blotted out, so that seasons of refreshing may come from Jehovah himself and he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus. Heaven must hold this one within itself until the times of restoration of all things of which God spoke through the mouth of his holy prophets of old. In fact, Moses said: ‘Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to whatever he tells you. Act 3:19-22

So Jesus is the PROPHET who came in the manner of Moses because Moses WAS God {Exodus 7:1} just as Jesus was God! Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1