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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:20pm On Oct 08, 2020
forgiveness:


2004? Why you like to dey misyan like this eh?

Na 2004 people recognize Chelsea as better club world wide

Newcastle won the premier league title before you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:21pm On Oct 08, 2020
Bia, are you gonna clone Sanusi to have two Sanusi in the same line up

And this is not a rhetorical question either shocked


O pari

slimthugchimee2:


Gk-okoye

RB-ebuehi
CB-akpoguma
Cb-troost ekong
Lb-sanusi


Mc-agu
Mc-sanusi

LWF-simon moses
AMF-iwobi
RWF-chukwueze

CF-iheanacho
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 5:22pm On Oct 08, 2020
forgiveness:


2004? Why you like to dey misyan like this eh?

Dont blame Andrew..I am very sure majority of dem started following european football keanly in '03/04 era grin grin

Not d time when we trek long distance to watch matches during d years of satellite dish owned by d richest person in d whole area cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:26pm On Oct 08, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Na 2004 people recognize Chelsea as better club world wide

Newcastle won the premier league title before you

European winners cup and Super cup Chelsea won in 1998 na Abakali or Ogbomosho world wide recognised competitions?

Why you dey misyan updan na?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:27pm On Oct 08, 2020
Yup. Apparently, Austria doesn’t recognize dual citizenship.


O pari

Subzero047:
Rohr said for Tobias Lawal to be given Nigerian passport he has to drop the Austrian passport(according to the Austrian rule)

That makes it really hard
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:30pm On Oct 08, 2020
elyte89:


Dont blame Andrew..I am very sure majority of dem started following european football keanly in '03/04 era grin grin

Not d time when we trek long distance to watch matches during d years of satellite dish owned by d richest person in d whole area cool

I agree with you. E bi like say na 2004 Andrew begin watch ball.

In the 90s, Chelsea was a very well known club. Na since that time I don dey follow Chelsea. Zola era.

True! Na true Satellite dish people dey watch matches den.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:31pm On Oct 08, 2020
Subzero047:
Rohr said for Tobias Lawal to be given Nigerian passport he has to drop the Austrian passport(according to the Austrian rule)

That makes it really hard

There are exceptions. He will eventually get one.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:34pm On Oct 08, 2020
What are the exceptions?


O pari

tbaba1234:


There are exceptions. He will eventually get one.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 5:35pm On Oct 08, 2020
Bolowolowo:


What a headache. Surely there’s gotta be an exception somewhere. As much as I love this nation, I wouldn’t even do this.

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 5:35pm On Oct 08, 2020
andrewbaba44:


hhahahahahaha

Where you dey since, na only edopesin involve for the matter

You don miss abeg cheesy
i just dey busy one kind one kind. Any update from super eagles camp?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by adrianodiwesco: 5:36pm On Oct 08, 2020
Nice to be here after donkey years. Nice interview by Rohr.
I see these guys starting tomorrow.
Gk Dele Alamplasu
Df Ebuehi, Sanusi, Balogun , Omeruo
Mf. Agu, Onyeka , Iwobi
Att. Chukwueze, Musa , Onuachu

Second half entrants : Okoye, Akpoguma, Ajayi, Ejuke, Simon, Dessers,
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 5:40pm On Oct 08, 2020
Bolowolowo:


What a headache. Surely there’s gotta be an exception somewhere. As much as I love this nation, I wouldn’t even do this.
hahahaha. I won't try it at all grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:43pm On Oct 08, 2020
Icon79:
What are the exceptions?
O pari

Born with parents with two nationalities at the time of birth is one of the exceptions. He should qualify.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:43pm On Oct 08, 2020
forgiveness:


2004? Why you like to dey misyan like this eh?

I swear to God when I clicked on this page number and began scrolling from below and saw Screenshots of Drogba with UCL trophy and his achievements.... Kaaaiiii... I just knew it is Forgiveness at it again!!!! And behold!!! It was indeed Forgiveness! Ahn ahn!

Guy!!! Wetin Naa?!! We get Match!!! U no dey tire?? Haba!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 5:44pm On Oct 08, 2020
Icon79:
Yup. Apparently, Austria doesn’t recognize dual citizenship.


O pari

very bad. There's no way tobias will agree to drop his Austria passport. It is impossicant!. What a pity to finally lose him to Austria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eazyjakes(m): 5:45pm On Oct 08, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


So despite Ndidi's high quality, his high valuation will put clubs off from fighting to sign him. Unlike Partey where there was a clear chance to sign him cheap.

Point made.

How come clubs are not fighting to sign Ndidi?

Because of his high valuation by Leicester City.

Finito.
Smiles....you just ask a question and answer yourself and write finito....interesting!
Meanwhile, there may be lots of things that could make teams not yet fighting for his signature. Ndidi is arguably one of the most hardworking footballers in world football,he is an example of hardwork trumps talent but he does have limitations on his skill set just like any other human in life.
He will get offer when the time comes from a team that are looking for his specific skill set but for now you concluding that his high valuation by leceister is the reason teams aint yet scampering for his signature is not entirely true!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:51pm On Oct 08, 2020
TheSuperNerd:


I swear to God when I clicked on this page number and began scrolling from below and saw Screenshots of Drogba with UCL trophy and his achievements.... Kaaaiiii... I just knew it is Forgiveness at it again!!!! And behold!!! It was indeed Forgiveness! Ahn ahn!

Guy!!! Wetin Naa?!! We get Match!!! U no dey tire?? Haba!

So make I no debunk lie, abi?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by shayyverr: 5:51pm On Oct 08, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
This is exactly the argument that was next in line after Partey joined Arsenal. With the number of Arsenal fans on this thread, it was inevitable that the Partey-Ndidi comparison was gonna arise again.

But I was ready. And I kept enough receipts for an attempt at a balanced analysis.


Number 1: A Fallacy - Partey is a better player than Ndidi.

I am sorry, Partey is not a better player than Ndidi. And the Stats ratings shown below (apart from how long I have watched and seen both players) from whoscored for the past four seasons support this stance.

Partey is majorly a CM with much versatile qualities but that doesn't make him better. He is a CM afterall. And his passing accuracy is expectedly meant to be higher than that of DM in Ndidi (unless the DM in question is a Regista/DLP).

Ndidi is a DM. Also referred as a CDM (central defensive midfielder) whose role is basically to sit at the Midfield's base as the team's midfield Anchorman. Partey's role is a little different. He is a CM with the licence and abilities to get forward as he wills like a Box-to-box kind.

If there is anyone in the Super Eagles fold to compare partey directly to it would be Joe Aribo. Both are very similar kind of players and can play DM, CM and AM but are basically CMs with box-to-box qualities.

In their roles, both are World class performers but I can tell you for free that while Partey has been quite rated for a while due to his constant appearance in the UCL with Atletico Madrid, it is Ndidi who has been showing better improvements in the past two seasons compared to Partey (My next fallacy point will address one of the improvement areas - Passing).

Also, in Defensive actions alone, Partey has very decent numbers but he is no where close to the monstrosity of Ndidi's numbers in defensive actions. Ndidi led the whole of Europe (or was in top2/top3 on a few) in several defensive action stats and some others from Tackling, to interceptions per 90, to blocks, to counter pressures, to counter pressures turned immediately into an attack and more. So the comment that Partey does all that Ndidi does and more is fallacious. Partey only does it to a certain percentage but Ndidi does it at World class levels. That is the big difference. Partey only passes more, is more forward playing and that is it. He is a Bloody CM Naa.


Now on this point, the summary is this...VERSATILITY DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN BETTER. Afterall, if it is otherwise and Versatility always mean better then Etebo can also be said to be much better than both Partey and Ndidi. Etebo also gives prpgressive passes forward and his numbers at Gala are already racking up strongly. At the WC, Etebo has more take ons in one game against the WC finalists, Croatia than any other midfielder. Can Partey dream of such? Etebo's tackles rate is also up there... His interceptions game is also good and none of these two guys touch him on take-ons. Does that make him better? Versatility doesn't always mean better my good folks.

Bonus: Even as controversial as EA sports ratings can be sometimes, Ndidi has caught up with Partey as both players are now given the same Overall rating with 84 each.

In FIFA 19, Partey was 82. Ndidi was 81. In FIFA 20, partey was 84. Ndidi came up to 84 also. In FIFA 21, both remain on 84 with Ndidi having a potential cap of 88. Partey's 87.







Number 2: The passing stats. Partey or Ndidi. Who passes better?

On the overall, like I stated above, Partey is expected to having the better passing stats. And the whoscored ratings below prove that Partey has been the better ball passer in terms of Passing accuracy.

Even when I break the passing stats further down using Squawka stats matrix, you will find that Partey still edges it overall. Partey is definitely the more progressive passer of the two. No debates on that one.

But I have to point out something. Partey have always beaten Ndidi when it comes to Passing accuracy and for me, that is no surprise seeing as both are slightly different breeds of midfielders with actually different roles BUT JUST LAST SEASON, NDIDI HAD THE BETTER PASSING ACCURACY compared to Partey. Now that is shocking and true.

This again supports my statement that between the two, Ndidi is the one who has shown better improvements geometrically. "Out-passing" a ball-playing CM while still in your DM role (and you are no bloody Regista) mehn, that is something to take note of and keep a serious eye on. Ndidi's passing game has definitely made a quantum leap under Rodgers at Leicester in the past one year plus and the argument of Partey being a better passer will only hold now based on their previous seasons before 2019/2020.

With that said, Partey still made more passes in the Opposition half last season (770 in all) compared to Ndidi's 692.
In their own half, Ndidi made more (729) compared to Partey's 600.
Last season also, Partey delivered more throughballs (6) into the final third compared to Ndidi's 2.



So yes, Partey is the more progressive passer of the two but Ndidi has shown improvements in those progressing passing stats too as his numbers tell.

But when it comes to overall passing accuracy, Ndidi edged Partey for the first time, last season. That shows Ndidi really made crazy improvement in his passing game.




Number 3: The final point. Ndidi's Worth and Partey's Worth

You guys should be honest. If Ndidi had a release clause set at maybe 50M pounds, do you think some big club would not have come asking strong questions about the Midfield Anchorman?

But as it stands, there is no release clause on Ndidi so he could cost even higher. He has "a little arguably" been the Best DM in the EPL for the past three seasons and since his debut in the 2016/2017 campaign (from January 2017 even) he has been racking up numbers that only scream World class in that DM role. Numbers that absolutely define that DM role. So how much do you think he is gonna cost? Remember he is not coming from another league... He has been racking up those numbers in England. So that makes him even more valuable on the market for EPL clubs.


Partey had a release clause and to be honest, has Arsenal gotten Hossem Aouar, they won't have bothered with Partey this window. That is the truth. Arsenal fans in the house know this is true. Arsenal only went to activate Partey's clause that late b'cos they finally saw that they won't be getting Aouar this window. So they went for the guy they always considered their next midfield priority after Aouar.

If Arsenal wanted Partey that badly, why didn't they activate the clause a little sooner? Why wait till deadline day? It is b'cos Aouar was their top priority and not Partey. And 45M for Partey to make up on missing out on Aouar was a fair price to pay for the board to make to appease Arsenal fans and to make Mikel Arteta much happier with his current squad going forward.

If Andrewbaba44 can recall, I made a prediction on Leicester's next transfer big money sale some time ago before 2019/2020 season began or so... I mentioned Ben Chillwell, Maddison and Ndidi as the next guys that will bring in Huge cash for Leicester in the coming seasons.

So far so good, Chillwell has brought in 50M pounds for Leicester. Just like I predicted and we all know Ndidi will cost a little more than Chillwell. I understand Chillwell is English and has that "English factor" going for him hence his price tag but Ndidi has been the man in the EPL with crazy DM numbers and the whole of England knows that. So there is absolutely no way he won't go for more than his Transfermrkt.com value price currently put at 45M euros.

Ndidi will easily cost more than Partey. He is younger. And also a world class performer. So that is it.


In conclusion, Arsenal got a really fine player in Partey. And I say Congratulations... But I won't accept the fallacy that he is a much better player than Ndidi when Whoscored and even Sofascore say otherwise three times out of the past four seasons.

Good day to you all. cool

I agree with you coupled with the fact that ndidi is reluctant to move because he's studying at de monfort University

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 5:54pm On Oct 08, 2020
My starting line up for tomorrow. .

Dele

Ebuehi. . . Awaziem. . .Ekong. . .Sanusi

Ajayi. . .Onyeka.

Samu. . . Iwobi. . .Kalu

. . . Kelechi. . .

Agu to come in for Frank

Dessres for Kelechi

simon and Ejuke for samu and kalu respectively
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:00pm On Oct 08, 2020
forgiveness:


So make I no debunk lie, abi?

Nooo... Not that. But you are always on a "debunking hunt" especially with screenshots of different kinds.... Kaaaiii... You ehn. Small time you go even debunk yourself. Lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:03pm On Oct 08, 2020
TheSuperNerd:


Nooo... Not that. But you are always on a "debunking hunt" especially with screenshots of different kinds.... Kaaaiii... You ehn. Small time you go even debunk yourself. Lol

Hahahaha! Abeg carry your wahala go. Lmao. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:04pm On Oct 08, 2020
Thazard:


My name is Ufouma and I'm an Urhobo guy.

Kevin is an Urhobo guy but I don't like him

Why?

When Nigeria was invited him some years ago,he said his heart is with Germany.And he would wait till 25,if Germany doesn't call him,he would consider Nigeria.


Imagine such Blasphemy.

Yes, I understand how you feel.

But sometimes we also need to put ourselves in the shoes of some of these foreign born players. A lot of them feel more attached to the country of their birth where they lived and were nurtured as compared to a Nigeria they have never visited.

Germany was always first choice for Akpoguma but since his German dream didn't happen,he then had to fall back to his other country of nationality-Nigeria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:05pm On Oct 08, 2020
mostob:
My starting line up for tomorrow. .

Dele

Ebuehi. . . Awaziem. . .Ekong. . .Sanusi

Ajayi. . .Onyeka.

Samu. . . Iwobi. . .Kalu

. . . Kelechi. . .

Agu to come in for Frank

Dessres for Kelechi

simon and Ejuke for samu and kalu respectively

And what would be the tactical reasons for your substitutions?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:08pm On Oct 08, 2020
TheSuperNerd:


I swear to God when I clicked on this page number and began scrolling from below and saw Screenshots of Drogba with UCL trophy and his achievements.... Kaaaiiii... I just knew it is Forgiveness at it again!!!! And behold!!! It was indeed Forgiveness! Ahn ahn!

Guy!!! Wetin Naa?!! We get Match!!! U no dey tire?? Haba!

grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:11pm On Oct 08, 2020
WORLD BEATERS The 30 biggest clubs in world football, including Manchester United, Liverpool, and Barcelona

The teams were ranked by France Football on the basis of 10 factors such as trophies won and legendary players

By talkSPORT
12th February 2019, 7:23 pm
Updated: 12th February 2019, 7:24 pm

There are a variety of factors that determine what makes a big club, trophies won, legendary players, stadium capacity and so on.
The end result usually causes plenty of debate among supporters, keen to put forward their argument as to what makes their beloved club the best.


Real Madrid have long been considered the best team in the world

Real Madrid have long been considered the best team in the world
Thankfully, France Football have managed to compile a list of the 30 biggest clubs in the world and have based the end results on ten specific reasons, with each worth points.

They are:

1 Number of players in the squad to have won a World Cup
2. Continent level titles won (eg; Champions League),
3. Shirts sold per year
4. Annual revenue
5. Record transfer fee paid
6. Average attendance
7. Market value of current squad
8. Ballon d’Or trophies won since 1956
9. Social media followers
10. Clubs with the biggest mythical status

According to these criteria, the top biggest clubs in the world are:

1. Real Madrid
2. Barcelona
3. ManU
4. Bayern Munich
5. Liverpool
6. Juventus
7. PSG
8. Chelsea
9. Manchester City
10. Arsenal

Apparently, Arsenal is bigger than Athletico Madrid based on these criteria.

Aside Odion, which Nigerian player is currently in any of these clubs?

I am not talking about the best clubs now ooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 6:12pm On Oct 08, 2020
Maybe its Sani Keita




Danielnino00:

Who is Kaita?? undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 6:14pm On Oct 08, 2020
tbaba1234:


Born with parents with two nationalities at the time of birth is one of the exceptions. He should qualify.

Yup

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:15pm On Oct 08, 2020
eazyjakes:

Smiles....you just ask a question and answer yourself and write finito....interesting!
Meanwhile, there may be lots of things that could make teams not yet fighting for his signature. Ndidi is arguably one of the most hardworking footballers in world football,he is an example of hardwork trumps talent but he does have limitations on his skill set just like any other human in life.
He will get offer when the time comes from a team that are looking for his specific skill set but for now you concluding that his high valuation by leceister is the reason teams aint yet scampering for his signature is not entirely true!

With time, Ndidi's contract will run down and teams will be able to make proper bids. For now his valuation will be too high to fight for his signature.

If Ndidi was a £45m valued player now, other clubs will want his quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lloydtruth: 6:16pm On Oct 08, 2020
mostob:
My starting line up for tomorrow. .

Dele

Ebuehi. . . Awaziem. . .Ekong. . .Sanusi

Ajayi. . .Onyeka.

Samu. . . Iwobi. . .Kalu

. . . Kelechi. . .

Agu to come in for Frank

Dessres for Kelechi

simon and Ejuke for samu and kalu respectively
For once somebody rated Awaziem. I wonder why we don't rate him here, he's actually better than most of the names been mentioned here for CB position, especially Ajayi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 6:30pm On Oct 08, 2020
FIFA has rejected a request from the Moroccan football federation to let Munir El Haddadi change his nationality from Spain to Morocco despite the new eligibility rules last month, this is due to Munir playing a match for Spain’s U21s in 2016 after his 21st birthday.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:30pm On Oct 08, 2020
forgiveness:
WORLD BEATERS The 30 biggest clubs in world football, including Manchester United, Liverpool, and Barcelona

The teams were ranked by France Football on the basis of 10 factors such as trophies won and legendary players

By talkSPORT
12th February 2019, 7:23 pm
Updated: 12th February 2019, 7:24 pm

There are a variety of factors that determine what makes a big club, trophies won, legendary players, stadium capacity and so on.
The end result usually causes plenty of debate among supporters, keen to put forward their argument as to what makes their beloved club the best.


Real Madrid have long been considered the best team in the world

Real Madrid have long been considered the best team in the world
Thankfully, France Football have managed to compile a list of the 30 biggest clubs in the world and have based the end results on ten specific reasons, with each worth points.

They are:

1 Number of players in the squad to have won a World Cup
2. Continent level titles won (eg; Champions League),
3. Shirts sold per year
4. Annual revenue
5. Record transfer fee paid
6. Average attendance
7. Market value of current squad
8. Ballon d’Or trophies won since 1956
9. Social media followers
10. Clubs with the biggest mythical status

According to these criteria, the top biggest clubs in the world are:

1. Real Madrid
2. Barcelona
3. ManU
4. Bayern Munich
5. Liverpool
6. Juventus
7. PSG
8. Chelsea
9. Manchester City
10. Arsenal

Apparently, Arsenal is bigger than Athletico Madrid based on these criteria.

Aside Odion, which Nigerian player is currently in any of these clubs?

I am not talking about the best clubs now ooo.

The in house football experts and laliga fanboys think Atletico are bigger. LMAO..

Guy abeg,we get match tomorrow grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:34pm On Oct 08, 2020
nelszx:
FIFA has rejected a request from the Moroccan football federation to let Munir El Haddadi change his nationality from Spain to Morocco despite the new eligibility rules last month, this is due to Munir playing a match for Spain’s U21s in 2016 after his 21st birthday.

Chai! ..

This guy don fall hand by himself..

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