₦airaland Forum

swtdrms:
You see all of you Yoruba Muslim who are just Muslim by name and understands next to nothing about ISLAM, do you now see how you're disgrace to ISLAM and yourself?

Look at the way she has described you, it better you kuku leave the fold and let's know clearly where you belong.

Misterdhee1:
Trash. Almost every single act up north does not comform with Islamic tenets. Hatred for education, laziness, al-majiri, violence, rape, lack of regard to human lives, non-tolerance to opposite religious views, disrespect to female folks, poverty, drug abuse and many more. And mind you, God (Allah) has always been a factor in Yorubaland even before the advent of Islam and Christianity, so you can't possibly expect Yorubas to blindly practice religion with the kind of conservatism you guys show up there.. Perhaps that explains the huge difference in growth and development between the two regions.

drlateef:
You must be out of your senses.

swtdrms:
How is there hatred for education in the north? There have been learned scholars of northern extraction, and there are countless of them from time immemorial, lazines, how do you define laziness? From my little experience, farming is one of the hardess job out there, and the highest participation in farming is from the north, Al - Majiri has been a tradition that has produced some the finest models in the north, i'll agree it doesn't fit into the present generation, it has to either be abolished or reformed. No doubt about that. Non-tolerance to opposite religious view, is relative, because i've seen many christian denominations that have been in existence for over five decades, Poverty is every where, Drug abuse is also everywhere.

Anyway, all these are not enough to say an average Northern muslim doesn't adhere more to Islam unlike the average Yoruba Muslim. Check out these points. Like i've said earlier, i'm not absolving them from all kind of attrocities going on there. If you take closer look, you'll find that those attrocities exist everywhere.

1) As muslims, five daily prayers comes first. In the north, majority observe their five daily prayers, in the south, it's only the committed ones. Infact you can count many of the so called yoruba muslims where you'll never seen going to pray.
2) Absolute Believe in Allah, not associating partners with Him. In the North, it comes easy. In the Yoruba circles, Majority of Yoruba Muslims believe more in their jazz/voodoo than they have faith in Allah

I can continue but these two points is enough to start with, Societal evils exist every where, it could be more in the north on some cases no doubt.

Both the Northern Muslims and Yoruba Muslims need to be chastised towards sticking to Islam. The focus of today is to the Yoruba Muslim who has eschew everything about Islam from his life except his muslim name and still want to be viewed as the Standard for Islam. No way!

kilonshele101:
You actually knows nothing.

Misterdhee1:
How's an average northerner a standard for Islam? Anyone can decide to observe five daily prayers - yes, it's a must for Muslims, but Islam itself is a meant to promote a unique total way of life. Most of the ills I mentioned earlier are norms in Northern Nigeria. You can deny it as much as you want to, or even try to play them down, but they are facts and are not in sync with Islamic tenets. Most of the hatred for Islam are based on the perception of Islamic practice up north. The larger percentage of Northern Muslims do not make Islam attractive to non-believers due to their archaic, conservative ways. If praying five times daily and believing in the Holy prophet do not make you a better person all round, then you can't lay claim to being a true Muslim. Islam can be practiced without necessarily being close-minded to societal standards.

Skynet45:
we are the most accommodating ethnic group in Nigeria, but the flat head and ndi developers are spoiling our land

They is nothing like Yoruba Muslims we are all Yoruba first . Flat heads created Yoruba Muslims nickname to divide us but it won't work.

Obodogri:
o ṣeun mr mọ gbogbo rẹ

swtdrms:
Brother you never touched all the points i raised, you only picked up the Daily Prayers, and you never dispute the fact that an average Northerner doesn't play with this unlike their Yoruba counterpart. Which means u agree with me on that. Ok look at the sayings of the prophet which say "The difference between a muslim and a Kaafir is Salat" and another which says "The first thing to be check on the day of Judgement is Salat", and other one which says "Salat is a pillar of the Deen, whoever leaves it has left the Deen"


Bring stronger points to tackle me with, If you're blind to it, i'm re-writing it again, i'm not absolving the North of their excesses and deficiencies which they have which in moral and other aspects of societal values, One topic at a time. This is to the Yoruba Muslim folks!

swtdrms:
You see all of you Yoruba Muslim who are just Muslim by name and understands next to nothing about ISLAM, do you now see how you're disgrace to ISLAM and yourself?

Look at the way she has described you, it better you kuku leave the fold and let's know clearly where you belong.

ThatFairGuy1:
Shut your mouth you Terrorist. No segregation in Yorubaland

richie240:
Kindly expantiate d bolded.
Tnx

jaybenugo:
https://lifestyle.thecable.ng/i-married-a-yoruba-muslim-in-1984-onyeka-onwenu-breaks-silence/

swtdrms:
You see all of you Yoruba Muslim who are just Muslim by name and understands next to nothing about ISLAM, do you now see how you're disgrace to ISLAM and yourself?

Look at the way she has described you, it better you kuku leave the fold and let's know clearly where you belong.

swtdrms:
Olodo, what type of Islam is UAE (Dubai) practicing that you're all ready to run to, what about Qatar, Turkey, Malaysia your people are rushing to. These are country that are genuine with their islam, know what they're doing and keep to the standard.

Your hatred will only make you see the negative examples and not the positive ones.

Grandmeister:
Mock Mohamed in front of a Yoruba Muslim and then do same in front of an Hausa Muslim and your doubts will be cleared instantly.

gasparpisciotta:
I really don’t understand op’s intention by the ‘Yoruba Muslim’ definition of a Nigerian.

Onyeka Onwenu could as well have married an Hausa or Ibo man.

After all Ned Nwoko is not defined/described by his religion.

Dreambeat:
She did not say she married a ' Yoruba Muslim' in the context used by some Nairalanders, she only said she married a Yoruba man who was a muslim at the time they got married.

kilonshele101:
still doesn't prove anything

wink2015:
THE WORD YORUBA MUSLIMS became prominent because of their influencial role in the federal government of Nigeria both positively and negatively.

From the governmental perspectives, Yoruba muslims ( quite a sizeable number of them ) have been subjugating SOUTHERN UNITY and solidarity in favour of their friends in the core north with whom they share religious connection and that has been setting Nigeria "s drive towards a restructured state quite very frustrating.

BECAUSE OF RELIGION, yoruba muslims are betraying their fellow southerner to the northerners.

The northerners have rewarded these group of yoruba muslims with positions in the federal government, federal parastatals, the security agencies etc.

INFACT, NO GOVERNMENT COMES INTO PLAY IN NIGERIA WITHOUT A SIGNIFICANT YORUBA MUSLIMS INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT.

IT CAN BE REASON THAT ONE OF THE CRITERIA FOR GETTING A HIGH LEVEL POLITICAL POSITIONS OR NON POLITICAL POSITIONS FROM A NORTHERNER IS THAT YOU MUST BE A YORUBA MUSLIMS.

Even federal government contracts that is managed by a northern political leaders also silently put that clause as one the major criteria for giving jobs to a contractor.

In conclusion, yoruba muslims particularly from the SOUTH WEST have not yet shaken off their SLAVERY MENTALITY towards the core north.

WHEN THE SOUTH WANT TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE, the yoruba muslims comes in with their factor to water down the whole process.

It is also on record that it was the Yoruba muslims of the South West that connived with the core north to bring down the government of President Jonathan.

heendrix:
What is Yoruba Muslim? is that a particular Race to

heendrix:
What is Yoruba Muslim? is that a particular Race to

Misterdhee1:
You're the one that didn't read my last response explicitly. Yes, 5 times daily prayer is undoubtedly one of key pillars of Islam - and as you rightly said, Northern Muslims do that better than their Yoruba counterparts. But Islam itself is much more than that, it is a totality of life. You can't be a Muslim observing five daily prayers and yet be violent, have no respect for human lives, be intelorant to non-believers, disrespect your women, promote poverty and Inequality, cherrypick who to prosecute using sharia laws, and many other ills that are characteristics of northern Nigeria. So, judging by these, northern Nigeria can't be a standard for Islam because most of those ills that are norms up there are against the tenets of Islam. Moreover, Islam is a personal thing - your connection with Almighty Allah and how that makes you a better human being. It's not just about praying five times daily. For every one yoruba Muslim that doesn't pray five times daily, there are several others that do. Allah hates hypocrites. So, the idea of Northern Muslims being better than yoruba Muslims is silly..