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ggirl4real:
If you say so

But what about Christians that are struggling to survive despite their devotion to God and endless prayers? Is God happy to see them struggling?

ggirl4real:
Sir, I agree with you that the universe is complex and so well-organized and there must have been a strong force behind it.

My questions:

What is the strong force? According to Christians, it must be God.

Any prove? According to Christians, the Bible says so

What if I the Bible is wrong? According to Christians, you just have to believe since it is the Bible that said it.

I'm not saying God didn't create the universe, I'm only asking for proves which no one has been able to give a convincing answer, even science.

But my only worry is the high level of confidence and conclusion from Christians that their God created the universe even when I'm sure that they were not there.

I'm not an atheist coz I can't prove that God does not exist.

However, if God exists and you communicate with Him and He listens to you, please beg Him to help us in Nigeria. Our country is getting more rotten everyday. At least, if God should provide the needs of all Christians, we'll have less corruption and less to worry about in this country. That's my major concern o.

ggirl4real:
Alright.

Miracle seeking Christians, you don hear? Go and hustle and stop sitting in one place praying and fasting for miracle money you didn't work for to be sent into your account.

eagleonearth:
any argument concerning spiritual things that's not biblically based is none of my business. I grew up also thinking like you till I had a definite personal encounter with the Almighty and believed strongly in the Bible. Genesis chapter 1 describes how God created the world. If you actually believe that there's God then who are you waiting for to prove to you that he saw Him creating the universe. That's an unreasonable thought. The same Bible tells you that the whole world is lying face down in wickedness and this is the reason the country is "rotten" Are Christians the reason the country is in bad shape? What the hell are you even saying? I can cite examples of leading Churches in Nigeria who provide electricity for themselves and their communities, run charity organisations etc. Lybia torn apart by Anarchy, is it a Christian country? Syria still at civil war 5/6 yrs and counting, how about them? You should even be grateful you're from Nigeria because if you were born in Iran and you type all this nonsense on the cyber space insulting Allah or Mohammed, they will sniff you out and execute you but God is love. Don't deceive yourself, seek God's face and you will understand more.

evans4luv:
both of u are super stupid, can u pay 4 d very life u have? And u have d gut to say rubbish with ur mouth, may God have mercy on u both

bukatyne:
No genuine Christian would even pray and fast for a miracle without working.

God will bless the WORKS of our hands. Proverbs also tells us that a DILIGENT servant/worker will serve kings and not mere men.

Even the preachers in the Bible worked. Paul was a tent maker (whatever that means ), Peter was a fishermen and later tanner.

Even Jesus Christ learnt carpentry from his earthly father.

EVERYTHING on this earth operates according to principles and God respects them.

Whatever everyone sows, they will reap.

A Christian's advantage is knowing how to 'hustle' or what to do with minimal effort.

If God tells you what to do and you ignore, He would be looking at you.

MarioKizito1:
I understand you and how you think but I want you to know there is nothing like a Christian God or any other counterpart. There is only one God. Be it Islam, Christianity, Traditional, Buddhism, etc, we are all worshipping one God.

Now I want you to know that success and abundance is for all irrespective of religion or even as an athiest or freethinker.

Jesus died for all. But your redemption ( which happens after death) depends on whether you yield and believe he died for you. To this end, there is no segregation as to who gets blessed or not. All that ended when man lost the garden of Eden ( this a story for another day).

The segregation will start after death, when you have to go to where you deserve according to the account of how you spent your life time as a mortal man.

Call me 09066276692, if you need more explanation. I have being there. At a point in my life I really questioned if God ever existed and all that but today, I can prove 101% God is with us every second of the day. You just have to open up for him.

eagleonearth:
I can show proof from the Bible which is God's word. There in psalms 24:1 it says to us that the whole universe is the Lord's. So everything we enjoy belongs to Him and He alone therefore should be thanked for making them available.

ggirl4real:
This implies that all the Christians who are still suffering are either praying amiss, rebelling, seeking for selfish gains, etc as you listed?

What about those who are not even praying for these things but they have them in abundance?

ggirl4real:
I don't need to call you for explanations because you'll only be telling me what the Bible says.

Please if God answers your prayers, tell Him to reduce the sufferings in Nigeria, at least for Christian families. A loving God should not watch His beloved children suffer.

frank317:
Why then was God promising believers goodies in the Bible. There must be a reason why the name Jesus is powerful right?
God promised healing
He promised protection
He promised health
He said he will open heaven and provide for his followers
He said ask asn it shall be given... If ur early father cannot give u stone when u ask of bread, how much more ur father in heaven.

The Bible went ahead to describe how u are in danger at the mercy of the devil if u are not a follower of christ.

But here u are saying.. And I quote:
Now I want you to know that success and abundance is for all irrespective of religion or even as an athiest or freethinke

When was the Bible edited?

SATANNIST:
softgamer said this and i agree.
nigerian pastors are scammers.

1. when a pastor using the bible to trick you into giving your entire salary as seed with the promise that where it came out from will multiply 10 folds and at the end of the year it never did, then that is yahoo or fraud. STEALING BY TRICKS. and it is punishable under the law and constitution of the federal republic.

2. when a pastor makes u believe that he has stayed for 5 years without visiting the hospital and never got sick because he paid his tithe and sowed a whosky seed for god so god gave him good heath. HE SHOULD BE ARRESTED. this is misinformation and it could actually lead to loss of life.
these pastors live in posh apartments devoid of dirt, flies, mosquito etc. the environment is disinfected regular and they eat very good fruits and food which automatically boost theor immune system. now tell me, how the Bleep wll these scumbags get sick. if they want to proove that they never got sick because of the whosky seed they sowed, let them go to agege or ajegunle or any surburb where their members life and stay in the condition they are without good phone and bad environment and let me see if they will not get sick.

3. when a babalawo tells u that he can do bullet proof for you , he should be arrested. these scumbags have claimed several lives with this stunt.

i could go on and on but i just had to state the major ones.
if you must quote me , make sure u are talking sense, dont come telling me shit like THE BIBLE SAID THIS OR THAT. when those bookd where written, the situation was not like now.

people are also asking me to talk same about moslems and imams. personally i dont see why i should talk abut them as regards scam, i dont see them asking for seeds, offering etc, i dont see them driving rolls rolyce and private jets with people money. i can go on and on. so tell me why should i talk about them? if it was violence, then i will list them first. guys like i said, dont talk rubbsh if u dont have valid points

ggirl4real:
This implies that all the Christians who are still suffering are either praying amiss, rebelling, seeking for selfish gains, etc as you listed?

What about those who are not even praying for these things but they have them in abundance?

evans4luv:
both of u are super stupid, can u pay 4 d very life u have? And u have d gut to say rubbish with ur mouth, may God have mercy on u both

Reeda45:
Giving thanks to God should be one of the easiest things to do, but it is an act many actually forget to do.

We remember God when we need Him to do something for us. And when we get what we want, we forget to go back to appreciate Him.

Just like the 10 lepers who were healed by Jesus on his way to a village close to Galilee. Only one returned to thank Jesus. Only one.

To think he wasn’t even a Jew. One of God’s own people. He was a Samaritan. A reject. He could have walked away like the other nine. But he chose to remember and appreciate the source of his healing.

I wonder how Jesus would have felt about the ungrateful nine, knowing well beforehand that they wouldn’t return, and yet, he still chose to heal them.

I wonder how He feels every time He does something for us and we don’t even say ‘thank you’; yet, every time we go back to him again, He still answers us.

What a loving father he is!

But that doesn’t mean we should take His love for granted. Especially when He does seemingly ‘little’ things for us.

Some people only remember to thank God when big things happen in their lives, like the birth of a baby, promotion at work, getting a new car, buying a house or even passing an exam.

Those things that people feel are big achievements in life.

But when the little miracles occur, they don’t consider it a testimony of God’s goodness.

Paul knew the importance of Thanksgiving, and that was why he admonished believers to give thanks to God in “everything”

“In everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.” 1 Thessalonians 5:18

“Everything” means both the big and small blessings.

So what are these ‘little’ things we forget to thank God for every day?

Let’s dig in!

1. For the breath in your nostrils
That you are alive every passing day is one of the greatest miracles of life. Remember, only the living can praise the Lord.

2. For the food you eat (and sometimes waste)
If you know the millions of people wanting to be in your shoe, you will thank God for that slice of bread or snack you are about to consume.

3. For good health
A visit to the hospital will teach you to appreciate God for the sound mind and body you are enjoying right now.

4. For having a family
Some people don’t have anyone to love or love them in return. They don’t have anybody to call family. But you do.

See, your family members may be annoying at times, and sometimes, you just want to knock their teeth out. But they still love you and are there for you when you need them. Being alone in this world is not something you will like to experience.

5. For good friends
Yes. You should thank God for giving you great friends who have your back, especially when going through difficult times.

6. For your church
The church is a community of people knitted together by the love of Christ. If you are part of a church, you get to enjoy a sweet fellowship that keeps your innerman happy and satisfied. Remember to thank God you are part of His people.

7. For the challenges you face
Now, this may sound creepy. Why should I thank God when I’m in problem? See, if everything is rosy in life, you will not even remember there is a God in Heaven. God allows obstacles in your life to strengthen you and remind you that you are not alone. He is there with you all the way. Remember, He will not allow you to pass through temptation (challenges) you cannot overcome. He is only preparing you for a better future; so thank Him!

8. For divine protection
That you go out and return safely to your home everyday is a miracle on its own. And it’s not by your own hand. If you know the number of accidents that happen every day, eh! on the same road you take, you will appreciate God more.

9. For a glorious future
“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future” (Jeremiah 29:11)

Need I say more?

10. For your redemption and eternal life

Many Christians are waiting for God to do a ‘big’ miracle in their lives, forgetting that God has already done the greatest miracle of all – the sacrifice of His son. And that is why we can call him ‘Father’. Always remember to thank God for redeeming you from sin and giving you the hope of eternal life.

To conclude, Colossians 3:16-17 teaches us how to give thanks to God.

“Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts. And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.”

What are you grateful to God for today?

Source - https://www.redigionng.com/2020/09/12/10-little-things-we-forget-to-thank-god-for-every-day/

bukatyne:
No genuine Christian would even pray and fast for a miracle without working.

God will bless the WORKS of our hands. Proverbs also tells us that a DILIGENT servant/worker will serve kings and not mere men.

Even the preachers in the Bible worked. Paul was a tent maker (whatever that means ), Peter was a fishermen and later tanner.

Even Jesus Christ learnt carpentry from his earthly father.

EVERYTHING on this earth operates according to principles and God respects them.

Whatever everyone sows, they will reap.

A Christian's advantage is knowing how to 'hustle' or what to do with minimal effort.

If God tells you what to do and you ignore, He would be looking at you.

frank317:
LOL... The twist will continue... Christians suffer because they prayed amiss, but unbelievers suffer because they don't worship God.

Christians enjoy because they prayed in accordance with God's will, unbelievers enjoy because God provides for everyone...

And the confusion continues

obinna58:
You were making sense until the final statement

ggirl4real:
If that makes you happy, I'm fine with that.

I can only advise you to learn to express your opinions without insults.

Don't get all emotional when someone holds opinions contrary to yours.

I'm not a Christian but I will like to be and that will be only when I see religion bringing about a positive turn around in this country.

I'm yet to see that.

Just emulate the life of Christ if you are a Christian. That's what is important for you.

Stop throwing insults around. It doesn't stop Non-Christians from asking questions or holding different opinions.

Peace!!

ggirl4real:
Christians and emotions. Na wa for una o...

You've made so many assumptions about me even when you don't know me.

I know you guys can go to any length to defend your beliefs but can't you guys really do that without insults?

Anyway, let me point out some of your errors:

(a) You talked about me being wretched in "higher wisdom". Whatever that means. The question I asked is based on the reality on ground. I'm a human not spirit so I view things from the realistic aspect. I think I have a right to do so. I'm not breaking any law in the Nigerian constitution.

(b) You assumed that I don't believe in a " supreme power". Did I tell you that?

(c) You said I serve a "tiny god". Please which one is that? Where does he live?

(d) Finally, I still maintain that if God is all-powerful, no christian should suffer, whether lazy or not. Be sincere, if your father is the richest in the universe, will you still have to suffer and strive?

Please, you can express your opinions but try to avoid insults but if you still feel that you have to throw insults to drive home your point, I'm sorry because I won't know how to reply you with insult and your insults won't make " unbelievers" to stop asking questions.

sunshineV:
music is a sin to allah
your god loves good music. 2 different gods. not the same

DuBLINGreenb:
Good morning Una done chop?

Nairaland done comot signatures my days on Nairaland are soon coming to an end e no sweet again

ggirl4real:
I don't understand why we should thank God for all these things.

Aside from number 10 (which is just a mindset), how sure are we that it is "God" that make these things possible?

If He's the one, I think all atheists and free thinkers should be denied these things.

Since everyone has access to these things you've mentioned, I don't see why we should thank God for them.

As a matter of fact, I'm very sure that there are many Christians who are struggling to access these things. Some die in the process while some free thinkers are still enjoying full access. Whose fault is this?

Reeda45:
Giving thanks to God should be one of the easiest things to do, but it is an act many actually forget to do.

We remember God when we need Him to do something for us. And when we get what we want, we forget to go back to appreciate Him.

Just like the 10 lepers who were healed by Jesus on his way to a village close to Galilee. Only one returned to thank Jesus. Only one.

To think he wasn’t even a Jew. One of God’s own people. He was a Samaritan. A reject. He could have walked away like the other nine. But he chose to remember and appreciate the source of his healing.

I wonder how Jesus would have felt about the ungrateful nine, knowing well beforehand that they wouldn’t return, and yet, he still chose to heal them.

I wonder how He feels every time He does something for us and we don’t even say ‘thank you’; yet, every time we go back to him again, He still answers us.

What a loving father he is!

But that doesn’t mean we should take His love for granted. Especially when He does seemingly ‘little’ things for us.

Some people only remember to thank God when big things happen in their lives, like the birth of a baby, promotion at work, getting a new car, buying a house or even passing an exam.

Those things that people feel are big achievements in life.

But when the little miracles occur, they don’t consider it a testimony of God’s goodness.

Paul knew the importance of Thanksgiving, and that was why he admonished believers to give thanks to God in “everything”

“In everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.” 1 Thessalonians 5:18

“Everything” means both the big and small blessings.

So what are these ‘little’ things we forget to thank God for every day?

Let’s dig in!

1. For the breath in your nostrils
That you are alive every passing day is one of the greatest miracles of life. Remember, only the living can praise the Lord.

2. For the food you eat (and sometimes waste)
If you know the millions of people wanting to be in your shoe, you will thank God for that slice of bread or snack you are about to consume.

3. For good health
A visit to the hospital will teach you to appreciate God for the sound mind and body you are enjoying right now.

4. For having a family
Some people don’t have anyone to love or love them in return. They don’t have anybody to call family. But you do.

See, your family members may be annoying at times, and sometimes, you just want to knock their teeth out. But they still love you and are there for you when you need them. Being alone in this world is not something you will like to experience.

5. For good friends
Yes. You should thank God for giving you great friends who have your back, especially when going through difficult times.

6. For your church
The church is a community of people knitted together by the love of Christ. If you are part of a church, you get to enjoy a sweet fellowship that keeps your innerman happy and satisfied. Remember to thank God you are part of His people.

7. For the challenges you face
Now, this may sound creepy. Why should I thank God when I’m in problem? See, if everything is rosy in life, you will not even remember there is a God in Heaven. God allows obstacles in your life to strengthen you and remind you that you are not alone. He is there with you all the way. Remember, He will not allow you to pass through temptation (challenges) you cannot overcome. He is only preparing you for a better future; so thank Him!

8. For divine protection
That you go out and return safely to your home everyday is a miracle on its own. And it’s not by your own hand. If you know the number of accidents that happen every day, eh! on the same road you take, you will appreciate God more.

9. For a glorious future
“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future” (Jeremiah 29:11)

Need I say more?

10. For your redemption and eternal life

Many Christians are waiting for God to do a ‘big’ miracle in their lives, forgetting that God has already done the greatest miracle of all – the sacrifice of His son. And that is why we can call him ‘Father’. Always remember to thank God for redeeming you from sin and giving you the hope of eternal life.

To conclude, Colossians 3:16-17 teaches us how to give thanks to God.

“Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts. And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.”

What are you grateful to God for today?

Source - https://www.redigionng.com/2020/09/12/10-little-things-we-forget-to-thank-god-for-every-day/

ggirl4real:
Why can't you Christians express yourselves without insults? Why is it so difficult?

You said you had a personal encounter with God, fine.

I don't have mine yet.

Until I have, then I'll keep reasoning the way I want to reason.

By the way, I don't think I'm commiting any crime by choosing to be irreligious.

You Christians should understand that this country does not belong to you alone. Everyone can't believe in the Bible nor be Christians. It is not by force.

Learn to do your Christianity and stop hating or insulting those who hold opposing views. I'm not the cause of Nigeria's numerous problems.

frank317:
If he is capable of giving us all the goodies, why are people suffering? Even Christians. Yet when a Christians suffers misfortune u say its temptation, perhaps the God that gives everything was sleeping