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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:42am On Sep 15, 2020
Neobulletzz:

Na lie grin

Proof grin

You dey mind am.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:54am On Sep 15, 2020
Starboytwo:
i dont know what you call talent, but we really do have talented young u12 to u17 players scattered all over the country.... Im sure nigeria u17 will spell england u17 in a match....

You perceive the matter as being CONTENTIOUS but why

England and Nigeria are not in contention.

You have completely gone into a path not in discussion.

Let me remind you, core question, why do Nigerian "exceptionally talented youth players" fade away and or don't in commensurate numbers progress to higher levels of the game.

And your response is U17 Nigeria will beat England U17.

I explained my definition of talent and the limitations of so called talent without nurturing and development.

I did not add the issues of age cheating at youth level as a factor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:57am On Sep 15, 2020
Philosopher1979:


We dont rate onachu (including me) but he is benching dessers who we rate higher. Football can be funny
More headache for Rohr
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:03am On Sep 15, 2020
Starboytwo:
i dont know what you call talent, but we really do have talented young u12 to u17 players scattered all over the country.... Im sure nigeria u17 will spell england u17 in a match....

grin
The pedigree is there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 11:04am On Sep 15, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Everyone judging iwobi future just because he isn’t in match day squad due to fitness issue ,just for the 1st game

But we have many players that such has happened to but we didn’t judge their future

I feel iwobi is not that loved

@Andy He's not love by many YES but definitely not Me..

As for Me, I'm not just ok with Udeze asking Him to leave Everton
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:09am On Sep 15, 2020
Starboytwo:
i dont know what you call talent, but we really do have talented young u12 to u17 players scattered all over the country.... Im sure nigeria u17 will spell england u17 in a match....

I like to hear this because it is the pure truth. If u are not from West Africa or Brazil u can't talk to me about U17. Cus u might be good once in a blue moon but we are good all seasons. Imagine our last set making the second round of the world cup and still get looked at as failures. A lot of countries would be proud of that result.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 11:11am On Sep 15, 2020
MetalJigsaw:
Is he that good enough?
Is he confident enough?

These are the issues.

Good enough YES
Confident enough maybe NO
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:20am On Sep 15, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Everyone judging iwobi future just because he isn’t in match day squad due to fitness issue ,just for the 1st game

But we have many players that such has happened to but we didn’t judge their future

I feel iwobi is not that loved

All our players get that. When u are not playing these things happen. Iheanacho has dealt with this for 3 seasons now. Balogun, Osimhen, Nwakali even Chukwueze.

I think it is more a popularity thing. More people check for these players so when they are not available everybody notices.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:23am On Sep 15, 2020
BascoVanVeli:


All our players get that. When u are not playing these things happen. Iheanacho has dealt with this for 3 seasons now. Balogun, Osimhen, Nwakali even Chukwueze.

I think it is more a popularity thing. More people check for these players so when they are not available everybody notices.

At least we know nacho was struggling for some time then

But judging iwobi just because he isnt on the match day squad doesnt make any sense, and to make it worst iwobi wasnt fit ,if iwobi is fit and he hasnt make everyon match day squad for 7 games then thats the time we should be afraid

Many people here just follow the bandwagon .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by dymusty86: 11:23am On Sep 15, 2020
komekn:



What do you call talent?

For me talent is potential yet to be realised that needs to be nurtured and developed to become exceptional.

I have talked about the training regime in a lot of the top academies. Kick and rush has been buried and cremated in Englands top football academies it's now about the technical ability merged with athleticism.

Most indeed the larger majority of Nigerian youth players will seem very good in Nigeria. But on arrival in Europe will find huge gaps in their football education. As a consequence they will be lacking in technical ability, game strategy and management as well as decision making.

This is why after doing so well at youth level they just seem to fade away not attaining the higher levels in football.

In addition they end up playing youth football in the academy just to get up to the standard required.

With your proposition in the bold. How do you explain Ademola, Oviemuno, among others scouted at U17 but dropped as not being good enough. Within months they were playing first team football.

You could add Eze to that scouted but dropped.

Then all are remembered when they blow.

We can not get away from our DNA corruption it touches every facet of life in Nigeria. If there is a way to manipulate a situation for pecuniary benefits we will definitely take it. The NFF is not exempt.



They just didn't measure up to the rest that time(or other factors like that of ejaria that took excuse himself because of his education)just like some other 9ja born that later work hard and now doing better than those ones picked e.g ejuke, awaziem, terrim, etc.

More so, if the like of yakubu Alfa, osikel, Raphael ademola, etc had the same platform like ovie, ademola lookman and others, l believe they will be balling well than them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:25am On Sep 15, 2020
Tessyy1701:


@Andy He's not love by many YES but definitely not Me..

As for Me, I'm not just ok with Udeze asking Him to leave Everton

Leave all these former internationals

Many of them are jealous of our current young players

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:28am On Sep 15, 2020
andrewbaba44:


At least we know nacho was struggling for some time then

But judging iwobi just because he isnt on the match day squad doesnt make any sense, and to make it worst iwobi wasnt fit ,if iwobi is fit and he hasnt make everyon match day squad for 7 games then thats the time we should be afraid

Many people here just follow the bandwagon .
You are missing the gist!
Ancelloti is trying to build his own team at Everton, and there's a possibility that Iwobi may not be part of it... Making the match day squad is one thing, playing games is another..
This has nothing to do with love or hate..just the truth! ..Iwobi is terribly inconsistent! ..that has been his biggest undoing! .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:29am On Sep 15, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Leave all these former internationals

Many of them are jealous of our current young players

The bolded is laughable, considering the fact that most of our current players can't measure up to the level of our ex internationals...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:41am On Sep 15, 2020
Danielnino00:


The bolded is laughable, considering the fact that most of our current players can't measure up to the level of our ex internationals...

Its not laughable danny

Our current young set of players do have a very bright future and its clear

I am not talking about kanu ,okocha and co

What has udeze and co even achieved in football self , which better club did they even played for ?

Leave matter bros
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:42am On Sep 15, 2020
Danielnino00:

You are missing the gist!
Ancelloti is trying to build his own team at Everton, and there's a possibility that Iwobi may not be part of it... Making the match day squad is one thing, playing games is another..
This has nothing to do with love or hate..just the truth! ..Iwobi is terribly inconsistent! ..that has been his biggest undoing! .


I agree iwobi is inconsistent

We dey observe, we dont need to jump into conclusion just like that
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:44am On Sep 15, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Its not laughable danny

Our current young set of players do have a very bright future and its clear

I am not talking about kanu ,okocha and co

What has udeze and co even achieved in football self , which better club did they even played for ?

Leave matter bros

You said "many of our ex international", so I assume you are reffering to Okocha, Kanu and co too...

Udeze just gave out an advice...it's not like Iwobi would be compelled to follow it.. undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:46am On Sep 15, 2020
Danielnino00:


You said "many of our ex international", so I assume you are reffering to Okocha, Kanu and co too...

Udeze just gave out an advice...it's not like Iwobi would be compelled to follow it.. undecided

Maybe I shouldn’t have said many

It’s an advice thou ,but I see am in a different way sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:53am On Sep 15, 2020
andrewbaba44:


I agree iwobi is inconsistent

We dey observe, we dont need to jump into conclusion just like that

I don't think anybody is jumping into conclusions....
The situation on ground doesn't look favourable for him...that's the truth!

Ancelloti apparently isn't done with transfers yet....There are rumors that he wants Lozano and Lemar..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:54am On Sep 15, 2020
andrewbaba44:


At least we know nacho was struggling for some time then

But judging iwobi just because he isnt on the match day squad doesnt make any sense, and to make it worst iwobi wasnt fit ,if iwobi is fit and he hasnt make everyon match day squad for 7 games then thats the time we should be afraid

Many people here just follow the bandwagon .


A whole season also counts as a while for Alex and add that to the new signings. So when u don't make the match day squad it is obvious to hear concern.

I personally think he will soon be out of there. Crystal Palace is a likely destination, been hearing whispers of a Zaha swap(maybe 40m + Iwobi). Palace just signed another winger for 20m so that deal might just be on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:56am On Sep 15, 2020
feelme2020:


You have a point. At youth level it will be hard for foreign born players because we really have talented players that do well at that level and so the need for reinforcements is not that strong. The problem is these boys fade away at the senior level and do a Rabiu Ibrahim for us and then the foreign born have a chance. The 2007 u17 was a total waste of talent and next to that is the 2013 u17. Only a few of them (maybe 5) are still relevant.
I wonder why our youth players are not impressive at a senior level. It bothers me a lot




it's not peculiar to us alone, it's a general issue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 11:57am On Sep 15, 2020
Dude was below average in his forward passing, good in closing up but short on confidence in that role
Ndidi needs to start working on zipping passes on the grass unlike the uncomfortable passes he made mostly in that match.
He was not grossly exposed cuz he met a sloppy opposition

nairalandankrah:

Do we think Ndidi performed well enough as a centre back? He looked shakey to me.
Who else watched the game

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:03pm On Sep 15, 2020
Danielnino00:


I don't think anybody is jumping into conclusions....
The situation on ground doesn't look favourable for him...that's the truth!

Ancelloti apparently isn't done with transfers yet....There are rumors that he wants Lozano and Lemar..

Lozano and lemar ?

Mogbe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 12:13pm On Sep 15, 2020
komekn:


You perceive the matter as being CONTENTIOUS but why

England and Nigeria are not in contention.

You have completely gone into a path not in discussion.

Let me remind you, core question, why do Nigerian "exceptionally talented youth players" fade away and or don't in commensurate numbers progress to higher levels of the game.

And your response is U17 Nigeria will beat England U17.

I explained my definition of talent and the limitations of so called talent without nurturing and development.

I did not add the issues of age cheating at youth level as a factor.

It's not a Nigerian thing.

Many excellent youth players of other nationalities fail to impress at a higher level.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:37pm On Sep 15, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Maybe I shouldn’t have said many

It’s an advice thou ,but I see am in a different way sha


Well... I feel those calling for his change of club feel he's too important in our national team to b sitting on d bench in a mid level club...dt shows aw relevant he's in our national team,cos he's d only viable AM We av @ d moment...if it were to b a player who's not dt important to our national team set up,nobody would av advised such..a player like Mikel agu for example.

Having said dt... We Nigerians hate competition.. I would implore iwobi to stay and fight for his place rada Dan moving away from d challenge cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 1:04pm On Sep 15, 2020
elunico:


It's not a Nigerian thing.

Many excellent youth players of other nationalities fail to impress at a higher level.

Quick example: Sinama Pongole of France
Dominic Solanke cheesy grin
Mosquito of Brazil
They plenty
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:22pm On Sep 15, 2020
Naija Players expected/likely to be in action across Europe today - Sept.15

UCL Third Qualifying Round

Chuba Akpom, Anderson Esiti (PAOK Saloniki) vs SL Benfica - Home game.

Kelvin Arase (Rapid Wien) vs KAA Gent - Away game.


English (Carabao) League Cup - 2nd Round

Tom Dele-Bashiru, **Isaac Success (Watford) vs Oxford - Away game.

Ovie Ejaria, Michael Akpovie Olise, Sone Aluko (Reading FC) vs Luton Town - Home game.

Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace) vs AFC Bournemouth - Away game.

Nnamdi Ofoborh (AFC Bournemouth) vs Crystal Palace - Home game.

Dominic Iorfa Jnr, Moses Odubajo, Osaze Urghoghide (Sheffield Wednesday) vs Rochdale - Away game.


Norwegian 1.Div - OBOS Ligaen

Ifeanyi Matthew, Moses Ebiye (Lillestrom SK) vs Tromsø - Away game.


Club Friendlies

Sebastian Osigwe (FC Lugano) vs Inter Milan

**Saturday Keigo Erimuya (Cadiz) vs Atletico Madrid






Bonus:

Asia - AFC Champions League: Group stage

Ahmed Musa (Al Nassr) vs Sepahan

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:36pm On Sep 15, 2020
nelszx:


Quick example: Sinama Pongole of France
Dominic Solanke cheesy grin
Mosquito of Brazil
They plenty

Amd all those bunch of players from Mexico..

IMO, our lack of good football infrastructure is one of the major reasons why a lot of our u-17s waste away...

After every u-17 tournament,greedy agents will be lining up to snatch the players to get them deals in Europe that would mostly end up benefiting them and not the players..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:41pm On Sep 15, 2020
Stephen Odey won a penalty for his team on his debut.

2:29



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvY_DuUw5l4

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 1:41pm On Sep 15, 2020
Danielnino00:


Amd all those bunch of players from Mexico..

IMO, our lack of good football infrastructure is one of the major reasons why a lot of our u-17s waste away...

After every u-17 tournament,greedy agents will be lining up to snatch the players to get them deals in Europe that would mostly end up benefiting them and not the players..

Things are changing. I believe that the 2019 under17 set will make it. Allready olakunle olusegun is scoring goals in denmark. I think some reforms are being made in the area of agents. Samson Tijani was caught up in Agent problems but he overcame it and went to red bull in a fantastic deal. Things are definately improving
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:51pm On Sep 15, 2020
Onuachu and Dessers' penalties.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6kbPzvKelE
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:20pm On Sep 15, 2020
see this life sha Mephis who didn't live up to expectations now a Barcelona player. If it was our resident "english football expert" he would have said Mephis is finished, a flop since he can't cut it in the EPL. LOL!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 2:21pm On Sep 15, 2020
Osimhen benched for Napoli opener
18 hours ago

Gennaro Gattuso will reportedly leave Victor Osimhen on the bench to begin with in Napoli’s Serie A season opener with Parma.

The coach was expected to test out his starting XI during a friendly against Sporting CP last night, but that was cancelled at the last minute after the Portuguese team had several COVID-19 positive tests.

According to Radio Kiss Kiss, Napoli will initially leave record-breaking signing Osimhen on the bench against Parma on Sunday.

Instead, it will be a classic 4-3-3 formation with Dries Mertens flanked by Matteo Politano and Lorenzo Insigne.

Osimhen requires more of a 4-2-3-1 system with more players fanning out in support of the Nigerian striker.


https://m.allfootballapp.com/amp/news/Serie-A/Osimhen-benched-for-Napoli-opener/2439195

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