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Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Judybash93(m): 11:58am On Oct 04, 2020
ggirl4real:
I don't believe in evolution nor the Bible creation story

I just choose to believe in what I see daily and I'm sure I'm not breaking any law in the constitution jare

However, religion is confused especially Christianity because different churches have different beliefs and doctrines all backed up by the Bible. No unity at all.

Pentecostals believe Catholic, Jehovah Witnesses and white garment churches are not true Christians and will not make heaven

Jehovah Witnesses believe they are the only true Christians

Deeper Life believes they are the best

...and the discrimination continues

All of them support their doctrine and beliefs from the same Bible

Is this how they'll be able to convert unbelievers to Christ?
And i agree with all of them
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by jmoore(m): 12:06pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Will you stop unduly parading your ignorance embarrassingly like this public.

You want to go in the deep end with abi? You want to go head to head with yeah, lmso? I have just told you that I know many SSA couples who have children, lmso. Now tell, who made you believe that a man can impregnate his fellow man, duh?

OK, can you explain straight sperms gone in, and gay babies coming out? Was sperm involved in the immaculate conception of Yahshua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesu Christ, hmm?

What is more important between impregnation or declaration and expression of love, hmm?

I am still waiting for you to articulate with verifiable proof, what particularly in homosexuality is not only evil, but specifically is insanity, smh sigh.
Jesus Christ did not come through a homosexual couple.
Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Eve.

In defending homosexuality, you would end up 'shooting' yourself several times.


You don't even need to be a couple to adopt a baby. Some single folks adopted children.

When you say some homosexual couples have children, you made it sound like they impregnated each other.


Homosexuality is insanity because it is insanity. Show me one individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION?
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Judybash93(m): 12:06pm On Oct 04, 2020
ggirl4real:
Oga, I am not an Atheist because I cannot prove that God does not exist

At the same time, I am not a Christian because I cannot prove that God exist

As for spending time in RELIGIOUS section, it is RELIGIOUS section, not Christians section. Even if it were to be Christian section, this is social media now.

I won't come to church to challenge Pastors but when you bring religious matters online (with the aim of getting new converts), I'll have to ask questions when I'm confused now.
Atheism isn't a claim. It's the lack of belief in the existence of god or gods. It's more like Christians and Muslims say god is real and he exists but atheists say they don't believe in their claim because there isn't enough evidence to support it. They don't claim that there's no god, if there's enough evidence to prove that god exists, an atheist will be willing to believe. So, the burden of proof lies in the hands of those who make such claim.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Judybash93(m): 12:10pm On Oct 04, 2020
jmoore:
Jesus Christ did not come through a homosexual couple.
Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Eve.

In defending homosexuality, you would end up 'shooting' yourself several times.


You don't even need to be a couple to adopt a baby. Some single folks adopted children.

When you say some homosexual couples have children, you made it sound like they impregnated each other.


Homosexuality is insanity because it is insanity. Show me one individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION?
According to the Bible, the holy spirit came on Mary grin
Mary received the holy cane grin
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by jmoore(m): 12:16pm On Oct 04, 2020
Judybash93:
According to the Bible, the holy spirit came on Mary grin
Mary received the holy cane grin
There are many types of Bible.

Perhaps, you read the "Bible of fools" which is completely different from Christian Bible.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by luvmijeje(f): 12:30pm On Oct 04, 2020
This is deep! Op, thanks for opening my mind.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by mariahAngel(f): 12:35pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"No one who gossips can be trusted with a secret, but you can put confidence in someone who is trustworthy."
- Proverbs 11:13

"A gossip betrays a confidence; so avoid anyone who talks too much"
- Psalms 20:19

"Keep your tongue from evil, and your lips from speaking lies (i.e. about/of others)"
- Psalms 34:13

Rumors travel faster than the speed of light, lmso. You have been listening to the devils's radio and watching the devil's channel child, lmso.

Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiotas. mariahAngel, if gossip were food, I suppose you should overweight by now. It is a shame that people like you are so quick to believe the bad, untrue, incorrect comments made about someone else. Dont you know that gossip is a dangerous tool? Why are you using gossip as a bonding tool, hmm? Dont you know that gossip hurts the body of Christ, erhn? Dont you know that gossips divides, it slanders, it produces strife, it separates brethren/sisters, and above all, dont you know that it is sin to gossip, lmso.

mariahAngel, please never again indulge in gossip, because gossip is normally based on lies and about someone wanting to feel better about themselves, by hurting someone else and destroying the other person's good character, lmso. Life is too short, so learn to cut out negativity and/or negative energy, lmso.

Say to my face and in public, what allegedly I couldn't answer directly when you asked me ...and I kept on going in circles about, lmso.

I am sure you havent considered the Proverbs 11:13 truth that you're gossiper and so, a person not to be trusted with the truth, lmso
Enough with your incessant mentions!
I'm not cut out for such nonsense!
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 1:55pm On Oct 04, 2020
jmoore:
Jesus Christ did not come through a homosexual couple.
Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Eve.
Whether Yahshua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesu Christ come through a homosexual couple or not, whether Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Eve or even whether Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, you still are at a lost of telling what particularly is evil in a monogamous faithful homosexual couple relationship

jmoore:
In defending homosexuality, you would end up 'shooting' yourself several times.
How possible will lending my voice to the voiceles end up me according to you 'shooting' myself several times.

jmoore:
You don't even need to be a couple to adopt a baby. Some single folks adopted children.

When you say some homosexual couples have children, you made it sound like they impregnated each other.
If you don't remember that it was you who introduced, asking me to check if I am a product of a homosexual affair, then you must be suffering from amnesia

Stop displaying your habitual ignorance again, if you didnt ask that question, would I have replied with a homosexual couples do have children. I never made any comment that sounded as if homosexual couples impregnated each other.

jmoore:
Homosexuality is insanity because it is insanity.
Did you have to repeat "insanity" twice in your "Homosexuality is insanity because it is insanity" contrived momment ni, lmso? Once is enough. You and your game of unnecessary playing the duplication and confused dot com cards sha, lmso, smh

jmoore:
Show me one individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION
You have a disorder called homophobia. It is sometimes curable, but only if you want to cured, now, if I should show you an individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION, would this cure you, lmso
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 1:56pm On Oct 04, 2020
1StopRudeness:
Dialoging with people like u is hard....
Dialoguing with someone as clueless as you is lovely jubbly easy, home run, soft work for me.

1StopRudeness:
... do u understand context at all..?? How can u pick a phrase from a whole text to respond and ignore the entire context... I mean who does that...??
Your whole text was for me piecing together disjointed fragments of worthless information, I made the best out of a very bad situation. Only an able capable and equipped person can do that, not someone ill-equipped, shallow and sparse in depth, like you.

1StopRudeness:
I talked about twisting religious scripture to suit gay narrative..All u had to say about that was that u are not gay... so for u mind u have responded...??
Please entertain me more. Have you got me enjoying an amorous SSA relationship or moment. Have I confided in you that I have same sex attraction feeling, huh? If your answer is no to both those two questions, then why are you slandering me by calling me gay. Why being personal, centring on me instead of the matter itself tabled, huh? I suppose it is easier to personally attack me, to smear me than to face the fact and truth of the matter, isn't it, lmso

Being a sexual minority activist, is miles apart from being gay, my brother friend, lmso

1StopRudeness:
I talked about Muslims that are gay and they don’t go around twisting Quran just becos they want to have sex with same gender...u came and said gay sex isn’t about ramming d!cks into asss..do u know how to converse at all??
You introduced "I've seen Muslims that’s feel like ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss ..." though an irrelevance and unrelated, I still out of courtsey replied you back that, so you actually believe that, all same sex attraction relationships involves "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, hmm, lmso.

Why aren't you able to confirm or refute you actually believe all same sex attraction relationships involves "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, hmm, lmso?

Do you at all, know that lot of the sex that gay people have is mutual masturbation, and nothing to do with "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, using your manner of speaking, lmso, hmm?

1StopRudeness:
I finally concluded the issue with all of this is no big deal...then u said opinions can change with truth...what is truth exactly..u gay/gay apologist deliberately ignore fundamental facts and bring up false narrative in the name of truth so as to tag other people who don’t share your views ignorant and homophobic.
I dare you to please table your pseudo fundamental facts. Bring them on, so we both together do a one-to-one contextual thorough and clinical appraisal of these so-called invented fundamental facts, lmso.

1StopRudeness:
u pack ur sexual act under the umbrella love... and claim conservative and religious people don’t want and respect your love..it’s repulsive...
What is particularly is evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, please?

1StopRudeness:
whether it’s Hetero love or homo love...no one is criticizing u for loving your follow human ... my best friend is a man, and i love him scatter.... expressing my love for him by wanting to fvck him is a completely different thing...but u gay apologist always try to blur the line...Just like you blue the line the btw:
We are all homo. Homo sapiens, that is, lmso. Smh...

Stop mistaking agape, philia and eros for each other. Why would you ever entertain a thought to want to fvck your best friend man? Havent you your own partner? Are you not faithful, loyal and satisfied enough fvcking only your partner ni, to think that expressing my love for your male friend equates to wanting to fvck him?.

When, where, how have I blurred any line(s)? Bring it on, bring out your proof nah, when, where, how have I blurred any line(s), lmso.

1StopRudeness:
sex and gender
nature’s construct and social construct
Basic human biology and human decision
Animal social behavior and Human behavior...
You make no sense, lmso

1StopRudeness:
Me gay/gay apologist... you can have ur opinion but don’t you ever call me ignorant becos I have a different view from yours over a topic...
You are called ignorant, not because of your entitlement to having an opinion(s), but you are unreservedly and unapologetically called ignorant because you are glaringly ignorant of the biblical truth and natural fact(s) lmso
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 1:56pm On Oct 04, 2020
mariahAngel:
Enough with your incessant mentions!
You know what to do if you dont want to be mentioned

mariahAngel:
I'm not cut out for such nonsense!
Live and let live then. What specifically and exactly is nonsense sef in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, please?
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Nobody: 2:29pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Dialoguing with someone as clueless as you is lovely jubbly easy, home run, soft work for me.

Your whole text was for me piecing together disjointed fragments of worthless information, I made the best out of a very bad situation. Only an able capable and equipped person can do that, not someone ill-equipped, shallow and sparse in depth, like you.

Please entertain me more. Have you got me enjoying an amorous SSA relationship or moment. Have I confided in you that I have same sex attraction feeling, huh? If your answer is no to both those two questions, then why are you slandering me by calling me gay. Why being personal, centring on me instead of the matter itself tabled, huh? I suppose it is easier to personally attack me, to smear me than to face the fact and truth of the matter, isn't it, lmso

Being a sexual minority activist, is miles apart from being gay, my brother friend, lmso

You introduced "I've seen Muslims that’s feel like ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss ..." though an irrelevance and unrelated, I still out of courtsey replied you back that, so you actually believe that, all same sex attraction relationships involves "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, hmm, lmso.

Why aren't you able to confirm or refute you actually believe all same sex attraction relationships involves "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, hmm, lmso?

Do you at all, know that lot of the sex that gay people have is mutual masturbation, and nothing to do with "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, using your manner of speaking, lmso, hmm?

I dare you to please table your pseudo fundamental facts. Bring them on, so we both together do a one-to-one contextual thorough and clinical appraisal of these so-called invented fundamental facts, lmso.

What is particularly is evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, please?

We are all homo. Homo sapiens, that is, lmso. Smh...

Stop mistaking agape, philia and eros for each other. Why would you ever entertain a thought to want to fvck your best friend man? Havent you your own partner? Are you not faithful, loyal and satisfied enough fvcking only your partner ni, to think that expressing my love for your male friend equates to wanting to fvck him?.

When, where, how have I blurred any line(s)? Bring it on, bring out your proof nah, when, where, how have I blurred any line(s), lmso.

You make no sense, lmso

You are called ignorant, not because of your entitlement to having an opinion(s), but you are unreservedly and unapologetically called ignorant because you are glaringly ignorant of the biblical truth and natural fact(s) lmso
What I hate most is for an dialogue to become a contest.... U are already sounding like someone is fighting with you..so I’m going to ignore a bunch of ur text and the repititions..


u keep yelling that you ain’t gay..u don’t have to deny... there’s nothing wrong with being gay man....I told u that earlier....
twisting religious scriptures to fit ur gay lifestyle is what is wrong....... I would have love to go into a comprehensive dialogue with you... but the moment you said I’m not making sense .....I realized it a gonna be broken arrow right from the start..it won’t make any sense conversing with someone that won’t understand ....

So here’s the little i think will make sense to you.. cos I seem to care a lot about the sex part of ur gay thing......U are here claiming gay men don’t ram d!ck in each others’ aass.. that they just masturbatee..this is funny... I give u pass mark for desperately trying to lie for the whole gay community... that’s thoughtful and kind of you.

Oga.. speak for urself.. u don’t know what goes on behind people’s closed doors.... if all U do is lie beside ur man and drag each others’ d!ck... CongratuIations....don’t claim that’s what all gay folks do...Masturbation indeed... I guess that’s why the LGBT community is filled with HIV/AIDS
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 2:59pm On Oct 04, 2020
1StopRudeness:
What I hate most is for an dialogue to become a contest....
What I dont like, is when someone doesnt want to admit, accept, recognise and acknowledge they are out of their depth, as you defo are, lmso. Look at you taking pride in being biblically undereducated and on top having delight in your ignorance. Smh.

1StopRudeness:
U are already sounding like someone is fighting with you..so I’m going to ignore a bunch of ur text and the repititions..
If you've gotten to thinking that I sound like someone is fighting with me, then you surely are more confused that a fart let loose on the production floor of a fan making large scale factory

1StopRudeness:
u keep yelling that you ain’t gay..u don’t have to deny... there’s nothing wrong with being gay man....I told u that earlier....
twisting religious scriptures to fit ur gay lifestyle is what is wrong....... I would have love to go into a comprehensive dialogue with you... but the moment you said I’m not making sense .....I realized it a gonna be broken arrow right from the start..it won’t make any sense conversing with someone that won’t understand ....
Maybe if you quit mining straw man, stop personalising and ascribing what I am not on me, I wouldnt have to keep reminding you, I surrender only to the influence of vj power, lmso, not and never d!ck, lmso. I prefer the honeypot and not lollystick(s), if you naimean, lmso

Listen, 1StopRudeness, if you already know that there's nothing wrong, that there's no evil, there's nothing sinful in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, then why demonising and tainting the love they have for each other, huh?

1StopRudeness:
So here’s the little i think will make sense to you.. cos I seem to care a lot about the sex part of ur gay thing......U are here claiming gay men don’t ram d!ck in each others’ aass.. that they just masturbatee..this is funny... I give u pass mark for desperately trying to lie for the whole gay community... that’s thoughtful and kind of you.
I doubt you really are this thick or slow on the uptake, but that its just you being dishonest, shady, insincere and calculatively deliberately misrepresenting what I wrote, when I typed that "Do you at all, know that lot of the sex that gay people have is mutual masturbation, and nothing to do with "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, using your manner of speaking, lmso, hmm?"

1StopRudeness:
Oga.. speak for urself.. u don’t know what goes on behind people’s closed doors.... if all U do is lie beside ur man and drag each others’ d!ck... CongratuIations....don’t claim that’s what all gay folks do...Masturbation indeed... I guess that’s why the LGBT community is filled with HIV/AIDS
If I say you're an ignoranus, you'll try to deflect it and hold your nose tightly in disgust, as if like you've just got a whiff of a gust of wind coming from Satan's anus, lmso but look at you again, just now flagrantly displaying your ignorance about how and what you know of HIV/AIDS.

Fyi, young buck, infidelity, promiscuity and drug addiction, predominantly are the root cause of HIV/AIDS. Take that as getting a free education, lmso. I can share with you, at your request, the paper on this, lmso (i.e. declassified papers, I mean there)
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Nobody: 3:27pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
What I dont like, is when someone doesnt want to admit, accept, recognise and acknowledge they are out of their depth, as you defo are, lmso. Look at you taking pride in being biblically undereducated and on top having delight in your ignorance. Smh.

If you've gotten to thinking that I sound like someone is fighting with me, then you surely are more confused that a fart let loose on the production floor of a fan making large scale factory

Maybe if you quit mining straw man, stop personalising and ascribing what I am not on me, I wouldnt have to keep reminding you, I surrender only to the influence of vj power, lmso, not and never d!ck, lmso. I prefer the honeypot and not lollystick(s), if you naimean, lmso

Listen, 1StopRudeness, if you already know that there's nothing wrong, that there no evil, there's nothing sinful in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, then why demonising and tainting the love they have for each other, huh?

I doubt you really are this thick or slow on the uptake, but that its just you being dishonest, shady, insincere and calculatively deliberately misrepresenting what I wrote, when I typed that "Do you at all, know that lot of the sex that gay people have is mutual masturbation, and nothing to do with "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, using your manner of speaking, lmso, hmm?"

If I say you're an ignoranus, you'll try to deflect it and hold your nose tightly in disgust, as if like you've just got a whiff of a gust of wind coming from Satan's anus, lmso but look at you again, just now flagrantly displaying your ignorance about how and what you know of HIV/AIDS.

Fyi, young buck, infidelity, promiscuity and drug addiction, predominantly are the root cause of HIV/AIDS. Take that as getting a free education, lmso. I can share with you, at your request, the paper on this, lmso (i.e. declassified papers, I mean there)
See, that’s why I said I couldn’t go into deep conversations with u. 1) you are just throwing insult to make point...lol..:it doesn’t make ur point sink well, it just shows u have nothing much to say...

2) like most gay people, u ignore fundamental facts, facts from nature, and from well astablished biomedical & social research..why?. in order to suit ur gay lifestyle...it’s not just u, it’s the modus operandi of the LGBT community...
it’s desperation for validity.
That’s the same thing you do with religious scripture...like I said go and try it with the Muslims/Quran
U people even go as far as staging fake crimes against urself to establish nonexistent hatred... u call us homophobes....becos we have a different view..

How about this for free education:

Gay, bisexual, and other men who reported male-to-male sexual contacta are the population most affected by HIV in the United States. In 2018, gay and bisexual menb made up 69% of the 37,968 new HIV diagnosesc in the United States (US) and dependent areas.d Approximately 492,000 sexually active gay and bisexual men are at high risk for HIV; however, we have more tools to prevent HIV than ever before....by the way, the source is the United States center for disease control. https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html


Here’s another from a well verified source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070913132930.htm
they even said the research was based on the same number of partners....from both gay and heterosexuals.. yet you guys cliched the gold medal for higest HIV...


Incase u need another :

https://www.verywellhealth.com/why-do-gay-men-have-an-increased-risk-of-hiv-3132782

Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff:
1StopRudeness:
See, that’s why I said I couldn’t go into deep conversations with u. 1) you are just throwing insult to make point...lol..
Do you see why I'll anytime go deep with you, hmm? You throw subtle shades, while I reciprocate with unconcealed penetrative backhand volley counter assaults, that you cry baby styling take as insults, lmso.

1StopRudeness:
it doesn’t make ur point sink well, it just shows u have nothing much to say...
You better believe that I have more than I show, speak less than I know and you'll have nothing at all, talkless say much to say, if I should lean and unleash on you, lmso

1StopRudeness:
2) like most gay people,
Here we go again, I guess, as for you, bad habit(s) is/are hard suddenly get rid off, even after you've duly being corrected, lmso

1StopRudeness:
u ignore fundamental facts, facts from nature, and from well astablished biomedical & social research..why?. in order to suit ur gay lifestyle...it’s not just u, it’s the modus operandi of the LGBT community...
it’s desperation for validity.
Let me allow you entertain me using props from your bag of ignorance. So you are saying that SSA is not engrained, is not established, is not found in nature, plants and animals, abi? You are saying the natural and unnatural havent any sense of usefulness, value and purpose, in them, abi, lmso?

1StopRudeness:
That’s the same thing you do with religious scripture...like I said go and try it with the Muslims/Quran
Whats my business with prophet Muhammad pbuh, the Quran or muslims? My jurisdiction, my purview, my station, my home is the Bible

1StopRudeness:
U people even go as far as staging fake crimes against urself to establish nonexistent hatred... u call us homophobes....becos we have a different view..
Staging fakeries of any sort, is not peculiar to any set or sort of people, the fakery crime permeates from the bullpiss, sorry I meant pulpit, to

1StopRudeness:
How about this for free education:

Gay, bisexual, and other men who reported male-to-male sexual contacta are the population most affected by HIV in the United States. In 2018, gay and bisexual menb made up 69% of the 37,968 new HIV diagnosesc in the United States (US) and dependent areas.d Approximately 492,000 sexually active gay and bisexual men are at high risk for HIV; however, we have more tools to prevent HIV than ever before....by the way, the source is the United States center for disease control. h ttps://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html

Here another for a well verified source: h ttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070913132930.htm
they even said the research was based on the same number of partners....from both gay and heterosexuals.. yet you guys cliched the gold medal for higest HIV...

Incase u need another :

h ttps://www.verywellhealth.com/why-do-gay-men-have-an-increased-risk-of-hiv-3132782
Brother, would you ever attempt to teach grandma how to suck eggs. Do you think you're conversing with baby Kingsway here, hmm? If you aren't an indomie/millennial generation (i.e. Generation Y) or Generation Z generation then you wouldnt understand what the phrase baby Kingsway means, lmso

Anyway cutting to the chase, if you had done the proper due diligence of reading completely all the sites you posted, you would have noticed, that their content reinforced my point that infidelity, promiscuity and drug addiction, predominantly are the root cause of HIV/AIDS. Gays' risk is high because a large percentage of their potential partners are infected with the virus, on top on not using protective sex. Do you think gays, can easily contract STDs (i.e. sexually transmitted diseases) like syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia that greatly increase the chance of getting or transmitting HIV, if there are faithful and monogamous to each other, lmso, hmm?

Do you know who Magic Johnson is. He isn't gay. It was promiscuity, that karma-snitched on him
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Judybash93(m): 5:03pm On Oct 04, 2020
jmoore:
There are many types of Bible.

Perhaps, you read the "Bible of fools" which is completely different from Christian Bible.
grin grin grin elder don vex.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 5:10pm On Oct 04, 2020
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Kobojunkie: 5:36pm On Oct 04, 2020
jmoore:
Christianity doesn't play the CONSENT card.Homosexuality is death.
If a woman has sex with a dog, it would be OK according to your logic. Homosexuality is evil!!!
But Christianity is not defined by the Old Covenant and so it is not death to homosexuals. Jesus Christ, the new Covenant, did warn us against putting new wine in old wine cloth.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Nobody: 5:39pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Do you see why I'll anytime go deep with you, hmm? You throw subtle shades, while I reciprocate with unconcealed penetrative backhand volley counter assaults, that you cry baby styling take as insults, lmso.

You better believe that I have more than I show, speak less than I know and you'll have nothing at all, talkless say much to say, if I should lean and unleash on you, lmso

Here we go again, I guess, as for you, bad habit(s) is/are hard suddenly get rid off, even after you've duly being corrected, lmso

Let me allow you entertain me using props from your bag of ignorance. So you are saying that SSA is not engrained, is not established, is not found in nature, plants and animals, abi? You are saying the natural and unnatural havent any sense of usefulness, value and purpose, in them, abi, lmso?

Whats my business with prophet Muhammad pbuh, the Quran or muslims? My jurisdiction, my purview, my station, my home is the Bible

Staging fakeries of any sort, is not peculiar to any set or sort of people, the fakery crime permeates from the bullpiss, sorry I meant pulpit, to

Brother, would you ever attempt to teach grandma how to suck eggs. Do you think you're conversing with baby Kingsway here, hmm? If you aren't an indomie/millennial generation (i.e. Generation Y) or Generation Z generation then you wouldnt understand what the phrase baby Kingsway means, lmso

Anyway cutting to the chase, if you had done the proper due diligence of reading completely all the sites you posted, you would have noticed, that their content reinforced my point that infidelity, promiscuity and drug addiction, predominantly are the root cause of HIV/AIDS. Gays' risk is high because a large percentage of their potential partners are infected with the virus, on top on not using protective sex. Do you think gays, can easily contract STDs (i.e. sexually transmitted diseases) like syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia that greatly increase the chance of getting or transmitting HIV, if there are faithful and monogamous to each other, lmso, hmm?

Do you know who Magic Johnson is. He isn't gay. It was promiscuity, that karma-snitched on him
Keep decieving yourself....heterosexuals are promiscuous and live bad lifestyle as well, but U guys just happen to have the HIV gold medal becos the virus is beefing gay people abi?? Well done..

..see guy... keep having ur gay sex...and keep up the good work of supporting gay people and their spread of HIV...



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Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Kobojunkie: 5:54pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Important to consider the Truth of God in the context that it was given, always, is not something ingrained anywhere in the psyche (i.e. human soul, mind and spirit) of homophobic bigots, lmso.

And you are not aware that promiscuity movement has crawled into the church?

The OP and folks like him, whatever that means, aren't at all like the Pharisees that Jesus condemned, but you my dear sire jmoore and others of like mind, that toe your line, are the modern day equivalent of the Pharisees, that Yashua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ was ever at loggerheads with

Now brethren Kobojunkie and jmoore, I dare youse to respond to this question, lmso. Since Kobojunkie typed that he/she doesnt know the heart of the @OP, then I wouldnt mind tobechi74 too have a go at the below asked question, lmso. In fact, special invite is extended to ggirl4real, mariahAngel and 1StopRudeness to come answer the question as well, lmso

What exactly is the evil and/or what particularly is sinful, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, lmso, hmm?
According to the Old Covenant where God defines that which is sin for His people, Israel, Homosexuality is most definitely a sin. After all, God disposes.
For those of us in the New Covenant, I am still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of not "Putting New Wine into Old Wine Skin" as Jesus Christ commanded. It changes a whole lot of things, my perception of what sin is as far as the New Covenant is concerned.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 6:04pm On Oct 04, 2020
1StopRudeness:
Keep decieving yourself....heterosexuals are promiscuous and live bad lifestyle as well, but U guys just happen to have the HIV gold medal becos the virus is beefing gay people abi?? Well done..

..see guy... keep having ur gay sex...and keep up the good work of supporting gay people and their spread of HIV... ..
If as a SSA person you aren't promiscuous, you have nothing to fear about of HIV.

If you are already infected, but you are now in a monogamous relationship and always have protective sex with your partner, then too you equally have nothing of HIV, to fear about.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 6:16pm On Oct 04, 2020
Kobojunkie:
According to the Old Covenant where God defines that which is sin for His people, Israel, Homosexuality is most definitely a sin. After all, God disposes.
1/ Please show where in black ink, is the word Homosexuality/homosexual, is most definitely a sin.
2/ Please be specific, I beg you profusely, what specifically is it that according to you and your understanding, makes/made Homosexuality most definitely a sin? You seem to be sure that homosexuality is most definitely a sin, so this shouldn't be hard for you to fully and clearly express or state in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, why and how homosexuality is most definitely a sin.

Kobojunkie:
For those of us in the New Covenant, I am still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of not "Putting New Wine into Old Wine Skin" as Jesus Christ commanded. It changes a whole lot of things, my perception of what sin is as far as the New Covenant is concerned.
The definition of what sin is, hasn't changed from sin is missing the mark. Hasn't changed from missing God's standard, lmso.

Now the question you want to mull over here is, is there a problem with the love for each other of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, hmm? If there's no objection to these two profess of love for each other, then why demonising and tainting this love that they profess and have for each other, huh?
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by jmoore(m): 7:39pm On Oct 04, 2020
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Kobojunkie:
But Christianity is not defined by the Old Covenant and so it is not death to homosexuals. Jesus Christ, the new Covenant, did warn us against putting new wine in old wine cloth.
Michael Glatze made the statement “Homosexuality is death, and I choose life.” He was a former gay. I wasn't saying gays should be killed.

For more about him, check https://www.nairaland.com/1977900/ex-gay-advocate-rejected-homosexuality

New wine in old skin meaning: You can’t mix old religious rituals with new faith in Jesus. Because we are now under the new covenant of grace and faith in Christ.


That we are under grace doesn't give us license to behave like demons.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by jmoore(m): 7:50pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Whether Yahshua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesu Christ come through a homosexual couple or not, whether Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Eve or even whether Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, you still are at a lost of telling what particularly is evil in a monogamous faithful homosexual couple relationship

How possible will lending my voice to the voiceles end up me according to you 'shooting' myself several times.

If you don't remember that it was you who introduced, asking me to check if I am a product of a homosexual affair, then you must be suffering from amnesia

Stop displaying your habitual ignorance again, if you didnt ask that question, would I have replied with a homosexual couples do have children. I never made any comment that sounded as if homosexual couples impregnated each other.

Did you have to repeat "insanity" twice in your "Homosexuality is insanity because it is insanity" contrived momment ni, lmso? Once is enough. You and your game of unnecessary playing the duplication and confused dot com cards sha, lmso, smh

You have a disorder called homophobia. It is sometimes curable, but only if you want to cured, now, if I should show you an individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION, wouldo this cure you, lmso
You want to show me a human being who is a product of homosexual reproduction? Dude, you need serious help.

Defending homosexuality is exhibition of insanity. Once again, you shot yourself.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Mystery9(m): 8:07pm On Oct 04, 2020
Post from a conscious or an unconscious agent of darkness. If you are a real human, and not a demon in the flesh, you are advice to repent and come to Jesus Christ. But if you are a demon in flesh (humanoid), oh so pathetic, because such beings fate of horror is sealed already.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 8:32pm On Oct 04, 2020
jmoore:
Michael Glatze made the statement “Homosexuality is death, and I choose life.” He was a former gay. I wasn't saying gays should be killed.

For more about him, check https://www.nairaland.com/1977900/ex-gay-advocate-rejected-homosexuality

New wine in old skin meaning: You can’t mix old religious rituals with new faith in Jesus. Because we are now under the new covenant of grace and faith in Christ.

That we are under grace doesn't give us license to behave like demons.
How do you mean "that we are under grace doesn't give us license to behave like demons"?

Do demons faithfully and loyally love each other? Do demons profess undying love for each other?

jmoore:
You want to show me a human being who is a product of homosexual reproduction? Dude, you need serious help.
You introduce unrelated, irrelevant and unconnected issue, but when you are taking to task on them, you throw up a sulking tantrum. Have you forgotten that it was you who brought up the issue of asking me to show you one individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION, lmso.

jmoore:
Defending homosexuality is exhibition of insanity. Once again, you shot yourself.
Defending discrimination, prejudice, intolerance, bigotry, intimidation of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, is callous, cowardly, insane, and unbecoming of someone perceived to be a son/daughter of God.

Now watch this jmoore please, would you say, ALL heterosexual relationships are good, lmso. I bet you wouldnt dare say ALL heterosexual relationships are good, lmso. Well fyi, its the same manner and way, that I know that, not all homosexual relationships are good, and why you won't ever find me defending ALL homosexual relationships, lmso. Capisce, has the penny dropped for you yet, lmso?
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by jmoore(m): 8:49pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
How do you mean "that we are under grace doesn't give us license to behave like demons"?

Do demons faithfully and loyally love each other? Do demons profess undying love for each other?

You introduce unrelated, irrelevant and unconnected issue, but when you are taking to task on them, you throw up a sulking tantrum. Have you forgotten that it was you who brought up the issue of asking me to show you one individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION, lmso.

Defending discrimination, prejudice, intolerance, bigotry, intimidation of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, is callous, cowardly, insane, and unbecoming of someone perceived to be a son/daughter of God.

Now watch this jmoore please, would you say, ALL heterosexual relationships are good, lmso. I bet you wouldnt dare say ALL heterosexual relationships are good, lmso. Well fyi, its the same manner and way, that I know that, not all homosexual relationships are good, and why you won't ever find me defending ALL homosexual relationships, lmso. Capisce, has the penny dropped for you yet, lmso?
Dude, go and impregnate your fellow gay to prove your point.

If simple biology is too difficult for you, then Bible is above your comprehension.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Kobojunkie: 11:38pm On Oct 04, 2020
jmoore:
Michael Glatze made the statement “Homosexuality is death, and I choose life.” He was a former gay. I wasn't saying gays should be killed.
For more about him, check https://www.nairaland.com/1977900/ex-gay-advocate-rejected-homosexuality
Good for Michael Glatze, but He ain't Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is the one whose word meanings ALL to those who follow Him.
jmoore:
New wine in old skin meaning: You can’t mix old religious rituals with new faith in Jesus. Because we are now under the new covenant of grace and faith in Christ.
That we are under grace doesn't give us license to behave like demons.
What Old religious rituals are you referring to? Passover? Year of Jubilee? Jesus partook in them all, so how could He have been speaking exactly of that which He partook of as if it were no more? There are no old or new religious rituals.

There is instead an Old Covenant, and a New Covenant, and that is what Jesus Christ made clear to His disciples that did not need to be mixed. Old Wine refers to the Old covenant, in which even Jesus Christ Himself lived in order to fulfill the requirements of the Law on behalf of those who would choose to follow Him, Jesus Christ. And then there is the New Covenant, also known as the New wine, which Jesus Christ embodied and taught His disciples to obey. The New Covenant comes complete with it's own separate agreement( complete with its own yoke, blessings, curses, promises, burden etc.) separate from the Old Covenant(which also has its own yoke, blessings, curses, promises, burden etc.). Hence the reason why Jesus Christ warned that they should not be mixed together.

As for rituals, the only thing close to a ritual of sorts that Jesus Christ gave us with His New Covenant was the eating of communion, and nothing else. And even then, it was during the celebration of Jewish Passover that Jesus Christ introduced that to His disciples. Basically, sort of combining the two (Passover and Communion) into one. That is not a separation of old and new rituals... see?
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Kobojunkie: 11:49pm On Oct 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
1/ Please show where in black ink, is the word Homosexuality/homosexual, is most definitely a sin.
2/ Please be specific, I beg you profusely, what specifically is it that according to you and your understanding, makes/made Homosexuality most definitely a sin? You seem to be sure that homosexuality is most definitely a sin, so this shouldn't be hard for you to fully and clearly express or state in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, why and how homosexuality is most definitely a sin.

The definition of what sin is, hasn't changed from sin is missing the mark. Hasn't changed from missing God's standard, lmso.

Now the question you want to mull over here is, is there a problem with the love for each other of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, hmm? If there's no objection to these two profess of love for each other, then why demonising and tainting this love that they profess and have for each other, huh?
I don't need to mull anything over. I signed up to Obey God and God alone. So, it is not my place to decide whether what God said is right or wrong. God is True and He is Just, and I only have to believe and accept that as Truth, Jesus Christ.
Imagine if this were a debate on adultery, would you also put forth the same fight?
Like I already stated....
Kobojunkie:
According to the Old Covenant where God defines that which is sin for His people, Israel, Homosexuality is most definitely a sin. After all, God disposes.
For those of us in the New Covenant, I am still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of not "Putting New Wine into Old Wine Skin" as Jesus Christ commanded. It changes a whole lot of things, my perception of what sin is as far as the New Covenant is concerned.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 3:36am On Oct 05, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I don't need to mull anything over.
Suit yourself, if you dont want to want to think abut it deeply and at length, lmso. Watch if that bothers me, lmso

Kobojunkie:
I signed up to Obey God and God alone.
Kobojunkie:
So, it is not my place to decide whether what God said is right or wrong. God is True and He is Just, and I only have to believe and accept that as Truth, Jesus Christ.
No one has contested with you about whether whatever what God said is right or wrong
I am very pleased to hear that you afterall know that God is True and Just. Them two characters are just exactly what I hoped to hear acknowledged about the truthfulness and justness of God in regards of His openness and fair-mindedness to the love for each other of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour.

Kobojunkie:
Imagine if this were a debate on adultery ...
If you get your fact right, you would know this debate already has adultery, placed on the table. What do you think infidelity is about? What of promiscuity and/or being promiscuous then, huh? You've read me typed about unfaithfulness, nobi so? Now, my dear brother friend, imagine someone, thats meant to be in a monogamous SSA relationship, jumping from one bed to another bed et cetera, is that acceptable behaviour? Is it behaving OK and fair to his/her loyal partner, hmm?

Kobojunkie:
would you also put forth the same fight?
I dont have any need or cause to put forth any degree or sort of fight my dear brother friend. All I've met from me trying to place straight sticks on the ground, laid beside each and every crooked sticks other interlocutors have placed down, is nothing other than same interlocutors putting up fierce fights, even you yourself aren't absolved of making a fight and grappling with the problem to keep and not change your deep seated long standing biased mind on homosexuality, lmso.

Kobojunkie:
Like I already stated....
"According to the Old Covenant where God defines that which is sin for His people, Israel, Homosexuality is most definitely a sin. After all, God disposes.
For those of us in the New Covenant, I am still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of not "Putting New Wine into Old Wine Skin" as Jesus Christ commanded. It changes a whole lot of things, my perception of what sin is as far as the New Covenant is concerned.
"
With the utmost respect, this "Like I already stated...." remark and it's comment, is nothing other than sheer and pure confused dot com unadulterated gibberish

Like I already know, you're not a diligent disciple, an adherent of, a stickler to, nor a strong enthusiast influenced by 2 Timothy 2:15, lmso. This is the reason why because of your inability at correctly handling and rightly dividing the word of truth, you couldn't face up to answering them two easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless, straightforward questions.

I expect you to drop the following below question, like as if its a hot potato, same way you did with my earlier asked two easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless, straightforward questions, but me being a fair minded person, want to give you the benefit of doubt, that you won't dodge, but will give a response to the below asked

What, Kobojunkie, in one word, and is eternal, is the fundamental/core purpose of man to God, himself and neighbour, lmso?
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 3:43am On Oct 05, 2020
jmoore:
Dude, go and impregnate your fellow gay to prove your point.
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Are you still at this "impregnate your fellow gay" palaver. Smh sigh.

jmoore:
If simple biology is too difficult for you ...
You should have first looked up the meaning of "simple biology" before ignorantly coming on here to use it.

jmoore:
... then Bible is above your comprehension.
The Bible is above your comprehension because you're biblically undereducated
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by Kobojunkie: 3:43am On Oct 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
What, Kobojunkie, in one word, and is eternal, is the fundamental/core purpose of man to God, himself and neighbour, lmso?
One word? Sheesh! The ultimate reason why we are here is to serve God with all our heart, mind, body, and soul. Even when we love our neighbor as we love ourselves, and do unto others as we would like for them to do to us, we do so because that is one of the ways God ultimately wants us to serve Him - "whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me"-- Jesus Christ.

It is not wise to serve God without fully trusting Him - His truth included. He created it all- He is the rule maker. We may not always understand it but it is not our place to question His wisdom. He is the Puppet Master, the creator, the All.

Like I already said, according to His Old covenant definition, homosexuality is a sin. Jesus Christ did not say it is no longer a sin, and since God's word is everlasting, targeting persons won't change God's truth.
Re: A Christian Dad Discussed Homosexuality With Son by MuttleyLaff: 3:59am On Oct 05, 2020
Kobojunkie:
One word?
You heard. Yes. One word, is what I expect from your answer.

Kobojunkie:
sheesh! The ultimate reason why we are here is to serve God with all our heart, mind, body, and soul. Even when we love our neighbor as we love ourselves, and do unto others as we would like for them to do to us, we do so because that is one of the ways God ultimately wants us to serve Him - "whatever you do to the least of these, you to do with me".
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Are all these, one word? Smh
You're doing yourself, thinking you're doing me

Kobojunkie:
It is impossible to serve God without fully trusting Him - His truth included. He created it all- He is the rule maker. We may not always understand it but it is not our place to question His wisdom. He is the Puppet Master, the creator, the All.
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What kind of wack theology, is this?
Imagine calling God, a puppet master, lmso. Smh. Sigh.

I am almost on the verge of typing that I dont care what cop out you want to use, but the truth of the matter is that, the brain, isn't an ornament to decorate the body with, and so, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, for a reason(s) and for such a time(s) as this/these. Feel free and be my guest, to underuse your brain, my dear brother friend. OK?

Enjoy your not understanding God. Enjoy not understanding His wisdom. Enjoy making excuses and hiding behind fluffy writings
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