Maximus69:


He belonged to the GROUP taught by the late John the baptist, so he was a disciple not of Jesus but of John!

A Muslim can also teach about Jesus based on the things he read in the Bible but he may not be one of Jesus' disciples who are willing to live their lives for Jesus.

That's the difference between Apollos and the couple who taught him more accurately the things about Christ!

Maximus69: He belonged to the GROUP taught by the late John the baptist, so he was a disciple not of Jesus but of John!

Achorladey: Interesting, so was he preaching about JESUS CHRIST or NOT?

Janosky:


Acts 15:14, Jehovah's people are everywhere worshipping the only true God, Jehovah.
Deal with it.

This is what one of your brother sorry friend said about the above

Well Jerusalem according to Jesus (God's only begotten Son) has been been condemned so Warwick is the place! wink

Emusan:

1)
Who are "THEY" that are making blunders?

Russell and his pagan team or people before him!

How come Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ came in 1914 but the wrong teaching still continue till 1950's?

Are you staying Holy Spirit together with Jesus didn't know what they are doing?
2)
Who inspired that:
1. Jesus is angel Michael?
2. Jesus isn't angel Michael?
3. Jesus is angel Michael again?

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*3)
Bonus point

So Jesus came down and nobody saw Him?

The Bible must be lying when it says:

Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.[/b]

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But you just said nobody will condemn the disciples of John for dying with John teachings.

Is it not the same Holy Spirit you said teaches Russell and his pagan team for wrong teaching.



So a pagan worshippers RUSSELL and his team will be part of the heavenly chosen.

That's wonderful!

Everyone can see that, you're still justifying the unjustifiable thing by smuggled RUSSELL into the chosen one when many people also baptized in the name of the Father, son and Holy spirit before Russell even born.

After JWs give you, this "Expo", you go twist am dey confuse sheeples wey no know dia left from dia right .

John 15:15. 16:16-18, Jesus Christ is teaching his disciples, he was even with them.. but them no grasp everything he taught them.. they still make mistakes.
Luke chapter 24, Jesus continuously correcting them after his ascension...
Receive SENSE

*2)
Joshua 5:13-15. Jesus christ is the angel...., Jesus is the same angel in the book of Daniel fighting for Yahweh's servants.
Yahweh the only true God, can never be an angel. . Go and beg your trinitarian scholars who are aware to school you


*3)

Bros, not everyone knew of Jesus Christ ascension, likewise , not everyone will know he is executing judgment. 2 Thess1:7-9

Is it every human that believes Jesus is the Christ?

achorladey:


This is what one of your brother sorry friend said about the above

Well Jerusalem according to Jesus (God's only begotten Son) has been been condemned so Warwick is the place! wink

Bros, is Warwick in planet Jupiter?

Janosky:



Bros, is Warwick in planet Jupiter?

Go and ask Maximus69, he said that is the NEW WHERE now don't divert the point made

Oga Janosky I forgot, Jerusalem was in PLUTO

Emusan:

Who are "THEY" that are making blunders?
Russell and his pagan team or people before him!

Jesus said let them grow together {Matthew 13:24-30} so the falsehood Satan planted spread everywhere until Jesus came in 1914, he searched the whole earth until found a group that's prepared to start making amendments so only the Bible students were prepared to start making the needed changes and reforms.

How come Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ came in 1914 but the wrong teaching still continue till 1950's?

Jesus came as an invisible mighty spirit so all his earthly disciples must be humble enough to grasp when the needed reform come, note that when he was here visibly his followers still don't easily grasp what he was teaching them. So it's not a surprise if his followers are finding it difficult to grasp what he's telling them in the spirit! but Jesus is an understanding counselor so he's patient with them!

Are you saying Holy Spirit together with Jesus didn't know what they are doing?

Jehovah and Jesus are not looking for perfect humans but sinners (those prone to error) all what they want is humble people who are ever willing to adapt to any circumstances. Jehovah is the one molding us and he knew the enemy hunting us so whoever is unwilling to take orders can't survive the end! Zephaniah 2:2-3

Who inspired that:
1. Jesus is angel Michael?
2. Jesus isn't angel Michael?
3. Jesus is angel Michael again?[/quote
When Jesus was speaking face to face with his disciples, it takes time before they can fully understand the information he's passing, so we can't expect them to grasp easily what he's telling them now that he's a spirit!


[quote]So Jesus came down and nobody saw Him?
The Bible must be lying when it says:
Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

In the same manner!
Well only his faithful disciples knew about his departure, otherwise if all the Jews saw Jesus ascending to heaven majority will believe him the way they did with Elijah, they will go and kill all his opposers. But because it's only his disciples that witnessed his departure, it became a matter of dispute amongst the people!

But you just said nobody will condemn the disciples of John for dying with John teachings.
Is it not the same Holy Spirit you said teaches Russell and his pagan team for wrong teaching.

God doesn't condemn people due to misdirected zeal but he does when you see the works of God's holy spirit and continue antagonizing fine works!

So a pagan worshippers RUSSELL and his team will be part of the heavenly chosen.
That's wonderful!
Everyone can see that, you're still justifying the unjustifiable thing by smuggled RUSSELL into the chosen one when many people also baptized in the name of the Father, son and Holy spirit before Russell even born.

For Jesus to have chosen the GROUP and made them receptive to the new light, is a sign that they're his chosen ones, remember that the first century Christians after their baptism by God's holy spirit also committed a blunder when they tried to eradicate poverty in their midst. Jesus told them "you will always have the poor with you" {Mark 14:7} but as soon as they were anointed with God's holy spirit they decided to end poverty in their midst, this lead to the death of a Christian couple. That's the end of that program, note that the holy spirit didn't stop them but punished the couple who didn't comply with the arrangement!

So those leading God's people may err in Organizational directions but God will never favour whoever disregard his chosen one! Numbers 12:1-8

Thanks!

achorladey:


Maximus69: He belonged to the GROUP taught by the late John the baptist, so he was a disciple not of Jesus but of John!

Achorladey: Interesting, so was he preaching about JESUS CHRIST or NOT?

Muslims, Churchgoers and Jehovah's Witnesses are all preaching about Jesus too but there is a need for accurate knowledge that's why Apollos was taken by Aquila and Priscilla to help him gain the knowledge of Christ more accurately! Act 18:26

Maximus69:


Muslims, Churchgoers and Jehovah's Witnesses are all preaching about Jesus too but there is a need for accurate knowledge that's why Apollos was taken by Aquila and Priscilla to help him gain the knowledge of Christ more accurately! Act 18:26

In essence he was preaching about the CHRIST, he wasn't preaching about another person or something else what the reason this was recorded

This man had been instructed* in the way of Jehovah,* and aglow with the spirit, he was speaking and teaching accurately the things about Jesus, what he was teaching line up in sync he was later taught not something else.


The reason Emusan said.......Learning new things don't negate THE TRUTH

That Aquila and Priscilla did this, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him

Didn't change the TRUTH Apollos already know about the CHRIST[

achorladey:


In essence he was preaching about the CHRIST, he wasn't preaching about another person or something else what the reason this was recorded

This man had been instructed* in the way of Jehovah,* and aglow with the spirit, he was speaking and teaching accurately the things about Jesus, what he was teaching line up in sync he was later taught not something else.


The reason Emusan said.......Learning new things don't negate THE TRUTH

That Aquila and Priscilla did this, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him

Didn't change the TRUTH Apollos already know about the CHRIST

Just as Muslims, Churchgoers and Jehovah's Witnesses also knew about the Christ, so what remains is to explain the way of God more accurately, on that the GB we trust to do justice, just as Apollos trusted (believed) the advanced learning about the Christ from Aquila and Priscilla!

Maximus69:


Just as Muslims, Churchgoers and Jehovah's Witnesses also knew about the Christ, so what remains is to explain the way of God more accurately, on that the GB we trust to do justice, just as Apollos trusted (believed) the advanced learning about the Christ from Aquila and Priscilla!

The way of God that surrounds CHRIST which Apollos knew before meeting Aquila and Priscilla and which Apollos was teaching ACCURATELY.

Maximus69: GB we trust to do justice

Achorladey: Part of the Justice GB does in explaining way of God more accurately is PUTTING FAITH in a VISIBLE organization for SALVATION. Was Apollos caught in such a teaching or were Aquila and Priscilla saying putting FAITH in a visible ORGANIZATION?

achorladey:


The way of God that surrounds CHRIST which Apollos knew before meeting Aquila and Priscilla and which Apollos was teaching ACCURATELY.

Maximus69: GB we trust to do justice

Achorladey: Part of the Justice GB does in explaining way of God more accurately is PUTTING FAITH in a VISIBLE organization for SALVATION. Was Apollos caught in such a teaching or were Aquila and Priscilla saying putting FAITH in a visible ORGANIZATION?

Apollos & Priscilla are members of Jehovah's Organization.

2 Chronicles 7:14. Acts 15:14, Jehovah's Organization is a scriptural truth.

Achorladey will continue making mockery of himself in his fruitless bid to fight against the truth.

Maximus69:

Jesus said let them grow together {Matthew 13:24-30} so the falsehood Satan planted spread everywhere until Jesus came in 1914, he searched the whole earth until found a group that's prepared to start making amendments so only the Bible students were prepared to start making the needed changes and reforms.

And Jesus still taught them lies that He is God who needs to be worshipped.

If the First Century of the Christians already have the TRUTH there's no need for Jesus to come and start teaching the truth besides, the second coming of Christ is for judgement not teaching.

Jesus came as an invisible mighty spirit so all his earthly disciples must be humble enough to grasp when the needed reform come, note that when he was here visibly his followers still don't easily grasp what he was teaching them. So it's not a surprise if his followers are finding it difficult to grasp what he's telling them in the spirit! but Jesus is an understanding counselor so he's patient with them!

If Jesus actually came as an invisible mighty Spirit, it means Jesus was the one personally teaching Russell and his team.

Then why did Russell and his pagan team still die worshipping Jesus?

Is it Jesus who taught them that or who?

Jehovah and Jesus are not looking for perfect humans but sinners (those prone to error) all what they want is humble people who are ever willing to adapt to any circumstances. Jehovah is the one molding us and he knew the enemy hunting us so whoever is unwilling to take orders can't survive the end! Zephaniah 2:2-3

This doesn't address my point!

Who taught Russell that worshipping of Jesus Christ is good?

Who taught RUSSELL that Christ died on the Cross?

Who taught RUSSELL that he should be an Herald of Jesus Christ and not Jehovah?

If as you claim, Jesus actually came invisibly in 1914 and started correcting people from wrong teachings, then what is the essence of Jesus corrections when the same people still died believing what you called pagan practices today

Maximus69:


Just as Muslims, Churchgoers and Jehovah's Witnesses also knew about the Christ, so what remains is to explain the way of God more accurately, on that the GB we trust to do justice, just as Apollos trusted (believed) the advanced learning about the Christ from Aquila and Priscilla!

So you agree that Muslims and churchgoers are actually SPEAKING and TEACHING accurately the things about Jesus.

Do you know the meaning of someone doing things ACCURATELY?

I know you people lack understanding of basic English

Emusan:

If Jesus actually came as an invisible mighty Spirit, it means Jesus was the one personally teaching Russell and his team.
Then why did Russell and his team still die worshipping Jesus?

You're still repeating the same question Sir.
The whole Churches of Christendom have gone off course, but Russell and his team were working on how to restore Christianity back to how it was in the first century. They discovered that God's Kingdom will be restored in 1914 but they don't fully understand how this would be done. So when 1914 finally came Jesus who got enthroned that year began correcting the misconception this humble group had.

Is it Jesus who taught them that or who?

Jesus claimed he came to bear witness to the truth {John 18:37} so as long as you want the truth Jesus take you as his friend {John 14:6} remember that Satan sowed weed in the midst of Jesus' wheat and it has grown over the centuries, so all those who were killed for the truth throughout those times became Jesus' friends automatically.

Who taught Russell that worshipping of Jesus Christ is good?
Who taught Russell and his team that Christ died on the Cross?

When Jesus first arrived in the first century what he made a matter of serious concern was to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 15:24} of course they were lost in the sence that they need the accurate knowledge of God's word. So all the blunders they've been committing until the arrival of the Christ will be overlooked if only they humbly accept correction through the teachings of Christ! The same thing Jesus did was to start correcting the misconceptions of his humble friends just as he did in the first century, whether in the flesh or in the spirit Jesus' attitude towards helping humble people remains the same! Hebrew 13:8

Who taught RUSSELL that he should be an Herald of Jesus Christ and not Jehovah?

Jehovah is the one who anointed Jesus and enthroned him so that means the same thing!

If as you claim, Jesus actually came invisibly in 1914 and started correcting people from wrong teachings, then what is the essence of Jesus corrections when the same people still died believing what you called pagan practices today

It's not just one man or a few that Jesus came to correct Sir, he must first help his humble friends (Church) to regain Christianity so that the FRUIT of God's holy spirit which the world is seeing now amongst Jehovah's Witnesses {Matthew 5:13-16} will serve as a witness that Jesus is now around doing his work as the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6-7} without this if Jesus should come to destroy ignorant people who never had the opportunity to compare and contrast between falsehood and true Christianity that's unjust!
Please keep asking the questions, even if you are not interested in knowing the answers others may see the light through our discussion.
Thanks for your time and may God bless you!

Emusan:


So you agree that Muslims and churchgoers are actually SPEAKING and TEACHING accurately the things about Jesus.

Do you know the meaning of someone doing things ACCURATELY?

I know you people lack understanding of basic English

The difference is clear between accurate and more accurate Sir!

There are things a Muslim, Churchgoer, JW will say about Jesus that's accurate but what makes the difference is the result {James 2:18-26} of accurate knowledge about Jesus the Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6-7 compare to Micah 4:1-3
If the teachings failed to unite all the adherents as one just as Jesus fervently prayed for {John 17:20-23} then there is still room for more adjustments!

Janosky:



Apollos & Priscilla are members of Jehovah's Organization.

2 Chronicles 7:14. Acts 15:14, Jehovah's Organization is a scriptural truth.

Achorladey will continue making mockery of himself in his fruitless bid to fight against the truth.

Janosky: Apollos & Priscilla are members of Jehovah's Organization.

Achorladey: Apollos and Priscilla are members of WTBTS I hear you. At least I know you understand what made you a member.

Maximus69:
You're still repeating the same question Sir.
The whole Churches of Christendom have gone off course, but Russell and his team were working on how to restore Christianity back to how it was in the first century. They discovered that God's Kingdom will be restored in 1914 but they don't fully understand how this would be done. So when 1914 finally came Jesus who got enthroned that year began correcting the misconception this humble group had.

Just see your double lying mouth dancing around.

"THEY DISCOVERED THAT GOD'S KINGDOM WILL BE RESTORED IN 1914" Isn't you who once said "Jesus CAME INVISIBLY"

Then how can Jesus be correcting misconception when the 1st century Christians already know the truth with Bible provided as a guide?

Jesus claimed he came to bear witness to the truth {John 18:37} so as long as you want the truth Jesus take you as his friend {John 14:6} remember that Satan sowed weed in the midst of Jesus' wheat and it has grown over the centuries, so all those who were killed for the truth throughout those times became Jesus' friends automatically.

The fact that SATAN SOWED WEED in the midst of JESUS' WHEAT shows that there have always been TRUE CHRISTIANS all this while before Russell, if not it won't be in the MIDST OF JESUS' WHEAT but ELIMINATING JESUS' WHEAT.

Who are the JESUS' WHEAT during the time of Russell?

Do they worship Jesus?
Do they claim Jesus died on the cross?

When Jesus first arrived in the first century what he made a matter of serious concern was to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 15:24} of course they were lost in the sence that they need the accurate knowledge of God's word.

This statement has nothing to do with the second coming of Christ

So all the blunders they've been committing until the arrival of the Christ will be overlooked[b]

Then who told you all the blunders people have been committing won't be overlooked by the same Jesus again?

And most importantly, the you're still dodging is, if Jesus actually came with The Holy Spirit to Russell and his pagan team, why did they died in WRONG TEACHING?

What is the essence of Jesus teachings when this people still died in wrong belief?

Jesus mission on earth spans a space of just 3 YEARS and within 40days after resurrection Jesus has opened the eyes of His disciples to UNDERSTANDING.

We see the effect in their life not years later but few days.

if only they humbly accept correction through the teachings of Christ![/b] The same thing Jesus did was to start correcting the misconceptions of his humble friends just as he did in the first century, whether in the flesh or in the spirit Jesus' attitude towards helping humble people remains the same! Hebrew 13:8

How can there be a misconception when there are already 1st century Christians who are TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST and a Bible for Guidance?

Most important, when Jesus wheat are still abound everywhere?

Jehovah is the one who anointed Jesus and enthroned him so that means the same thing!

It's not the same thing!

1. Yahweh Himself bears witness of Jesus
2. The Holy spirit bears witness of Jesus Christ
3. The Apostles bear witness of Jesus Christ
4. Jesus Himself said "You shall be MY WITNESS"

That's why everything the TRUE WORSHIPPERS OF YAHWEH did are all IN THE NAME OF JESUS because there's no name under heaven given for man to be saved except Christ name!

It's not just one man or a few that Jesus came to correct Sir, he must first help his humble friends (Church) to regain Christianity so that the FRUIT of God's holy spirit which the world is seeing now amongst Jehovah's Witnesses {Matthew 5:13-16} will serve as a witness that Jesus is now around doing his work as the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6-7} without this if Jesus should come to destroy ignorant people who never had the opportunity to compare and contrast between falsehood and true Christianity that's unjust!
Please keep asking the questions, even if you are not interested in knowing the answers others may see the light through our discussion.
Thanks for your time and may God bless you!

What is the essence of REGAIN CHRISTIANITY when the teaching and practice never lost and even when a BOOK for guidance has already available?

It's either what RUSSELL and his team believe is the actual teachings of Jesus or you people are wrong.

No two ways about it!

achorladey:


Janosky: Apollos & Priscilla are members of Jehovah's Organization.

Achorladey: Apollos and Priscilla are members of WTBTS I hear you. At least I know you understand what made you a member.

Tell him to provide you the watchtower publications and Awake magazines Apollos & Priscilla read

Janosky:
After JWs give you, this "Expo", you go twist am dey confuse sheeples wey no know dia left from dia right .

Just as your deluded organization is confusing you because you don't know your left from your right.

John 15:15. 16:16-18, Jesus Christ is teaching his disciples, he was even with them.. but them no grasp everything he taught them.. they still make mistakes.
Luke chapter 24, Jesus continuously correcting them after his ascension...
Receive SENSE

But did they still grab His teachings or they all died WITHOUT GRABBING THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS?

You'll never receive sense

*2)
Joshua 5:13-15. Jesus christ is the angel...., Jesus is the same angel in the book of Daniel fighting for Yahweh's servants.
Yahweh the only true God, can never be an angel. . Go and beg your trinitarian scholars who are aware to school you

So you have Bible as a guidance to know this yet back and forth confusion about Jesus is Michael.

1. Jesus is Michael
2. No! Jesus isn't Michael
3. Yes! Jesus is Michael

Who taught the second wrong teaching "Jesus Himself and the Holy Spirit or Satan?

*3) Bros, not everyone knew of Jesus Christ ascension, likewise , not everyone will know he is executing judgment. 2 Thess1:7-9

Is it every human that believes Jesus is the Christ?

The few ones who know about it, did they see Jesus IN THE MANNER HE WAS TAKEN UP"?

You can see the confusion I'm talking about!

Your brother says Jesus second coming is to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel and be teaching/correcting them but you said Jesus is executing JUDGEMENT.

Which is what I even told him that the second coming of Christ is about judgement not teaching or correction.

You can see the person who is giving "expo"

Blind leading the blind!

Maximus69:


The difference is clear between accurate and more accurate Sir!

There are things a Muslim, Churchgoer, JW will say about Jesus that's accurate but what makes the difference is the result {James 2:18-26} of accurate knowledge about Jesus the Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6-7 compare to Micah 4:1-3
If the teachings failed to unite all the adherents as one just as Jesus fervently prayed for {John 17:20-23} then there is still room for more adjustments!

Just keep deluding yourself!

The disciples found a man performing miracles in Jesus name and the disciples thought since the man wasn't following them (They and Jesus up and down) or part of their group they should stop him.

John said to Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, but we told him to stop because he wasn’t in our group.” 39 “Don’t stop him!” Jesus said. “No one who performs a miracle in my name will soon be able to speak evil of me. 40 Anyone who is not against us is for us. Luke 9:49 NLT

That would have been a perfect time for Jesus to talk about a GROUP by claiming since the man didn't belong to His group then he has nothing in Him but no He said "Anyone who is not against us is for us"

Notice: This man didn't even engage in any sort of teaching but just performing miracles in THE NAME of Jesus.

Emusan:

Just see your double lying mouth dancing around.
"THEY DISCOVERED THAT GOD'S KINGDOM WILL BE RESTORED IN 1914" Isn't you who once said "Jesus CAME INVISIBLY"
Then how can Jesus be correcting misconception when the 1st century Christians already know the truth with Bible provided as a guide?

They discovered God's Kingdom will be restored in 1914 and it was so, that's why Jesus came back invisibly after ousting Satan and his demons out of heaven!
The first century Christians knew the truth because Jesus taught them but after his ascension, Satan came to sow weeds in their midst. If you study botany you'll understand that for you farm to sprout well you must uproot the weeds {Matthew 13:24-30} otherwise they will overpower your seeds that's exactly what happened to the TRUTH Jesus laid down back then! That's why he said "when i return, will be i still meet this FAITH?" {Luke 18:8} of course he was contemplating how Satan and his cohorts will turn everything upside down!

The fact that SATAN SOWED WEED in the midst of JESUS' WHEAT shows that there have always been TRUE CHRISTIANS all this while before Russell, if not it won't be in the MIDST OF JESUS' WHEAT but ELIMINATING JESUS' WHEAT.
Who are the JESUS' WHEAT during the time of Russell?
Do they worship Jesus?
Do they claim Jesus died on the cross?

Russell did not fall from the sky, himself and others were the wheat in false religions claiming Christians, that's why Jesus collected them together from different religious groups where they've been serving faithfully under false religions.
Of course their understanding began increasing after Jesus brought them out from Christendom {Revelations 18:4} so Jesus was patient with them as they were willing to accept correction!

This statement has nothing to do with the second coming of Christ
Then who told you all the blunders people have been committing won't be overlooked by the same Jesus again?

John and Jesus declared all those who could see the reforms taking place in their presence yet decided to pitch their tents against it! Matthew 3:7-9 ~ [John the baptist] Matthew 12:31-32 ~ [Jesus Christ]
Note that both of them never condemned anyone for blunders but pigheadedness after seeing the fine works of those having God's backing!


And most importantly, the question you're still dodging is, if Jesus actually came with The Holy Spirit to Russell and his pagan team, why did they died in WRONG TEACHING?
I've answered this so carefully read it again
Jesus' work wasn't meant for just the little group that began the reforms, their part is to set the pace for others coming after them to continue with the reform process, since they switched quickly to the little they're able to grasp, God is pleased with them. Remember that John the baptist laid the groundwork to welcome the Messiah yet he died not knowing all about the truth, otherwise his followers won't need to start asking Jesus questions regarding fasting! Matthew 11:2; Mark 2:18

(1)What is the essence of Jesus teachings when this people still died in wrong belief?
(2)Jesus mission on earth spans a space of just 33 and a half YEARS and within 40days after resurrection Jesus has opened the eyes of His disciples to UNDERSTANDING.
We see the effect in their life not years later but few days.

(1)The essence of Jesus' coming is to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel (humble people who want to worship God acceptably) so the little they're able to grasp is enough all what is required is to obey the last order they knew even if it's just little they'll continue to learn more in Paradise! Luke 23:43
(2) Yes Jesus spent 33 1/2 years and after his resurrection he opens their minds but they didn't grasp everything immediately, that's the work of God's Holy Spirit to continue from where Jesus stopped {John 14:26} so those who died before the Bible book of Revelations was given to Apostle John in the year 96ce missed out in those sacred secrets!

(1)How can there be a misconception when there are already 1st century Christians who are TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST and a Bible for Guidance?
(2)Most important, when Jesus wheat are still abound everywhere?

(1) The misconception is the result of Satan's weeds that overshadowed Jesus' wheat! Matthew 13:24-30
(2) Jesus' wheat has the Bible but due to being outnumbered by the weed they couldn't connect one another until the reforms began when Jesus returned in the spirit! Matthew 13:38-40

It's not the same thing!
1. Yahweh Himself bears witness of Jesus
2. The Holy spirit bears witness of Jesus Christ
3. The Apostles bear witness of Jesus Christ
4. Jesus Himself said "You shall be MY WITNESS"
That's why everything the TRUE WORSHIPPERS OF YAHWEH did are all IN THE NAME OF JESUS because there's no name under heaven given for man to be saved except Christ name!

Let them prove it by making LOVE JOY and PEACE reign in their midst just as Jesus foretold that we'll see in the midst of his own TRUE followers! Matthew 5:13-16 compare to James 2:18-26

What is the essence of REGAIN CHRISTIANITY when the teaching and practice never lost and even when a BOOK for guidance has already available?

If it's not lost Christians won't take up weapons against one another in the name of Politics and Racism {Matthew 26:52 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10, 14:33} that's happening before the reforms Jesus made after 1914!

Emusan:


Just keep deluding yourself!

The disciples found a man performing miracles in Jesus name and the disciples thought since the man wasn't following them (They and Jesus up and down) or part of their group they should stop him.

John said to Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, but we told him to stop because he wasn’t in our group.” 39 “Don’t stop him!” Jesus said. “No one who performs a miracle in my name will soon be able to speak evil of me. 40 Anyone who is not against us is for us. Luke 9:49 NLT

That would have been a perfect time for Jesus to talk about a GROUP by claiming since the man didn't belong to His group then he has nothing in Him but no He said "Anyone who is not against us is for us"

Notice: This man didn't even engage in any sort of teaching but just performing miracles in THE NAME of Jesus.

Are you through with your questions?

One thing that's tormenting you is
you can only ask questions out of a wounded heart, but you can't be the judge at the same time!


Stop hurting yourself, emotional blackmail won't stop us from preaching, teaching and practicing what we believe. I'm only telling you the reason for what i believe, i'm not forcing it on you and neither can you force me to abandon my FAITH.
So if you've got no further questions i'll leave you for now, but have it at the back of your minds that millions are reading what you and i are typing, they'll decide for themselves! Matthew 7:28-29

God bless you!

Emusan:


Just keep deluding yourself!

The disciples found a man performing miracles in Jesus name and the disciples thought since the man wasn't following them (They and Jesus up and down) or part of their group they should stop him.

John said to Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, but we told him to stop because he wasn’t in our group.” 39 “Don’t stop him!” Jesus said. “No one who performs a miracle in my name will soon be able to speak evil of me. 40 Anyone who is not against us is for us. Luke 9:49 NLT

That would have been a perfect time for Jesus to talk about a GROUP by claiming since the man didn't belong to His group then he has nothing in Him but no He said "Anyone who is not against us is for us"

Notice: This man didn't even engage in any sort of teaching but just performing miracles in THE NAME of Jesus.

The remaining question we can ask the group specialist is ...................are every other Christians apart from JWs against the OGA of the group. I don't expect him to respond though because of this below from his post.....

i'm not forcing it on you and neither can you force me to abandon my FAITH.

Emusan:


Tell him to provide you the watchtower publications and Awake magazines Apollos & Priscilla read

In addition to the the interlinear and Greek version of WTBTS publications Apollos, Aquila and Priscilla read

True worshippers rest and keep today, the SHABBAT day holy. Apostates will wait till tomorrow to keep the day of the Sun holy.

Shabbat Shalom.

achorladey:

The remaining question we can ask the group specialist is ...................are every other Christians apart from JWs against the OGA of the group. I don't expect him to respond though because of this below from his post.....

i'm not forcing it on you and neither can you force me to abandon my FAITH.

Before the reforms from 1914 ~ NO
But after the reforms from 1914 ~ YES

Jesus' teachings is all about LOVE, JOY and PEACE amongst servants of God, so any religion that failed to maintain those three but praying for their followers to fight and kill their fellowman is now against Jesus the Prince of Peace!

Emusan:


[s]Just as your deluded organization is confusing you because you don't know your left from your right.
[/s]

1)
But did they still grab His teachings or they all died WITHOUT GRABBING THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS?

You'll never receive sense


2)
So you have Bible as a guidance to know this yet back and forth confusion about Jesus is Michael.

1. Jesus is Michael
2. No! Jesus isn't Michael
3. Yes! Jesus is Michael

Who taught the second wrong teaching "Jesus Himself and the Holy Spirit or Satan?




The few ones who know about it, did they see Jesus IN THE MANNER HE WAS TAKEN UP"?

[s]You can see the confusion I'm talking about[/s]!

Your brother says Jesus second coming is to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel and be teaching/correcting them but you said Jesus is executing JUDGEMENT.

Which is what I even told him that the second coming of Christ is about judgement not teaching or correction.

[s]You can see the person who is giving "expo"

Blind leading the blind[/s]!

1)
Did you kill everyone who was in Russell's Bible study group?
Who told you every follower of Jesus Christ was alive to grab all his teachings?

2)
WAYO man Jesus is Yahweh FRAUD.
John 20:17, Jesus is ascending to meet himself FRAUD man.
Joshua 5:13-15, Jesus is the Angel of his Lord, Yahweh.
Mr LIENUS lacks SENSE, let this word "OF" , reset your brain whenever you here that statement, "Angel OF the Lord,Yahweh".,2Corinthians11:31.
Na Yahweh the angel is working for, Ode.

3) Mr LIENUS no get SENSE.
It will take place in this sequence:
2 Thess1:7-9 , Judgment.
John 5:28-29, Resurrection.
Revelations 5:9,10 , Millennium reign of Christ to correct the resurrected mankind and righteous survivors to perfection.

Maximus69:


Before the reforms from 1914 ~ NO
But after the reforms from 1914 ~ YES

Jesus' teachings is all about LOVE, JOY and PEACE amongst servants of God, so any religion that failed to maintain those three but praying for their followers to fight and kill their fellowman is now against Jesus the Prince of Peace!

Maximus69: Before the reforms from 1914 ~ NO But after the reforms from 1914 ~ YES

Achorladey: scriptural evidence to back the above or I count it as EVERY CHANCE wind of TEACHING you have been taught to accept.

Don't forget that scripture cited was not talking about REFORMS

Then this your NO is as good as saying before RUSSELL was born there were TRUE CHRISTIANS so what is the essence of REFORMS when there are TRUE Christians on ground and they are NOT AGAINST JESUS CHRIST over the centuries before 1914

Maximus69: but praying for their followers to fight and kill their fellowman is now against Jesus the Prince of Peace!

[b]Achorladey: Go and read the verses again and look at the below.......This man didn't even engage in any sort of teaching but just performing miracles in THE NAME of Jesus

achorladey:



Maximus69: Before the reforms from 1914 ~ NO But after the reforms from 1914 ~ YES

Achorladey: scriptural evidence to back the above or I count it as EVERY CHANCE wind of TEACHING you have been taught to accept.

Don't forget that scripture cited was not talking about REFORMS

For your mind, you count what?
Who appointed you judge of Jehovah's people?
gods of men drank tea with God, their triune deity spoke Arabic to them, they claim the year they were born again ,you never ask them for proof of their claims...
Honestly, JWs don't owe you any explanation

Bros, JW matter is not your business.
Mind your business.

Maximus69:

They discovered God's Kingdom will be restored in 1914 and it was so, that's why Jesus came back invisibly after ousting Satan and his demons out of heaven!

I don't even need to go to the fraud of 1914 because it's visible to blind.

The first century Christians knew the truth because Jesus taught them but after his ascension, Satan came to sow weeds in their midst. If you study botany you'll understand that for you farm to sprout well you must uproot the weeds {Matthew 13:24-30} otherwise they will overpower your seeds that's exactly what happened to the TRUTH Jesus laid down back then! That's why he said "when i return, will be i still meet this FAITH?" {Luke 18:8} of course he was contemplating how Satan and his cohorts will turn everything upside down!

I wonder how you people will bring an analogy yet fail to reconcile it with your point. That's pure dullness.

The WHEAT didn't FINALLY eliminate by the WEED this is known by any farmer which means even though there are weeds but it still ABOUND WHEAT among them.

So between the 1st century Christians and the time of Russell, there should be many WHEAT that still remain.

Russell did not fall from the sky, himself and others were the wheat in false religions claiming Christians, that's why Jesus collected them together from different religious groups where they've been serving faithfully under false religions.

So there was not WHEAT before Russell was born.

Then it means the WEED finally eliminated the WHEAT, is that what you read from your own scripture?

Of course their understanding began increasing after Jesus brought them out from Christendom {Revelations 18:4} so Jesus was patient with them as they were willing to accept correction!

How long will it take them for this understanding to be increased?

1. The Bible is already there
2. Holy Spirit as the greatest teacher has already in operation
3. Even adding your lie of Jesus invisibly came to the same people.

So why would they be in this DARKNESS for many years?

What is the essence of Bible, Holy Spirit and Jesus Himself if is still take them years and even died into this wrong teaching?

John and Jesus declared all those who could see the reforms taking place in their presence yet decided to pitch their tents against it! Matthew 3:7-9 ~ [John the baptist] Matthew 12:31-32 ~ [Jesus Christ]
Note that both of them never condemned anyone for blunders but pigheadedness after seeing the fine works of those having God's backing!

You've brought the issue of CONDEMNED again later you'll start twisting your lying mouth.

So how do you think Jesus will now COMDEMN anyone?

And most importantly, the question you're still dodging is, if Jesus actually came with The Holy Spirit to Russell and his pagan team, why did they died in WRONG TEACHING?
I've answered this so carefully read it again
Jesus' work wasn't meant for just the little group that began the reforms, their part is to set the pace for others coming after them to continue with the reform process, since they switched quickly to the little they're able to grasp, God is pleased with them. Remember that John the baptist laid the groundwork to welcome the Messiah yet he died not knowing all about the truth, otherwise his followers won't need to start asking Jesus questions regarding fasting! Matthew 11:2; Mark 2:18

You didn't!

Russell and his pagan team died believing:

1. Worshipping of Jesus Christ is right
2. Jesus died on the Cross
3. They are herald of Jesus

So of what important did Jesus select them if not to change all these wrong teachings?

But alas, Jesus couldn't correct all these but started later, very pathetic!

(1)The essence of Jesus' coming is to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel (humble people who want to worship God acceptably) so the little they're able to grasp is enough all what is required is to obey the last order they knew even if it's just little they'll continue to learn more in Paradise! Luke 23:43
(2) Yes Jesus spent 33 1/2 years and after his resurrection he opens their minds but they didn't grasp everything immediately, that's the work of God's Holy Spirit to continue from where Jesus stopped {John 14:26} so those who died before the Bible book of Revelations was given to Apostle John in the year 96ce missed out in those sacred secrets!

But they know where they can find the quote "lost sheep of the house of Israel" in the Bible but couldn't find that Jesus is not to be worshipped.

Many years before Russell was born, Bible is already in plain English which is the very own Russell tongue.

So tell me, how the truth in the Bible in the 1st century to Russell time difference from now that made you know so much than him despite claiming to be inspired by the Holy Spirit?

(1) The misconception is the result of Satan's weeds that overshadowed Jesus' wheat! Matthew 13:24-30
(2) Jesus' wheat has the Bible but due to being outnumbered by the weed they couldn't connect one another until the reforms began when Jesus returned in the spirit! Matthew 13:38-40

See another bold twisting of the scripture!

Jesus didn't say, the WEED will overshadow the WHEAT but they'll grow together and ON THE LAST DAY, they'll be separated!

So, it's evident that there will always abound a WHEAT.

So how many WHEAT were there before Russell was born?

27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’ 28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed. “‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked. 29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’” NLT

You can see Jesus Himself isn't the HARVESTERS (plural) because Jesus Himself said "He will send His ANGELS to gather all His followers at the four CORNERS of the world"

This is judgement time!

The more you realize the damage wrong watchtower teaching has done to you the easier for you to loose yourself from the pan of yoke.

Let them prove it by making LOVE JOY and PEACE reign in their midst just as Jesus foretold that we'll see in the midst of his own TRUE followers! Matthew 5:13-16 compare to James 2:18-26

And who told you there's no LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst?

Can you provide a video of any gathering of the TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST where they're using chair and table to fight each other?

A statement from my JWs girlfriend "My Aunty died unhappy" why? because of what the organization did to her...

Like I do say, you can keep claiming false love, joy & peace for your organization but the reality is on ground.

If it's not lost Christians won't take up weapons against one another in the name of Politics and Racism {Matthew 26:52 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10, 14:33} that's happening before the reforms Jesus made after 1914!

So you're claiming before 1914 100% of Christians then we're LOST CHRISTIANS and participated in the WAR, POLITICS AND RACISM?

You're just irredeemable liar!

Emusan:


I don't even need to go to the fraud of 1914 because it's visible to blind.




I wonder how you people will bring an analogy yet fail to reconcile it with your point. That's pure dullness.

The WHEAT didn't FINALLY eliminate by the WEED this is known by any farmer which means even though there are weeds but it still ABOUND WHEAT among them.

So between the 1st century Christians and the time of Russell, there should be many WHEAT that still remain.



So there was not WHEAT before Russell was born.

Then it means the WEED finally eliminated the WHEAT, is that what you read from your own scripture?




How long will it take them for this understanding to be increased?

1. The Bible is already there
2. Holy Spirit as the greatest teacher has already in operation
3. Even adding your lie of Jesus invisibly came to the same people.

So why would they be in this DARKNESS for many years?

What is the essence of Bible, Holy Spirit and Jesus Himself if is still take them years and even died into this wrong teaching?



You've brought the issue of CONDEMNED again later you'll start twisting your lying mouth.

So how do you think Jesus will now COMDEMN anyone?




You didn't!

Russell and his pagan team died believing:

1. Worshipping of Jesus Christ is right
2. Jesus died on the Cross
3. They are herald of Jesus

So of what important did Jesus select them if not to change all these wrong teachings?

But alas, Jesus couldn't correct all these but started later, very pathetic!




But they know where they can find the quote "lost sheep of the house of Israel" in the Bible but couldn't find that Jesus is not to be worshipped.

Many years before Russell was born, Bible is already in plain English which is the very own Russell tongue.

So tell me, how the truth in the Bible in the 1st century to Russell time difference from now that made you know so much than him despite claiming to be inspired by the Holy Spirit?



See another bold twisting of the scripture!

Jesus didn't say, the WEED will overshadow the WHEAT but they'll grow together and ON THE LAST DAY, they'll be separated!

So, it's evident that there will always abound a WHEAT.

So how many WHEAT were there before Russell was born?

27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’ 28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed. “‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked. 29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’” NLT

You can see Jesus Himself isn't the HARVESTERS (plural) because Jesus Himself said "He will send His ANGELS to gather all His followers at the four CORNERS of the world"

This is judgement time!

The more you realize the damage wrong watchtower teaching has done to you the easier for you to loose yourself from the pan of yoke.



And who told you there's no LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst?

Can you provide a video of any gathering of the TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST where they're using chair and table to fight each other?

A statement from my JWs girlfriend "My Aunty died unhappy" why? because of what the organization did to her...

Like I do say, you can keep claiming false love, joy & peace for your organization but the reality is on ground.



So you're claiming before 1914 100% of Christians then we're LOST CHRISTIANS and participated in the WAR, POLITICS AND RACISM?

You're just irredeemable liar!

Mr LIENUS doing what he knows best.
Twisting and misrepresentation.
At any point in time, there will be handful of wheat (known only to Jehovah God) but for many centuries there were not organized like Jehovah's servants in the Acts of the Apostles.
In the last days ,Jehovah's servants have experienced rejuvenation as it was in the Acts of the Apostles.

Maximus69:


Are you through with your questions?

One thing that's tormenting you is
you can only ask questions out of a wounded heart, but you can't be the judge at the same time!


Stop hurting yourself, emotional blackmail won't stop us from preaching, teaching and practicing what we believe. I'm only telling you the reason for what i believe, i'm not forcing it on you and neither can you force me to abandon my FAITH.
So if you've got no further questions i'll leave you for now, but have it at the back of your minds that millions are reading what you and i are typing, they'll decide for themselves! Matthew 7:28-29

God bless you!

Imagine, see the frustration of a lost soul!

No wonder you're so restless on Nairaland jumping from thread to thread being tormented.

So if you're not forcing it on people, why so much restlessness in your life?

They'll decide because they know who is twisting the scripture.