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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by just2endowed: 7:29am On Sep 12, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



It is nearer than expected. I said the bubble will burst in a maximum of 9 months time, with this it will happen in a matter of 4 months


He took pictures with the founder of MBA forex. I guess he is trying to dissociate himself from the fellow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L44WTDwo5a4&t=5s

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TransAtlanticEx(m): 7:38am On Sep 12, 2020
just2endowed:


He took pictures with the founder of MBA forex. I guess he is trying to dissociate himself from the fellow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L44WTDwo5a4&t=5s
I always told people this thing was a ponzi scheme,they say no na forex.
My ex tried to force me into this scheme to the point we broke upundecided
No real business that you don't run personally can pay you 180% PA ,unless its drugs or arms dealing.
Go and commot your money before it's too late.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 8:10am On Sep 12, 2020
just2endowed:


He took pictures with the founder of MBA forex. I guess he is trying to dissociate himself from the fellow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L44WTDwo5a4&t=5s


Thanks for the video.

You don't need to mention names, but it is obvious that the end of the scheme is nearer than expected.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 8:17am On Sep 12, 2020
TransAtlanticEx:
I always told people this thing was a ponzi scheme,they say no na forex.
My ex tried to force me into this scheme to the point we broke upundecided
No real business that you don't run personally can pay you 180% PA ,unless its drugs or arms dealing.
Go and commot your money before it's too late.



It is almost too late ooo.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Enyinne(f): 8:17am On Sep 12, 2020
Did i borrow from u or ur bankers ?why is my affairs ur business? Pls dont mention my name in such quote again. I'm old enough to run my life and my finances
TransAtlanticEx:
You can edit my posts all you lie to suit your stupid agenda,I don't care.
What you think of me really doesn't bother me,you aren't that important to me.
Who is barking?I am just teaching you a thing or 2 kid.
Me frustrated?You want carry wetin pass you ba?lol.
Crude oil is actually my speciality,anytime you get smart enough to talk about it,I'm just a mention away.
Kid go sleep or play with sand for all I care,goodnight,weyrey.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TransAtlanticEx(m): 8:34am On Sep 12, 2020
Enyinne:
Did i borrow from u or ur bankers ?why is my affairs ur business? Pls dont mention my name in such quote again. I'm old enough to run my life and my finances
You will be fine,though times bring down even the best of us wink
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TransAtlanticEx(m): 8:38am On Sep 12, 2020
emmanuelewumi:




It is almost too late ooo.
why do you say so?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 8:47am On Sep 12, 2020
TransAtlanticEx:
why do you say so?


The signs are there, rigourous marketing of scheme, elongation of the duration from 6 months to 12 months.

This video will go viral, the Pastor has a lot of followers and his followers are Investors in some of these schemes.

A ponzi scheme needs new Investors and rollover of dividends to sustain their temporary existence, with this video it will become difficult to get new Investors or rollover of dividends.

Everybody will want to cash out at the same time and that will be the end

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TransAtlanticEx(m): 8:49am On Sep 12, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



The signs are there, rigourous marketing of scheme, elongation of the duration from 6 months to 12 months.

This video will go viral, the Pastor has a lot of followers and his followers are Investors in some of these schemes.

A ponzi scheme needs new Investors and rollover of dividends to sustain their temporary existence, with this video it will become a difficult to get new Investors or rollover of dividends.

Everybody will want to cash out at the same time and that will be the end
True.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 8:58am On Sep 12, 2020
Have you observed that your bank will never advertise fixed deposit or Treasury Bills (during the days of 18%) to their customers. You will have to meet them and make enquiries about such opportunities. Even after making your enquiries they will try to discourage you

Most of the money making opportunities and Investments are top secrets, when money making opportunities are marketed to people we should know we need to be careful

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TransAtlanticEx(m): 9:02am On Sep 12, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
Have you observed that your bank will never advertise fixed deposit or Treasury Bills (during the days of 18%) to their customers. You will have to meet them and make enquiries about such opportunities. Even after making your enquiries they will try to discourage you

Most of the money making opportunities and Investments are top secrets, when money making opportunities are marketed to people we should know we need to be careful

You are very smart.
No human being on earth broadcasts a genuine money spinning opportunity.
They usually stay quiet,until it cast before they start telling you stories about it.
Even yahoo boys no dey give "update" anyhow.
Be guided.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Comeandcollect: 9:17am On Sep 12, 2020
In the end he said the one he knows is Jesus ponzi, what does that mean ?


just2endowed:


He took pictures with the founder of MBA forex. I guess he is trying to dissociate himself from the fellow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L44WTDwo5a4&t=5s
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by juniorrate: 9:22am On Sep 12, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
Have you observed that your bank will never advertise fixed deposit or Treasury Bills (during the days of 18%) to their customers. You will have to meet them and make enquiries about such opportunities. Even after making your enquiries they will try to discourage you

Most of the money making opportunities and Investments are top secrets, when money making opportunities are marketed to people we should know we need to be careful



for the bolded, how did you see Investment-One Vgif been marketed by some here. also some pples were marketing Skye Bank fixed deposit here before they were merged with Polaris Bank
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 9:30am On Sep 12, 2020
juniorrate:



for the bolded, how did you see Investment-One Vgif been marketed by some here. also some pples were marketing Skye Bank fixed deposit here before they were merged with Polaris Bank


VGIF is a SEC regulated investment that currently pays about 8% or thereabout so there is no cause for alarm.
SEC regulated funds have trustees which is different from the fund manager.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Enyinne(f): 9:46am On Sep 12, 2020
And i ask u again , how my problem is ur headache? times can continue to bring u down with ur negative mindset. Your fears hv conquered u hence u want to draw people into ur Negativity. Kindly stay clear of my affairs until ur consulted for financial advice
TransAtlanticEx:
You will be fine,though times bring down even the best of us wink
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IamR: 9:53am On Sep 12, 2020
Comeandcollect:
In the end he said the one he knows is Jesus ponzi, what does that mean ?


He said Jesus scheme
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 10:01am On Sep 12, 2020
Enyinne:
Did i borrow from u or ur bankers ?why is my affairs ur business? Pls dont mention my name in such quote again. I'm old enough to run my life and my finances

Are you same as Lazyyouth4u ? With all those nice curves on you I think u are more than capable to run ur finances. wink
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 10:20am On Sep 12, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



VGIF is a SEC regulated investment that currently pays about 8% or thereabout so there is no cause for alarm.
SEC regulated funds have trustees which is different from the fund manager.


Thank you Sir for that contribution.

Yes currently the Trustees to VGIF is FBNQUEST TRUSTEES hence for those who have read the facts of the funds sheet or invested in the fund you will notice the citibank account number given is always fbnquest Trustees/VGIF as the account name. No money goes out of the account without the knowledge of the Trustees.

Apart from that there is the nominee and of course the custodian bank then the almighty SEC as already pointed out. So go ahead and invest.

It's being marketed because banks and fund managers interest towards customers are almost opposite. While bank wants deposit for investment just for themselves. Fund managers do same for themselves and for their clients.
In reality banks and fund managers have divergence interest when it comes to money with respect to customers/clients.

By the way don't forget to click the link on my signature to open VGIF account for free or contact me for more on VGIF. I will send you my voice notes on how the funds works.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 10:45am On Sep 12, 2020
This is really strange, her first post here was to attack ahib using the lazy yoot personata, but her real ezinne personata has solicited for ahib's help in the past. Conglomerate, na u I go blame for this changing of personata and moniker at will. U have tot people bad thing.
This is so shocking to me o.
Abeg Osy, where u for see her curves, I wan follow crosscheck.
ahiboilandgas:
Lazyyouth4u:

Boss, did you go to a school better than a mushroom university? I always struggle to comprehend your posts because your writing is honestly not the best. I never mentioned it because I assumed you were illiterate to be honest and I didn’t want to sound like I was making fun of an illiterate that was doing well in life. But to see you calling an African University a mushroom school makes me want to know if you even went to a university. If so, please state your alma mater so we can avoid that school.
ositadima1:


Are you same as Lazyyouth4u ? With all those nice curves on you I think u are more than capable to run ur finances. wink

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 10:49am On Sep 12, 2020
You have to understand the difference here, it is not the banks themselves that are marketing it but fund managers who get some sort of commission for each person who invest through them. This is very different from those ponzy schemes.


How come I never heard about this MBA forex sef?
juniorrate:



for the bolded, how did you see Investment-One Vgif been marketed by some here. also some pples were marketing Skye Bank fixed deposit here before they were merged with Polaris Bank
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 10:50am On Sep 12, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



VGIF is a SEC regulated investment that currently pays about 8% or thereabout so there is no cause for alarm.
SEC regulated funds have trustees which is different from the fund manager.

An SEC regulated investment house can lose all your money and you will get nothing from the trustees and fund manager o. Even CBN regulation for banks does not mean that you will get anything over 500,000 Naira if/when the bank goes bust. Other than this 500k guaranteed for any amount (even a 500 million deposit in a Naija bank will get only 500k from NDIC), no other investment or deposit is insured. Nobody should count on SEC regulation as insurance of funds in any investment house o. For Microfinance banks, I think it is only 200k that is insured by NDIC if the MFB goes bust.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:55am On Sep 12, 2020
Lazyyouth4u:

An SEC regulated investment house can lose all your money and you will get nothing from the trustees and fund manager o. Even CBN regulation for banks does not mean that you will get anything over 500,000 Naira if/when the bank goes bust. Other than this 500k guaranteed for any amount (even a 500 million deposit in a Naija bank will get only 500k from NDIC), no other investment or deposit is insured. Nobody should count on SEC regulation as insurance of funds in any investment house o.


That would would have been stated in the features of the fund

Whether it is a money market fund, equity fund, balanced fund, REIT, fixed income fund

VGIF is a blend of money market fund and fixed income fund, so the risk is zero or very minimal. 8% return is quite conservative.


The riskiest is equity fund, you can make 30% and above, you can also lose your capital in the interim

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 10:56am On Sep 12, 2020
Oga I am not that lady. That is your friend mr trans or whatever trying his best to discredit me grin. Anybody that believes me and the lady are the same is surely a very big idiot. I have nothing against mr Ahib and think he’s a great guy but that his post was not in good taste and I said what I had to say. Oga Ahib abeg no vex sir grin
ojesymsym:
This is really strange, her first post here was to attack ahib using the lazy yoot personata, but her real ezinne personata has solicited for ahib's help in the past. Conglomerate, na u I go blame for this changing of personata and moniker at will. U have tot people bad thing.
This is so shocking to me o.
Abeg Osy, where u for see her curves, I wan follow crosscheck.


Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:02am On Sep 12, 2020
The highest you can get from NDIC is 500k if a bank should go under, thank God for CBN that did not allow the like of Union Bank, Oceanic Bank, Intercontinental Bank, Bank PHB, Skye Bank etc to go under.

Rather CBN tookover the banks and allowed other Investors to recapitalized the banks, all most bank CEOs and directors would have preferred insolvent banks to go down than to be taken over by CBN.

Any bank customer with substantial funds should always monitor the financials of such banks.

Alpha Merchant Bank went down more than 20 years ago, depositors are just paid which is maximum of 500k

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 11:06am On Sep 12, 2020
You will have a hard time convincing us otherwise.

This screenshoot between lzyyoot and MrTrans was responded to in the first person by Mrs Ezinne. Truth is, we all have a right to different monikers on nairaland, even the best of us will slip up at some point. But don't be ahib's friend when you wear ezine costume and his enemy when you wear lzyoot costume, we like to know our friends and our enemies, frienemies are too complex to deal with.


Lazyyouth4u:
Oga I am not that lady. That is your friend mr trans or whatever trying his best to discredit me grin. Anybody that believes me and the lady are the same is surely a very big idiot. I have nothing against mr Ahib and think he’s a great guy but that his post was not in good taste and I said what I had to say. Oga Ahib abeg no vex sir grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 11:10am On Sep 12, 2020
In the alternative, have a maximum for each bank account by having many other accounts to reduce exposure and have risk spread.

emmanuelewumi:
The highest you can get from NDIC is 500k if a bank should go under, thank God for CBN that did not allow the like of Union Bank, Oceanic Bank, Intercontinental Bank, Bank PHB, Skye Bank etc to go under.

Rather CBN tookover the banks and allowed other Investors to recapitalized the banks, all most bank CEOs and directors would have preferred insolvent banks to go down than to be taken over by CBN.

Any bank customer with substantial funds should always monitor the financials of such banks.


Alpha Merchant Bank went down more than 20 years ago, depositors are just paid which is maximum of 500k

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by AngelicBeing: 11:13am On Sep 12, 2020
ojesymsym:
You will have a hard time convincing us otherwise.

This screenshoot between lzyyoot and MrTrans was responded to in the first person by Mrs Ezinne. Truth is, we all have a right to different monikers on nairaland, even the best of us will slip up at some point. But don't be ahib's friend when you wear ezine costume and his enemy when you wear lzyoot costume, we like to know our friends and our enemies, frienemies are too complex to deal with.


The hands of Esau but the voice of Jacob wink

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:15am On Sep 12, 2020
ojesymsym:
In the alternative, have a maximum for each bank account by having many other accounts to reduce exposure and have risk spread.



Not necessary, a bank won't go under overnight, the signs will be their minimum of 18 months before it goes down.

CBN is doing a good job about, instead of banks to go down CBN will sack directors of such banks based on distress that can be detected from their financial reports and other signals of insolvency

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:20am On Sep 12, 2020
When was the last time a bank went down in Nigeria and customers lost their deposits?

That was more than 20 years ago, please correct me if I am wrong.

Not referring to Microfinance banks ooo

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 11:26am On Sep 12, 2020
You are right sir, since the bank consolidation by Soludo, no bank has gone under with public funds. The worse that happens is take over.

One of the reasons I take so called experts with theoritical solution's opinion with a pinch of salt is that there was a compelling argument against it then by many financial experts, yet it turned out to be a good thing.
emmanuelewumi:
When was the last time a bank went down in Nigeria and customers lost their deposits?

That was more than 20 years ago, please correct me if I am wrong.

Not referring to Microfinance banks ooo

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 11:27am On Sep 12, 2020
What are those signs to look at for?

emmanuelewumi:



Not necessary, a bank won't go under overnight, the signs will be their minimum of 18 months before it goes down.

CBN is doing a good job about, instead of banks to go down CBN will sack directors of such banks based on distress that can be detected from their financial reports and other signals of insolvency
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:28am On Sep 12, 2020
Sir, I perfectly understand your points below but if you look at the fund documents of any investment fund, it is clearly stated that you can lose all your investments in that fund. Anyone reading your post may think that the trustee guarantees your funds which is actually not the case.A trustee does its best to protect the interests of the investors but it does not guarantee the investments in a fund. If a fund performs badly, an investor can lose all of its funds regardless of SEC regulations or the presence of a trustee.
emmanuelewumi:



That would would have been stated in the features of the fund

Whether it is a money market fund, equity fund, balanced fund, REIT, fixed income fund

VGIF is a blend of money market fund and fixed income fund, so the risk is zero or very minimal. 8% return is quite conservative.


The riskiest is equity fund, you can make 30% and above, you can also lose your capital in the interim

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