allthingsgood:
Can u even pay for the 24/7 light.

When we are already paying for darkness and fuel our generator monthly

Faithful007:
we only need gas plants bro.

For gas plant to be effective we need kilometres upon kilometres of gas pipeline stretching the length and breadth of Nigeria to evacuate gas from NigerDelta to far away North where gas plants would also be needed.. and gas requirement of power plants and cost implications on price of electricity per kilowatt might be high on average consumers if government doesn't subsidise it

Kaduna1stson:
Incompetent leadership, we chose a man who has never had light as he trained his cows for the past 30 years as president. Failures begets more failures.

God bless Umaru Yar'Adua

Hmm... I didnt know Nigerian had 24 hours of electricity before 2015, only for this useless herder president to come and reverse everything.

Mistakemaker:
What exactly is stopping Nigeria from having 24/7 electricity and making money form it as well as stabilising the economy?

Let's hear people's thoughts

The $16B voted for power that obasnjo/PDP looted

I know people will give answers like

1. Petrol Stations and Generator Sellers

The answer is not that rubbish.

Light is just like telecoms (MTN and Co) it is a business.

It is the lack of revenue that is killing the industry. The industry needs to significant capital investment which can only be justified if they are collecting enough revenues. But only so many people are metered and only so many people pay bills. The CBN has been footing almost 30% of the light bill in Nigeria, but politicians wont let you know.

If people were paying MTN bill the way they pay NEPA bill, will MTN have survived?

That's the short answer.

allthingsgood:
Can u even pay for the 24/7 light.

but it's better then using generator imagine foul of a day is 700 for six hour how much will it take for u go 24 / 7

dukeprince50:
if there is power, industries will grow.
if industries grow, more industries will spring up.
if more industries spring up, there will be job.
if there is job, there will be money.
if there is money, we can pay for power

And if all these are Available , the politicians wont be able to use people as thugs....

onegig:
It is simple.

People want to pay an Uber Ride the tfare of a Danfo bus while enjoying the comfort and AC of the Uber.
You might be able to get that with massive subsidies or someone offsetting the costs. Without such subsidies, who services the Uber? Fixes the AC and fuel the car? That nice ride would soon turn to 0a danfo.

Electricity is expensive and until the sector is completely liberalised to the point where the coys can get guarantees on their investments and Nigerians willing to pay for such Utility services we won't have stable electricity. You can keep whining yourself and let another scammer come promise you free electricity. The realities is far from such utopia.

Jesus Christ,such intelligient post. I'm following you now.

Kaduna1stson:


We don't have it yet, that's why we hadn't have a mistaken hit.

So when you hear nuclear power, the next thing that comes to your mind is nuclear bomb. What has nuclear energy got to do with nuclear bomb?

1. Low expectations...

The state of any society is the aggregate of the expectations of the people comprising it.

In 2015, the Ghana Electric company started load shedding. This resulted in approximately 12 hours of electricity, daily.

O boy, come see nationwide protests.

Every single person spoke out against it, so they had to resolve it quickly.

Here in Nigeria, we tolerate too much nonsense.


2. We should also be willing to pay more for electricity.

IF GHANA AND BENIN CAN AFFORD TO PAY, WHY CAN'T WE PAY IN NIGERIA, AFTERAL NIGERIAN IS THE ONE THAT SUPPLY THEM WITH CURRENT.IS JUST BAD LEADERSHIP IN NIGERIA AND SOME SABOTUA IN THE GOVERNMENT.

kikero:


Most African countries don't have stable power

Either they supply a few parts of their countries or they do as Nigeria does..try to please everyone. (Cameroon powers some parts of the country and leaves everywhere dark)

Matters are made worse by the fact that we are not ready to pay for electricity ourselves.

Below are maps from 2018 and 2012 showing the power situation in Africa

As at 2018 we even do better than many African countries, especially the dR Congo, which I mention because it has Africa's largest potential hydroelectric power sector, that was partially built

You left South Africa. Is South Africa not an African country?

You said things are worse because we are not ready to pay electricity? That's ridiculous. Provide the prepaid meters.

allthingsgood:
Can u even pay for the 24/7 light.

very very good question.

a bit complex but here's my laymans understanding of the issues and solutions to them.

1. We don't generate enough megawatts. Nigeria considering the size of population and manufacturing capability would probably need between 30000-50000 MW to guarantee 24/7 electricity. not sure if the combined power generation stations can produce up to 20000 MW.

solution would be to build more power stations which will take time and money. some are already being built in mambilla, taraba. we also need more investment in alternate sources of power like solar wind and water.

2. our transmission and distribution network is poor and decrepit. system needs modernizing so that the little we generate can be effectively distributed. The recently announced siemens deal should hopefully help in that regard. currently we only enjoy 3000-4000 of the 7000 MW generated. when siemens God willing is done with the first phase that should double the transmission and distribution capacity.

3. Government needs to help the power industry through proper regulation establish itself as a proper business enterprise the way GSM did in the early 2000s. this will enable foreign investment and expertise to come in. currently the industry is not conducive for investors to put their money in because they are not sure of making their money back. the increase in electricity tariff was supposed to address that but sadly poor nigerians will be unable to pay due to estimated billing and lack of meters.

hopefully a combination of the siemens deal and scaled up metering should help nigeria get some appreciable amount of power which would reduce reliance on petrol and deisel powered generators.

4. Gas supply is another important issue that should be resolved. good there are some gas pipeline projects coming up which will supply our power stations adequate gas.

Mistakemaker:
What exactly is stopping Nigeria from having 24/7 electricity and making money form it as well as stabilising the economy?

Let's hear people's thoughts

allthingsgood:
Can u even pay for the 24/7 light.

People can be very stupîd sha...
How can Nigeria progress with many stupîd people at large?

Who asked you about affording or paying now?

Is that the reason why Nigeria can't have 24/7 light?

Lipscomb:
Here in the estate since last year we have been having 24/7 light. But the billing is much

Do you guys use prepaid meters?
And where is that estate located?

Mistakemaker:

Then what do the fg stand to gain by keeping it in the exclusive list and suffering the people.. To me states should be allowed to generate power and supply their states, you will find out some states will have stable electricity

During his ministerial screening,fashola made it clear that the Constitution allowstue state government to generate, transmit and distribute electricity.

dukeprince50:
deceive urself o.
we have $6b to invest in eko Atlantic that Nigerians can't afford, billions of naira to maintain refineries that's useless, billions of naira to give to politicians as allowance but no money for electricity

1. The $6bn Eko Atlantic is a business that can bring in billions in returns for its investors, but you referring to it as a useless venture?

2. Despite how expensive it may be, there are countless Nigerians who can actually afford it. Once again, it's a business venture by its delelopers, not a charity for the poor.

3. Eko Atlantic was developed as an environmental project to shore up the banks of the atlantic to prevent the ocean from swallowing up the entire V.I.

4. Eko Atlantic is financed mainly by private pockets. So the development cannot be an excuse for govt not providing electricity to Nigeria.

Kaduna1stson:
Incompetent leadership, we chose a man who has never had light as he trained his cows for the past 30 years as president. Failures begets more failures.

God bless Umaru Yar'Adua

What did Yar’adua achieve for God to bless him

UDUJ:


I get 24 hours supply in my area. No joke.

In this same Nigeria wey we dey

Umm i guess because the turbines @ kainji dam ain't functioning at capacity.. This traces back to bad leadership.

Faithful007:
Nigeria's power issue is multi faceted. Actually we should be generating more than we do now, like about 15000mw from available capacity. But there are three problems. Firstly there are gas shortages due to poor gas network. Then the hydro plants experience low head or something like that. Thirdly, our transmission network needs overhaul. Also gas is still expensive due to high production cost rising from insecurity and lack of indigenous companies, from there consumers don't pay back (owing arrears) so the discos owe the gencos, about 500 billion ngn currently. So the gencos find it more difficult to purchase gas. The first step to sufficient power is to rebuild the the entire gas network, from there we can now have modular plants that will not need a centralized transmission system. But before that, gas production costs in Nigeria need to come down so that investors can be attracted to rebuild our gas network. These are the major issues.

Very well put. I don't see the reason why the sector can't be like the telecoms. I feel other alternatives to gas can be pursued.

Coal is wasting in Enugu. More dams can be constructed across the country. These are alternatives to gas. All these will generate more direct/indirect employment opportunities

We ourselves are the architect of consistent power failure in Nigeria

Barbsamiin:

Do you like nuclear plant to be sited near your village?

If it enables it to grow then yes.

Kaduna1stson:


Very true, Aso rock estate

In my estate also we have 24/7 electricity, but it's damn expensive but worth it.

allthingsgood:
Can u even pay for the 24/7 light.

This should not be the question. Not every body in countries with stable electricity can afford it either. If power is constant in Nigeria, and every one has prepaid meter, then we pay what we can afford and manage it to suit us. The reason people don't pay is because they don't get to see the electricity . not to talk of the assumed bill

jmoore:


You left South Africa. Is South Africa not an African country?

You said things are worse because we are not ready to pay electricity? That's ridiculous. Provide the prepaid meters.

In South Africa

1. People don't bypass their meters, nor do they refuse to pay their bills

2. Bills are subsidized yes, but they have income from agriculture, mining , and a massive industrial and business sector and a tax to GDP ratio of 23% compared to Nigeria's six percent to pay for it

3. Even then Eskom, that's the Azanian equivalent of NEPA or our discos, has been rasing bills for power

4. SA also generates more power than Nigeria. 45 000 mw, part of which comes from nuclear power ( a by product of their nuclear weapons program under arphateid)

Here in Nigeria we have none of that, we refuse to pay our bills , we bypass our meters and we don't pay sufficient tax , and our agro and industrial sector is not producing enough income to pay for subsides. Oil revenue had been falling since 2014 . And corruption is there

And you want us to be like SA?

Good electricity costs money..we no have moneye

onegig:
It is simple.

People want to pay an Uber Ride the tfare of a Danfo bus while enjoying the comfort and AC of the Uber.
You might be able to get that with massive subsidies or someone offsetting the costs. Without such subsidies, who services the Uber? Fixes the AC and fuel the car? That nice ride would soon turn to 0a danfo.

Electricity is expensive and until the sector is completely liberalised to the point where the coys can get guarantees on their investments and Nigerians willing to pay for such Utility services we won't have stable electricity. You can keep whining yourself and let another scammer come promise you free electricity. The realities is far from such utopia.

The topic has nothing to do with free electricity.

You talk about subsidies. Do you live in Nigeria? Many Nigerians are maintaining companies they have no shares in. They contribute money to fix new poles, fix transformers or buy new ones. And you say these Nigerians are not ready to pay.


Nigerians can pay for 24/7 power supply. Make prepaid metres available.

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Mistakemaker:
What exactly is stopping Nigeria from having 24/7 electricity and making money form it as well as stabilising the economy?

Let's hear people's thoughts

Can we hear from Fashola and Barawo Bubu?


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ozoigbondu:
I’ll ensure stable power supply – Buhari
http://www.punchng.com/news/ill-ensure-stable-power-supply-buhari/

http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/02/02/well-generate-20000mw-of-electricity-in-4-years-says-buhari/

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chloride6:
I know people will give answers like

1. Petrol Stations and Generator Sellers

The answer is not that rubbish.

Light is just like telecoms (MTN and Co) it is a business.

It is the lack of revenue that is killing the industry. The industry needs to significant capital investment which can only be justified if they are collecting enough revenues. But only so many people are metered and only so many people pay bills. The CBN has been footing almost 30% of the light bill in Nigeria, but politicians wont let you know.

If people were paying MTN bill the way they pay NEPA bill, will MTN have survived?

That's the short answer.

Then the govt needs to decentralized the whole thing and put it firmly into the hands of individuals.

chloride6:
I know people will give answers like

1. Petrol Stations and Generator Sellers

The answer is not that rubbish.

Light is just like telecoms (MTN and Co) it is a business.

It is the lack of revenue that is killing the industry. The industry needs to significant capital investment which can only be justified if they are collecting enough revenues. But only so many people are metered and only so many people pay bills. The CBN has been footing almost 30% of the light bill in Nigeria, but politicians wont let you know.

If people were paying MTN bill the way they pay NEPA bill, will MTN have survived?

That's the short answer.

Gbam.

This is the answer.

In fact there is a report by price Waterhouse Coopers on the power sector that points out that the thing is running at a loss.

The revenue thing is even why privatisation happened in the first instance

But some people don't want to accept the truth