Arrewa:
Aikin ka na kyau Dan uwa...

Na gode dan uwa.

fulanimafia:


Of course the East can not compete with the North on any of those metrics or HDI's because it's population is dwarfed greatly by that of the North and ALL the metrics you've stated are calculated on Per-Capita Basis. I expect you understand what that means.

Simple, common sense.

So your only reasonable excuse for the mediocrity of the North is that the North dwarfs the East in population? You still haven't explained to me why the North has massively contrived to underperform on nearly all the metrics obtainable in Nigeria - despite having a very vast population, more quota system based systems-lower cut off marks to gain admission into your academic institutions, bigger Federal presence in terms of infrastructural developments, enjoying the larger share of political advantages in Nigeria etc than many states in the South. Aboki you daft sha

AniOmaa:

So your only reasonable excuse for the mediocrity of the North is that the North dwarfs the East in population? You still haven't explained to me why the North has massively contrived to underperform on nearly all the metrics obtainable in Nigeria - despite having a very vast population, more quota system based systems-lower cut off marks to gain admission into your academic institutions, bigger Federal presence in terms of infrastructural developments, enjoying the larger share of political advantages in Nigeria etc than many states in the South. Aboki you daft sha

If your brain was unable to process and identify the link between the North's rankings on HDI's and it's huge population, despite the hint you were given (all metrics are reported on per capita basis), then that is your fault, not mine.

fulanimafia:


Lol are you the only migratory businessmen? What is BUA doing in Akwa Ibom & Edo? What is Dangote doing in Lekki, Ghana? Who brings beef, tomatoes, onions etc. to the south daily and from where?

We are essentially saying the same thing.

Millions of you cannot stay in your region and cannot stop trooping to the North for your livelihood for whatever excuse you've given, even amidst the insecurity, but always pretend that you want to leave Nigeria but the North is holding you back.

If you could not see the simple nexus between your position and mine, then you are in no position to question my IQ.

The highlighted basically has made my case easier, you're as incorrigibly daft as I expected so cognitive dissonance is to be expected. When people migrate to other places, is it only to seek for better means of livelihood? I clearly stated the major reasons why migration has been a huge factor in the East among other number of reasons has mostly been due to the landmass and the increasing population in the East ;which inevitably will be commensurate with mass movements of people to other places (Not much of rocket science now is it?), and of course the highly competitive economic market in the East which has been the mainstay for movements out of the region for years now. You stupidly alluded that poverty was the reason for Igbos moving in large numbers to the North, yet all the statistics to that effect released by credible bureaus both nationally and internationally have invariably shown that the South Eastern states have mostly bettered the North on any HDI( per capita basis according to the you), you have far poorer people probably in the whole of Sub-Sahara Africa... simply because your people are irredeemably stuck in the archaic concepts of reasoning... thus making evolution harder even in a contemporary world.

That's why it's not inconceivable to chop off the heads of human beings simply because they *blasphemed* against some prophet, or embark on a blood-letting spree against your own brothers of a different faith because some remote European country insulted your useless Prophet.

fulanimafia:


If your brain was unable to process and identify the link between the North's rankings on HDI's and it's huge population, despite the hint you were given (all metrics are reported on per capita basis), then that is your fault, not mine.

Your huge population is a poorer excuse for why your region is a flood of human disasters of all types. So you can shove your "Per capita basis" balderdash up your arse. You people are the problem of this country, and the earlier you plagues are excised and left to your hopeless devices... the better for the whole of humanity.

AniOmaa:

The highlighted basically has made my case easier, you're as incorrigibly daft as I expected so cognitive dissonance is to be expected. When people migrate to other places, is it only to seek for better means of livelihood? I clearly stated the major reasons why migration has been a huge factor in the East among other number of reasons has mostly been due to the landmass and the increasing population in the East ;which inevitably will be commensurate with mass movements of people to other places (Not much of rocket science now is it?), and of course the highly competitive economic market in the East which has been the mainstay for movements out of the region for years now. You stupidly alluded that poverty was the reason for Igbos moving in large numbers to the North, yet all the statistics to that effect released by credible bureaus both nationally and internationally have invariably shown that the South Eastern states have mostly bettered the North on any HDI( per capita basis according to the you), you have far poorer people probably in the whole of Sub-Sahara Africa... simply because your people are irredeemably stuck in the archaic concepts of reasoning... thus making evolution harder even in a contemporary world.

That's why it's not inconceivable to chop off the heads of human beings simply because they *blasphemed* against some prophet, or embark on a blood-letting spree against your own brothers of a different faith because some remote European country insulted your useless Prophet.

Go and read.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

fulanimafia:


Go and read.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Go strap a bomb on yourself and find the next available Christians to kill for your pedophilic prophet.

Allah Akbar, terrorist scum.

AniOmaa:

Go strap a bomb on yourself and find the next available Christians to kill for your pedophilic prophet.

Allah Akbar, terrorist scum.

Stop crying

AniOmaa:

Your huge population is a poorer excuse for why your region is a flood of human disasters of all types. So you can shove your "Per capita basis" balderdash up your arse. You people are the problem of this country, and the earlier you plagues are excised and left to your hopeless devices... the better for the whole of humanity.

Your resort to ad-hominem attacks don't mask your glaring ignorance, limited capacity & absence of a logical response.

Feel free to drown in the gutter alone.

Bye

fulanimafia:


Your resort to ad-hominem attacks don't mask your glaring ignorance & absence of a logical response.

Feel free to drown in the gutter alone.

Bye.

You are a mere Northerner- a region known for having some of the most unintelligent folks out there.

So I could decide to sound real stupid, and still up your intellectual superior.

Now fu*k off you terrorist.

lol, fulanimafia is a funny dude. Bloke's using population as an excuse for the sorry state of their human devt.... Dude, the NW is d poorest region in d country, followed by NE, then NC, stop lumping 3 regions together to spite one region...

theenchanter:
lol, fulanimafia is a funny dude. Bloke's using population as an excuse for the sorry state of their human devt.... Dude, the NW is d poorest region in d country, followed by NE, then NC, stop lumping 3 regions together to spite one region...

Bros welcome to the dilemma I found myself in arguing with an Aboki dunce, the one with the IQ of a cow for that matter

AniOmaa:

Bros welcome to the dilemma I found myself in arguing with an Aboki dunce, the one with the IQ of a cow for that matter

ah, bros calm down, ur blood dey hot o. No dey use derogatory words for people irrespective of their ethnic affilation.

theenchanter:
lol, fulanimafia is a funny dude. Bloke's using population as an excuse for the sorry state of their human devt.... Dude, the NW is d poorest region in d country, followed by NE, then NC, stop lumping 3 regions together to spite one region...

Illuminating the basis upon which the HDI statistics (which you base your "sorry state of their human development" on) are calculated, is not the same thing as justifying it.

The East, like the SS and other regions also suffer from poverty and underdevelopment (the baby harvesting, shops in toilet gutter, ritual killing, skull mining kind) but the numbers on HDI indexes (eg. Poverty, infant mortality) will always be lower than the North, because the very basis they are calculated (per capita), which is population, is also significantly higher in the North, even if we were to isolate any Northern sub region like the NW.

Considering that most of the states have similar federal allocations (with the core northern states receiving the least) and most states are only just beginning to focus on IGR, it is rational to expect that limited resources spread over a greater population will spread thinner. Not so?

These are facts, however I'm also aware that it's impossible to wake a person pretending to be asleep. Cheers.

Imagine

fulanimafia:


Illuminating the basis upon which the HDI statistics (which you base your "sorry state of their human development" on) are calculated, is not the same thing as justifying it.

The East, like the SS and other regions also suffer from poverty and underdevelopment (the baby harvesting, shops in toilet gutter, ritual killing, skull mining kind) but the numbers on HDI indexes (eg. Poverty, infant mortality) will always be lower than the North, because the very basis they are calculated (per capita), which is population, is also significantly higher in the North, even if we were to isolate any Northern sub region like the NW.

Considering that most of the states have similar federal allocations (with the core northern states receiving the least) and most states are only just beginning to focus on IGR, it is rational to expect that limited resources spread over a greater population will spread thinner. Not so?

These are facts, however I'm also aware that it's impossible to wake a person pretending to be asleep. Cheers.

I see and understand your points which you detailed articulately. But how can you explain the other telling factors (outside of the population and low federal allocation excuses you used) to explain the fact the Northern states for years now have continued to underperform in all the academic indexes despite having the lowest cut off marks for all their institutions? surely that's not a "population" or HDI type problem to use and underpin your explanations.

Your region has produced the more Presidents, legislators both at Federal and state levels, even Military rulers and definitely receive larger federal allocations than almost all states in the East (if I'm not mistaken), yet perform very poorly on the sustainability of basic standards of living... it's surely a problem beyond just the scope you preen with.

Bobonnukwu:

I see and understand your points which you detailed articulately. But how can you explain the other telling factors (outside of the population and low federal allocation excuses you used) to explain the fact the Northern states for years now have continued to underperform in all the academic indexes despite having the lowest cut off marks for all their institutions? surely that's not a "population" or HDI type problem to use and underpin your explanations.

Your region has produced the more Presidents, legislators both at Federal and state levels, even Military rulers and definitely receive larger federal allocations than almost all states in the East (if I'm not mistaken), yet perform very poorly on the sustainability of basic standards of living... it's surely a problem beyond just the scope you preen with.

Thank you, I appreciate your honesty.

While it is a fact that education (the ability to read and write) has been widespread in the North since the 18th century; with regard to Western education, it is no secret that ab initio, the North leaned more towards Islamic education and that trend only turned towards Western education in the last couple of decades, and amplified since the return to democratic rule. This definitely had an impact on Western school enrolment and attitude of parents in the north (similar to the educational apathy that Igbo boys who preferred apprenticeship and trade were known with in the past) but like I said, the trend is quick flipping with increased enrolment into our schools and tertiary institutions and its paying off.

I was recently on a flight to the South East and was delighted to find that the entire crew were made up of Northerners (Azman Air), most of whom were graduates from the hundreds of Kano students that were given scholarships abroad by Kwankwaso to study piloting and other aviation courses just a few years ago. This is just an instance of the visible fruits that we are reaping from the silent educational revolution ongoing in the North which is spurring rapid development. Rano Air owned by another Kano Businessman is also launching soon and you can bet where he will source his manpower from.

While it is true that the North has remained politically dominant, its also true that the political elite across board are usually self serving and corrupt so the outcome everywhere is unsurprising. Regarding allocations, your claim is patently false.

Arrewa:
Igbos Sha!

Tomorrow someone will come to tell me that Igbos are the smartest people in Nigeria.

So for una akpu brain...HausaFulanis don't have Christians... Kanuri and Nupe don't have Christians.

The only people that have Christians in the north are the southern kaduna and some other tribes in the north central.

So you people declare north central a Christian region and decided to give them the name "middle belt" and declare all Hausa and Fulanis in the north east and north west as Muslims.

Wow!!

Let me educate you.

We have thousands of Hausa Christians.

We have thousands of fulanis Christians...

We have Hausa and fulani reverence fathers and pastors here in the north.

We have thousands of churches here in the north where Christians among us do worship.

Adamawa has large number of Christians

Taraba has large number of Christians.

Bauchi has large number of Christians.

Gombe has large number of Christians.

Borno has large number of Christians.

Kano has large number of Hausa and Fulani Christians.

Just that Muslims are always the majority in Northern Nigeria.

The only Christians in the north having problem with their Muslim counterpart are the Christians in southern kaduna and jos which is a supremacy battle.

Have you ever heard of fulanis Christians and Muslims fighting in bauchi?

Have ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in kastina?

Have you ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in Sokoto??

Have ever heard of Hausafulani Christians and Muslims fighting in kano??

That's why you igbo extremist declare all of us as Muslims

Here in kano We don't only just have Hausafulani Christians and Muslims... We also have "maguzawa" traditional worshipers! Yan Bori! We have large number of them. As long as you don't insult Islam. You are good to go.

You can even worship stone in the north we don't care.

Stop insulting Igbos!.

Any way, from your analysis, Nigeria do not have religious problem in most parts except in pucket of places & we should leave it at that.

fulanimafia:


Illuminating the basis upon which the HDI statistics (which you base your "sorry state of their human development" on) are calculated, is not the same thing as justifying it.

The East, like the SS and other regions also suffer from poverty and underdevelopment (the baby harvesting, shops in toilet gutter, ritual killing, skull mining kind) but the numbers on HDI indexes (eg. Poverty, infant mortality) will always be lower than the North, because the very basis they are calculated (per capita), which is population, is also significantly higher in the North, even if we were to isolate any Northern sub region like the NW.

Considering that most of the states have similar federal allocations (with the core northern states receiving the least) and most states are only just beginning to focus on IGR, it is rational to expect that limited resources spread over a greater population will spread thinner. Not so?

These are facts, however I'm also aware that it's impossible to wake a person pretending to be asleep. Cheers.

lol, u're mounting on a cyclic argument cos u think I'm attacking u for ur opinion, I'm only calling u out cos u're lumping 3 regions together to spite one region and still use "population" as a basis to corroborate ur claim. Like u wouldn't know 3 regions will be populated than one region? And if u're determined to still go that way, u can compare the 3 northern regions with d 3 southern regions together.

And yes, poverty amongst other social vices are everywhere in d country, I can't even state where it's rampant now, thanks to d ongoing onslaught in d northern region.

Lol, federal allocation is ur saving grace? Dude, u're beginning to sound funny. Human devt starts by sending kids to school, to healthcare delivery and every other thing will fall into place and we know it's recently the core-north are embracing Western education.

Spare us the population shitt.

fulanimafia:


Thank you, I appreciate your honesty.

While it is a fact that education (the ability to read and write) has been widespread in the North since the 18th century; with regard to Western education, it is no secret that ab initio, the North leaned more towards Islamic education and that trend only turned towards Western education in the last couple of decades, and amplified since the return to democratic rule. This definitely had an impact on Western school enrolment and attitude of parents in the north (similar to the educational apathy that Igbo boys who preferred apprenticeship and trade were known with in the past) but like I said, the trend is quick flipping with increased enrolment into our schools and tertiary institutions and its paying off.

I was recently on a flight to the South East and was delighted to find that the entire crew were made up of Northerners (Azman Air), most of whom were graduates from the hundreds of Kano students that were given scholarships abroad by Kwankwaso to study piloting and other aviation courses just a few years ago. This is just an instance of the visible fruits that we are reaping from the silent educational revolution ongoing in the North which is spurring rapid development. Rano Air owned by another Kano Businessman is also launching soon and you can bet where he will source his manpower from.

While it is true that the North has remained politically dominant, its also true that the political elite across board are usually self serving and corrupt so the outcome everywhere is unsurprising. Regarding allocations, your claim is patently false.

education is not just d ability to read and write....... It's more about acquiring knowledge. And rather unfortunately, u favor Islamic education over Western education. Islamic education in today's world without it's corresponding Western education is worthless.

And it's a good thing that the core-north are now embracing Western education. If it had embraced it like half a century ago, it would've developed past this stage and ur rants on population as a justification won't be needed cos people wouldn't even see the need to keep giving birth to children they can't cater for that ended up becoming social menace.

theenchanter:
lol, u're mounting on a cyclic argument cos u think I'm attacking u for ur opinion, I'm only calling u out cos u're lumping 3 regions together to spite one region and still use "population" as a basis to corroborate ur claim. Like u wouldn't know 3 regions will be populated than one region? And if u're determined to still go that way, u can compare the 3 northern regions with d 3 southern regions together.

And yes, poverty amongst other social vices are everywhere in d country, I can't even state where it's rampant now, thanks to d ongoing onslaught in d northern region.

Lol, federal allocation is ur saving grace? Dude, u're beginning to sound funny. Human devt starts by sending kids to school, to healthcare delivery and every other thing will fall into place and we know it's recently the core-north are embracing Western education.

Spare us the population shitt.

Wrong actually. Most, if not all of HDI statistics published by the NBS, are on a geopolitical zone basis, and those indexes are the basis of our discourse. Nobody lumped anything.

Indeed population doesn't just have a huge impact, but it is the ACTUAL underlying value that all NBS statistics are computed upon (per capita) and which you base your own arguments on, which therefore makes it impossible to discount, if you don't want to end up contradicting yourself.

theenchanter:
education is not just d ability to read and write....... It's more about acquiring knowledge. And rather unfortunately, u favor Islamic education over Western education. Islamic education in today's world without it's corresponding Western education is a worthless.

And it's a good thing that the core-north are now embracing Western education. If it had embraced it like half a century ago, it would've developed past this stage and ur rants on population as a justification won't be needed cos people wouldn't even see the need to keep giving birth to children they can't cater for that ended up becoming social menace.

... and somehow you deduced that I favour Islamic over western education from that post?

Genius.

fulanimafia:


Wrong actually. Most, if not all of HDI statistics published by the NBS, are on a geopolitical zone basis, and those indexes are the basis of our discourse. Nobody lumped anything.

Indeed population doesn't just have a huge impact, but it is the ACTUAL underlying value that all NBS statistics are computed upon (per capita) and which you base your own arguments on, which therefore makes it impossible to discount, if you don't want to end up contradicting yourself.

HDI statistics by NBS is primarily based on states and not on geopolitical zone, it's from d states indexes that geopolitical zone indexes are drawn.

Bros, stop using population as an excuse, it's neausatiing. If u had a highly developed populace, u wouldn't be ranting over it, and as a matter of fact, north and south almost have d same number of people... Why do u think indexes of the north is abysmally poor compared to d south?

It's all about spending on human development by govt, when ur govts are spending on mass marriages and religious pilgrimages, many southern govts were investing in mass education in their respective states.

We appreciate ur new breed of govt for investing in education... People like former gov shettima and zulum will forever be appreciated by me.

fulanimafia:


... and somehow you deduced that I favour Islamic over western education from that post?

Genius.

not u as a person...... The "U" signifies ur northern govt.

.... Spend more time in school instead of bickering on d internet.

theenchanter:
HDI statistics by NBS is primarily based on states and not on geopolitical zone, it's from d states indexes that geopolitical zone indexes are drawn.

Bros, stop using population as an excuse, it's neausatiing. If u had a highly developed populace, u wouldn't be ranting over it, and as a matter of fact, north and south almost have d same number of people... Why do u think indexes of the north is abysmally poor compared to d south?

It's all about spending on human development by govt, when ur govts are spending on mass marriages and religious pilgrimages, many southern govts were investing in mass education in their respective states.

We appreciate ur new breed of govt for investing in education... People like former gov shettima and zulum will forever be appreciated by me.

Abeg spare me that!

Who are the people concocting this fake stats??

In reality the north is in every aspect more better than the south east.

Stop deceiving each with all these fake stats.

The north is today is far better than south east you can only deceive those that haven't been to the east

Arrewa:
Abeg spare is that!

Who are the people concocting this fake stats??

In reality the north is in every aspect more better than the south east.

Stop deceiving each with all these fake stats.

The north is today is far better than south east you can only deceive those that haven't been to the east

I pray u'll be delivered from this ur wahala with S.E..... I pray u get well afterward.

U can forward ur rants to NBS after u're cured from the megalomaniacal hallucination u're currently experiencing.

theenchanter:
not u as a person...... The "U" signifies ur northern govt.

.... Spend more time in school instead of bickering on d internet.

Clearly the circus is in town.

Arrewa:
Abeg spare is that!

Who are the people concocting this fake stats??

In reality the north is in every aspect more better than the south east.

Stop deceiving each with all these fake stats.

The north is today is far better than south east you can only deceive those that haven't been to the east

Your rebuttals unlike fulanimafia have mostly been emotive and devoid of measured inputs of facts. Let me posit the simple question to you as someone earlier challenged you to,

On what basis, aspects, indices (facts and figures) and metrics are the North "far better" than the SE? provide your facts through any researched contents available. It's within your prerogative to call the NBS stats fake etc, but lots of credible information from international bureaus done on Nigerias sustainability index, poverty stats etc have always highlighted how poorly the Northern states in all its geopolitical zones have fared compared to the SE. What other facts do you want to have?

Arrewa:
Abeg spare is that!

Who are the people concocting this fake stats??

In reality the north is in every aspect more better than the south east.

Stop deceiving each with all these fake stats.

The north is today is far better than south east you can only deceive those that haven't been to the east

Most are ignorant, untravelled, and helplessly reliant on statistics they don't even understand.

Tragic.

fulanimafia:


Most are ignorant, untravelled, and reliant on statistics they don't even understand.

Tragic.

List the areas where the North is better than the SE... lets stop all the cul-de-sacs and get down to the basics.

fulanimafia:


Most are ignorant, untravelled, and helplessly reliant on statistics they don't even understand.

Tragic.

keep living in denial. It's easier to bury one's head in sand like d proverbial ostrich than to face realities.

Bobonnukwu:

Your rebuttals unlike fulanimafia have mostly been emotive and devoid of measured inputs of facts. Let me posit the simple question to you as someone earlier challenged you to,

On what basis, aspects, indices (facts and figures) and metrics are the North "far better" than the SE? provide your facts through any researched contents available. It's within your prerogative to call the NBS stats fake etc, but lots of credible information from international bureaus done on Nigerias sustainability index, poverty stats etc have always highlighted how poorly the Northern states in all its geopolitical zones have fared compared to the SE. What other facts do you want to have?

I refused to follow any southern propaganda!

I believe in observation!

I have traveled when to the south east and I can feel the presence of poverty and backwardness.

The plight of the millions of poor people in the south is hidden in the perception and the belief that poverty is a northern problem.

theenchanter:
keep living in denial. It's easier to bury one's head in sand like d proverbial ostrich than to face realities.

you people are ones living in denial...

You people are living in propaganda!

Give us more 5yrs with the way our are people embracing education.

Una eyes go soon clear