Xmuslim:

Jesus is the way bla bla to the end of the verse. Every religion will bring his own claims. What makes you think yours is the correct one?

NeoWanZaeed:


Even in the so called bible.. Although its written by unknown authors.. Its there.. Blasphemy and apostacy is death..

ggirl4real:
I just tire for religious mata for this country.

One thing I'm very sure about is that many people are practicing their current religious beliefs because of the religious backgrounds of their parents.

If they were born into other religions, they would most likely not belong where they are presently, so I don't always understand this claim of religious superiority.

Dtruthspeaker:


In times past, you washed your clothes with your hands and moved from place to place with your feet

Then the washing machine and the car came was brought to you and today, you no longer do those former things.

So it is with the practice of Deference and Reverence to God. You are taught and raised in a way but you learn that there is a Better Way.

Like the washing machine and car you can choose to take it up. And like washing with thy hands and travelling with thy feet, you can choose to hold on to them too.

Dtruthspeaker:


Can a laptop or a phone subject you to its intellect, science and moral tests?

Or shall a primary school student be able to give a valid test to undergraduate?

So also, no man is qualified to test his Greater and his Superior!

ggirl4real:


So which is the better way in this context and how did you arrive at it being the better way?

IMO, your example of washing machine doesn't apply in this context because it has been proven and generally accepted that washing machine is better than manual washing.

With regards to religion, adherents of diverse religious beliefs have been convinced through indoctrination that theirs is superior even without generally accepted proofs.

NeoWanZaeed:


Even in the so called bible.. Although its written by unknown authors.. Its there.. Blasphemy and apostacy is death..

NeoWanZaeed:


Like I said, when you die.. Wa mo how far. Am sure you will remember this moment

Xmuslim:
by your logic, human can use his brain to test scripture. So, how did you know that your Bible is from God and Qur'an is not from God. Answer this question without using your intellect

Dtruthspeaker:


And you said the very words "it has been proven" by others. For their proof was done by Another Person, not you.

You always take up a matter not knowing whether what was proven or promoted is True.

The taste of the jollof rice and chicken, is always in the eating of it!

Dtruthspeaker:


The simplest basis I can provide is that I Saw and Perceived that Only Good things are allowed and permited in this world and Bad/wicked things are condemned and disallowed.

And I saw that the Bible has the Highest and Best Standard of the Measurement of What is Good and Emphatically Promotes the Doing of All Goods with no limit.

And that is on one hand.

At the other, it describes All the Diverse kinds of Bads/Wickedness and Evils that man can do, or has done or is capable of doing, Condemning Them All in Entirety!


The Koran Failed Miserably at this for I have seen that even the wicked people love the Koran but Hate the Bible with their whole soul.

ggirl4real:


I don't understand your response...

If you tell someone who has never heard about or seen a washing machine that there's something like that and go ahead to outline the advantages over manual washing, the person can proceed to get the machine to test if what you said about the machine is true.

When the person confirms that you were right, that is a proof to that person.

ggirl4real:

This cannot be said of religion. Religion is built on 'faith' and not proofs.

CAPSLOCKED:


THIS POST IS UTTER CRAP.
USING THE NAME OF YOUR GOD ALMIGHTY MILLIONS LOST THEIR LIVES ALL OVER THE WORLD. THROUGH FORCEFUL CONVERSION OR FOR BLASPHEMY. MILLIONS OF YOUR ANCESTORS PERISHED FOR THE WHITE MAN'S GOD, AND HERE YOU ARE PUSHING ALL THE BLAME TO THE KORAN AS IF THE BIBLE DOESN'T CONTAIN WORSE.

THE BIBLE IS THE MOST COMPLETE MANUAL FOR EVERYTHING EVIL. IS IT RAPE? HUMAN SACRIFICE? MISOGYNY? MURDER? RITUAL KILLINGS?
WHAT WE HAVE FOR CHRISTIANITY IS PACKAGING BROUGHT BY TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT AND MODERN DEVELOPMENTS. TAKE THESE AWAY AND YOU YOU HAVE THE OLD ELDER BROTHER OF THE EVIL AND BARBARIC ISLAM.

Dtruthspeaker:


Religion always means habits or regular practice.

So the Practice of the Reverence and Deference to God is Actually Based on Knowledge which is Faith and Solid Proofs, not on an idea hanging in space and vacuum, being ungrounded and Unfounded as popularly taught!

ggirl4real:


Please what are the "solid proofs" for religion?

Dtruthspeaker:


Religion always means habits or regular practice.
So the Solid Proof of my Devotion and Love to God as obtained from the Bible is seen in todays Solid Proof that Isreal is there, Egypt is there, The Fulfillment of the Word of the Lord is even here in Nairaland.

Solid Proofs
1) My God said Isreal shall be Scattered, it was so.

2) He said Again that Isreal shall be Put back in place "AND THEY SHALL NEVER BE SCATTERED AGAIN". in 1967 Isreal came back and till today, NO ONE CAN THINK TO REMOVE ISREAL FROM THEIR PLACE!

And we are all Witnesses to the Truth of This.

3) My God said that in the Days Preceding His Judgement Upon the World, Scoffers, scorners, mockers shall rise up to blasphem the Name of the Lord, And here in Nairaland, we have geoworld, OtemAtum, Xmuslim, lordreed, Xavfra and others, there statements here Bulls Eye the Word My God Spoke many many centuries before they were born.

Dtruthspeaker:


Religion always means habits or regular practice.
So the Solid Proof of my Devotion and Love to God as obtained from the Bible is seen in todays Solid Proof that Isreal is there, Egypt is there, The Fulfillment of the Word of the Lord is even here in Nairaland.

Solid Proofs
1) My God said Isreal shall be Scattered, it was so.

2) He said Again that Isreal shall be Put back in place "AND THEY SHALL NEVER BE SCATTERED AGAIN". in 1967 Isreal came back and till today, NO ONE CAN THINK TO REMOVE ISREAL FROM THEIR PLACE!

And we are all Witnesses to the Truth of This.

3) My God said that in the Days Preceding His Judgement Upon the World, Scoffers, scorners, mockers shall rise up to blasphem the Name of the Lord, And here in Nairaland, we have geoworld, OtemAtum, Xmuslim, lordreed, Xavfra and others, there statements here Bulls Eye the Word My God Spoke many many centuries before they were born.

Xavfra:




Bullshit as usual.....your God only remembers to come down when atheists rise against stupidity...

But when his people are suffering he stays in his shell peeping at what is happening

Dtruthspeaker:


3) My God said that in the Days Preceding His Judgement Upon the World, Scoffers, scorners, mockers shall rise up to blaspheme His Holy Name and Self.

And here in Nairaland, we have geoworld, OtemAtum, Xmuslim, lordreed, Xavfra and others, there statements here Bulls Eye the Word My God Spoke many many centuries before they were born.

ggirl4real:


I was not there when the Biblical events happened, I'm very sure you were not there too.

On that note, I can choose to believe or disbelieve those events.

Who knows, maybe some intellectual people gang up to write those stories and set things in place to make them look real. I can't prove that those events happened or not and I'm sure you can't prove either.

That's why I said that Religion is all about BELIEFS, what you Christians called " Faith".

You choose to believe that those events happened. Another person can choose to believe that they didn't happen until they see proves.

None of them is better than the other person because they just choose what to and not to believe.

Dtruthspeaker:


Oh, you are young! 1967 is not far from me, I saw these facts and your Google is in your hand to verify.

Also Nairaland too, is in your hand!

I believe because I Saw and my belief, is My Belief.

You are always free to make yours, without any restriction and I always respect it.

LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! Its like predicting that tomorrow some people shall wake from their beds on the left side and they will have a great day, a completely mundane happening. LMAO!

Dtruthspeaker:


Always the Snake!

From Way before, even before the 1960s, 70s, 80s and part of the 90s, you could not have thought to say the vile things you and your kind say.

It was inconceivable.

But suddenly, your tongues are loosened and all manners of blaspemies excrete out.

But as I have said earlier, this are the days of blasphemies, Exactly As the Lord God Has Said that it Must Come!

So you are only doing your work as Judas Iscariot did his when the time came.

LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! Its like predicting that tomorrow some people shall wake from their beds on the left side and they will have a great day, a completely mundane happening. LMAO!

Dtruthspeaker:


what you do not know is that God Left this world for your father, the'evil and it is he who is running many things now.

Whilst God Settled His Own Children (rapture) before He left, hence, there is No Suffering for Us, your wicked father, the-evil, on the other hand, doeth what he does best, which is to toture and cause his children much pain and suffering and hardship.

ggirl4real:


I was not there when the Biblical events happened, I'm very sure you were not there too.

On that note, I can choose to believe or disbelieve those events.

Who knows, maybe some intellectual people gang up to write those stories and set things in place to make them look real. I can't prove that those events happened or not and I'm sure you can't prove either.

That's why I said that Religion is all about BELIEFS, what you Christians called " Faith".

You choose to believe that those events happened. Another person can choose to believe that they didn't happen until they see proves.

None of them is better than the other person because they just choose what to and not to believe.

ggirl4real:


What fact are you talking about please?

Dtruthspeaker:


The much I will say is that i was raised around diplomatic lines and very very much travelled.

But, I am not the focus here, I only made my point in answer giving my Truest Answer to them, without any plan of changing your mind on the subject.

For me, i am only simply just raising myself to test the Strength of my knowledge and the basis of my belief, if it is Sure as the Bible says or it can be made to fall.

LordReed:


There were atheists even before the 1st book of the bible was written and there'll be atheists long after the last speck of the dust of your corpse has blown away.

ggirl4real:


There's absolutely nothing wrong in believing what you believe.

My own is that it should be for the common good of all.

I look forward to the times when Nigeria will be positively transformed for the best through religion. That's my earnest prayer.

Dtruthspeaker:


I wish it were so but I know that this will never be.

Dtruthspeaker:


I do not contest that for in this world, it is seen that where man is, disobedience, rebellion and all manners of foolishness shall be there also, so no opposition here.