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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Vanmanzik2551(m): 4:38pm On Sep 06, 2020
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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by RealEzee(m): 4:39pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:


In South Africa

1. People don't bypass their meters, nor do they refuse to pay their bills

2. Bills are subsidized yes, but they have income from agriculture, mining , and a massive industrial and business sector and a tax to GDP ratio of 23% compared to Nigeria's six percent to pay for it

3. Even then Eskom, that's the Azanian equivalent of NEPA or our discos, has been rasing bills for power

4. SA also generates more power than Nigeria. 45 000 mw, part of which comes from nuclear power ( a by product of their nuclear weapons program under arphateid)

Here in Nigeria we have none of that, we refuse to pay our bills , we bypass our meters and we don't pay sufficient tax , and our agro and industrial sector is not producing enough income to pay for subsides. Oil revenue had been falling since 2014 . And corruption is there

And you want us to be like SA?

Good electricity costs money..we no have moneye
these are not reasons enough bud, first people in SA are already seeing the light that they're paying for, not here abi d bills u pay corresponds with what you hoped for? Did u pay for 4hrs light daily in Naija?
Citizens have lost trust in the sector, my side we even have timetable sef, 3 days on one day off, yet its not up 24hrs kwa but now Bill don go up ooo we go still pay, what's their reason for the increasement? Nothing at all.

Provide an enabling environment for the citizens and watch them grow independently, our siblings who travel to the west are enjoying basic amenities and paying jejeli cos it's worth it, we would do same here too if it's worth it, people have paid for meters for years n yet to receive, the sector keep on extorting people.

Miaplaced priorities by the government, quick to pass bills that negatively affect the citizens at large than General good.

We have no excuse why we should be having 24/7 power, the resources are there.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Nobody: 4:39pm On Sep 06, 2020
kgr8mike:
Only if we bane generator importation & usage in Nigeria as that senator suggested. Only then can we have 24/7 power here.

Banning generator won't solve the problem

Even if we had light 24/7, in times of natural disasters, a generator works to provide power while the power supply is being fixed

Generators can also be used in remote areas where powe cannot reach

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by RPirez: 4:39pm On Sep 06, 2020
allthingsgood:


Power is a complex industry. It's not enough to just generate.

Your mentality and thought process is a result of a lifetime oppression by your leaders and the mediocre culture of your society. angry

You believe Nigeria can't easily generate stable power giving some stupid reasons they've imbibed in you. angry

You wonder why >90% of Nigerians are considered to have mental problems? Not far fetched.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by banio: 4:40pm On Sep 06, 2020
Mistakemaker:
What exactly is stopping Nigeria from having 24/7 electricity and making money form it as well as stabilising the economy?

Let's hear people's thoughts

Nothing is stopping us except greed, evil and wickedness. Nigeria leaders sell power to neighbouring countries and embezzle the money. That's why we don't have power.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by omhor(f): 4:41pm On Sep 06, 2020
My dear its corruption. Corruption has eaten deep into every system. People value good things but can't bring it to Nigeria because if they do the corrupt smelllows will hijack and dismantle it.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Nobody: 4:43pm On Sep 06, 2020
Well if you know you know, that guy doesn't know ni fah
dukeprince50:
deceive urself o.
we have $6b to invest in eko Atlantic that Nigerians can't afford, billions of naira to maintain refineries that's useless, billions of naira to give to politicians as allowance but no money for electricity
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by chumome(m): 4:44pm On Sep 06, 2020
Kaduna1stson:
Incompetent leadership, we chose a man who has never had light as he trained his cows for the past 30 years as president. Failures begets more failures.

God bless Umaru Yar'Adua
Even as our Economy is in a mess presently, we can't criticize just this Govt. Right from 2000 till now nothing significant has happened in the sector.
The sector itself is a scam jare
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by gevans(m): 4:44pm On Sep 06, 2020
The list is inexhaustible, however, it can be summerized to be followership
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Adiwana: 4:45pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:


And who controls the revenue and the generation bit

Private companies the discos and gencos

TCn is dependent on the revenue they raise

Besides we need 100 BN dollars to fix our transmission. Our budget for this year isn't up to 30 billion dollars


All am saying is we need to break down that sector as much as possible and as such individuals should be running the show.

I don't see the reason why states who have gas/hydro shouldn't be able to sustain themselves and have to put a chunk of whatever they generate into the national grid.

If individual states are able to generate their own electricity and are able transmit within,these takes a lot off whatever weight is being put into the national transmission lines. It's not rocket science

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Nobody: 4:45pm On Sep 06, 2020
Kaduna1stson:
Incompetent leadership, we chose a man who has never had light as he trained his cows for the past 30 years as president. Failures begets more failures.

God bless Umaru Yar'Adua

No, no, no, no capital NO! Answer is DOCILE POPULACE, Everyone is comfortable with the lack of electricity. The day Nigerians say No, there will be 24hrs electricity.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by taurusdude0(m): 4:45pm On Sep 06, 2020
dukeprince50:
not just PMB but all our past leaders are useless, infact PMB administration brought up the idea of nuclear energy but we kicked against it cos we are scared it will be mismanaged and cause a disaster but we forget nuclear energy is the neatest and most environmental friendly

Yeah its neat and (friendly) until one idiot falls to pay bill and things begin to go bad then BOOM we have a nuclear disaster on our hands and Nigeria being Nigeria won't have measures to help matters. Well tell us ur state so they site the reactors near you
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by banio: 4:45pm On Sep 06, 2020
Mistakemaker:

Then what do the fg stand to gain by keeping it in the exclusive list and suffering the people.. To me states should be allowed to generate power and supply their states, you will find out some states will have stable electricity

You are right. If States generate and supply, this epileptic power will disappear. But, the Federal Government Cabal sells the power to neighbouring countries. So all power goes to National Grid.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by jmoore(m): 4:45pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:


Look, I blame the government too, many government agencies don't pay for power

But power has been in private hands since 2013.

And the problem is up till recently it cost 53 naira to produce one kWh of electricity. And we were paying 30 naira or less for that kWh

Add the fact that in some areas 40-50% of people were not paying their bills.

And before you about meter , people bypass their meters. And threaten disco workers who catch them.

Power is being run as a business. And we Nigerians are not paying enough for service. In fact government has has to bail out powe sector with 1 trillion naira yearly, and it is estimated they need one trillion naira more

You can call me a Buhari supporter. I am not. I don't even support PDP or APC. But one thing I know. If you were running a business and 50 percent of your customers did not pay for the things they buy from you you would be broke in months.

Let's get real.

If you want us to get real, you haven't scratched the surface.

50% is an exaggeration. I know some people bypass metres but 50% ? No way!!

Nigerians are actually the ones losing.

Do you know how many Nigerians are paying more than they should? Someone that doesn't have light for 3 weeks and 2 days, then you bring a bill of 10,000 naira for 5 days of epileptic power supply.

Most Nigerians are actually doing the jobs of these power companies by providing new poles and new transformers, repairs included.

5,000 megawatts that should be shared for 5 million people.
But you share it to 150 million + Nigerians, billing all of them.

This is the reality!!

The power companies are obviously the highest cheaters.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Mistakemaker: 4:46pm On Sep 06, 2020
Kobicove:


The main issue is that government has refused to completely deregulate the power sector by allowing them charge cost reflective tarrifs
But neighboring countries Nigeria sell electricity to have constant power

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Nobody: 4:46pm On Sep 06, 2020
RealEzee:

these are not reasons enough bud, first people in SA are already seeing the light that they're paying for, not here abi d bills u pay corresponds with what you hoped for? Did u pay for 4hrs light daily in Naija?
Citizens have lost trust in the sector, my side we even have timetable sef, 3 days on one day off, yet its not up 24hrs kwa but now Bill don go up ooo we go still pay, what's their reason for the increasement? Nothing at all.

Provide an enabling environment for the citizens and watch them grow independently, our siblings who travel to the west are enjoying basic amenities and paying jejeli cos it's worth it, we would do same here too if it's worth it, people have paid for meters for years n yet to receive, the sector keep on extorting people.

Miaplaced priorities by the government, quick to pass bills that negatively affect the citizens at large than General good.

We have no excuse why we should be having 24/7 power, the resources are there.

What resources?

When many people are not paying their bills?

When our major income streams are falling drastically? Especially oil.?

When people bypass their meters

And stop this nonsense about not paying for power because we don't see it

Back when GSM came into this country, service was poor, you could not even call another network for over 2 years , and missed calls were common

Yet we kept on paying high prices for that, and the companies took our money and made things much better. And built a multibillion business and a telecom network that required no government money or intervention

We have a power sector that needs money. Yet we refuse to pay our bills, we demand low prices and we bypass meters when installed

At the end of the day, the power sector cannot attract investment and cannot take loans to build things...unlike MTN, airtel and Glo that even had loans lined up before they started business self and 9 mobile.

As a result we don't have light.

Again, you cannot run a successful business if half your customers don't pay

This problem has been ongoing since long before Buhari took office in 1984. Since the 1970s infact.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by RealEzee(m): 4:46pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:


If you were running a business, and 50 percent of your customers were not paying you, won't you be broke?

Power has been privatised since 2013..we ain't paying enough for it.

Sorry, but I am not supporting mediocrity. You on the other hand want to buy a Limousine with the money you would use to buy a motorcycle

I know many Nigerians are poor. But sadly power is expensive. We are not a rich country and the stealing happening every day makes it worse, and Lord knows I hate it.
I'll ask myself if I'm proving the services to their satisfaction first bud.
We are not in a sphere 24/7 power is given then try to Condemn citizens for low patronage, are they paying for 4 hours power? Absolutely not bud

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by lomprico(m): 4:46pm On Sep 06, 2020
Mistakemaker:
What exactly is stopping Nigeria from having 24/7 electricity and making money form it as well as stabilising the economy?

Let's hear people's thoughts

a failed system!

our foundation as a country has been faulty from the onset.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by guru90: 4:46pm On Sep 06, 2020
dukeprince50:
if there is power, industries will grow.
if industries grow, more industries will spring up.
if more industries spring up, there will be job.
if there is job, there will be money.
if there is money, we can pay for power grin


beta explanation. .....


You nailed it brother.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Nobody: 4:47pm On Sep 06, 2020
RealEzee:
I'll ask myself if I'm proving the services to their satisfaction first bud.
We are not in a sphere 24/7 power is given then try to Condemn citizens for low patronage, are they paying for 4 hours power? Absolutely not bud

You want awoof.

Sorry, but it does not work that way.

Good evening
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by ikorodureporta: 4:47pm On Sep 06, 2020
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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Mistakemaker: 4:48pm On Sep 06, 2020
chrisooblog:
a bit complex but here's my laymans understanding of the issues and solutions to them.

1. We don't generate enough megawatts. Nigeria considering the size of population and manufacturing capability would probably need between 30000-50000 MW to guarantee 24/7 electricity. not sure if the combined power generation stations can produce up to 20000 MW.

solution would be to build more power stations which will take time and money. some are already being built in mambilla, taraba. we also need more investment in alternate sources of power like solar wind and water.

2. our transmission and distribution network is poor and decrepit. system needs modernizing so that the little we generate can be effectively distributed. The recently announced siemens deal should hopefully help in that regard. currently we only enjoy 3000-4000 of the 7000 MW generated. when siemens God willing is done with the first phase that should double the transmission and distribution capacity.

3. Government needs to help the power industry through proper regulation establish itself as a proper business enterprise the way GSM did in the early 2000s. this will enable foreign investment and expertise to come in. currently the industry is not conducive for investors to put their money in because they are not sure of making their money back. the increase in electricity tariff was supposed to address that but sadly poor nigerians will be unable to pay due to estimated billing and lack of meters.

hopefully a combination of the siemens deal and scaled up metering should help nigeria get some appreciable amount of power which would reduce reliance on petrol and deisel powered generators.

4. Gas supply is another important issue that should be resolved. good there are some gas pipeline projects coming up which will supply our power stations adequate gas.

Nice one

But neighboring countries Nigeria sell electricity to have constant power

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by guru90: 4:48pm On Sep 06, 2020
Igbochief001:
We don't have the money to invest into power
who told u, 9ja no gat money. Seems like u are not from 9ja.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by ZombieTERROR: 4:49pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:


Most African countries don't have stable power

Either they supply a few parts of their countries or they do as Nigeria does..try to please everyone. (Cameroon powers some parts of the country and leaves everywhere dark)

Matters are made worse by the fact that we are not ready to pay for electricity ourselves.

Below are maps from 2018 and 2012 showing the power situation in Africa

As at 2018 we even do better than many African countries, especially the dR Congo, which I mention because it has Africa's largest potential hydroelectric power sector, that was partially built

As expected... Buhari zombies are wired to suffer till all eternity...
They will tell us that south Africa that got their independent yesterday are worse off than Nigeria just to make the failure look good.. Infact having stable power is impossible

Pathetic...

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Nobody: 4:49pm On Sep 06, 2020
jmoore:


If you want us to get real, you haven't scratched the surface.

50% is an exaggeration. I know some people bypass metres but 50% ? No way!!

Nigerians are actually the ones losing.

Do you know how many Nigerians are paying more than they should? Someone that doesn't have light for 3 weeks and 2 days, then you bring a bill of 10,000 naira for 5 days of epileptic power supply.

Most Nigerians are actually doing the jobs of these power companies by providing new poles and new transformers, repairs included.

5,000 megawatts that should be shared for 5 million people.
But you share it to 150 million + Nigerians, billing all of them.

This is the reality!!

The power companies are obviously the highest cheaters.

Behind your big language, you want power to be supplied cheap.

With no thought for the cost of production

We are not a rich country. The corruption makes it worse.

I'll advise you to Google for the price Waterhouse Coopers report on Nigeria's power sector. Read it. It makes for some interesting facts.

Good evening.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by emmy512: 4:49pm On Sep 06, 2020
dukeprince50:
if there is power, industries will grow.
if industries grow, more industries will spring up.
if more industries spring up, there will be job.
if there is job, there will be money.
if there is money, we can pay for power grin
Power to the people
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by euniselfyahoo: 4:50pm On Sep 06, 2020
The leaders are benefiting from generators manifacturers
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by xest(m): 4:50pm On Sep 06, 2020
Wickedness in high places

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Chasegb(m): 4:53pm On Sep 06, 2020
Because we sell power at a cost less than what we produce it, complicated by the fact that as much as 40-50% of people don't pay their bills, and even when there is meter, some bypass the meter....that means that the power sector does not have enough money to make the needed improvements

In fact the power sector is in a one trillion naira hole financially . All the discos and gencos are running at a loss.

Modified

Going through the thread I see that people are ready to blame everyone, Buhari and GEJ inclusive for the power problem.

The reason why we don't have light is because in Nigeria we think we can get a Ferrari for the price of a bicycle.

Yesterday I told someone the actual cost of power in this country as related by ex CBN bigwig Moghalu, and he accused me of lying.

We know power costs a lot of money, but accepting that truth, that in order to have stable power we need to pay as much as 60 naira per kWh is too painful

So we blame the Hausas, Buhari, the IMF, GEJ, the discos, the gencos, the executive list , etc etc.

Meanwhile most of us refuse to pay our bills, chase electricity workers with cutlasses , bypass meters, and cheat on our bills and we expect light 24/7

I think Nigerians tend to live in sugar candy land too much




I think the fundamental problem is "TRUST" we don't trust them to do the right thing even when we pay the #60 per KWh.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Mistakemaker: 4:54pm On Sep 06, 2020
SoftBillionaire:


Moral Capital
But neighboring countries Nigeria sell electricity to have constant power
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by RealEzee(m): 4:54pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:


You want awoof.

Sorry, but it does not work that way.

Good evening
u don't have point to talk you are talking Awoof, e no make sense at all.

U r not providing a service to people's satisfaction and you're saying they're not paying for ur service, is that how business is run ni?

Provide better service then you can have the moral ground to Condemn your customers for failing to pay up not the other way round.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by jmoore(m): 4:54pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:


Behind your big language, you want power to be supplied cheap.

With no thought for the cost of production

We are not a rich country. The corruption makes it worse.

I'll advise you to Google for the price Waterhouse Coopers report on Nigeria's power sector. Read it. It makes for some interesting facts.

Good evening.

Who is talking about cheap power?
Is the topic about cheap power?

The topic is about 24/7 power supply.

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