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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by achorladey: 11:50am On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:


I don't even need to go to the fraud of 1914 because it's visible to blind.




I wonder how you people will bring an analogy yet fail to reconcile it with your point. That's pure dullness.

The WHEAT didn't FINALLY eliminate by the WEED this is known by any farmer which means even though there are weeds but it still ABOUND WHEAT among them.

So between the 1st century Christians and the time of Russell, there should be many WHEAT that still remain.



So there was not WHEAT before Russell was born.

Then it means the WEED finally eliminated the WHEAT, is that what you read from your own scripture?




How long will it take them for this understanding to be increased?

1. The Bible is already there
2. Holy Spirit as the greatest teacher has already in operation
3. Even adding your lie of Jesus invisibly came to the same people.

So why would they be in this DARKNESS for many years?

What is the essence of Bible, Holy Spirit and Jesus Himself if is still take them years and even died into this wrong teaching?



You've brought the issue of CONDEMNED again later you'll start twisting your lying mouth.

So how do you think Jesus will now COMDEMN anyone?




You didn't!

Russell and his pagan team died believing:

1. Worshipping of Jesus Christ is right
2. Jesus died on the Cross
3. They are herald of Jesus

So of what important did Jesus select them if not to change all these wrong teachings?

But alas, Jesus couldn't correct all these but started later, very pathetic!




But they know where they can find the quote "lost sheep of the house of Israel" in the Bible but couldn't find that Jesus is not to be worshipped.

Many years before Russell was born, Bible is already in plain English which is the very own Russell tongue.

So tell me, how the truth in the Bible in the 1st century to Russell time difference from now that made you know so much than him despite claiming to be inspired by the Holy Spirit?



See another bold twisting of the scripture!

Jesus didn't say, the WEED will overshadow the WHEAT but they'll grow together and ON THE LAST DAY, they'll be separated!

So, it's evident that there will always abound a WHEAT.

So how many WHEAT were there before Russell was born?

27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’ 28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed. “‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked. 29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’” NLT

You can see Jesus Himself isn't the HARVESTERS (plural) because Jesus Himself said "He will send His ANGELS to gather all His followers at the four CORNERS of the world"

This is judgement time!

The more you realize the damage wrong watchtower teaching has done to you the easier for you to loose yourself from the pan of yoke.



And who told you there's no LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst?

Can you provide a video of any gathering of the TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST where they're using chair and table to fight each other?

A statement from my JWs girlfriend "My Aunty died unhappy" why? because of what the organization did to her...

Like I do say, you can keep claiming false love, joy & peace for your organization but the reality is on ground.



So you're claiming before 1914 100% of Christians then we're LOST CHRISTIANS and participated in the WAR, POLITICS AND RACISM?

You're just irredeemable liar!

The intelligence officer even said before 1914 they were not AGAINST Christ in his response to my post. Going back and forth as usual grin grin grin grin grin in essence confirms not every Christians were involved in WAR, RACISM, POLITICS grin grin grin grin.

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 11:56am On Sep 05, 2020
Janosky:
1)
Did you kill everyone who was in Russell's Bible study group?
Who told you every follower of Jesus Christ was alive to grab all his teachings?

1. But do they know Jesus is not to be worshipped?
2. Do the early Christians know Jesus is not to be worshipped?

2)
WAYO man Jesus is Yahweh FRAUD.
John 20:17, Jesus is ascending to meet himself FRAUD man.
Joshua 5:13-15, Jesus is the Angel of his Lord, Yahweh.
Mr LIENUS lacks SENSE, let this word "OF" , reset your brain whenever you here that statement, "Angel OF the Lord,Yahweh".,2Corinthians11:31.
Na Yahweh the angel is working for, Ode.

Mr accolade lying liar JWs.

If you use sceipute to proof Jesus is Angel Michael

1. Was these scriptures not available during the time of Russell?
2. Who inspired that Jesus isn't Michael?

These are the questions that'll continue to expose your fraudulent doctrines.

3) Mr LIENUS no get SENSE.
It will take place in this sequence:
2 Thess1:7-9 , Judgment.
John 5:28-29, Resurrection.
Revelations 5:9,10 , Millennium reign of Christ to correct the resurrected mankind and righteous survivors to perfection.

The deluded JWs here again.

If it's in this order then your fraudulent doctrines are keep exposing the more

7And God will provide rest for you who are being persecuted and also for us when the Lord Jesus appears from heaven. He will come with his mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire, bringing judgment on those who don’t know God and on those who refuse to obey the Good News of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power. NLT

Fact from this scripture:
1. Jesus will come with His mighty Angels, Do this happen in 1914?
2. Bringing judgement on those who don't know God and those who refuse to obey the good news of Lord Jesus, has this been achieved?
3. They will be punish with eternal destruction, when do this happen?

This is an evidence that second coming of Christ is different from the fraud presented by your lying organization.

I know you'll just come and rant again without addressing the main point.
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 12:07pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:


Imagine, see the frustration of a lost soul!

No wonder you're so restless on Nairaland jumping from thread to thread being tormented.

So if you're not forcing it on people, why so much restlessness in your life?

They'll decide because they know who is twisting the scripture.

Very uncouth of you, Mr LIENUS.
You lack SENSE and manners
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Nobody: 12:29pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:

I don't even need to go to the fraud of 1914 because it's visible to blind.
I wonder how you people will bring an analogy yet fail to reconcile it with your point. That's pure dullness.
The WHEAT didn't FINALLY eliminate by the WEED this is known by any farmer which means even though there are weeds but it still ABOUND WHEAT among them.
So between the 1st century Christians and the time of Russell, there should be many WHEAT that still remain.
Whether you believe it or not is none of my own problem but know that it was a Parable and the wheat represents those who are keenly interested in knowing exactly what Jesus taught, during the dark ages they were subjected to fear due to the overwhelming influence of the weeds so they only worship in different religions claiming Abrahamic enlightenment include Islam until 1914!

So there was not WHEAT before Russell was born.
Then it means the WEED finally eliminated the WHEAT, is that what you read from your own scripture?
Of course they existed, Russell and his team were part of them lost in different Abrahamic religions!


How long will it take them for this understanding to be increased?
1. The Bible is already there
2. Holy Spirit as the greatest teacher has already in operation
3. Even adding your lie of Jesus invisibly came to the same people.
So why would they be in this DARKNESS for many years?
The same scriptures which the Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes, John the baptist and other Jewish Rabbis had was what Jesus used in teaching new things about God's Kingdom. He didn't fabricate anything new. So it's possible for Satan to blur the senses of scholars most especially when they're already intimidated from expressing themselves freely. Note that before the time of Russell and his team, anyone who speaks against the teachings of the churches of Christendom will be executed like William Tyndale! smiley

What is the essence of Bible, Holy Spirit and Jesus Himself if is still take them years and even died into this wrong teaching?
You've brought the issue of CONDEMNED again later you'll start twisting your lying mouth.
So how do you think Jesus will now COMDEMN anyone?
It took Jesus more than 3 years to preach, teach and form a group, it took him another 65 years to reveal the remaining information found in the Bible book of Revelations when most of his followers have died, so there is nothing new in his style of teaching! wink
As for condemnation, it's only arrogant people who can never be part of his group, as for sinners (people who agreed that they might be wrong) that's exactly those he came to save! Matthew 9:13

You didn't!
Russell and his pagan team died believing:
1. Worshipping of Jesus Christ is right
2. Jesus died on the Cross
3. They are herald of Jesus
So of what important did Jesus select them if not to change all these wrong teachings?
Whatever anyone believe before they began taking correction from Jesus is bygone!
He chose them because of their willingness to make amendments! wink

But alas, Jesus couldn't correct all these but started later, very pathetic!
But they know where they can find the quote "lost sheep of the house of Israel" in the Bible but couldn't find that Jesus is not to be worshipped.
Many years before Russell was born, Bible is already in plain English which is the very own Russell tongue.
So tell me, how the truth in the Bible in the 1st century to Russell time difference from now that made you know so much than him despite claiming to be inspired by the Holy Spirit?
This is where you err in the understanding of the scriptures, someone may be helped by the spirit but not inspired! It is the fruit of God's holy spirit to be patient with time many things will be revealed, otherwise Jesus wouldn't have told his followers that a spirit will continue to remind them of the things he taught them {John 14:26} so as they continue earnestly digging deep and humbly praying for God's holy spirit, the truth will be revealed with time! Proverbs 2:1-5

See another bold twisting of the scripture!
Jesus didn't say, the WEED will overshadow the WHEAT but they'll grow together and ON THE LAST DAY, they'll be separated!
So, it's evident that there will always abound a WHEAT.
So how many WHEAT were there before Russell was born?
Jesus taught those things in PARABLES, so if you're not careful to meditate on the botanical aspect of what often happens when weeds are allowed to grow alongside wheat you can never understand the illustration. Of course the weeds will overshadow the wheat and make it really difficult for someone who is not careful to collect. Note that Jesus said the world is the farm and the angels are the reapers so his wheat were scattered in different religious groups until 1914 when his angels began picking them together into one single group "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’ 28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed. “‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked. 29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’” NLT
You can see Jesus Himself isn't the HARVESTERS (plural) because Jesus Himself said "He will send His ANGELS to gather all His followers at the four CORNERS of the world"
This is judgement time!
The more you realize the damage wrong watchtower teaching has done to you the easier for you to loose yourself from the pan of yoke.
Of course the judgment is ongoing presently nah! cheesy
Why do you think all of you are crying against just one single group whereas you're all hiding your various religions with contradicting opinions and conflicting doctrines under the same Jesus, when a global family of peace loving worshipers have emerged in your eyes?
Come on my guy, it's the torment of the rich man in Jesus' illustration that's happening presently, your frequent agitation over the works of JWs is tormenting you and your cohorts so you're begging God (father Abraham) to tell us to cool your thirst, is that not why you've been asking series of questions all because of the chasm between us? cheesy
My guy if you don't know, better know now, the judgment is ongoing presently! undecided

And who told you there's no LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst?
Can you provide a video of any gathering of the TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST where they're using chair and table to fight each other?
A statement from my JWs girlfriend "My Aunty died unhappy" why? because of what the organization did to her...
Like I do say, you can keep claiming false love, joy & peace for your organization but the reality is on ground.
So you're claiming before 1914 100% of Christians then we're LOST CHRISTIANS and participated in the WAR, POLITICS AND RACISM?
You're just irredeemable liar!

If you're happy with your FAITH that's having LOVE, JOY and PEACE, then why are you so bitter about what someone you think is an irredeemable liar believe? torí Olórun! cheesy

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 12:31pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:


1. But do they know Jesus is not to be worshipped?
2. Do the early Christians know Jesus is not to be worshipped?



Mr accolade lying liar JWs.

If you use sceipute to proof Jesus is Angel Michael

1. Was these scriptures not available during the time of Russell?
2. Who inspired that Jesus isn't Michael?

These are the questions that'll continue to expose your fraudulent doctrines.



The deluded JWs here again.

If it's in this order then your fraudulent doctrines are keep exposing the more

7And God will provide rest for you who are being persecuted and also for us when the Lord Jesus appears from heaven. He will come with his mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire, bringing judgment on those who don’t know God and on those who refuse to obey the Good News of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power. NLT

Fact from this scripture:
1. Jesus will come with His mighty Angels, Do this happen in 1914?
2. Bringing judgement on those who don't know God and those who refuse to obey the good news of Lord Jesus, has this been achieved?
3. They will be punish with eternal destruction, when do this happen?

This is an evidence that second coming of Christ is different from the fraud presented by your lying organization.

I know you'll just come and rant again without addressing the main point.

1&2, Jesus disciples stuck to Matt4:10, and Mark12:29-30, NONE of them worship Jesus.

(3). STOP making mockery of yourself.
If Jehovah's servants of the first century knew everything, would they need holy spirit to guide them?
Would they wrongly predict that God's kingdom have arrived immediately?

Mr LIENUS, 2 Thess1:7-9 have ZERO connection to your fictitious claim grin


Matt22:44, Acts 2:34-35, 1Corinthians15:25, Psalms 110:1-2 dey your Bible?
Mr LIENUS, take note... Hebrews1:13
"Yahweh commanded your deity, " Sit at my right hand".. Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty Fraud grin grin grin.


From Bible chronology, (more reliable than secular history), Jesus Christ began ruling in heaven in the midst of his enemies in 1914, Revelations 12:7-12, Jesus Christ, (the angel of his Lord, Yahweh) cast Satan & his demons out of heaven. (Go visit our official website and LEARN, Free of charge!!!!).
Woe for the earth and the vast sea of humanity because the Devil, (architect of confusion) is in your midst- the results?
1st &2nd World War unprecedented in human history and perennial chaos of this last days 2 Timothy 3:1-7, Matthew 24:3-39.
The chaos in every corner of the globe points to the fulfillment of biblical prophecies.
.
Soon and very soon, Jehovah God will give His angel, your deity the command to carry out 2 Thess1:7-9 grin grin

Mr LIENUS & fictitious claims na Siamese twins grin grin grin grin
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Nobody: 12:39pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:

Imagine, see the frustration of a lost soul!
No wonder you're so restless on Nairaland jumping from thread to thread being tormented.
So if you're not forcing it on people, why so much restlessness in your life?
They'll decide because they know who is twisting the scripture.

People reading my posts can testify to it that i always advertise a GROUP here, as the one and only TRUE Christian Organization.
If you say you're OK with your Faith i'll switch swiftly to another person because that's what the commander of God's heavenly armies ordered us to continue doing! Matthew 10:11-15, 28:19-20 compare to 2Timothy 4:1-2
So let observers judge for themselves who is frustrated between someone presenting his works by faith and the one who is always tackling those presenting what they've got! cheesy
As for what you term as restlessness, that's what Jesus handed over to his true followers {John 4:31-35} and we must thoroughly finish his work without fail, and over 8,700,000 throughout the earth are doing this JOYFULLY, ZEALOUSLY and INDUSTRIOUSLY Sir! wink

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 12:56pm On Sep 05, 2020
Janosky:
1&2, Jesus disciples stuck to Matt4:10, and Mark12:29-30, NONE of them worship Jesus.

Then why did Russell and his pagan team worship Jesus?

Did Matt 4:10 & Mark 12:29-30 lost in Russell Bible that time, before he promotes the worship of Jesus Christ?

(3). STOP making mockery of yourself.
If Jehovah's servants of the first century knew everything, would they need holy spirit to guide them?
Would they wrongly predict that God's kingdom have arrived immediately?

That's why I always say you lack simple comprehension!

Holy Spirit came as the greatest teacher and the disciples' knowledge were brighten and they never reached any wrong thing because the Holy Spirit is a working in them.

Now, Russell claimed the same Holy Spirit was with him, yet promotes the worship of Jesus Christ, believe Jesus died on the cross.

But today the same Holy Spirit says Jesus shouldn't be worshipped and he didn't died on the cross.

Can you see your delusions?

Mr LIENUS, 2 Thess1:7-9 have ZERO connection to your fictitious claim grin

You can tear it from your demonic translation.


Matt22:44, Acts 2:34-35, Psalms 110:1-2 dey your Bible? Mr LIENUS, take note...
"Yahweh commanded your deity, " Sit at my right hand".. Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty Fraud grin grin grin

Just keep ranting as usual without addressing the main issue.

Deluded Mr accolade.
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 1:00pm On Sep 05, 2020
Janosky:

Very uncouth of you, Mr LIENUS. You lack SENSE and manners
See frustration of a lost soul!
See who is talking about lacking sense and manner
Hypocrite!
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 1:06pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:


See frustration of a lost soul!

See who is talking about lacking sense and manner

Hypocrite!

See wetin dey pepper you...

Matt22:44, Acts 2:34-35, Psalms 110:1-2 dey your Bible? Mr LIENUS, take note... Hebrew 1:13
"Yahweh commanded your deity, " Sit at my right hand".. Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty Fraud grin grin grin

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Nobody: 1:21pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:

Whether you believe it or not is none of my own problem but know that it was a Parable and the wheat represents those who are keenly interested in knowing exactly what Jesus taught, during the dark ages they were subjected to fear due to the overwhelming influence of the weeds so they only worship in different religions claiming Abrahamic enlightenment include Islam until 1914!


Of course they existed, Russell and his team were part of them lost in different Abrahamic religions!



The same scriptures which the Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes, John the baptist and other Jewish Rabbis had was what Jesus used in teaching new things about God's Kingdom. He didn't fabricate anything new. So it's possible for Satan to blur the senses of scholars most especially when they're already intimidated from expressing themselves freely. Note that before the time of Russell and his team, anyone who speaks against the teachings of the churches of Christendom will be executed like William Tyndale! smiley


It took Jesus more than 3 years to preach, teach and form a group, it took him another 65 years to reveal the remaining information found in the Bible book of Revelations when most of his followers have died, so there is nothing new in his style of teaching! wink
As for condemnation, it's only arrogant people who can never be part of his group, as for sinners (people who agreed that they might be wrong) that's exactly those he came to save! Matthew 9:13


Whatever anyone believe before they began taking correction from Jesus is bygone!
He chose them because of their willingness to make amendments! wink


This is where you err in the understanding of the scriptures, someone may be helped by the spirit but not inspired! It is the fruit of God's holy spirit to be patient with time many things will be revealed, otherwise Jesus wouldn't have told his followers that a spirit will continue to remind them of the things he taught them {John 14:26} so as they continue earnestly digging deep and humbly praying for God's holy spirit, the truth will be revealed with time! Proverbs 2:1-5


Jesus taught those things in PARABLES, so if you're not careful to meditate on the botanical aspect of what often happens when weeds are allowed to grow alongside wheat you can never understand the illustration. Of course the weeds will overshadow the wheat and make it really difficult for someone who is not careful to collect. Note that Jesus said the world is the farm and the angels are the reapers so his wheat were scattered in different religious groups until 1914 when his angels began picking them together into one single group "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"


Of course the judgment is ongoing presently nah! cheesy
Why do you think all of you are crying against just one single group whereas you're all hiding your various religions with contradicting opinions and conflicting doctrines under the same Jesus, when a global family of peace loving worshipers have emerged in your eyes?
Come on my guy, it's the torment of the rich man in Jesus' illustration that's happening presently, your frequent agitation over the works of JWs is tormenting you and your cohorts so you're begging God (father Abraham) to tell us to cool your thirst, is that not why you've been asking series of questions all because of the chasm between us? cheesy
My guy if you don't know, better know now, the judgment is ongoing presently! undecided



If you're happy with your FAITH that's having LOVE, JOY and PEACE, then why are you so bitter about what someone you think is an irredeemable liar believe? torí Olórun! cheesy
Maximus69, you're really wicked Walahi Talahi!

If you kill this man with all these torment, God knows your address o! embarassed embarassed embarassed
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 1:24pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:

Whether you believe it or not is none of my own problem but know that it was a Parable and the wheat represents those who are keenly interested in knowing exactly what Jesus taught, during the dark ages they were subjected to fear due to the overwhelming influence of the weeds so they only worship in different religions claiming Abrahamic enlightenment include Islam until 1914!

Now it's a parable but you first cited it!

Whenever your lies and delusions are exposed the next is to shift post.

From the parable and botanics it's evident that WEEDS NEVER ELIMINATE THE WHEAT which means no matter how the weed may be WHEAT will still be found there.

So this nullified your lies.

Of course they existed, Russell and his team were part of them lost in different Abrahamic religions!

Look at @underlined and see how lost you are.

What of before RUSSELL WAS BORN?

So where are the rest who are not part of Russell team?

[quote]The same scriptures which the Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes, John the baptist and other Jewish Rabbis had was what Jesus used in teaching new things about God's Kingdom. He didn't fabricate anything new. So it's possible for Satan to blur the senses of scholars most especially when they're already intimidated from expressing themselves freely. Note that before the time of Russell and his team, anyone who speaks against the teachings of the churches of Christendom will be executed like William Tyndale! smiley

So do you agree people like William Tyndale are TRUE CHRISTIANS?

Are they going to be part of heavenly ones?

It took Jesus more than 3 years to preach, teach and form a group, it took him another 65 years to reveal the remaining information found in the Bible book of Revelations when most of his followers have died, so there is nothing new in his style of teaching! wink

So which NEW THINGS did Jesus taught Russell and his pagan team that the early Christians didn't know about?

You agree the early Christians don't worship Christ and believe he died on the cross

So why will Jesus teach Russell that?

As for condemnation, it's only arrogant people who can never be part of his group, as for sinners (people who agreed that they might be wrong) that's exactly those he came to save! Matthew 9:13

So who are you to know who is arrogant or not?

Are you God?


Whatever anyone believe before they began taking correction from Jesus is bygone!
He chose them because of their willingness to make amendments! wink

So what exactly was the CORRECTION Russell took from Jesus when he still died in worshipping Jesus?

Then how do you know Jesus is not correcting many people again?

This is where you err in the understanding of the scriptures, someone may be helped by the spirit but not inspired! It is the fruit of God's holy spirit to be patient with time many things will be revealed, otherwise Jesus wouldn't have told his followers that a spirit will continue to remind them of the things he taught them {John 14:26} so as they continue earnestly digging deep and humbly praying for God's holy spirit, the truth will be revealed with time! Proverbs 2:1-5

just a pity, you can be helped by spirit but not inspired, DID RUSSELL NOT CLAIM INSPIRATION FOR HIS TEACHINGS?

So which one is true:
1. Russell was helped by the spirit but not inspired?
2. Russell was inspired but was not helped by the spirit?
3. Russell was both helped and inspired by the spirit?

Jesus taught those things in PARABLES, so if you're not careful to meditate on the botanical aspect of what often happens when weeds are allowed to grow alongside wheat you can never understand the illustration. Of course the weeds will overshadow the wheat and make it really difficult for someone who is not careful to collect. Note that Jesus said the world is the farm and the angels are the reapers so his wheat were scattered in different religious groups until 1914 when his angels began picking them together into one single group "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

Mr parable, it's now you know it's parable.

But does it negate the fact that WEED NEVERS ELIMINATES WHEAT?

But you claimed Jesus Himself came in 1914, when the same Bible you cited says otherwise....

Lying liar.

Of course the judgment is ongoing presently nah! cheesy
Why do you think all of you are crying against just one single group whereas you're all hiding your various religions with contradicting opinions and conflicting doctrines under the same Jesus, when a global family of peace loving worshipers have emerged in your eyes?
Come on my guy, it's the torment of the rich man in Jesus' illustration that's happening presently, your frequent agitation over the works of JWs is tormenting you and your cohorts so you're begging God (father Abraham) to tell us to cool your thirst, is that not why you've been asking series of questions all because of the chasm between us? cheesy
My guy if you don't know, better know now, the judgment is ongoing presently! undecided

So the judgement you read about in that verse is people crying against your lying organization.

Wonder shall never ends

If you're happy with your FAITH that's having LOVE, JOY and PEACE, then why are you so bitter about what someone you think is an irredeemable liar believe? torí Olórun! cheesy

Simply provide the fact I asked you oh yeh hypocrite!

Says the deluded JWs who keep jumping over every post on religion section of Nairaland restlessly.
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by DappaD: 1:27pm On Sep 05, 2020
Acts 10:10-16; 11:5-10



In the vision he saw, why did Peter call the animals that descended from heaven “UNCLEAN”?



Peter, before he became a apostle of Jesus Christ, he was a fisherman and a Jew—who practiced the Mosaic Law. The Law put restrictions on the food the Jews could consume—with some being unclean. (Leviticus 11:4, 13-20, Deuteronomy 14:19)

Now even after some years had past since Christ's death, evidently in the year 36CE, approximately 3years after the death and resurrection of Christ, DIDN'T PETER KNOW THAT THE DEATH OF CHRIST MARKED THE END OF THE LAW? undecided undecided(Matthew 5:17, Romans 10:4, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:13,14)

The answer is simple. The Jewish Christians had long practiced the Law from childbirth so they needed time to adjust and change their mentality/lifestyle and they were willing to do so. Just like Peter was ever ready to receive correction and readjustment, like how the voice from heaven corrected him. So you cannot hold Peter accountable for what he believed prior to when he knew Christ! Since all that's important is humility to make changes.

Now that's what is known as PROGRESSIVE LEARNING . smiley

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 1:27pm On Sep 05, 2020
Janosky:


See wetin dey pepper you...

Matt22:44, Acts 2:34-35, Psalms 110:1-2 dey your Bible? Mr LIENUS, take note... Hebrew 1:13
"Yahweh commanded your deity, " Sit at my right hand".. Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty Fraud grin grin grin


Mr accolade lying liar JWs!

No more reasonable things to say than ranting and spewing thrashes.

I know your type before

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Nobody: 1:33pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:

Now it's a parable but you first cited it!
Whenever your lies and delusions are exposed the next is to shift post.
From the parable and botanics it's evident that WEEDS NEVER ELIMINATE THE WHEAT which means no matter how the weed may be WHEAT will still be found there.
So this nullified your lies.

So you don't even know that the Wheat and Weed Parable was a prophetic illustration shey? cheesy

Gbà fógàá e! cheesy

Jehovah's Witnesses will always silence you no matter how arrogant you may prove to be! Isaiah 54:17

You can now continue crying all over Nairaland!

It's evident you've been exhausted! wink

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 1:35pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:


Then why did Russell and his pagan team worship Jesus?

Did Matt 4:10 & Mark 12:29-30 lost in Russell Bible that time, before he promotes the worship of Jesus Christ?



That's why I always say you lack simple comprehension!

Holy Spirit came as the greatest teacher and the disciples' knowledge were brighten and they never reached any wrong thing because the Holy Spirit is a working in them.

Now, Russell claimed the same Holy Spirit was with him, yet promotes the worship of Jesus Christ, believe Jesus died on the cross.

But today the same Holy Spirit says Jesus shouldn't be worshipped and he didn't died on the cross.

[s]Can you see your delusions?



You can tear it from your demonic translation.




Just keep ranting as usual without addressing the main issue.

Deluded Mr accolade[/s].

Mr LIENUS continuously making FALSE claims ranting like a broken record. grin grin grin

It's the same holy spirit leading Jesus and followers of Jesus.

Mr LIENUS, "Jesus disciples never reached any wrong thing", why were they disputing about the issue of Circumcision?
Absence or presence of holy spirit can not remove imperfections of Jesus followers.
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 1:39pm On Sep 05, 2020
Janosky:


Mr LIENUS continuously making FALSE claims ranting like a broken record. grin grin grin

It's the same holy spirit leading Jesus and followers of Jesus.

Mr LIENUS, "Jesus disciples never reached any wrong thing", why were they disputing about the issue of Circumcision?
Absence or presence of holy spirit can not remove imperfections of Jesus followers.

The question you'll never answer still remain, did they die without knowing circumcision is wrong or right?

Mr accolade lying liar

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 1:46pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:


So you don't even know that the Wheat and Weed Parable was a prophetic illustration shey? cheesy

Gbà fógàá e! cheesy

Jehovah's Witnesses will always silence you no matter how arrogant you may prove to be! Isaiah 54:17

You can now continue crying all over Nairaland!

It's evident you've been exhausted! wink

That's the irony of a deluded person!

You brought the analogy of Botanic to support the parable, yet I made you understand that even in Botanic WEEDS DON'T ELIMINATE WHEAT

And the parable of Jesus on that is as clear as crystal but can only be twisted by a lying liar JWs.

Jesus will send His HARVESTERS this is supported with Christ own statement that "When He appeared in the CLOUD He'll send all His ANGELS to gather together"

And it's immediately the weed will be turn into BURNING FIRE, so if this has started happening since 1914 it means some people are already burning by fire till now which even your organization is against.

So much for the Bible twisters and lying liar like their father the Devil

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 1:47pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:



[s]Mr accolade lying liar JWs!

No more reasonable things to say than ranting and spewing thrashes.

I know your type before [/s]

See wetin dey pepper you...

Matt22:44, Acts 2:34-35, Psalms 110:1-2 dey your Bible? Mr LIENUS, take note... Hebrew 1:13
"Yahweh commanded your deity, " Sit at my right hand".. Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty Fraud.
Mr LIENUS in sifia pains.
Him no like him deity obeying his Father's command : "Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as stool for your feet"
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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 2:00pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:



That's why I always say you lack simple comprehension!

Holy Spirit came as the greatest teacher and the disciples' knowledge were brighten and they never reached any wrong thing because the Holy Spirit is a working in them.


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Mr LIENUS, "Jesus disciples never reached any wrong thing", why were they disputing about the issue of Circumcision?
Absence or presence of holy spirit can not remove imperfections of Jesus followers.

Now we definitely know you're here forming James Bond while you receive "Expo" from JWs
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Emusan:


The question you'll never answer still remain, did they die without knowing circumcision is wrong or right?

Mr accolade lying liar
Does Mr LIENUS have proof that none of the disciples died while the dispute about Circumcision was going on ?

Mr LIENUS done give everyone of them immortal life on earth wey Jesus never give them at that time
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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Nobody: 2:07pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:

That's the irony of a deluded person!
You brought the analogy of Botanic to support the parable, yet I made you understand that even in Botanic WEEDS DON'T ELIMINATE WHEAT

And the parable of Jesus on that is as clear as crystal but can only be twisted by a lying liar JWs.

Jesus will send His HARVESTERS this is supported with Christ own statement that "When He appeared in the CLOUD He'll send all His ANGELS to gather together"
And it's immediately the weed will be turn into BURNING FIRE, so if this has started happening since 1914 it means some people are already burning by fire till now which even your organization is against.
So much for the Bible twisters and lying liar like their father the Devil

Parable is so clear yet Jesus' audience including his own followers didn't understand until Jesus began explanations shey?

I thought you will give a better interpretation nah! cheesy

Do you now see why i've always tormented you saying "present a better performing group"
Just imagine you want to condemn the interpretation of a performing group, you can't present another group and to worsen your condition you can't even interpret the Parable!

I pity your condition! cheesy
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by achorladey: 2:29pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emusan:


That's the irony of a deluded person!

You brought the analogy of Botanic to support the parable, yet I made you understand that even in Botanic WEEDS DON'T ELIMINATE WHEAT

And the parable of Jesus on that is as clear as crystal but can only be twisted by a lying liar JWs.

Jesus will send His HARVESTERS this is supported with Christ own statement that "When He appeared in the CLOUD He'll send all His ANGELS to gather together"

And it's immediately the weed will be turn into BURNING FIRE, so if this has started happening since 1914 it means some people are already burning by fire till now which even your organization is against.

So much for the Bible twisters and lying liar like their father the Devil

They will put things out and get a good lecture from what they put out which they don't understand. The next they do is, go back and turn it against the person grin grin grin grin grin

Same platform that you will hear them say true Christians ceased to exist after the death of the apostles. Meaning the weeds kill all the wheats. When Jesus now returned in 1914 he had to convert humble weeds and honesthearted weeds into humble wheats and honest hearted WHEATS

When they accused of turning the Bible into something else. They cry uncouth and mannerless.

Since Jesus started gathering WHEATS since 1914, when did he BURN the WEEDS at least the scripture say WEEDS were collected and burnt FIRST grin grin grin

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by achorladey: 3:11pm On Sep 05, 2020
DappaD:
Acts 10:10-16; 11:5-10



In the vision he saw, why did Peter call the animals that descended from heaven “UNCLEAN”?



Peter, before he became a apostle of Jesus Christ, he was a fisherman and a Jew—who practiced the Mosaic Law. The Law put restrictions on the food the Jews could consume—with some being unclean. (Leviticus 11:4, 13-20, Deuteronomy 14:19)

Now even after some years had past since Christ's death, evidently in the year 36CE, approximately 3years after the death and resurrection of Christ, DIDN'T PETER KNOW THAT THE DEATH OF CHRIST MARKED THE END OF THE LAW? undecided undecided(Matthew 5:17, Romans 10:4, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:13,14)

The answer is simple. The Jewish Christians had long practiced the Law from childbirth so they needed time to adjust and change their mentality/lifestyle and they were willing to do so. Just like Peter was ever ready to receive correction and readjustment, like how the voice from heaven corrected him. So you cannot hold Peter accountable for what he believed prior to when he knew Christ! Since all that's important is humility to make changes.

Now that's what is known as PROGRESSIVE LEARNING . smiley

Look at the picture below as found in your magazines............

Contains the following........

What new truth did Jehovah help Peter to understand?

One begin to wonder what is the NEW TRUTH or which one is the OLD TRUTH grin grin grin grin

From the same magazine........If Peter had judged matters solely on outward appearance, he would never have entered the home of Cornelius..........

Peter, no doubt moved by the account, declared under inspiration: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.” (Acts 10:34, 35) What a thrilling new understanding for Peter​—one with far-reaching implications! How would this truth(the NEW TRUTH) about being impartial affect all Christians?


From the above the NEW TRUTH Peter learnt is that GOD is IMPARTIAL. One begin to wonder how is that a NEW TRUTH. Has God being partial? Or his dealing in the past has shown partiality?

Look at the below......

Did Peter have “the privilege of revealing Jehovah’s impartiality”?

When the Priest and scribes and Pharisees tried to trap Jesus over whether the Jews should pay taxes, they acknowledged about Jesus that “Teacher, we know you speak and teach correctly and show no partiality, but you teach the way of God in line with truth”. (Luke 20:21-22)

Jesus has shown on numerous occasions that GOD is not PARTIAL. So how will it be a case of NEW TRUTH as if it has not been established previously? Peter didn't learn NEW TRUTH.

That's how they colour your eyes with NEW TRUTH, OLD TRUTH, NEW LIGHT, OLD LIGHT and the numerous lights in Kanye's words.....Cop lights, flashlights, spotlights Strobe lights, street lights (All of the lights, all of the lights grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by achorladey: 4:18pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:


Parable is so clear yet Jesus' audience including his own followers didn't understand until Jesus began explanations shey?

I thought you will give a better interpretation nah! cheesy

Do you now see why i've always tormented you saying "present a better performing group"
Just imagine you want to condemn the interpretation of a performing group, you can't present another group and to worsen your condition you can't even interpret the Parable!

I pity your condition! cheesy

The below is for you grin grin grin grin grin grin grin the organization you belong want you to be sure of what you believe. The heading equally serve as INDICTMENT that not all of you understand and CAN explain them grin grin grin grin and you are here BOASTING grin grin grin grin

Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Nobody: 4:20pm On Sep 05, 2020
Whatever anyone thinks is no problem for the worshipers of JEHOVAH!

What will always be between true and false worship is the chasm that needed to be noticed, thank God there is nothing worshipers of Satan has against Jehovah's Witnesses than rejection, our God rejected the worship of Cain and accepted Abel's worship.
So it has been like this from the beginning, they will only hate us for standing out, any other accusations will be general.
The OP can only point to flaws that's everywhere but we will point out things that pure worship have done in our midst that cannot be found anywhere else!
Farewell! smiley

Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by achorladey: 4:25pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:
Whatever anyone thinks is no problem for the worshipers of JEHOVAH!

What will always be between true and false worship is the chasm that needed to be noticed, thank God there is nothing worshipers of Satan has against Jehovah's Witnesses than rejection, our God rejected the worship of Cain and accepted Abel's worship.
So it has been like this from the beginning, they will only hate us for standing out, any other accusations will be general.
The OP can only point to flaws that's everywhere but we will point out things that pure worship have done in our midst that cannot be found anywhere else!
Farewell! smiley



grin grin grin grin grin grin but you have stopped knocking for six months in Nigeria, is the end HERE grin grin grin grin grin grin. Hope mouth no go change again grin grin grin after all it is a FACT grin grin grin grin

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 6:10pm On Sep 06, 2020
Maximus69:
Parable is so clear yet Jesus' audience including his own followers didn't understand until Jesus began explanations shey?

At least you know Jesus Himself explained the parables, which means we can understand the parable now inline with scriptures.

I thought you will give a better interpretation nah! cheesy

It was plainly said by Jesus in that parable that WEED AND WHEAT WILL GROW TOGETHER and the only time WEED WILL BE SEPARATED FROM THE WHEAT is the end time when Jesus will send His harvesters to gather the weed FIRST and BURN THEM before gathering the Wheat in a ban.

If we go with this, then weed has been burning since 1914 till date.

Do you now see why i've always tormented you saying "present a better performing group"
Just imagine you want to condemn the interpretation of a performing group, you can't present another group and to worsen your condition you can't even interpret the Parable!

I pity your condition! cheesy

The only group I can present for you according to scripture is the BODY OF CHRIST which are with many MEMBERS. If you think you're not part of that body then continue with your pagan master.

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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 6:21pm On Sep 06, 2020
Janosky:
Mr LIENUS, "Jesus disciples never reached any wrong thing", why were they disputing about the issue of Circumcision?
Absence or presence of holy spirit can not remove imperfections of Jesus followers.

The lying liar accolade, follower of a pagan master!

Does the issue of circumcision has any effect on salvation? No!

But do you agree that:
1. Worshipping of Jesus Christ is a pagan practice?
2. Accepting Cross is a pagan practice?

Does anyone who do any of these will leave in paradise or be part of the heavenly chosen?

Now we definitely know you're here forming James Bond while you receive "Expo" from JWs
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When a deluded and brainwashed JWs is making himself happy.

When it's evident that you people always go home with different lecture notes here.

Does Mr LIENUS have proof that none of the disciples died while the dispute about Circumcision was going on ?

Mr LIENUS done give everyone of them immortal life on earth wey Jesus never give them at that time
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Lying liar JWs following the foot step of his darling daddy the Devil.

Circumcision has nothing to do with salvation.

Why Jesus allowed RUSSELL and his pagan team to die in their pagan practices is still the question that'll continue to torment you people
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 3:30pm On Sep 07, 2020
Emusan:



Holy Spirit came as the greatest teacher and the disciples' knowledge were brighten and they never reached any wrong thing because the Holy Spirit is a working in them.

.

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS, "Jesus disciples never reached any wrong thing", why were they disputing about the issue of Circumcision?
Absence or presence of holy spirit can not remove imperfections of Jesus followers.
Emusan:


Does the issue of circumcision has any effect on salvation? No!

Circumcision has nothing to do with salvation
.

Mr Lienus dey console himself grin. grin

Bros the disciples get holy spirit yet they never stopped fighting & quarreling among themselves on matters of doctrine , cliques , factionalism and what have you grin . 1 Corinthians 1:11
"My brothers some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrells among you."

Acts15:2 "This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute on the matter of Circumcision.

Galatians 2:11-14, The disciples practiced hypocrisy "they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel", God's people led by holy spirit
Mr Lienus vamoose from here with your Lienus
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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Emusan(m): 8:50pm On Sep 07, 2020
Janosky:
Janosky:
Mr LIENUS, "Jesus disciples never reached any wrong thing", why were they disputing about the issue of Circumcision?
Absence or presence of holy spirit can not remove imperfections of Jesus followers.

I know you always leave your brain in the Hall before coming to public.

Lying liar JWs following his father Devil foot steps.

The issue of Russel and the apostles are totally different.

Does imperfection of the disciples lead them to die in wrong teaching? This is the question your tiny brain won't answer

They disputed issue of CIRCUMCISION and get cleared.

Who did Russell disput the issue of worshipping Jesus with?

Who did Russell disput the issue of Christ died on the cross with?

Mr Lienus dey console himself grin. grin

[b]Bros the disciples get holy spirit yet they never stopped fighting & quarreling among themselves on matters of doctrine , cliques , factionalism and what have you grin . 1 Corinthians 1:11
"My brothers some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrells among you."

In all these your disciples fighting and quarreling you haven't provided us that it's because some are worshipping Jesus Christ or that Jesus Christ died on the cross that caused the fight.

Acts15:2 "This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute on the matter of Circumcision.

Galatians 2:11-14, The disciples practiced hypocrisy "they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel", God's people led by holy spirit

Was it a pagan doctrines that caused the dispute?

Can a pagan reign with Christ?

But do they die in that wrong teaching?

Why will Russell die worshipping Jesus Christ and believe Jesus died on the cross if those practices are actually pagan?

These are the questions you can't give straight answers to because you will implicate your pagan founder and his team.

Mr Lienus vamoose from here with your Lienus
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This is full quote of Gal 2:11-14 so that you can see it's a different case compare to your pagan founder Russell and his team.

11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. 12 When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision. 13 As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. 14 When I saw that they were not following the truth of the gospel message, I said to Peter in front of all the others, “Since you, a Jew by birth, have discarded the Jewish laws and are living like a Gentile, why are you now trying to make these Gentiles follow the Jewish traditions? NLT

The Holy Spirit must have used Apostle Paul to correct Apostle Peter and he took to correction.

Who did Holy Spirit use to correct Russell and his team that worshipping of Jesus Christ is a pagan practice?

Besides, Russell believes all his teachings are accurate as it wasn't from man but from God Himself.

It's evident that RUSSELL and God were right and today's JWs are wrong.
Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 10:07pm On Sep 25, 2020
Emusan:

1)
I know you always leave your brain in the Hall before coming to public.

Lying liar JWs following his father Devil foot steps.

The issue of Russel and the apostles are totally different.

Does imperfection of the disciples lead them to die in wrong teaching? This is the question your tiny brain won't answer

They disputed issue of CIRCUMCISION and get cleared.

Who did Russell disput the issue of worshipping Jesus with?

Who did Russell disput the issue of Christ died on the cross with?



In all these your disciples fighting and quarreling you haven't provided us that it's because some are worshipping Jesus Christ or that Jesus Christ died on the cross that caused the fight.



Was it a pagan doctrines that caused the dispute?

Can a pagan reign with Christ?

But do they die in that wrong teaching?

Why will Russell die worshipping Jesus Christ and believe Jesus died on the cross if those practices are actually pagan?

These are the questions you can't give straight answers to because you will implicate your pagan founder and his team.



.

Mr LIENUS, Jesus is NOT the God of Russell. The man NEVER said so.

No be you dey quote Galatians 2:11-14?
Is Jesus disciples and Mr Russell perfect? grin

Mr LIENUS , disputes and quarrels were common among Jesus disciples before and after Jesus death . It is in Matthew, Luke, Acts, Galatians,
1 Corinthians , Colossians etc
.
1 Corinthians 15:6
After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.


Some disciples fell asleep in death when those disputes took place.
Mr LIENUS have no proof Jesus disciples were immune to death before and after Jesus death during the period of Matthew to Colossians.

No dey MUMU yourself again.
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Re: Why Don't Apostate Just Move On With Their Lives by Janosky: 10:20pm On Sep 25, 2020
Emusan:



This is full quote of Gal 2:11-14 so that you can see it's a different case compare to your pagan founder Russell and his team.

11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. 12 When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision. 13 As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. 14 When I saw that they were not following the truth of the gospel message, I said to Peter in front of all the others, “Since you, a Jew by birth, have discarded the Jewish laws and are living like a Gentile, why are you now trying to make these Gentiles follow the Jewish traditions? NLT

The Holy Spirit must have used Apostle Paul to correct Apostle Peter and he took to correction.

Who did Holy Spirit use to correct Russell and his team that worshipping of Jesus Christ is a pagan practice?

Besides, Russell believes all his teachings are accurate as it wasn't from man but from God Himself.

It's evident that RUSSELL and God were right and today's JWs are wrong.


Jehovah's worship did not begin and end with Mr Russell.
Jehovah God CORRECTS His Servants at His own appropriate time "Ogechi ka nma" , NOT at the whim and caprices of Mr LIENUS.

Was it only Paul ?
What of the others who received correction in the holy Scriptures?

Acts15:14, John 17:6,26 Jehovah God has His Servants bearing His name on earth today, (not Triune idols worshippers like Mr LIENUS).
HE guides them to make corrections at His due time.

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