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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 7:48pm On Sep 10, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



Someone said lazy youths, I don't know if that is right or wrong

No matter how lazy one is, if you give them a bill of 20k USD for such a service, they will discover the virtues of hard work by force.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:52pm On Sep 10, 2020
Just trying to play devil's advocate.

I don't have pity for people who are scammed.

A ponzi scheme that is very popular on Nairaland and among the youths will find it very difficult to survive another 9 months, the signs are there for those who care to see it

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:55pm On Sep 10, 2020
Cyberknight:


No matter how lazy one is, if you give them a bill of 20k USD for such a service, they will discover the virtues of hard work by force.


They find it difficult to read and task themselves mentally, they always want the easy way out

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by chigo4u: 7:58pm On Sep 10, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
Stocktrader1 was banned by Nairaland, similar thing happened to me about 3 days ago. Something needs to be done about Nairaland anti spam bot.

He said he will be here to clear his name when his bank is over.
I wonder what explaining he needs to do, he should let sleeping dogs lie instead of further embarrassing himself

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 8:18pm On Sep 10, 2020
Strange person having 1 bn naira to invest in tb will be hustling scholarship fees from students ....he suppose to have a foundation to give scholarships..

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 8:22pm On Sep 10, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
Strange person having 1 bn naira to invest in tb will be hustling scholarship fees from students ....he suppose to have a foundation to give scholarships..

At 17%, the risk involved in investing in a frontier market like Nigeria was worth it.
At 3. whatever% it is now, and with CBN's last 5-month delay in providing FPIs foreign exchange, no sane investor from abroad would consider investing any significant amount, let alone the equivalent of 1 billion naira. Their shareholders/investees would have them shot.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pluto09(m): 8:32pm On Sep 10, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
Strange person having 1 bn naira to invest in tb will be hustling scholarship fees from students ....he suppose to have a foundation to give scholarships..


If someone has 1 bn naira and he is still asking those kind of questions, we don't need a seer to tell us that something is fishy.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 8:38pm On Sep 10, 2020
pluto09:



If someone has 1 bn naira and he is still asking those kind of questions, we don't need a seer to tell us that something is fishy.


The signs are all there,we can all see it, just left him to keep on fooling around . But the lady who exposed him should have allowed him to keep on dancing naked for another 2 weeks before the exposure.

I am a pilot.
I export stockfish..
I buy crude oil.
I am a guru in finance and Investment
I want to buy N1 billion worth of Treasury Bills, how can I go about it

That is what I call jack of all trades, master of all

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 8:50pm On Sep 10, 2020
Hmmm, lie detectors are now very alert every where on Nairaland. That's a good development.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:04pm On Sep 10, 2020
freeman67:
Hmmm, lie detectors are now very alert every where on Nairaland. That's a good development.
Easy to identify liarsgrin By their words you shall know them.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:50pm On Sep 10, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
This is breaking news. FG to sell its shares in the 4 refineries.


Definitely the group of investors that will buy essh of the refineries, will invest more than N1 billion.

If they get it right they should make huge profit from the investment.


It's a big slap on Nigeria - no refinery working!

FG has come again to sell federal assets to cronies and make them mega rich the way Nitel, PHCN, etc.were sold out shoddily.

Buhari's regime keeps borrowing and not a single project has been executed - NIGER Bridge, railway project, etc. started by previous governments are still pending. Where are the money sunk?

Hope this is not hate speech?

God bless Naija!

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Tobex4realTobex234(m): 10:01pm On Sep 10, 2020
Chief conglomerate/logobenz ...

Your food don done grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Telsidelake: 12:48am On Sep 11, 2020
Pascopele:
DON'T MY UNCLE IS REGRETTING.

What's happened? What's wrong with CARBON?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Phraences: 1:18am On Sep 11, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
Just trying to play devil's advocate.

I don't have pity for people who are scammed.

A ponzi scheme that is very popular on Nairaland and among the youths will find it very difficult to survive another 9 months, the signs are there for those who care to see it

Lol. It's not their fault really. It's easier to see warning signs when you are on the outside looking in. For those inside, what other sign is there than receiving alert on the regular. 10% per month is more attractive than 10% per year. That's why there will always be ponzi. Subconsciously, everyone wants accelerated progress.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 2:21am On Sep 11, 2020
FBN Quest Asset Management and FBN Private banking all belongs to FBN, FBN Private banking is for FBN priority customers who does not have the time/does not wish to deal with other FBN affiliates.

In other words whatever rate you got at FBN Quest Asset Management you will also get thesame in all FBN affiliates. My RM at FBN Private banking confirmed that MMF rate for September 10th was 4.5%.
emmanuelewumi:



Do you have money market fund Investment with FBN Quest Asset Management?


You can get the right answer from your account officer at FBN Quest Asset Management


I guess what you got from your RM is for a product from First Bank


Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:49am On Sep 11, 2020
XiaoLi:
FBN Quest Asset Management and FBN Private banking all belongs to FBN, FBN Private banking is for FBN priority customers who does not have the time/does not wish to deal with other FBN affiliates.

In other words whatever rate you got at FBN Quest Asset Management you will also get thesame in all FBN affiliates. My RM at FBN Private banking confirmed that MMF rate for September 10th was 4.5%.


FBN Quest Asset Management and FBN Quest Merchant Banks are fully owned subsidiaries who have their own MD/CEO and board of directors. The salaries structures equally varies. They also have different products. That is why information is key.

A customer can have N20 million with FBN earning interest of 2%, while another can have N1 million in an investment products with FBN Asset Management earning 4.5%.


So what rates are you currently getting from First Bank?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 6:29am On Sep 11, 2020
MMF was 4.5% as of yesterday, 3% was what they did through the month though.
emmanuelewumi:



FBN Quest Asset Management and FBN Quest Merchant Banks are fully owned subsidiaries who have their own MD/CEO and board of directors. The salaries structures equally varies. They also have different products. That is why information is key.

A customer can have N20 million with FBN earning interest of 2%, while another can have N1 million in an investment products with FBN Asset Management earning 4.5%.


So what rates are you currently getting from First Bank?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:28am On Sep 11, 2020
Sorry boss 1 billion Naira is just about 2.5m dollars. That’s not a significant amount of money. And believe it or not, there are still foreign investors investing in Nigerian TBills. 4% is always better than 0.5% you will find in the international markets.
Cyberknight:


At 17%, the risk involved in investing in a frontier market like Nigeria was worth it.
At 3. whatever% it is now, and with CBN's last 5-month delay in providing FPIs foreign exchange, no sane investor from abroad would consider investing any significant amount, let alone the equivalent of 1 billion naira. Their shareholders/investees would have them shot.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:31am On Sep 11, 2020
XiaoLi:
FBN Quest Asset Management and FBN Private banking all belongs to FBN, FBN Private banking is for FBN priority customers who does not have the time/does not wish to deal with other FBN affiliates.

In other words whatever rate you got at FBN Quest Asset Management you will also get thesame in all FBN affiliates. My RM at FBN Private banking confirmed that MMF rate for September 10th was 4.5%.
Not true sir. These are different subsidiaries with different investment products.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:38am On Sep 11, 2020
Just playing devil’s advocate here but I didn’t think he was saying he had 1 billion to invest. He was probably trying to see how he could link a European company up and get a commission. All na hustle at the end of the day.
pluto09:



If someone has 1 bn naira and he is still asking those kind of questions, we don't need a seer to tell us that something is fishy.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:50am On Sep 11, 2020
Dangote effect. Even NNPC has accepted that Dangote’s refinery will own the market. Those dead NNPC refineries will not attract serious interest from buyers and will end up like Ajaokuta and Delta Steel wey Naija has been looking to sell since forever. It is the modular refinery guys that have taken huge loans that I really pity. If Dangote’s plant works, nobody can compete. If it doesn’t, then the NNPC refineries will be very attractive for investors.
emmanuelewumi:
This is breaking news. FG to sell its shares in the 4 refineries.


Definitely the group of investors that will buy essh of the refineries, will invest more than N1 billion.

If they get it right they should make huge profit from the investment.

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by talk2tonie: 7:55am On Sep 11, 2020
XiaoLi:
MMF was 4.5% as of yesterday, 3% was what they did through the month though.

FBNQuest MMF has never been 3% at any point through the month, not even through this year. I think the lowest was 4.36% and that was 5th of August 2020.
Use this link to check:
https://fbnquest.com/asset-management/historical-funds/

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:56am On Sep 11, 2020
The buyers of NITEL and PHCN assets are not smiling to the bank o.How could those dead assets make anyone mega rich? Infact most of them are regretting sef after taking huge loans to acquire those assets. Remember Ayeni and Skye Bank grin. The refineries will be the same. Only a dunce will attempt it when Dangote is staking all in his refinery project.
Phylife:


It's a big slap on Nigeria - no refinery working!

FG has come again to sell federal assets to cronies and make them mega rich the way Nitel, PHCN, etc.were sold out shoddily.

Buhari's regime keeps borrowing and not a single project has been executed - NIGER Bridge, railway project, etc. started by previous governments are still pending. Where are the money sunk?

Hope this is not hate speech?

God bless Naija!

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 7:56am On Sep 11, 2020
Lazyyouth4u:
Sorry boss 1 billion Naira is just about 2.5m dollars. That’s not a significant amount of money. And believe it or not, there are still foreign investors investing in Nigerian TBills. 4% is always better than 0.5% you will find in the international markets.

Oh, there very well might be. Like I said, with the blockheads at Goldman Sachs busy talking down the naira exchange rate in the near term (12 month outlook) and fanning the flames of devaluation, with the proven difficulty Nigeria might have in funding forex obligations as external reserves drop and with Moody's having changed its rating to negative for long-term debt and other rating agencies threatening to follow suit, it would take a foreign portfolio investor with nerves of steel to take a one year bet on Nigeria.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 8:42am On Sep 11, 2020
Thanks, I will look into it.
talk2tonie:


FBNQuest MMF has never been 3% at any point through the month, not even through this year. I think the lowest was 4.36% and that was 5th of August 2020.
Use this link to check:
https://fbnquest.com/asset-management/historical-funds/
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TransAtlanticEx(m): 8:58am On Sep 11, 2020
Tobex4realTobex234:
Chief conglomerate/logobenz ...

Your food don done grin
I advise them,them no gree.
Them throway their dollars all on monday,aboki dupe them by using scare tactics to frighten them to bring all their dollars and come and dash them.
Just watch what will happen to the fx markets today by 2pm because of this news grin grin grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 9:05am On Sep 11, 2020
Tobex4realTobex234:
Chief conglomerate/logobenz ...

Your food don done grin

How can the CBN be ordered around by the president like this?

And he will be running pillar to post undecided


God in heaven
Of all countries in the world
You chose to place me in this animal farm lipsrsealed undecided

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TransAtlanticEx(m): 9:10am On Sep 11, 2020
DexterousOne:


How can the CBN be ordered around by the president like this?

And he will be running pillar to post undecided


God in heaven
Of all countries in the world
You chose to place me in this animal farm lipsrsealed undecided
It happens everywhere bros,don't make it a Nigeria thing.
No be trump ban Huawei the other day? undecided
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IamR: 9:21am On Sep 11, 2020
United Capital MMF

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 9:32am On Sep 11, 2020
TransAtlanticEx:
It happens everywhere bros,don't make it a Nigeria thing.
No be trump ban Huawei the other day? undecided

It doesn't


The CBN governor is an independent person

The president cannot be giving him orders

It does not happen anywhere else (maybe in other useless African countries sha)

Trump can NEVER order Jerome Powell to take action


What he can do is to instruct the treasury
That's very different

But Nigeria
Everything jaga jaga and scatter scatter
And the people have normalised the crap
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 9:37am On Sep 11, 2020
Operating cost of $367 million or N154 billion by the 4 refineries eventhough they did not generate any income.


This is not sustainable at all

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 9:42am On Sep 11, 2020
talk2tonie:


FBNQuest MMF has never been 3% at any point through the month, not even through this year. I think the lowest was 4.36% and that was 5th of August 2020.
Use this link to check:
https://fbnquest.com/asset-management/historical-funds/


FBN, FBN Quest Asset Management, FBN Quest Merchant Bank are related but they offer different products and services.


Rather for him to keep on enjoying low returns, he can talk to them at the Investment Banking subsidiary of FBN, ie FBN Quest Merchant Bank to enjoy better opportunities and rates.

With N40 million thereabout he can have an account with them

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