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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Herkim(m): 6:18pm On Sep 06, 2020
Kaduna1stson:
Incompetent leadership, we chose a man who has never had light as he trained his cows for the past 30 years as president. Failures begets more failures.

God bless Umaru Yar'Adua

The problem of electricity in Nigeria is been there since the creation of this country. One needs to look at it holistically not to be sentimental about it

We were in this country when past government spent 16billion dollars on electricity without any meaningful achievement.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by kgr28(m): 6:19pm On Sep 06, 2020
I come in peace. Nigerians always glorify accomplishments, smartness and hard work of their compatriots in other white man's countries. So basically they are making these countries more better and successfull. Where are the start ups and innovations by your private economic agents in nigeria. Where are your independent power producers. For God sake you always claim how smart you are. You can't tell me, you have 60 years independence and smart people like you can't make nigeria the greatest and advanced black nation. It's a shame.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by favor914: 6:19pm On Sep 06, 2020
morikee:
3days counting light no blink since they increased the tariff Kaduna Electric i dey hail o so u fit give 24hr Electricity and you dey do us 20hr, 18hr before.
Welcome to Nigeria, only competition will save the day, if not you could be getting 24 electricity this month, & 04 electricity the next month.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by favor914: 6:20pm On Sep 06, 2020
Herkim:


The problem of electricity in Nigeria is been there since the creation of this country. One needs to look at it holistically not to be sentimental about it

We were in this country when past government spent 16billion dollars on electricity without any meaningful achievement.
I like that, $16 billion evaporated like peak milk in my bowl of cereal?

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by favor914: 6:24pm On Sep 06, 2020
kgr28:
I come in peace. Nigerians always glorify accomplishments, smartness and hard work of their compatriots in other white man's countries. So basically they are making these countries more better and successfull. Where are the start ups and innovations by your private economic agents in nigeria. Where are your independent power producers. For God sake you always claim how smart you are. You can't tell me, you have 60 years independence and smart people like you can't make nigeria the greatest and advanced black nation. It's a shame.
Let us blame it on the Ghanaians, since it is no one’s fault, how it got these bad before our very eyes only Jehovah knows?.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Firespitter: 6:26pm On Sep 06, 2020
ZombieTERROR:


Buhari supporters are wired to suffer for all eternity...

Small countries in Africa have steady power... Wake up this is 2020...

Edit the jargon you wrote up there... Just type sai barber and move on... Zombies everywhere

Lol.. I like your last advice to him.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by favor914: 6:28pm On Sep 06, 2020
Mistakemaker:

You're right.. I think is political will to do the right things
Then protest next, we no go gree, I believe NLC & TUC are still working out modalities for a general strike after the recent increase in Petrol & electricity tariffs?

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by omonaija1234: 6:32pm On Sep 06, 2020
If china can provide power to millions of citizens, then Nigeria has no excuse. China has proven all corrupt countries wrong when they say they are overpopulated.

China has built a solution for every situation and you can't even give an excuse of population when your incompetency starts to showcase its self.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by ehinmowo: 6:32pm On Sep 06, 2020
allthingsgood:


True but that's a long term goal. As at today tho, can u pay for 24/7 electricity


We are currently paying for what we are not using and you there saying we can't pay for 24hrs light?

This is probably what the advisers are telling government. The same way David Mark said cell phone was not for the poor.

If you are saying people cannot pay for light, what is the use of the card then? Have you hsve 24hrs light for 2 years and you don't see the ripple effect?

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Darestc2k12: 6:32pm On Sep 06, 2020
solmusdesigns:
cool




To effectively power a country the size of Nigeria, Nigeria need Nuclear Power plants or Coal power plant

Hydro dams and hydrothermal gas plant are simply waste of time

Unfortunately United Nations Nuclear Energy Agency won't allow Nigeria build a Nuclear power plant because they know the waste from a Nuclear Fuel is what is used for fussion Nuclear bombs and they can't allow Africans such powerful weapon... This is why the whites apartheid regime of South Africa dismantled it's nuclear plants when handing over to blacks


Coal plants on the other hand which still powers world developed countries like China US even South Africa, are now been barred by UN due to its CO2 emmision

The Solution in my own opinion is to take the Russian loan deal for them to build and manage Nuclear stations for us, one in Kogi State the other one at Cross River, while we pay them back for 30 years, because the Americans and Westerners would never agree to build such for us, any attempt to build it on our own sanctions would keep flying left and right like it's happening in IRAN

Other option is to adopt the Professor Berth Nnaji approach .. by calling in Chinese investors to build coal plants at Enugu and other coal producing states , we sell them Coal they give us power and we pay them for kilowatt they supply to national grid


.

Good ideas

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Sunnyja: 6:35pm On Sep 06, 2020
dukeprince50:
not just PMB but all our past leaders are useless, infact PMB administration brought up the idea of nuclear energy but we kicked against it cos we are scared it will be mismanaged and cause a disaster but we forget nuclear energy is the neatest and most environmental friendly
You think nuclear energy stations are like Kanji dams and NDDC boards where a minister will embezzle funds meant for maintenance only to faint when it's time for accountability.
You think failure to maintain nuclear power stations can be explained by saying "PDP also embezzle funds during their time".
You have to be a serious nation in other to contemplate nuclear energy power.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Darestc2k12: 6:35pm On Sep 06, 2020
UDUJ:


I think we are almost there. For the past 4 weeks I have been having 24 hours uninterrupted electricity supply.

The only problem is the exorbitant hike in electricity tariff fees just introduced. Before now I get about 480 units for a 10,000 naira recharge. After the tariff hike I get just 189 units undecided


My brother the high cost is not the issue is the service, Shay no u see what you pay for even it is costly. That's how MTN service was costly back in 2001

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by mexbee1(m): 6:36pm On Sep 06, 2020
Mistakemaker:
What exactly is stopping Nigeria from having 24/7 electricity and making money form it as well as stabilising the economy?

Let's hear people's thoughts


The simple answer is just the Will to do it aint there. we have the best plans to make us have 24/7 electricity buh we only discuss sustainable development plans whenever its election time. only to claim to revisit the plan when it's anoda election time.

Which way Nigeria

Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by ehinmowo: 6:37pm On Sep 06, 2020
irepnaija4eva:



Gbam.. This what I have been hammering for a long time.. The states should handle power generation within there jurisdiction.

Such condition will bring about a substantial level of employment, and a huge internal revenue generation for the state, then maybe 10% of the profit should be attributed to the federal government....

Life Ana agaga..

The reason is simple. The more responsibility the states have the more power they will have. The more their economy grows. The weaker the centre.

The fear of the center is to avoid being weak. She doesn't care if the country remains impoverished as long as the states are not having substantial power and monopoly. The typical blackmail mindset.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by ritapearl(f): 6:37pm On Sep 06, 2020
I really want to know!
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Nobody: 6:38pm On Sep 06, 2020
Adiwana:


Bro, you're simply blaming the wrong people

There are two sides of the same coin you're trying to blame. People aren't paying enough,there are bypasses but in the same vein i don't see you talking about estimated bills, ridiculous spending on fuels and diesels to generate that same electricity. Hell, people literally buying their own metres,install poles and do all the maintenance associated with it

On the same hand as someone already mentioned,it's not the job of your customers to provide money for you to start your business. You simply provide the business and they patronize. That is the sole reason why capitalism exists. The people who can afford to provide this electricity should be simply allowed to take charge and then the govt simply acts as a middle man between them and the customers by making favorable policies that balances both sides of the equation

If you raise the money for what we generate,who will now pay that money. If you say we pay #60 for each kw,how will that money be generated when majority of Nigerians are living below that poverty line??. Your argument simply makes no sense tbh

So if you were running a business,and fifty percent of the people that patronise your business dont pay for the goods and services offered, and the remaining insist on paying 50% of the cost price, would your business prosper

By your reasoning, you would agree to such terms because 'Nigerians are poor'

And you'll be broke

It is because 'Nigerians are poor'' that we have poor power supply.

You cannot buy a Ferrari at the price of a bicycle

I'm sorry, but power is a business. And businesses make money. They aren't charities.

Because if they don't make money, how then are we going to improve power.?

Good evening.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Darestc2k12: 6:39pm On Sep 06, 2020
Martartins:
We can talk about corruption all day, but the real problem is the lack of competition the power distribution get.

Capitalism is the only thing that can drive invention in any sector. Look at our communication industry, if it was just MTN, they would have buried us. Compare that to satelite television monopolised by DSTV...... Now you see what we need.

U are right bro. Let the discos and gencos follow the telecom and digital TV sectors. Let there be availability of prepaid meters JUST like Phones and we consult them for installation .
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Mistakemaker: 6:42pm On Sep 06, 2020
rolams:


Am I different from you? grin
Lol but that's what you adviced me to do tongue
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Darestc2k12: 6:45pm On Sep 06, 2020
Faithful007:
Nigeria's power issue is multi faceted. Actually we should be generating more than we do now, like about 15000mw from available capacity. But there are three problems. Firstly there are gas shortages due to poor gas network. Then the hydro plants experience low head or something like that. Thirdly, our transmission network needs overhaul. Also gas is still expensive due to high production cost rising from insecurity and lack of indigenous companies, from there consumers don't pay back (owing arrears) so the discos owe the gencos, about 500 billion ngn currently. So the gencos find it more difficult to purchase gas. The first step to sufficient power is to rebuild the the entire gas network, from there we can now have modular plants that will not need a centralized transmission system. But before that, gas production costs in Nigeria need to come down so that investors can be attracted to rebuild our gas network. These are the major issues.

U try. Good points. We need two ring transmission network in this country
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by bankylan: 6:50pm On Sep 06, 2020
Nigeria does not need 200,000MW......Population is not the main factor, though it is a variable, load demand is what determines the required MW to be dispatched. Today we have installed capacity of 13,000 MW and we can only wheel about 6,000 MW. The implication is that we are making CAPACITY PAYMENTS to Gencos as eshrined in the PPAs we signed with them because we can't make use of their full capacity which to them is huge financial investments tied down. People who don't know about the power industry talk about population as a determinant of the needed megawatt, but power engineers and those who are real professionals in the industry don't think this way. What is our load demand as a nation? We just need like 25,000MW now and we will be okay as we don't really have many heavy duty industries besides the fact that our wheeling and distribution capacity can't even cope with the 6000 MW we hover around now.


meavox:



The Exclusive list & Concurrent list in the imposed 1999 Constitution that is a Forgery.

Read it here: "Electricity Calamity and the Sham 1999 Nigeria Constitution" By Ndidi Uwechue
https://africannewstoday.com/politics/electricity-calamity-and-the-sham-1999-nigeria-constitution/


It is 1000MW for 1 million people

So Nigeria needs 200,000MW

We only have 5000MW so for 5 million people

The article above is clear on this matter.

Dissolution is Nigeria's solution!
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Darestc2k12: 6:51pm On Sep 06, 2020
eenai:
The problem with power availability in Nigeria today is in the Constitution. Amend the Constitution to allow, states, organisation and even individual to generate and distribute power without the national grid fraud and watch the game change in Nigeria. With the current arrangement, we may never solve the power issue in Nigeria.


On point , bro.
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by bankylan: 6:58pm On Sep 06, 2020
You must be a player in the industry. I have always spoken in favour of this as we have in Canada . Decentralise the grid; let each state have their own electricity market, and them there can be inter-state trading where those who have excess can sell to those who need on intra day, or day ahead basis.



SIRTee15:
The biggest problem is this thing called national grid.
Power above a particular MW generated anywhere in this country must be fed into the national grid and then redistributed to different part of the country.
This is a disincentive for private sectors to invest in our energy sector.
Let the power sector be completely decentralised including transmission. Let each state or region have their own independent energy policy if they choose to without Abuja breathing on their neck.
Places like Brass and cannanland in Ota are not connected to national grid and they enjoy uninterrupted power supply. Why can't such be replicated on a larger scale in other parts of the country.
States like Lagos, Rivers and Anambra should be able to attract investors into their power sector because they know they will get good ROI.
The reality now is Nigeria cannot afford 24/7 electricity for everybody. But some regions can push the frontier for regular power supply which will be a catalyst for industrial growth in such areas.
That's what we need now, not necessarily 24 hours power supply for the whole nation.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by earnit3: 7:00pm On Sep 06, 2020
BAD governance
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by erico2k2(m): 7:01pm On Sep 06, 2020
Mistakemaker:
What exactly is stopping Nigeria from having 24/7 electricity and making money form it as well as stabilising the economy?

Let's hear people's thoughts
short sightedness
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by codemaniacs: 7:03pm On Sep 06, 2020
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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by Ablah: 7:03pm On Sep 06, 2020
there will be nothing to campaign for again if we enjoy 24/7power
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by erico2k2(m): 7:04pm On Sep 06, 2020
bankylan:
Nigeria does not need 200,000MW......Population is not the main factor, though it is a variable, load demand is what determines the required MW to be dispatched. Today we have installed capacity of 13,000 MW and we can only wheel about 6,000 MW. The implication is that we are making CAPACITY PAYMENTS to Gencos as eshrined in the PPAs we signed with them because we can't make use of their full capacity which to them is huge financial investments tied down. People who don't know about the power industry talk about population as a determinant of the needed megawatt, but power engineers and those who are real professionals in the industry don't think this way. What is our load demand as a nation? We just need like 25,000MW now and we will be okay as we don't really have many heavy duty industries besides the fact that our wheeling and distribution capacity can't even cope with the 6000 MW we hover around now.


Im busy at the moment so cant dice deep, you are wrong, the west use the numbers of home to determine its energy needs!so the population plays a vital point in determining the required energy needs.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by deenee: 7:07pm On Sep 06, 2020
Question is are people ready to pay for 24/7 electricity?

Nigerians still see electricity as a public service that must be subsidised just as they see fuel.

And until we change this mindset, the required investment needed to guarantee 24/7 light won't be available.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by jmoore(m): 7:09pm On Sep 06, 2020
justifyme:
Even if there’s 24/7 power supply!!! Many people will still be in darkness,simply because they can’t afford it!!! They are giving us 18hrs currently, I spent 200k+ on prepaid last month (Hotel)
You spent 200k? You never thought about Solar?


24 /7 means it should be available when you want to use it.

A rich man on prepaid metre won't be spending the same like a poor man.

The poor can afford smaller units to charge his phone and watch TV
Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by watchindelta(m): 7:14pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:


Because we sell power at a cost less than what we produce it, complicated by the fact that as much as 40-50% of people don't pay their bills, and even when there is meter, some bypass the meter....that means that the power sector does not have enough money to make the needed improvements

In fact the power sector is in a one trillion naira hole financially . All the discos and gencos are running at a loss.

Modified

Going through the thread I see that people are ready to blame everyone, Buhari and GEJ inclusive for the power problem.

The reason why we don't have light is because in Nigeria we think we can get a Ferrari for the price of a bicycle.

Yesterday I told someone the actual cost of power in this country as related by ex CBN bigwig Moghalu, and he accused me of lying.

We know power costs a lot of money, but accepting that truth, that in order to have stable power we need to pay as much as 60 naira per kWh is too painful

So we blame the Hausas, Buhari, the IMF, GEJ, the discos, the gencos, the executive list , etc etc.

Meanwhile most of us refuse to pay our bills, chase electricity workers with cutlasses , bypass meters, and cheat on our bills and we expect light 24/7

I think Nigerians tend to live in sugar candy land too much
you lie Nigerians paid for what they dont use! Even with no light. reverse is the case here.

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Re: What's Exactly Stopping Nigeria From Having 24/7 Electricity? by jmoore(m): 7:14pm On Sep 06, 2020
deenee:
Question is are people ready to pay for 24/7 electricity?

Nigerians still see electricity as a public service that list be subsidised just as they see fuel.

And until we change this mindset, the required investment needed to guarantee 24/7 won't be available.

Nigerians pay for darkness. So why won't they pay for 24/7 power supply?

When Nigerians are still contributing to erect new poles and buy new transformers for a company.
Can you imagine you and your neighbors contributing money to erect an MTN tower?

Nigerians have been cheated on all sides.

It is not mindset. Corruption and bad governance is the problem.

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