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The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Ikengawo: 2:22pm On Oct 07, 2020
It is only ignorance that allows most of what's being said in Nigeria to be said. The issue is the ignorance reaches the highest levels of government. Nigeria, of course, picks it's leadership from prisons (Obasanjo, TA Orji, Buhari) and various international criminal outfits like Tinubu with his Chicago heroine issues and Atiku with his bans from the US for embezzlement.

But one northern politician years ago said that the oil of the Niger Delta belongs to the North and we all, out of ignorance, protested.
Anyone that's ready to study, read, and look at the truth has to know; he's right.


1.The Niger Delta's oil doesn't come from the land of the states in the region, but it's access to the oil rich ocean.
2. Ocean property or ownership of the sea is determined by the landmass of a country. Big countries like the US and China have more ocean beyond it's shores than small ones like Denmark.
3. 70% of Nigeria's landmass comes from the North. It is the size of the North (geographically) that allows Nigeria to claim 70% of it's marine territory and this claim is what allows Nigeria to produce almost all of it's oil.
4. If Nigeria loses the north, it's access to oil will drop 50-70%
5. Even with the amount of oil Nigeria gets now, the Niger Delta is still abysmally poor... poorer than the North if you exclude the inland areas like Edo, the Asaba-Agbor axis, , forget the 'megaprojects' of Akwa Ibom illiteracy and poverty are almost exclusively focused in the North and 'South South' of Nigeria.



worst, investors are not interested in Nigeria's inland oil and nobody in the Niger Delta (minus Igbo, Ondo areas) knows how to refine oil, and investors what no business with Nigerian oil, especially Nigerian inland oil.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Mokason28: 2:23pm On Oct 07, 2020
The oil of Niger Delta belongs to the North , ... why is Buhari still spending billions searching for oil in the North?
Who ever wrote this article is a fooool

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Ikengawo: 2:24pm On Oct 07, 2020
This is not to say there is no inland oil in the Nigerian coast. There is, but not the amount that Nigerians are used to and without the access to the ocean oil production in Bayelsa is 1:1 with oil production in Imo and Abia. Geographically there's virtually no difference between Rivers and Imo-Abia as far as oil access. The only difference is a comparatively long coast and hence the off shore oil.


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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Ikengawo: 2:38pm On Oct 07, 2020
In case you need evidence. Cross River State was once an 'oil producer' Akwa Ibom took them to court and won all of Cross River's offshore oil production. The result, Cross River is no longer an 'oil producer'.

Imagine this happening to Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and co




Oil well disputes are common in Nigeria; in August Cross River state ceased to be an oil-producing one when a court decided Akwa Ibom owned the 76 offshore oil wells in dispute. Akwa Ibom, won, and is now demanding N18.4 billion in refunds from Cross River.
https://www.ft.com/content/5265c7d8-a19d-33b1-b39a-457d01cb0125

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Ikengawo: 2:40pm On Oct 07, 2020
Mokason28:
The oil of Niger Delta belongs to the North , ... why is Buhari still spending billions searching for oil in the North?
Who ever wrote this article is a fooool

Imagine having a brain that tells you finding more oil is worst than not finding more oil.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Flyingngel(m): 2:53pm On Oct 07, 2020
The person that scribble this nonsense is mad.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Sonoyom(m): 3:02pm On Oct 07, 2020
Make i no just talk wetin dey my mind because the person wen write this thing get very low IQ.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Banmeallday: 3:04pm On Oct 07, 2020
We’ve heard the same crap from the OP before...

It’s simple...

Let the zoo divide and we will then see....SIMPLE

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by IkwerrePikin: 3:17pm On Oct 07, 2020
You’re joking!
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by kenny714433(m): 3:44pm On Oct 07, 2020
grin

Yeah.
My grandfather told me that.
He went on to say that the gold in Zamfara is owned by Ghana.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by SaintBishop: 3:52pm On Oct 07, 2020
grin
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by chrisxxx(m): 4:09pm On Oct 07, 2020
How do we stop this stupidity? Land mass is used to determine boundary when two countries are separated by water. In the case of Nigeria there is no nearby country off the coast of Niger Delta.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Openbusiness: 5:01pm On Oct 07, 2020
Ikengawo:
[s]It is only ignorance that allows most of what's being said in Nigeria to be said. The issue is the ignorance reaches the highest levels of government. Nigeria, of course, picks it's leadership from prisons (Obasanjo, TA Orji, Buhari) and various international criminal outfits like Tinubu with his Chicago heroine issues and Atiku with his bans from the US for embezzlement.

But one northern politician years ago said that the oil of the Niger Delta belongs to the North and we all, out of ignorance, protested.
Anyone that's ready to study, read, and look at the truth has to know; he's right.


1.The Niger Delta's oil doesn't come from the land of the states in the region, but it's access to the oil rich ocean.
2. Ocean property or ownership of the sea is determined by the landmass of a country. Big countries like the US and China have more ocean beyond it's shores than small ones like Denmark.
3. 70% of Nigeria's landmass comes from the North. It is the size of the North (geographically) that allows Nigeria to claim 70% of it's marine territory and this claim is what allows Nigeria to produce almost all of it's oil.
4. If Nigeria loses the north, it's access to oil will drop 50-70%
5. Even with the amount of oil Nigeria gets now, the Niger Delta is still abysmally poor... poorer than the North if you exclude the inland areas like Edo, the Asaba-Agbor axis, , forget the 'megaprojects' of Akwa Ibom illiteracy and poverty are almost exclusively focused in the North and 'South South' of Nigeria.

worst, investors are not interested in Nigeria's inland oil and nobody in the Niger Delta (minus Igbo, Ondo areas) knows how to refine oil, and investors what no business with Nigerian oil, especially Nigerian inland oil.
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Let me solve your problem. Divide Nigeria, and let the 70% of the landmass (which you claim belongs to the North by your magical calculation) stand alone, and let's see if you can claim just 1 inch of ocean territory in the South, let's see whether any part of the North touches the ocean at any point. All these arguments, conflicts, tribalism, hate etc everything ENDS when Nigeria breaks.

That's why I have said and will continue to say, break up is the only solution to Nigeria's internal problems. The biggest problem this country has is the map below. Break it to pieces and watch magic happen. Those that want prosperity and development will get it. Those that don't want, will get what they want. Everyone will be ok when this map is "destroyed"! This map as it is can only continue to destroy the destiny of hundreds of millions of people. We don't belong together, no matter how you look at it. This is not a case of hate or tribalism.

Break up doesn't mean I hate this person or hate that person. This is not a matter of language, or even humanity. We all (well most of us) can speak maybe pidgin or English , can't we? So things like anguage etc is not even the issue. The issue is COMPATIBILITY. We are not compatible. What we have been doing as a geographic space for over 100 years now is trying to fit square pegs in round holes and triangular pegs in hexagonal holes. It didn't work then, it is not working now and it will never work. We have wasted the last century, imagine more than 100 years wasted for nothing.

Time is the most valuable resource in this entire world and we just threw away about 100 years. How many more centuries are we going to waste and how many tens of millions of people have to die by civil war again before we accept the truth. We don't have to kill ourselves before we separate. We can separate peacefully. This is what modern civilization is about. Humanity has gone past that way of barbarism where we have to kill ourselves by the millions before we have sense.

Restructuring will never work. Break up is the solution. Assuming we have broken up now, can you write any of this thing that you wrote? The North has land, has rivers, has mineral resources. The south has land, has the ocean and has mineral resources. So everyone has something. Even the south can not remain one. It will break into many pieces, as many as is necessary for people to be free, people to have self-determination to take their own destiny into their hands, and as many as it takes to have peace.

For example, the Southwest can't stay as one. There will be problem and conflict and killings. Some want an Islamic caliphate like their Northern counterparts. So for me, like ten Southwest needs to be broken into 3 countries; Atlantic for Christians, O'dua for Pagans and MURIC for Muslims. Then everyone can do whatever they like in their one country without issues. Nobody will say anyone is imposing or blocking their religion, and nobody will use their ideology to enslave another. The same idea applies to other regions in the South as well as the entire North.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by FEGNO: 5:20pm On Oct 07, 2020
Common sense alas is not common. One would think the OP has saw dust where his brain ought to be.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Fash20: 5:43pm On Oct 07, 2020
This is just another crappy write up

Now here is a hint

""The foundation is the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS 1982). It says that a country may claim an area extending 12 nautical miles from its coast as its own territorial sea. Additionally it can exploit 200 nautical miles of the water column beyond its coast as its exclusive economic zone. The same applies to the first 200 nautical miles of the sea floor, the continental shelf. The resources found there can be exploited by that country alone. And that is not all. If the country can scientifically prove that its continental shelf extends even further – that it is continuously geologically connected to the mainland – it also has the sole rights to the resources there as well. This territorial claim includes islands but not rocks or other outcroppings "".


Now Do your research and disprove yourself

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Kinematics: 5:53pm On Oct 07, 2020
Flyingngel:
The person that scribble this nonsense is mad.


Very very madt
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Openbusiness: 5:58pm On Oct 07, 2020
Fash20:
This is just another crappy write up

Now here is an hint

The foundation is the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS 1982). It says that a country may claim an area extending 12 nautical miles from its coast as its own territorial sea. Additionally it can exploit 200 nautical miles of the water column beyond its coast as its exclusive economic zone. The same applies to the first 200 nautical miles of the sea floor, the continental shelf. The resources found there can be exploited by that country alone. And that is not all. If the country can scientifically prove that its continental shelf extends even further – that it is continuously geologically connected to the mainland – it also has the sole rights to the resources there as well. This territorial claim includes islands but not rocks or other outcroppings.


Now Do your research and disprove yourself
Oga you're very funny grin. See all these things you wrote, how does it relate or correlate? Does the North have any coast? Is there any part of the North that touches the ocean? grin If you want to put all this info forward at least they even have to have a link first to be qualified, for this info to be applicable. The North is land surrounded by land. They don't have any coast. So they can't claim any ocean, not even 1 inch of it. And if they can't claim any part of the ocean, how can they claim offshore oil deposits in the surrounding area? IMPOSSIBLE. The only thing they can even begin to lay claims to are the inland rivers that flow through their territory, like river Niger, benue etc. And even that, they don't own it because it flows through. If they block those channels with dams from their originating sources, there won't be a single inland river in the North, all you will have left are rocks and rain and borehole water
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Fash20: 6:04pm On Oct 07, 2020
Openbusiness:
Oga you're very funny grin. See all these things you wrote, how does it relate or correlate? Does the North have any coast? Is there any part of the North that touches the ocean? grin If you want to put all this info forward at least they even have to have a link first to be qualified, for this info to be applicable. The North is land surrounded by land. They don't have any coast. So they can't claim any ocean, not even 1 inch of it. The only thing they can even begin to lay claims to are the inland rivers that flow through their territory, like river Niger, benue etc.

I get you.

He said the size of an ocean or sea that belongs to a country is proportional to the size of the country. That is what i intend to disprove.

I quoted the UNLOS to do that.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Proeast2: 6:22pm On Oct 07, 2020
Ikengawo:
It is only ignorance that allows most of what's being said in Nigeria to be said. The issue is the ignorance reaches the highest levels of government. Nigeria, of course, picks it's leadership from prisons (Obasanjo, TA Orji, Buhari) and various international criminal outfits like Tinubu with his Chicago heroine issues and Atiku with his bans from the US for embezzlement.

But one northern politician years ago said that the oil of the Niger Delta belongs to the North and we all, out of ignorance, protested.
Anyone that's ready to study, read, and look at the truth has to know; he's right.


1.The Niger Delta's oil doesn't come from the land of the states in the region, but it's access to the oil rich ocean.
2. Ocean property or ownership of the sea is determined by the landmass of a country. Big countries like the US and China have more ocean beyond it's shores than small ones like Denmark.
3. 70% of Nigeria's landmass comes from the North. It is the size of the North (geographically) that allows Nigeria to claim 70% of it's marine territory and this claim is what allows Nigeria to produce almost all of it's oil.
4. If Nigeria loses the north, it's access to oil will drop 50-70%
5. Even with the amount of oil Nigeria gets now, the Niger Delta is still abysmally poor... poorer than the North if you exclude the inland areas like Edo, the Asaba-Agbor axis, , forget the 'megaprojects' of Akwa Ibom illiteracy and poverty are almost exclusively focused in the North and 'South South' of Nigeria.



worst, investors are not interested in Nigeria's inland oil and nobody in the Niger Delta (minus Igbo, Ondo areas) knows how to refine oil, and investors what no business with Nigerian oil, especially Nigerian inland oil.




What's your point?
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Proeast2: 6:25pm On Oct 07, 2020
Openbusiness:
Let me solve your problem. Divide Nigeria, and let the 70% of the landmass (which you claim belongs to the North by your magical calculation) stand alone, and let's see if you can claim just 1 inch of ocean territory in the South, let's see whether any part of the North touches the ocean at any point. All these arguments, conflicts, tribalism, hate etc everything ENDS when Nigeria breaks.

That's why I have said and will continue to say, break up is the only solution to Nigeria's internal problems. The biggest problem this country has is the map below. Break it to pieces and watch magic happen. Those that want prosperity and development will get it. Those that don't want, will get what they want. Everyone will be ok when this map is "destroyed"! This map as it is can only continue to destroy the destiny of hundreds of millions of people. We don't belong together, no matter how you look at it. This is not a case of hate or tribalism.

Break up doesn't mean I hate this person or hate that person. This is not a matter of language, or even humanity. We all (well most of us) can speak maybe pidgin or English , can't we? So things like anguage etc is not even the issue. The issue is COMPATIBILITY. We are not compatible. What we have been doing as a geographic space for over 100 years now is trying to fit square pegs in round holes and triangular pegs in hexagonal holes. It didn't work then, it is not working now and it will never work. We have wasted the last century, imagine more than 100 years wasted for nothing.

Time is the most valuable resource in this entire world and we just threw away about 100 years. How many more centuries are we going to waste and how many tens of millions of people have to die by civil war again before we accept the truth. We don't have to kill ourselves before we separate. We can separate peacefully. This is what modern civilization is about. Humanity has gone past that way of barbarism where we have to kill ourselves by the millions before we have sense.

Restructuring will never work. Break up is the solution. Assuming we have broken up now, can you write any of this thing that you wrote? The North has land, has rivers, has mineral resources. The south has land, has the ocean and has mineral resources. So everyone has something. Even the south can not remain one. It will break into many pieces, as many as is necessary for people to be free, people to have self-determination to take their own destiny into their hands, and as many as it takes to have peace.

For example, the Southwest can't stay as one. There will be problem and conflict and killings. Some want an Islamic caliphate like their Northern counterparts. So for me, like ten Southwest needs to be broken into 3 countries; Atlantic for Christians, O'dua for Pagans and MURIC for Muslims. Then everyone can do whatever they like in their one country without issues. Nobody will say anyone is imposing or blocking their religion, and nobody will use their ideology to enslave another. The same idea applies to other regions in the South as well as the entire North.

I guess I know where he is going, and that same mindset is what made some Northern governors to be claiming that Niger Delta oil belongs to them. However, there is something he is missing which I will point out.
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Toosure70: 6:32pm On Oct 07, 2020
Still fooooool, do any northern share bandry with the water. . idiat.
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Openbusiness: 6:41pm On Oct 07, 2020
Fash20:


I get you.

He said the size of an ocean or sea that belongs to a country is proportional to the size of the country. That is what i intend to disprove.

I quoted the UNLOS to do that.
Yes, you're correct and I understand you very well. It's just that unfortunately for him, the ownership to the ocean and its oil deposits he thinks he's claiming for the North now is because Nigeria still exists. Once Nigeria breaks up, the North won't even have access to the sea or ocean, talkless of ownership grin. This OP needs to take a course in Geography. @OP, why do you think Buhari keeps doing gulder ultimate search for onshore oil in the North with Nigeria's money grin? When Nigeria breaks, everybody's eyes go clear grin Everyone still dey see double and triple now grin

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Fash20: 6:44pm On Oct 07, 2020
Openbusiness:
Yes, you're correct and I understand you very well. It's just that unfortunately for him, the ownership to the ocean and its oil deposits he thinks he's claiming for the North now is because Nigeria still exists. Once Nigeria breaks up, the North won't even have access to the sea or ocean, talkless of ownership grin. This OP needs to take a course in Geography. @OP, why do you think Buhari keeps doing gulder ultimate search for onshore oil in the North with Nigeria's money grin? When Nigeria breaks, everybody's eyes go clear grin Everyone still dey see double and triple now grin

Lol... True talk
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Openbusiness: 6:48pm On Oct 07, 2020
Proeast2:


What's your point?
His point is that the core Sharia North view the South as complete fools! Because, even when the oil feeding this country is geographically located in the South, the OP is claiming the North owns the oil. Now imagine what would have happened if the oil were geographically located in the core Sharia North territories, they would have broken away from Nigeria and formed their own caliphate country. Which further proves that One Nigeria = SCAM!

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Openbusiness: 6:59pm On Oct 07, 2020
Proeast2:


I guess I know where he is going, and that same mindset is what made some Northern governors to be claiming that Niger Delta oil belongs to them. However, there is something he is missing which I will point out.
Well, maybe they are actually correct about "owning" Niger Delta oil right now. I mean, sentiments aside, they are 100% right. They own it through the Nigerian federal system. Let's look at it one by one:
Presidency = North ✓
3 arms of government = executive + legislature + judiciary = North✓
Armed forces = Army + Navy + airforce + police + special forces + secret service + customs = North ✓
Paramilitary = North
They control the majority and/or occupy the leadership of all these above. Whoever controls the above owns the oil, as far as Nigeria is concerned. That's why the alleged claims by some Northern Oligarchs that they own the Niger Delta oil is not out of place with the present arrangement.

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by BIGGESThead6: 7:12pm On Oct 07, 2020
See as BIAFRANS DEY WAIL UPANDAN. grin grin grin grin
.THE NORTH OWN THE EAST TOO. grin

Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by StaffofOrayan(m): 7:17pm On Oct 07, 2020
Fulanis are getting bolder
Make una dey sleep

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Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by okeyglm: 7:32pm On Oct 07, 2020
This is wrong. Nigeria government during the time of obasanjo govt and yaradua govt, acquired vast nautical miles from world governing bodies of ocean marine. please get your information. Through that a lot of crude oil where discovered. nevertheless, in case of break up, all those resources away from coastal line will be shares among the nations that consists former Nigeria.
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Mokason28: 7:59pm On Oct 07, 2020
Ikengawo:


Imagine having a brain that tells you finding more oil is worst than not finding more oil.
Imagine having a brain that tells you that in 2030 world oil would go obsolete meanwhile all the oil in Nigeria belongs to the North ...
so why will your brain tell you to spend billions on oil Exploration finding more oil?

Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by hunter21(m): 9:06pm On Oct 07, 2020
The OP has said that the offshore territory that can be claimed by a country is proportional to its land mass,

Somebody else says its only when the ocean separates two countries

So this is what we have to clarify
Re: The North, Not The Niger Delta Is The Source Of Nigeria's Oil by Mokason28: 9:14pm On Oct 07, 2020
Openbusiness:
Yes, you're correct and I understand you very well. It's just that unfortunately for him, the ownership to the ocean and its oil deposits he thinks he's claiming for the North now is because Nigeria still exists. Once Nigeria breaks up, the North won't even have access to the sea or ocean, talkless of ownership grin. This OP needs to take a course in Geography. @OP, why do you think Buhari keeps doing gulder ultimate search for onshore oil in the North with Nigeria's money grin? When Nigeria breaks, everybody's eyes go clear grin Everyone still dey see double and triple now grin
Don’t mind the dull kid in 2030 oil will be gone yet Buhari is still spending Billions on oil exploration when the North owns 90 percent of the oil in Nigeria

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