Emusan:


Olodo....

My answer to that is very simple and from the scripture!

The person who says "I AM THE ONE" is Yahweh

O ma se o
Yahweh get Father ?

BlueAngel444:
yes there are times I lie, for I am no god but I am no fool to ignore my errors neither am I arrogant as to become ignorant by my own pride. I say in my heart that their is a God but there are things you say that fails to reveal the truth.

There is no man who is after God's heart that will approve you when you are wrong but you prefer to stand in your wrong even when you are corrected. is that as a result of your self righteous pride that causes you to justify yourself even when in error. Dont you undermine others instead of clarifying others in the spirit of love and unity.

Lol, you are what you what and I need not add to that.

You think you're not arrogant, yet you believe that because someone doesn't listen to you when you give a wrong advice makes him proud?

What are you making of yourself?

Maybe I should have taken your foolish advice to please you, so you won't say i'm proud.

You said I should read something wrong over and over and over again because it made sense to you?

I have never said such to someone here because I believe everyone has the right to choose what to read, yet i'm the one who's proud.

That's why I don't use the opinion of men to measure myself but that of God, because it's what God says of someone that would matter at the end.

Acehart:


Barrister, the word “with“ in English language means accompany(ing). If you look at the Greek Bible, you would see this order:

1. The Christ gives the command.
2. The Archangel raises his voice.
3. The Trumpet of God is sounded.

This is the reason I asked you if you knew the meaning of “with”. Paraphrasing that verse according to the intention of the writer, it is:
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with an order, accompanied by the proclamation of the archangel and then the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

You asked if I am happy by the knowledge of this? Of course. I hoped you would have been happier than me.

You are damned confused. so when number 2 happens .... the dead Rises , whose voice raised them ??

true2god:
Who will decend with the sound of the trumpet of God according to 1Thes 4:16?

The same person that will descend with at Arch angels voice . It's funny it's only the voice that will descend not the arch angel right ?

jesusjnr2020:
You think you're not arrogant, yet you believe that because someone doesn't listen to you when you give a wrong advice makes him proud?

What are you making of yourself?

Maybe I should have taken your foolish advice to please you, so you won't say i'm proud.

You said I should read something wrong over and over and over again because it made sense to you?

I have never said such to someone here because I believe everyone has the right to choose what to read, yet i'm the one who's proud.

That's why I don't use the opinion of men to measure myself but that of God, because it's what God says of someone that would matter at the end.

ha haha ROTFL is that you're still carrying in your mind

I am not the one that told you to listen to me

Are you saying you're not proud , and you have written like you know it far more than anyone can

First at least measure what you say with truth of God's word and correct understanding of scripture.

BlueAngel444:
ha haha ROTFL is that you're still carrying in your mind

I am not the one that told you to listen to me

Are you saying you're not proud , and you have written like you know it far more than anyone can

[b]First at least measure what you say with truth of God's word and correct understanding of scripture./b]

There you go again still trying to impose your opinion on others, yet you're not arrogant.

It appears you've been wasting my responses so far, so no more.

Bye.

jesusjnr2020:


There you go again still trying to impose your opinion on others, yet you're not arrogant.

It appears you've been wasting my responses so far, so no more.

Bye.

nahh, that's an advice which I hope u ignore and pay the price for

You probably realize now I am not like the people you constantly want to attack

Barristter07:


You are damned confused. so when number 2 happens .... the dead Rises , whose voice raised them ??

Maybe I am confused. But I leave you with these definitions (in pictures).

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with an order, accompanied by the proclamation of the archangel and then the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

YES!

Abeg no be Acehart be this for the screenshot below?
Abi my eye don dey turn me so

DappaD:
Abeg no be Acehart be this for the screenshot below?
Abi my eye don dey turn me so

Yes, it is I. That was my view for the last few years. But I am not stagnant. I studied to know the truth and this is the truth: Michael isn’t Jesus.

DappaD:

Abeg no be Acehart be this for the screenshot below?
Abi my eye don dey turn me so

Their problem is not what they believe, but what they want to believe!
So since JWs disagree with them on recognition as worshipers of our God, they're tormented badly and the next thing is looking for ways to condemn JWs, they're prepared to swallow their excrement if that's what it takes to blackmail JWs!

Acehart:


Yes, it is I. That was my view for the last few years. But I am not stagnant. I studied to know the truth and this is the truth: Michael isn’t Jesus.

So wait for the result of other people's study too!

Acehart:

Yes, it is I. That was my view for the last few years. But I am not stagnant. I studied to know the truth and this is the truth: Michael isn’t Jesus.

No problem—everybody has his or her own free will to express. So whether you're stagnant oo or you're moving oo is not my wahala.

So far—nothing has changed from the Scriptures that Jesus is the archangel Michael—in his heavenly position.

I just see this as a desperate attempt to draw JW's out and argue vehemently with them.
But at the end of the day, nothing will be achieved because there's absolutely nothing JW's can learn from you concerning the Scriptures.

MaxInDHouse:


So wait for the result of other people's study too!

Yes!

Acehart:


Yes!

Good boy!

MaxInDHouse:


Their problem is not what they believe, but what they want to believe!
So since JWs disagree with them on recognition as worshipers of our God, they're tormented badly and the next thing is looking for ways to condemn JWs, they're prepared to swallow their excrement if that's what it takes to blackmail JWs!

My brother, a great chasm has truly been fixed between Jehovah's Witnesses and spiritually thirsty religious zealots—Luke 16:26

DappaD:


No problem—everybody has his or her own free will to express. So whether you're stagnant oo or you're moving oo is not my wahala.

So far—nothing has changed from the Scriptures that Jesus is the archangel Michael—in his heavenly position.

I just see this as a desperate attempt to draw JW's out and argue vehemently with them.
But at the end of the day, nothing will be achieved because there's absolutely nothing JW's can learn from you concerning the Scriptures.

Do you see this as a desperate attempt to draw the JWs out? Well, that’s not my aim. Though the JWs are always spoilt for arguments, I’m not inclined to arguments and wouldn’t enjoy the sport of drawing anyone out for an argument. In the end, whether one believes Jesus is Michael or not, Salvation is of Christ Jesus alone: Only those who believe in Christ Jesus would have eternal life.

Acehart:


Do you see this as a desperate attempt to draw the JWs out? Well, that’s not my aim. Though the JWs are always spoilt for arguments, I’m not inclined to arguments and wouldn’t enjoy the sport of drawing anyone out for an argument. In the end, whether one believes Jesus is Michael or not, Salvation is of Christ Jesus alone: Only those who believe in Christ Jesus would have eternal life.

Yes I know
Even the demons that believe God and Jesus exist will have eternal life, abi no be so? —James 2:19

DappaD:


Yes I know
Even the demons that believe God and Jesus exist will have eternal life, abi no be so? —James 2:19

The verse says the devils believe that God is one and not what you are writing up there to insult me!

Acehart:

The verse says the devils believe that God is one and not what you are writing up there to insult me.

No no no—my intention wasn't and never is to insult anyone. I'm just trying to draw parallels here.
If you say you believe in Jesus, there's no problem. I'm not trying to make you feel out of place.

Indeed, “Jehovah knows those who belong to him”—2Timothy 2:19
So if Satan and the demons believe that God and Jesus exist, then there has to be a criteria someone must meet to be approved of God. That's all I'm saying.

DappaD:


No no no—my intention wasn't and never is to insult anyone. I'm just trying to draw parallels here.
If you say you believe in Jesus, there's no problem. I'm not trying to make you feel out of place.

Indeed, “Jehovah knows those who belong to him”—2Timothy 2:19
So if Satan and the demons believe that God and Jesus exist, then there has t[b]o be a criteria someone must meet to be approved of God.[/b] That's all I'm saying.

Can you mention the criterion?

elated177:


Can you mention the criterion?

Simply put, the criteria is found in the Bible!

That's why most people have this “Yeah, I believe in Jesus but I don't have any regard for the Bible and what the Bible says doesn't define me” attitude.

A person who truly wants to worship the true God must agree 100% with the Bible as His inspired Word(2Timothy 3:16) and live his life in direct accordance with Bible standards.(Psalm 119:105)

DappaD:


No no no—my intention wasn't and never is to insult anyone. I'm just trying to draw parallels here.
If you say you believe in Jesus, there's no problem. I'm not trying to make you feel out of place.

Indeed, “Jehovah knows those who belong to him”—2Timothy 2:19
So if Satan and the demons believe that God and Jesus exist, then there has to be a criteria someone must meet to be approved of God. That's all I'm saying.

Praise the Lord!

DappaD:


Simply put, the criteria is found in the Bible!

That's why most people have this “Yeah, I believe in Jesus but I don't have any regard for the Bible and what the Bible says doesn't define me” attitude.

A person who truly wants to worship the true God must agree 100% with the Bible as His inspired Word(2Timothy 3:16) and live his life in direct accordance with Bible standards.(Psalm 119:105)

Dude, you set the premise of question.

What is the relevance of this assertion: "That's why most people have this [b]“Yeah, I believe in Jesus but I don't have any regard for the Bible and what the Bible says doesn't define me” attitude. "[/b]?

What are the Scriptural standards?

elated177:


Dude, you set the premise of question.
What is the relevance of this assertion: "That's why most people have this [b]“Yeah, I believe in Jesus but I don't have any regard for the Bible and what the Bible says doesn't define me” attitude. "[/b]?
What are the Scriptural standards?

The Bible should be able to reflect in the person's thinking(Colossians 3:7-10), way of life(1Peter 1:16), style of worship(John 4:24), dealings with other human beings(Matthew 7:12, 22:39) and so much more.

‘What are Scriptural standards?’ is a rather broad question. Try narrowing it down to one single aspect.

Acehart:


Praise the Lord!

You mean Lord Baelish from Game of Thrones?

Barristter07:
O ma se o Yahweh get Father ?

Yes Ooo ma se fun ee oo
You people didn't address that verse but throwing tantrums.
Did YAHWEH say "I YAHWEH, searches mind and heart?
Did Jesus in Revelation say "I AM THE ONE searching mind and heart"?
Even primary school pupils will understand that simple English.

DappaD:


The Bible should be able to reflect in the person's thinking(Colossians 3:7-10), way of life(1Peter 1:16), style of worship(John 4:24), dealings with other human beings(Matthew 7:12, 22:39) and so much more.

‘What are Scriptural standards?’ is a rather broad question. Try narrowing it down to one single aspect.

Don't just give quotations. Why don't you highlight them?


Is it because I used "Scriptural"? Ok! Mention the Bible standards.

BlueAngel444:
the same one spoken of in Isaiah 11:3 he will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears.

the same one who in Revelation 2:27 calls God father. The son of the living God who died and rose again and is at the right hand of God the Father

The point you're still deviating from is: YAHWEH says in Jeremiah that He searches minds and tests the hearts

"I YAHWEH, searches the minds and tests the hearts...."

Jesus in revelation didn't quote that Jeremiah but specifically to be the very person "I AM THE ONE who searches the mind and tests the heart...

That's the point, but I know a brainwashed JWs won't see that!

Besides, you didn't answer your own question again, why?

At the angel of the Lord is called YAHWEH!

DappaD:


My brother, a great chasm has truly been fixed between Jehovah's Witnesses and spiritually thirsty religious zealots—Luke 16:26

Jehovah's Witnesses are comfortable with what we believe and we're not soliciting their support because we're sure of father Abraham's blessings. It's all these scattered religionsists with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines that are trying to see if any of their illusions can be approved by JWs.
They must know that with the "great chasm" none of our beliefs will be acceptable to Churchgoers as a whole unless individuals who are prepared to say goodbye to their falsehood, neither can any of their beliefs be acceptable to JW Organization unless individuals in our midst choose to say goodbye to the truth! Luke 16:24-26

elated177:

Don't just give quotations. Why don't you highlight them?

What I gave is just a brief demonstration that will appeal to a honesthearted individual who's seeking truth.

Is it because I used "Scriptural"? Ok! Mention the Bible standards.

Right now, I believe you're just acting cynical because whatever I say is not of any concern to you since you don't have any regard for the Bible.
No problem, just go and worship your Yahveh the way you know best.