superlightning:


Please to make it clear, D.Freeze is wrong and attention seeking.

However, if a minister swindles, attacks or mocks me in the name of being a minister, he will know that there is a difference between a son of God and a servant of God....I will call him to order and bring him to his knees before the law.

If he attacks the vulnerable or helpless that are dear or related to me, it will take God himself to stop me from slitting his throat by myself. A minister should act like a minister, not an unconverted beast in the guise of being called by God. My actions may be God's judgement to him. It doesn't mean I'm challenging his calling.

Boko haram member v0.8

Touch not my anointed.... and do my prophets no harm.

This quote is soooo misused. On topic... let's chew on this.... who is my anointed? Which one of these pastors was anointed by God? I dare you to name one. Most are self anointed. Didn't the Bible tell us to discern so we can know who is of God and who is false prophet? Instead... anyone that pops up and declare himself anointed... we accept and discern not. Most of these pastors need to be more than touched.... they are false prophets.... clearly shown by their actions.

ggirl4real:
Not just ministers of God. It is very wrong for a younger person to insult an elderly person. Be it Buhari, Oyedepo, Imam, etc.

People should learn to express their opinions without insults.

Religious leaders should not insult anyone too, whether younger or elderly.

All human beings deserve respect.

But when the Bishop said we are cursed for not paying tithe, it's cool ba?


All of them insult in one way or the other. All of them needs to change and stop all this cursing.

Youngzedd:



But when the Bishop said we are cursed for not paying tithe, it's cool ba?


All of them insult in one way or the other. All of them needs to change and stop all this cursing.

Just like you said, all of them need to change.

No individual should insult another human being for any reason. Be it Buhari, Lie Mohammed, Oyedepo, Daddy Freeze, Adeboye, etc. Everyone should learn to express their opinions constructively.

ggirl4real:


Just like you said, all of them need to change.

No individual should insult another human being for any reason. Be it Buhari, Lie Mohammed, Oyedepo, Daddy Freeze, Adeboye, etc. Everyone should learn to express their opinions constructively.

Our white Bishop can curse for Africa. Go to Google, type his name and add curses and see results.


He opened the gate of hell during 2015 election for APC people, yet APC won


Christianity in Nigeria is a joke and this men called GOs made it so.

Youngzedd:


Our white Bishop can curse for Africa. Go to Google, type his name and add curses and see results.


He opened the gate of hell during 2015 election for APC people, yet APC won


Christianity in Nigeria is a joke and this men called GOs made it so.

Pastors are part of the reasons why Christianity is being mocked today all around the world.

If Pastors cannot display Christlike attributes, what would their customers, sorry members, do?

superlightning:


What we shouldn't attack or mock is their CALLING, not their actions. Judgement even begins in the house of God. We ought to correct them with wisdim in love NOT in hate or contempt.

But however, I am not in support of Freeze's attitude. He is an attention seeker

So you want to take God's position to correct the pastor, if judgement is from the house of God so you are the JUDGE. May the Lord Himself teach you to know the Truth.

ggirl4real:


Pastors are part of the reasons why Christianity is being mocked today all around the world.

If Pastors cannot display Christlike attributes, what would their customers, sorry members, do?

Following the footsteps of their papa.


Politicians and Religious leaders are the same.


Same mission of keeping the people under bondage and cash out on them.

petra1:


Judgement, condemnation of another.

I am not impressed

aaking:


So you want to take God's position to correct the pastor, if judgement is from the house of God so you are the JUDGE. May the Lord Himself teach you to know the Truth.

Be weary of any Christian who use this two statements:

1) Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.
2) Don't judge so that you will not be judge"

Anyone who use the above have actually scammed you or working with the person who scammed you. Do not touch my annoited, do you really know the context that was said? Have you not read what Christ himself said in John 7 vs 24?

There's a big difference between judging a Pastor or Priest and exposing false doctrines. Our way of life as Christians is found in the New Testament and that must be our only guidance. Anything outside of that is a false doctrine.

1 Timothy 1:3-4
3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer 4 or to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith.

John 7 vs 24
Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.

Timothy 5:20
But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning.

1 Corinthians 5 vs 12-13
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.

1 Corinthians 6 vs 3
Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

Proverbs 27:5
Better is open rebuke than hidden love.

Galatians 2:11-16
Paul Opposes Peter

11 When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.

14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew.How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

15 “We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in[a] Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

Romans 16 vs 17-18
17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.

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Don't let them scam you or use you, now you have heard what our guidance said above. Avoid them with their false doctrines not found in the New Testament.

Youngzedd:

Be weary of any Christian who use this two statements:

1) Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.
2) Don't judge so that you will not be judge"

Anyone who use the above have actually scammed you or working with the person who scammed you. Do not touch my annoited, do you really know the context that was said? Have you not read what Christ himself said in John 7 vs 24?

There's a big difference between judging a Pastor or Priest and exposing false doctrines. Our way of life as Christians is found in the New Testament and that must be our only guidance. Anything outside of that is a false doctrine.

1 Timothy 1:3-4
3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer 4 or to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith.

John 7 vs 24
Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.

Timothy 5:20
But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning.

1 Corinthians 5 vs 12-13
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.

1 Corinthians 6 vs 3
Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

Proverbs 27:5
Better is open rebuke than hidden love.

Galatians 2:11-16
Paul Opposes Peter

11 When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.

14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew.How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

15 “We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in[a] Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

Romans 16 vs 17-18
17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.

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Don't let them scam you or use you, now you have heard what our guidance said above. Avoid them with their false doctrines not found in the New Testament.

So, The Lord is no more your Shepherd again ps23:5.
So, Gen1:26-28 is no more to you continue .
In( john 2:17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.) The disciples of JESUS Christ remembered the word written in old testament Psalms 69:9.
Pls don't remove or add to the Word of God.

Mko abiola throw away bibles into the sea he never reach his destination. Pls I love you come back to Christ Fully. Visit any complete Bible Teaching Church for edification

petra1:
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God anointed 3 offices in the Bible days . The king ,The priest and The prophet. God gave instructions to have respect for such. And by That we have no right to insult such men
understanding

OP who are the anointed KING, PRIEST AND PROPHET ?.?
Your village KING is a traditionalist �
There are different types of PRIEST,I know of juju priest �
The PROPHET you are talking about some of them use human being for church foundation.

Please take note. God finish his anointing In the bible, God is referring people in this bible days not your self acclaim anointed pastor.

All are called but few are chosen. We are all called to preach the gospel that's why your pastor send you for soul winning.

Use your brain otherwise your pastor will use it to drink garri ���

aaking:



So, The Lord is no more your Shepherd again ps23:5.
So, Gen1:26-28 is no more to you continue .
In( john 2:17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.) The disciples of JESUS Christ remembered the word written in old testament Psalms 69:9.
Pls don't remove or add to the Word of God.

Mko abiola throw away bibles into the sea he never reach his destination. Pls I love you come back to Christ Fully. Visit any complete Bible Teaching Church for edification

So those scriptures are from the book of sango or amadioha?


Who's a Christian?

HRprof:

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OP who are the anointed KING, PRIEST AND PROPHET ?.?
Your village KING is a traditionalist �
There are different types of PRIEST,I know of juju priest �

I don’t get you . Are you a Christian ?

The PROPHET you are talking about some of them use human being for church foundation.

It doesn’t matter there were false prophet in the Bible days too

Please take note. God finish his anointing In the bible,

Wrong, God doesn’t finish his anointing . The Holy Spirit is rather doing greater works now in this generation as the Bible predicted

God is referring people in this bible days not your self acclaim anointed pastor.

God always have men of God in every generation .

All are called but few are chosen. We are all called to preach the gospel that's why your pastor send you for soul winning.

Same thing in the Bible days

aaking:


So you want to take God's position to correct the pastor, if judgement is from the house of God so you are the JUDGE. May the Lord Himself teach you to know the Truth.

Please, try to know how to rightly divide the scripture...or else....don't bother responding.

martineverest:
but Jesus condemned Pharisees stop using old testament to deceive Christians

Jesus was Prophet. I said in my post. A man of God can only be rebuked by God or a senior man of God but not by church members . Kindly read the post again

domino4211:
People like you and Righteousness89 need to be deported to Mali..
You're the ones drawing us back..

Explain . .

Buliwyf:
You modern pastors are clowns. Suit wearing clowns.

I am sure there were people like you saying the same thing when Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees. All of a sudden you whip out bible verses to scare and stop dissent.

First question. Who anointed you? One conman goes and anoints another burgeoning conman and both now claim to be anointed in scamming people and parting them from their money.
It's funny how that anointing never lets you speak up against politicians thieving money and sitting in the front row of your churches and giving you a share of their stolen wealth. Cecelia Ibru before she was caught was gallivanting about with Redeem Church hierarchy and at no time did their anointing tell them to distance from her. Even Pastor Ize Iyamu will claim to also be an anointed man of God. I even hear that Paul Enenche who was shouting about building churches in a recent video was known to go about in different government parastatals praying for civil servants in high positions in Abuja and hustling his own money. Some of them were later caught with their hands in the till. Anointing my ass.

Second question. Why do you think we should criticize politicians and imams but leave your pastors out? So you want to be able to criticise other religious and secular leaders and insult them when they do something you don't agree with but don't want the same to be done to yours? You are a clown

When they insult Buhari they don't remember that elders should be respected. But as soon as their own erring pastors are insulted too they start screaming and playing the respect card. Nonsense.

You’re wrong . Read the Bible . I quoted from it

jaxxy:
Who exactly is or are the ANOINTED?The answer is every believer is. Not any pastor or prophet

That’s what the rebellious Sons of Korah told Moses also.

Numbers 16:3
. . .And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?

God kingdom runs by leadership offices Not democracy . Rebels don’t like authority

Every believer is a pastor/prophet..

1 Corinthians 12:29
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

Hebrews 13:17 (AMPC)
17 Obey your spiritual leaders and submit to them [continually recognizing their authority over you], for they are constantly keeping watch over your souls and guarding your spiritual welfare, as men who will have to render an account [of their trust]. [Do your part to] let them do this with gladness and not with sighing and groaning, for that would not be profitable to you [either].



Kindly do well to study true scriptures . Stop following rebellion .

genkins:


All these from the old expired covenant of the old testament. In the new testament did u not see where Stephen was stoned to death? All the disciples were executed

Prophets were killed by jezebel too .? Persecution By the enemy Is a food for the righteous In every generation . Old and new. We are talking about Christians insulting Men if God . There is no validation for such in the Bible . It’s not a New Testament culture .

Jude 1:8
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Paul apologized to the highpriest after he Had insulted him unknowingly

superlightning:


still a vague response.

Romans 14:4 speaks about downplaying one's calling. A minister is answerable to his master in terms of service (calling) and nobody is downplaying the calling of any minister of God here.

No rather it’s about judging and condemning a mans revelation , intention and conviction . Every man has a reason for his belief

U yet to connect something.



This is one of the interpolations in the bubble to create zombies of members

mannasseh:
Everybody who has given his life to Christ is God's Announced and prophet not just Pastors

Wrong ! God’s principle isn’t the same in every generation . The Kindom of God runs by leadership offices which are to be respected .

1 Corinthians 12:28
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Hebrews 13:17 (AMPC)
17 Obey your spiritual leaders and submit to them [continually recognizing their authority over you], for they are constantly keeping watch over your souls and guarding your spiritual welfare, as men who will have to render an account [of their trust]. [Do your part to] let them do this with gladness and not with sighing and groaning, for that would not be profitable to you [either].

petra1:


That’s what the rebellious Sons of Korah told Moses also.

Numbers 16:3
. . .And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?

God kingdom runs by leadership offices Not democracy . Rebels don’t like authority



1 Corinthians 12:29
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

Hebrews 13:17 (AMPC)
17 Obey your spiritual leaders and submit to them [continually recognizing their authority over you], for they are constantly keeping watch over your souls and guarding your spiritual welfare, as men who will have to render an account [of their trust]. [Do your part to] let them do this with gladness and not with sighing and groaning, for that would not be profitable to you [either].



Kindly do well to study true scriptures . Stop following rebellion .

Rebellion is when u think u know too much and don’t learn. Learning entails asking critical questions. Christians, pastor and leaders shudnt shun people from learn by asking critical questions. Jesus was asked questions and he answered beautifully. Not insulting and threatening people.


This is not the Old Testament sir. Unless u saying Moses is greater than Jesus. In this new dispensation of Christ, things are not done the old way.

Yes anybody can be a prophet, teacher, etc sofar u are willing cos they are gifts from the Holy Spirit which is in all believers.


This gifts shud humble u not make u a terror to other believers. Only God can judge anybody. Judge not the Bible says. Stop ur arrogance and pride.

A pastor is a servant. Jesus served his disciples. Greatness is by humility. Not arrogance.

Ure not talking to a naive person. I’m standing for the truth not religious practices and routines.

Casan0va:

TO THINK THAT HE EVEN MAKES ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COMMENT SAY THE "SHAHADA" BEFORE COMMENTING THERE BUT LEAVES CHRISTIAN THREADS FOR EVERY DISSENTER, ATHEIST, HATER, ANTICHRIST AND THE LIKE TO COMMENT WHATEVER THEY WANT TO


MR SEUN, IT'S BETTER YOU REMOVE THAT STUPID AND MINDLESS RESTRICTION OF MUSLIM THREADS OR YOU PUT IT ON CHRISTIAN THREADS, DON'T ATTRACT CURSES TO YOURSELF

Food for thought

jaxxy:



Rebellion is when u think u know too much and don’t learn

Wrong again . What you're defining is PRIDE not REBELLION. REBELLION rather is taking stand or resistance against authority .

Learning entails asking critical questions. Christians, pastor and leaders shudnt shun people from learn by asking critical questions

.

Nobody shun people from asking question. The bible encourages it. What some of you do rather is insulting and attacking ministers

This is not the Old Testament sir.
Unless u saying Moses is greater than Jesus. In this new dispensation of Christ, things are not done the old way.

Explain what is old testament? The principle of respect,?

Yes anybody can be a prophet, teacher, etc sofar u are willing cos they are gifts from the Holy Spirit which is in all believers.

Wrong! Anybody can't be a prophet . People are called by God into an office . But anyone can prophesy by faith . Prophesying is different from being a Prophet. You have to be called into and office its not a choice

Hebrews 5:4
And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.

This gifts shud humble u not make u a terror to other believers. Only God can judge anybody. Judge not the Bible says. Stop ur arrogance and pride

Explain the pride pls.

A pastor is a servant. Jesus served his disciples. Greatness is by humility. Not arrogance.

Correct

Ure not talking to a naive person

Ok let's see the fruit

I’m standing for the truth not religious practices and routines.

Ok

genkins:


All these from the old expired covenant of the old testament. In the new testament did u not see where Stephen was stoned to death? All the disciples were executed

Principles are forever . Acts 23 which I quoted was not Old Testament

Jude 1:8
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

EMMAUGOH:


Exactly what I reply them last time.. Jesus rebel againt Pharisee authorities because of the people are scared to point thier HYPOCRISY.. But in Nigeria ,either they are too blind to see or they just want false preaching to thrive out of fear

Jesus was prophet . A prophet is an oracle of God . He has authority to pronounce and judge

safetyInspector:
So if a man of God correct you it means that he is judging you or are you a servant of satan?

Correction welcome . Only a man if God can correct a man of God . You point him to scriptures and hear his response . The scripture corrects all. When two men of God see a scripture differently there is no need of insults . Waka go and I waka go . Leave the rest to God who is the judge of every mans heart

Romans 14:4
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

petra1:
It is unscriptural to insult or rebuke ministers of God . A new generation seem to be ingnorant of principles of the scripture and the consequences of violating them which carry curses

Psalms 105:15
Touch not mine anointed,
and do my prophets no harm.

Sometimes in this forum I Have heard some ignorant people say that the verse above is for all Isreal and not men of God . If you think so You must have gotten your Theology upside down. Firstly is the whole of Isreal anointed . Is the whole of Isreal prophets ? That verse was making Reference to Patriacts and prophets Abraham and Isaac Before whom God rebuked Kings for touching their wives .

Psalms 105:14-15
14 He suffered no man to do them wrong:
yea, he reproved kings for their sakes;
15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed,
and do my prophets no harm.

Genesis 26:11
11 And (KING)Abimelech charged all his people, saying, He that toucheth this man or his wife shall surely be put to death.

That explanation should be enough for he wise.

God anointed 3 offices in the Bible days . The king ,The priest and The prophet. God gave instructions to have respect for such. And by That we have no right to insult such men

Exodus 22:28
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.


Remember that this rulers were ministers anointed by God “priest and prophets

The same way today God has annointed ministers over Gods people .

What if a minister do wrong ? That still doesn’t give us the right to curse or insult them . A minister can only be rebuke by God or someone higher than him but not a surbodinate . I will give you 3 instances In scripture .

MOSES
He was the man by who the law came , yet he was the first to brake the law of intermarriage . He married an Ethiopian woman when the wife left him. Aaron and Miriam who were surbodiates Spoke against Moses for his wrong .

Numbers 12:1
1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

God judged them instantly read the rest of the story . Miriam became leprous on this account .

Same things goes for the sons of Korah and elders who stood against Moses for having too much authority claiming that “they are all anointed “

Numbers 16:3
3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?

DAVID AND SAUL

It was evident that Saul was a backsliden King. Even though David had been chose to take over he would not violate scripture principle despite the Fact that Saul wanted to kill him . He had had numerous opportunities to kill Saul but wouldn’t do it because of the anointing upon Saul as head . Especially when his servant Abishai asked David permission to kill Saul

1 Samuel 26:9
9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD's anointed, and be guiltless?

PAUL
Paul once had an incident where the Highpriest ordered him to be slapped . He insulted the highpriest without knowing he was high priest . But when his attention was brought to it , he apologized .

Acts 23:2-5
2 And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth. 3 Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law? 4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest? 5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

These days we have people especially on this Forum insulting ministers . It is error which carry curses . If a minister did wrong against the law let the law handle the matter , if it’s against God , let God handle the matter . But stop putting your mouth especially in things that’ you may even be wrong about in your own limited understanding

When you insult the president of your country, you're respecting an elder. But when you insult a pastor, you're disrespecting your elders.

What fools! Respect kill you dey!!

jmoore:
Touch not my anointed is a verse for manipulation..

That’s what rebel say and That’s an insult to the word of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

These pastors think they have monopoly of wisdom.

So pastors are anointed while the members are not anointed?
See how ridiculous it sounds.
Fact: Every Christian is anointed.You can only threaten babies with 'touch not my anointed'.

God deliver us from a generation losing christian And Bible culture . The Kindom of Hod will always have leadership structure

Hebrews 13:17 (NLT)
17 Obey your spiritual leaders, and do what they say. Their work is to watch over your souls, and they are accountable to God. Give them reason to do this with joy and not with sorrow. That would certainly not be for your benefit

1 Corinthians 12:28 (KJV)
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues..