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Maximus69:
Are you sure of what you're saying?

My guy stop deceiving yourself, if they're truthfully convinced about the teachings of their respective Churches why are they so confused to the point that they can't agree on codes of conduct, they are even ashamed of their respective Churches due to all the ongoing confusion regarding doctrines!

Stop alluding what's not real. The muslims are one and like-minded.. I can literally enter into any mosque in the world and I will pray (everyone prays the exact same way). Cult groups are one and are like minded, does that make them real?

DappaD:
Since you claim to know the Bible, can you please tell us where the first man Adam is presently? As in explain using scriptures this time.

To put it simply without departing from this thread, First Adam and the Laws in Genesis 1 follows the world at Noah's Time.

Thus, First Adam died Completely and Absolutely exactly as God said he must.

So First Adam got nothing like Life not to even talk of Life buku-buku or Eternal Life or Everlasting Life or Unending Life BASED ON THE LAW IN FORCE AT THAT TIME.

THIS LAW ALSO AFFECTED THE PEOPLE IN NOAH'S TIME And it was ONLY NOAH and his family that escaped it.

The Rains and Flood Completely Washed, Consecrated and Baptised the World, Noah and his family (BAPTISM BY WATER).

Thus, all who came up from the flood was Anew and Fresh and the World too was Fresh Again.

Genesis 9, Shows NEW LAWS WAS ISSUED to the Fresh World (which we are still part of today).

And look closely at those Laws, they Amend and Changed the Laws in Genesis 1.

And it is in consonance to this change of Laws that Eternal Life and Living in Introduced.

Blabbermouth:
Alright. Let's see how they approach it... (I'm not sure many would want to try it out though)

Simplest test of all times for true followers of Christ, it's our heritage to silence all school of thought with the highest power of intellect ever!
Isaiah 54:17
Even ATHEISM and AGNOSTISM will bow in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

Mind you when i say in the name of Jesus Christ i'll not even mention that name before them because they hate it but when all their faculty is brought to nothing and their power of reasoning rendered stupid, they'll be forced to acknowledge that there is wisdom somewhere and ask who is your teacher? that's the time to mention the name above all other names, the greatest man who ever walked this planet,
Jesus of Nazareth! 2Corinthians 10:5

Blabbermouth:
Stop alluding what's not real. The muslims are one and like-minded.. I can literally enter into any mosque in the world and I will pray (everyone prays the exact same way). Cult groups are one and are like minded, does that make them real?

So who told you that Pentecostals, Cele, C&S, MFM, RCCG, Deeper Life, Catholics and others can't enter their Churches anywhere on earth and worship?

Come on my guy! There is only one group on this planet that members can walk to anywhere and expect to be welcomed by strangers who have never seen him before in the name of FAITH :-
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

And i'll tell you why!

This is the only group that can't be torn apart by Politics or Racism, all others will fail to hold on to their FAITH when the test arises!

DappaD:
If you calm down and allow the “power of reason” God bestowed on you to play its role(Romans 12:1)—you'll see the truth in all Maximus69 is saying.
How dare you quote Revelation 21:8 that talks about the “lake of fire” and ignore the rest that says it culminates in a “second death” without a resurrection?

I did not ignore anything it is rather that I truly understand all or at least very many things, which forms the basis of my answer.

And to answer you with respect to this Eternal Living Matter, I very much thank Peggywebbs for saving me much trouble and doing a great job in putting all that I should say to you in Proving the Truth of Eternal Life of Torment, here it is

peggywebbs:
It's not to scare people. It is just simply what it is. Here its in the Bible. You can check.

Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mark 9:43-48 - And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: (Read More...)

Matthew 13:50 - And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Revelation 20:14 - And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

2 Thessalonians 1:9 - Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Psalms 145:20 - The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.

Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Revelation 14:11 - And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Please permit my slight Amendments Peggywebbs!

Curiously, there are 12 Warnings Of This Eternal Torment issued here!

DappaD, I rest my case!

Xmuslim:
Common sense should tell you that one of the barriers I crossed before becoming non religious is the lack of fear of the imaginary hell fire

Shall a man take up hot coals and not be burnt? Shall you see a lion and shall not fear? Shall you not die on your feet when an Earth Moving Caterpillar approach you for to crush you?

You can lie with your lips but you can not lie to the Spirit!

Blabbermouth:
Even "I" cannot stop myself from going to heaven, I fear nothing bro.
I wished there would be no Lake of fire but death for once and death for all that did not believe in the son of God.

I am thankful for the Justice of Lake of Fire and For Such Further Justice that The Lord God May Deem Fit to Make.

For I can not wait for the Day When the Holy and Just Court shall be convened, that I may lay all my grievances Against All that the Wicked and the Evil have done, That The Just Judge will give me My Compensation and My Just Judgment!

And it is the Law that Any who has done these wicked and evil things, is worthy and qualified for Eternal Torment in the Lake of Fire!

Maximus69:
So who told you that Pentecostals, Cele, C&S, MFM, RCCG, Deeper Life, Catholics and others can't enter their Churches anywhere on earth and worship?

You see, that is the foolishness in denominations. A Catholic member in a geography populated with many Cele churches will not be able to enter into the church and worship. Yet if we ask the Catholic, he will say "I'm a Christian"... If we ask the cele, he will say " I'm a Christian"... Yet the two of them cannot fellowship with one another. This is same with a JW member - you Max, if you find yourself in a geography where there are only cele churches, you will never be able to go there to worship. If we ask you now, you will be quick to say "I'm a Christian"... If we ask the celes, they will also claim " I'm a Christian".. Let's be honest, you are all deceiving yourselves, that's not Christianity! All we have are Witnesses, MFM-ites, Celes, Redeemers, and so on... Not "Christians"!
Can you tell me how the first century church operated? Let us learn a thing or two from them.
PS: Islam as a religion fares better (presently)than Christianity when it comes to the structure of each religion. Any Muslim can worship in Any mosque! Any Christian cannot worship in just any church!
Y'all need to go back to the first church and learn how things were done.

Come on my guy! There is only one group on this planet that members can walk to anywhere and expect to be welcomed by strangers who have never seen him before in the name of FAITH :-
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

I don't have to repeat myself. Creating groups and niches under Christianity wasn't Christ's idea. Soon the Lord will move to restructure the church... He will be breaking down all these denomination nonsense and doctrinal differences(I hope He uses me as the spearheader for this)... My dear max, your JW will not be spared.

And i'll tell you why!

This is the only group that can't be torn apart by Politics or Racism, all others will fail to hold on to their FAITH when the test arises!

You wish.

Dtruthspeaker:
I am thankful for the Justice of Lake of Fire and For Such Further Justice that The Lord God May Deem Fit to Make.

For I can not wait for the Day When the Holy and Just Court shall be convened, that I may lay all my grievances Against All that the Wicked and the Evil have done, That The Just Judge will give me My Compensation and My Just Judgment!

And it is the Law that Any who has done these wicked and evil things, is worthy and qualified for Eternal Torment in the Lake of Fire!

You won't have the time to be laying any grievances...

sonmvayina:
We are Gods spirit or breadth dwelling within a physical body fashioned from the dust of the earth.. Why will God send his spirit to hell?.. You don't want to unlearn and relearn..
"send fort your spirit and they are created and replenish the earth, take it and they die and return back to earth.. Psalm 104:29-31..Ecclesiatics 12:7..

if ye are god, then beware of the god-killer!

Blabbermouth:
You won't have the time to be laying any grievances...

Oh did you not read that we should rest a little season until I and my brother appointed to be killed, is done and thereafter, our cries for justice shall be heard? Revelation 6:10 and 11.

Maximus69:
May Jehovah's name be Sanctified for ever and ever, Amen in Jesus name!

The Lord God has Already beaten you to this For He Has Already Glorified His Name Again and Again and Again and Again without your help or asking!

LordReed:
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wetin concern me, I don do my homework now. No be you Teacher go flog and and School go Expell go Lake of Fire?

Blabbermouth:
You see, that is the foolishness in denominations. A Catholic member in a geography populated with many Cele churches will not be able to enter into the church and worship. Yet if we ask the Catholic, he will say "I'm a Christian"... If we ask the cele, he will say " I'm a Christian"... Yet the two of them cannot fellowship with one another. This is same with a JW member - you Max, if you find yourself in a geography where there are only cele churches, you will never be able to go there to worship. If we ask you now, you will be quick to say "I'm a Christian"... If we ask the celes, they will also claim " I'm a Christian".. Let's be honest, you are all deceiving yourselves, that's not Christianity! All we have are Witnesses, MFM-ites, Celes, Redeemers, and so on... Not "Christians"!
Can you tell me how the first century church operated? Let us learn a thing or two from them.
PS: Islam as a religion fares better (presently)than Christianity when it comes to the structure of each religion. Any Muslim can worship in Any mosque! Any Christian cannot worship in just any church!
Y'all need to go back to the first church and learn how things were done.
I don't have to repeat myself. Creating groups and niches under Christianity wasn't Christ's idea. Soon the Lord will move to restructure the church... He will be breaking down all these denomination nonsense and doctrinal differences(I hope He uses me as the spearheader for this)... My dear max, your JW will not be spared.
You wish.

This is where most of you lost the riddle!

So you're expecting them to form one Religion under Christ shey?

Well let me help you out, each group your seeing connotes people worshiping under the influence of an angel including JWs Organization!
JWs are worshiping under the leadership of angel Michael (Jesus) while all others are also worshiping under the leadership of different angels.
The difference is that Jehovah's Witnesses recognises the Mighty Spirit heading the group in the worship of the one and only TRUE God, but all other groups (including atheists) are worshiping Satan under different demons (fallen angels) that's why you'll notice that even while they're claiming worshipers of the same God they still finds it really difficult to practice LOVE, JOY and PEACE amongst themselves!

A Demon makes use of human agent (founder) whom the demon used as it's face to gather people for worship under Satan the Devil.
The demons are highly intelligent so it's not easy to decode their system of operations if you're not one of Jehovah's sheep (individuals who wants to know the one and only group practicing pure worship) as long as you just feel like mixing everything together under God, the demons have gotten you where they want, the next thing is for you to continue shuffling around until you die in one of their false religions. But if you insist on knowing the one and only organization that's worshiping God, many will begin to antagonize you for no reason as if you shouldn't do that, well it's because they're sure your destination is in the midst of JWs if you don't give up!

So my guy your dream will never come true because there is a great chasm between Light and Darkness! Luke 16:26; 2Coronthians 6:14

Blabbermouth:
You won't have the time to be laying any grievances...

I'm still waiting to see any of these Churchgoers who will take up the challenge to prove the one and only God without using any religious book!

Or should i go ahead to prove my own God?

Who will take up this challenge o!

I know the way to test and prove that only Jehovah's Witnesses have the true God without using any religious book!

Blabbermouth:
We both feel the same thing and you ain't guilty of whatever right thing you feel in your mind. The difference is- I trust the creator of my feelings while you trust you trust your feelings. Your feelings can sometimes wrong/mislead you (we both know this to be true) while the creator doesn't come short in any way. Do you see the light now?

There is an answer and you know it... The problem is - you don't want to settle with it.
Have you seen a fake #5,000 note before? No!
Have you seen a fake #10,000 note before? No!
Why? Because the original does not exist!
The fact that you are seeing fake religions and fake gods all around is a proof that the original God exists!( without the original you can't have a fake)
"Does God exist?" is not the big question (it's just a fool's resolve with the mindset of- if I don't believe Him, He can't catch up with me)...
The big question is "With the 4000+ gods we have today, how can we know the real one?"
Maximus69, MuttleyLaff, Righteousness89 and any other interested believer... Can you proffer a simple test by which we can discern who the real God is amidst 4000+ gods? (Bible verses not allowed please)?

Dtruthspeaker:
I am thankful for the Justice of Lake of Fire and For Such Further Justice that The Lord God May Deem Fit to Make.

For I can not wait for the Day When the Holy and Just Court shall be convened, that I may lay all my grievances Against All that the Wicked and the Evil have done, That The Just Judge will give me My Compensation and My Just Judgment!

And it is the Law that Any who has done these wicked and evil things, is worthy and qualified for Eternal Torment in the Lake of Fire!

it will shock you if Allah is more powerful than jehovah. Na hell fire go be your abode be that . Allah will be changing your skin once they burned so that you can feel the pain (as written in the quran) .. Hahahaha.

Religious people never stop amazing me. Your brain has been programmed to believe in nonsensical

LordReed come and see how different denominations are disagreeing despite all claiming to be the true Christian . Wetin musa no go see for gate5

Xmuslim:
LordReed come and see how different denominations are disagreeing despite all claiming to be the true Christian . Wetin musa no go see for gate5

Of course there will surely be great disagreement because there are different spirits leading the groups!

Maximus69:
Of course there will surely be great disagreement because there are different spirits leading the groups!

I would rather go with the agnostic spirit. I prefer to die and rotten rather than believing in what does not make sense to me. Even if there is a resurrection for me, the superior being will acknowledge my intelligent and bravery

Maximus69:
This is where most of you lost the riddle!
So you're expecting them to form one Religion under Christ shey?

Perhaps you should do a deep study on the word "church" and it's origin. Did the Israelites in the wilderness have any denomination whatsoever? No! They were an assembly of the "Called-out ones". Jesus said to Peter -Upon this rock will I build my church Ekklesia and the gates of hell will not prevail...
What is an Ecclesia? It is an assembly of the called-out ones! Are there/should there be any denomination in an ekklesia? God forbid! One baptism, One spirit, One Goal, One Lord and one in all.

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That was puffed up by your fleshy mind.

So my guy your dream will never come true because there is a great chasm between Light and Darkness! Luke 16:26; 2Coronthians 6:14

There is no chasm between light and light. Your years are young, I hope you will be alive to see this spiritual revolution. Again sir, your JW nor anyone's church won't be spared.

Dtruthspeaker:
To put it simply without departing from this thread, First Adam and the Laws in Genesis 1 follows the world at Noah's Time.

Thus, First Adam died Completely and Absolutely exactly as God said he must.

So First Adam got nothing like Life not to even talk of Life buku-buku or Eternal Life or Everlasting Life or Unending Life BASED ON THE LAW IN FORCE AT THAT TIME.

THIS LAW ALSO AFFECTED THE PEOPLE IN NOAH'S TIME And it was ONLY NOAH and his family that escaped it.

The Rains and Flood Completely Washed, Consecrated and Baptised the World, Noah and his family (BAPTISM BY WATER).

Thus, all who came up from the flood was Anew and Fresh and the World too was Fresh Again.

Genesis 9, Shows NEW LAWS WAS ISSUED to the Fresh World (which we are still part of today).

And look closely at those Laws, they Amend and Changed the Laws in Genesis 1.

And it is in consonance to this change of Laws that Eternal Life and Living in Introduced.

You presented irrelevant information that had nothing to do with my question.
Are you saying that God changed his mind as regards to where humans go when they die?
And you've not been able to answer me straightforward—where is Adam now?
Simple!

Maximus69:
I'm still waiting to see any of these Churchgoers who will take up the challenge to prove the one and only God without using any religious book!

Or should i go ahead to prove my own God?

Don't do that yet... If they don't today, I will create a separate thread for it tomorrow. Let's see what people of different doctrines and belief will come up with.

Xmuslim:
it will shock you if Allah is more powerful than jehovah. Na hell fire go be your abode be that . Allah will be changing your skin once they burned so that you can feel the pain (as written in the quran) .. Hahahaha.

Religious people never stop amazing me. Your brain has been programmed to believe in nonsensical

aha, have you not heard that My God is looking for any who can challenge Him or change His work?

Did Allah not hear? Did he answer? Does he not lay silent as though he be dead?

Or alternatively if in some other tongue, the Most Powerful is called Allah, then He shall not be fighting with Himself and His Will of Lake of Fire shall be implemented.

Blabbermouth:
Don't do that yet... If they don't today, I will create a separate thread for it tomorrow. Let's see what people of different doctrines and belief will come up with.

OK!

Blabbermouth:
Perhaps you should do a deep study on the word "church" and it's origin. Did the Israelites in the wilderness have any denomination whatsoever? No! They were an assembly of the "Called-out ones". Jesus said to Peter -Upon this rock will I build my church Ekklesia and the gates of hell will not prevail...
What is an Ecclesia? It is an assembly of the called-out ones! Are there/should there be any denomination in an ekklesia? God forbid! One baptism, One spirit, One Goal, One Lord and one in all.

That was puffed up by your fleshy mind.

There is no chasm between light and light. Your years are young, I hope you will be alive to see this spiritual revolution. Again sir, your JW nor anyone's church won't be spared.

If I'm to understand your plight—you're saying the solution to the confusion prevalent in Christianity today is when all from different churches—Deeper Life, Apostolic, Anglican, Salvation Ministries, Christ Embassy etc—come together and practice interfaith? Even when it's clear they all have different doctrines and beliefs?

Shouldn't the solution rather be to seek out the religion that's doing exactly what Jesus Christ asked Christians to do?
I tell you, Mr Blabbermouth, that problems today CANNOT be solved through individualism but rather collectivism so if you have this mindset of “I don't want to associate with any group, I'll set rules for myself”—somebody not too far off—maybe your neighbour, has the same mindset as yours but will have his own set of rules and beliefs different from yours. So can you see that the problem is neither addressed nor solved? That is, if one decides that all Christian groups are fake and refuses to seek out the true religion.

DappaD:
You presented irrelevant information that had nothing to do with my question.

I have presented relevant information and you can not answer.

DappaD:
Are you saying that God changed his mind as regards to where humans go when they die

See Ojoro question! What was God's mind for the Man (male + female) at the beginning? Was death in the plan?

My answer is No as shown by the words "in the day that you eat it, you shall die" meaning as long as the Man did not eat that fruit, is as long as the Man shall live and when the Man eats that fruit, he shall die!

The Man ate the fruit and the man died!

So "did God change His Mind?"

My answer, there is No Mind that God Needed to Change for it is not He or His Mind Who Changed but the Man is who is Changed!

And therefore, we are lucky and blessed that God is Making a Way to bring us, the Man, back to His Original Plan and Mind since we, the Man have Changed.

Therefore, it is Us, the Man, who is Duty Bound to Change into what God had First Created, if we want!

DappaD:
And you've not been able to answer me straightforward—where is Adam now?
Simple!

I answered you and I told you that First Adam is gone, gone forever and never to be seen or heard from again.

But this is not so for the Man who comes after Adam, Lake of Fire shall be his dwelling place to Live Forever in Torment!

DappaD:
If I'm to understand your plight—you're saying the solution to the confusion prevalent in Christianity today is when all from different churches—Deeper Life, Apostolic, Anglican, Salvation Ministries, Christ Embassy etc—come together and practice interfaith? Even when it's clear they all have different doctrines and beliefs?

Interfaith? No, there is nothing like "interfaith" in an ekklesia structure (Learn from the early Christians)... Have you forgotten that denominations are the reason for doctrinal difference? Do you have a different doctrine from Maximus69 who is a JW just like you? No! Why? You Belong to the same sect. In an Ekklesia, you all belong to Christ- how then can there be any difference in doctrine?

Shouldn't the solution rather be to seek out the religion that's doing exactly what Jesus Christ asked Christians to do?

You guys are not an embodiment of the POWER OF GOD. Jesus said - He that believes in me, greater works than these shall he do***... I hate to be the carrier of a bad news but sorry, you guys are deficient in this department. If I stick with you guys, I won't capture this in my Christian experience.

I tell you, Mr Blabbermouth, that problems today CANNOT
be solved through individualism but rather collectivism so if you have this mindset of “I don't want to associate with any group, I'll set rules for myself”—somebody not too far off—maybe your neighbour, has the same mindset as yours but will have his own set of rules and beliefs different from yours. So can you see that the problem is neither addressed nor solved? That is, if one decides that all Christian groups are fake and refuses to seek out the true religion.

My One-Man-Mopol approach to Christianity is only temporal... Perhaps if the revolution happens in my lifetime, it will be a great Joy to assemble under the unction of one Lord - Christ Jesus.

Blabbermouth:
Perhaps you should do a deep study on the word "church" and it's origin. Did the Israelites in the wilderness have any denomination whatsoever? No! They were an assembly of the "Called-out ones". Jesus said to Peter -Upon this rock will I build my church Ekklesia and the gates of hell will not prevail...
What is an Ecclesia? It is an assembly of the called-out ones! Are there/should there be any denomination in an ekklesia? God forbid! One baptism, One spirit, One Goal, One Lord and one in all.

That was puffed up by your fleshy mind.

There is no chasm between light and light. Your years are young, I hope you will be alive to see this spiritual revolution. Again sir, your JW nor anyone's church won't be spared.

Hmmmmmmmm you're just too presumptuous to the extent you don't meditate on what you're reading before replying!

(1) During the time God was leading the Israelites out of Egypt there was an angel leading them in the name of Jehovah {Exodus 14:19, 32:34} Moses was the human agent that everyone can see but an angel was working with Moses, this angel was a representative of Jehovah! No other angel can come to divide the assembly while that angel is leading them with Moses!
The laws God gave the Israelites was to form a barrier between his own worshipers and the worshipers of Satan under different demons, as long as they keep the regulations of their God they will remain one group.

(2) Before the advent of Christianity the Israelites has been devastated by different demons so they're no more one Organization. Ten tribes of the North were known as "Samaritans" while the remaining TWO Southern tribes were called "Jews". So did Jesus agree that they are all worshiping the same God?
NO!
That's why he could answer a Samaritan woman who asked her a question on this topic saying "You (Samaritans) worship what you do not know, we (Jews) worship what we know salvation is of the Jews" John 4:22
So there has always been demons penetrating pure worship, and when Jesus commissioned Christianity he made it clear that Satan will still do the same thing with his demons. They will enter into the Church and cause confusion but in the endtime Jesus will send his angels to separate his own group out of Satan's worshipers {Matthew 13:24-30} Today Jehovah's Witnesses are standing out because Jesus (Michael) is here invisibly leading his own group and his angels are working with JWs to pick the remaining part of the lost sheep who are still under Satan's agents (Churches of Christendom)

My guy, this are the last moments in the history of mankind the next thing we are expecting now is the destruction of all worshipers of Satan. Then we can be ushered into the new world!

Dtruthspeaker:
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I answered you and I told you that First Adam is gone, gone forever and never to be seen or heard from again.

But this is not so for the Man who comes after Adam, Lake of Fire shall be his dwelling place to Live Forever in Torment!

Let's focus our attention on the bolded/highlighted words.
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So in essence, Adam, being the perfect man that he was, sinned and brought death on all mankind(Romans 5:12)—then he passed off from existence and returned to dust just as God said he would(Genesis 3:19)

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And what is the premise for this assumption? (Given that the lake of fire is different from your mythical “hellfire”)
Adam, the first man who brought death and suffering upon all humans, the worst criminal there can ever be—wasn't subject to this “eternal torment in hellfire” as you claim. Rather he returned to the “dust” of the earth and will remain nonexistent forever.

So why will Adam's descendants that didn't commit that horrendous atrocity of rebelling against God in perfection—suffer “eternal torment” that Adam didn't undergo?
The Bible will speak for itself though—even if you claim otherwise.

Job 10:9
“Remember, please, that you made me out of clay, But now you make me return to dust.”
When Job later died, where did he go to? Wasn't it the same “dust” Adam went too?—a state of total nonexistence?
The case is only different with Job since he is considered to be among the “righteous”—he'll be restored to perfect life on earth (Job 14:14, John 5:28-29, Acts 24:15)
While Adam has been considered unworthy of having perfect life and has since returned to nonexistence and will stay that way. (Proverbs 10:7)

Blabbermouth:
Interfaith? No, there is nothing like "interfaith" in an ekklesia structure (Learn from the early Christians)... Have you forgotten that denominations are the reason for doctrinal difference? Do you have a different doctrine from Maximus69 who is a JW just like you? No! Why? You Belong to the same sect. In an Ekklesia, you all belong to Christ- how then can there be any difference in doctrine?

You guys are not an embodiment of the POWER OF GOD. Jesus said - He that believes in me, greater works than these shall he do***... I hate to be the carrier of a bad news but sorry, you guys are deficient in this department. If I stick with you guys, I won't capture this in my Christian experience.

My One-Man-Mopol approach to Christianity is only temporal... Perhaps if the revolution happens in my lifetime, it will be a great Joy to assemble under the unction of one Lord - Christ Jesus.

Well let me tell you what will soon happen to all the religions in the world today!

ATHEISM will takeover world power and ban all religions, by that time only Jehovah's Witnesses will remain meeting together just as true Christians were doing back then in the first century.
Already, most of the members in churches of Christendom are rebelling against their leaders, soon they will fight their own leaders themselves.
Why do you think most of these commentators are ashamed to mention the name of their Churches?
Well it's because they know that their Church leaders are nothing to write home about. That's why all of them are agitating against JWs since we're solidly behind our own leaders confidently saying everywhere we go.

I'm proudly a JW

Dtruthspeaker:
if ye are god, then beware of the god-killer!

It is the body that was made as an abode for the spirit that you can destroy.. The spirit is God, the real us.. It is indestructible..