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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olageorgy: 1:20pm On Oct 11, 2020
Need a very good bricklayer, Honest, Hardworking and loyal. That can do his or her job within agreed time. No Contractor should apply. Also no ''OGA'' Bricklayer should apply. We need someone that will be on the job when needed. The right person must be living around Ado-ota LGA ogun state. or around Winners Chapel HQ (Canaanland). contact email: buildingmannaija@gmail.com, olageorgy@gmail.com

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:47pm On Oct 11, 2020
olageorgy:
Need a very good bricklayer, Honest, Hardworking and loyal. That can do his or her job without at agreed time. No Contractor should apply. Also no ''OGA'' Bricklayer should apply. We need someone that will be on the job when needed. The right person must be living around Ado-ota LGA ogun state. or around Winners Chapel HQ (Canaanland). contact email: buildingmannaija@gmail.com, olageorgy@gmail.com

You’ve just described my current mason team.

They arrive like clockwork on Monday morning live on site and work for two weeks then go home two days.

Just calls me to supply materials when it runs low.

I setup a construction company around them though they’re still freelancing.

Good luck on your search.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 1:48pm On Oct 11, 2020
olageorgy:
Need a very good bricklayer, Honest, Hardworking and loyal. That can do his or her job without at agreed time. No Contractor should apply. Also no ''OGA'' Bricklayer should apply. We need someone that will be on the job when needed. The right person must be living around Ado-ota LGA ogun state. or around Winners Chapel HQ (Canaanland). contact email: buildingmannaija@gmail.com, olageorgy@gmail.com
Chai, "No contractor and Oga bricklayer" should apply, nawao, Abeg, soft pedal na, make boys apply to see money chop semovita and Efo riro and bokoto grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 1:50pm On Oct 11, 2020
*Estate Residents Can’t Be Compelled to Pay Dues; Court Rules*

A Federal High Court in Ikoyi, Lagos, has delivered a landmark judgement that Nigerians who live in a residential estate cannot be compelled to be a member of the Community Development Association (CDA) popularly known as residents’ association of estate.

This decision of the Court has put an end to any future arbitrariness of resident associations in Nigeria.
By this decision, payment of dues is now voluntary and forcing residents to be members has now been declared unconstitutional.

Residents in Lagos State will no longer be subjected and compelled to pay outrageous membership dues and other levies.
The judgement was delivered on Friday, 25th of September, 2020, by Honorable Justice Oweibo, sitting at the Federal High Court, Ikoyi, Lagos.

This suit *(FHC/L/CS/982/2020)* was filed by Megawatts Nigeria Ltd (Applicant) through its counsel Mr. Kayode Adeniji of Lawracles LP, against the Registered Trustees of Gbagada Phase II Residents’ Association and others as respondents.

Facts deposed to on court processes show that Gbagada Phase II Residents Association had been sending notices: requesting the payment of estate dues from 2017 to 2020 for sums ranging from 300 hundred thousand to 200 thousand naira annually, to Megawatts Nigeria Limited.

The position of the Residents Association is that since Megawatts Nig. Ltd is a company resident within the estate, it is bound to pay demanded dues and levies.

The position of megawatts on the other hand is that since it provides for its own security, waste management and other services the estate claims to be providing, it is not bound to pay dues. This is in addition to the fact that Megawatts is not a member of the association.

Megawatts further claimed that the estate security prevented its trucks from accessing the estate in order to compel and coerce the applicant to pay requested fees.

‘The primary issue before the court was whether a person; resident in an estate can be compelled and coerced into membership of a resident association?

The court ruled in favour of Megawatts Nig. Ltd and awarded cost against Gbagada Phase II Residents Association. The court further declared that no one can be forced to be a member of a residential association, be it a company operating within the space of the residential estate or a person who is a resident in that estate.

The court considered section 40 of the 1999 CFRN as Amended which states that:
“Every person shall be entitled to assemble freely and associate with other persons, and in particular he may form or belong to any political party, trade union or any other association for the protection of his interest ....’’

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:54pm On Oct 11, 2020
AngelicBeing:
Chai, "No contractor and Oga bricklayer" should apply, nawao, Abeg, soft pedal na, make boys apply to see money chop semovita and Efo riro and bokoto grin

grin

Some of the characters have shown us pepper o. Imagine giving mason work to a mason that jut puts his apprentice on the job and you never see him shocked

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 1:59pm On Oct 11, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


grin

Some of the characters have shown us pepper o. Imagine giving mason work to a mason that jut puts his apprentice on the job and you never see him shocked
Falls down with my bag on my way to Emirates stadium grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:33pm On Oct 11, 2020
AngelicBeing:
Falls down with my bag on my way to Emirates stadium grin

Walahi, I've been asked if "I expected him to be laying blocks" grin

I actually apologized because he got me. Our agreement didn't specify who will be laying blocks. He was just a "Baranda Bricklayer". He goes around getting jobs and giving it out. And the actually Mason told me that "I might be the owner but I didn't give the job to him".

Nigeria is a complicated country. I love her with every fiber of my body.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vickzie(m): 2:55pm On Oct 11, 2020
in a block of flats apartment with a gate man, who pays the gateman, landlord or tenants?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 2:59pm On Oct 11, 2020
Abudu2000:
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Please make use of the internet about this subject matter to clear your doubts.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:03pm On Oct 11, 2020
seg123:
I'm not a regular follower of the forum and I did not get the details of the background of the case with this guy HLSbroker or so. But the guy is a scammer ! He did similar thing to me and I said I will report him to everyone here in this forum. He begged me that he will complete my job in Akure, but up till now he never did. I decided to wave it, until I started reading this about him today. Beware of this shylock, he is a scammer !!!


with all due respect sir, am not here to defend myself nor either do I come here to bring up the past, I know we all directly or indirectly make mistakes, correcting our mistakes and move on to be a better person is as important as the air we breath to stay alive.

when was this job initiated, and what is the nature of the job, because in all I can remember the last work I did was at ondo, was at ife garage for doc, and my job was perfect, the thread is still here on nairaland, and that was about 5yrs ago, pls sir, let me know when I collected this job from u sir, thanks, it can be resolve right here.

thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:08pm On Oct 11, 2020
omanzo02:


It's obvious you are ignorant to what vaccine is and the safety procedures it goes through before approval for safe use,.... Nigeria don't have the laboratory to certify vaccines nor develop an ingredient to make one.
You haven't seen a covid-19 patient, so that assertion and assumption is complete rubbish.
Grafic curve shows infections in age groups.



You can keep up with your graphic curve.
Probably you'll get a foreign acceptable vaccine from 2023.....if it's even possible.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 3:09pm On Oct 11, 2020
vickzie:
in a block of flats apartment with a gate man, who pays the gateman, landlord or tenants?
everyone including the landlord
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smallsmall: 3:10pm On Oct 11, 2020
n3xt:


Try find out how much they pay a truck per trip to Atlantic City, Lagos.

Fourth Mainland Bridge is coming shortly. You better go invest in trucks. One of my uncles made his fortune from the construction Third Mainland Bridge. He had 30 Bedfords in the 80s.


Someone with 30 Bedfords in the 80's, is already in fortune.
Drivers of those days are not the same with the mad ones of today. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smallsmall: 3:20pm On Oct 11, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smallsmall: 3:32pm On Oct 11, 2020
michlins:
#20,000 pere oh. Like I said, it's shikini money

No be #18,000 again? shocked
See wetin we dey talk, once you don dey get 'Likes'', na to dey increase price every week.
grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smallsmall: 3:44pm On Oct 11, 2020
vickzie:
in a block of flats apartment with a gate man, who pays the gateman, landlord or tenants?

Who is the gateman opening the gate for?
Whose vehicle does he wash (if he does)
Who sends him around to buy things?
Whose Car does he watch over, at night?
There lies your answer.

I am not a gateman so please dont quote me, i am just standing-in for Yakubu at the gate.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by edoman2016: 3:45pm On Oct 11, 2020
gabbytabby:
*Estate Residents Can’t Be Compelled to Pay Dues; Court Rules*

A Federal High Court in Ikoyi, Lagos, has delivered a landmark judgement that Nigerians who live in a residential estate cannot be compelled to be a member of the Community Development Association (CDA) popularly known as residents’ association of estate.

This decision of the Court has put an end to any future arbitrariness of resident associations in Nigeria.
By this decision, payment of dues is now voluntary and forcing residents to be members has now been declared unconstitutional.

Residents in Lagos State will no longer be subjected and compelled to pay outrageous membership dues and other levies.
The judgement was delivered on Friday, 25th of September, 2020, by Honorable Justice Oweibo, sitting at the Federal High Court, Ikoyi, Lagos.

This suit *(FHC/L/CS/982/2020)* was filed by Megawatts Nigeria Ltd (Applicant) through its counsel Mr. Kayode Adeniji of Lawracles LP, against the Registered Trustees of Gbagada Phase II Residents’ Association and others as respondents.

Facts deposed to on court processes show that Gbagada Phase II Residents Association had been sending notices: requesting the payment of estate dues from 2017 to 2020 for sums ranging from 300 hundred thousand to 200 thousand naira annually, to Megawatts Nigeria Limited.

The position of the Residents Association is that since Megawatts Nig. Ltd is a company resident within the estate, it is bound to pay demanded dues and levies.

The position of megawatts on the other hand is that since it provides for its own security, waste management and other services the estate claims to be providing, it is not bound to pay dues. This is in addition to the fact that Megawatts is not a member of the association.

Megawatts further claimed that the estate security prevented its trucks from accessing the estate in order to compel and coerce the applicant to pay requested fees.

‘The primary issue before the court was whether a person; resident in an estate can be compelled and coerced into membership of a resident association?

The court ruled in favour of Megawatts Nig. Ltd and awarded cost against Gbagada Phase II Residents Association. The court further declared that no one can be forced to be a member of a residential association, be it a company operating within the space of the residential estate or a person who is a resident in that estate.

The court considered section 40 of the 1999 CFRN as Amended which states that:
“Every person shall be entitled to assemble freely and associate with other persons, and in particular he may form or belong to any political party, trade union or any other association for the protection of his interest ....’’
Enforcement of the service charge law on estate developers will be difficult because most residents already sign to pay service charge in their deed of agreement after land purchase.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by edoman2016: 3:45pm On Oct 11, 2020
gabbytabby:
*Estate Residents Can’t Be Compelled to Pay Dues; Court Rules*

A Federal High Court in Ikoyi, Lagos, has delivered a landmark judgement that Nigerians who live in a residential estate cannot be compelled to be a member of the Community Development Association (CDA) popularly known as residents’ association of estate.

This decision of the Court has put an end to any future arbitrariness of resident associations in Nigeria.
By this decision, payment of dues is now voluntary and forcing residents to be members has now been declared unconstitutional.

Residents in Lagos State will no longer be subjected and compelled to pay outrageous membership dues and other levies.
The judgement was delivered on Friday, 25th of September, 2020, by Honorable Justice Oweibo, sitting at the Federal High Court, Ikoyi, Lagos.

This suit *(FHC/L/CS/982/2020)* was filed by Megawatts Nigeria Ltd (Applicant) through its counsel Mr. Kayode Adeniji of Lawracles LP, against the Registered Trustees of Gbagada Phase II Residents’ Association and others as respondents.

Facts deposed to on court processes show that Gbagada Phase II Residents Association had been sending notices: requesting the payment of estate dues from 2017 to 2020 for sums ranging from 300 hundred thousand to 200 thousand naira annually, to Megawatts Nigeria Limited.

The position of the Residents Association is that since Megawatts Nig. Ltd is a company resident within the estate, it is bound to pay demanded dues and levies.

The position of megawatts on the other hand is that since it provides for its own security, waste management and other services the estate claims to be providing, it is not bound to pay dues. This is in addition to the fact that Megawatts is not a member of the association.

Megawatts further claimed that the estate security prevented its trucks from accessing the estate in order to compel and coerce the applicant to pay requested fees.

‘The primary issue before the court was whether a person; resident in an estate can be compelled and coerced into membership of a resident association?

The court ruled in favour of Megawatts Nig. Ltd and awarded cost against Gbagada Phase II Residents Association. The court further declared that no one can be forced to be a member of a residential association, be it a company operating within the space of the residential estate or a person who is a resident in that estate.

The court considered section 40 of the 1999 CFRN as Amended which states that:
“Every person shall be entitled to assemble freely and associate with other persons, and in particular he may form or belong to any political party, trade union or any other association for the protection of his interest ....’’
Enforcement of the law on estate developers will be difficult because most residents already sign to pay service charge in their deed of agreement after land purchase.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by edoman2016: 3:45pm On Oct 11, 2020
gabbytabby:
*Estate Residents Can’t Be Compelled to Pay Dues; Court Rules*

A Federal High Court in Ikoyi, Lagos, has delivered a landmark judgement that Nigerians who live in a residential estate cannot be compelled to be a member of the Community Development Association (CDA) popularly known as residents’ association of estate.

This decision of the Court has put an end to any future arbitrariness of resident associations in Nigeria.
By this decision, payment of dues is now voluntary and forcing residents to be members has now been declared unconstitutional.

Residents in Lagos State will no longer be subjected and compelled to pay outrageous membership dues and other levies.
The judgement was delivered on Friday, 25th of September, 2020, by Honorable Justice Oweibo, sitting at the Federal High Court, Ikoyi, Lagos.

This suit *(FHC/L/CS/982/2020)* was filed by Megawatts Nigeria Ltd (Applicant) through its counsel Mr. Kayode Adeniji of Lawracles LP, against the Registered Trustees of Gbagada Phase II Residents’ Association and others as respondents.

Facts deposed to on court processes show that Gbagada Phase II Residents Association had been sending notices: requesting the payment of estate dues from 2017 to 2020 for sums ranging from 300 hundred thousand to 200 thousand naira annually, to Megawatts Nigeria Limited.

The position of the Residents Association is that since Megawatts Nig. Ltd is a company resident within the estate, it is bound to pay demanded dues and levies.

The position of megawatts on the other hand is that since it provides for its own security, waste management and other services the estate claims to be providing, it is not bound to pay dues. This is in addition to the fact that Megawatts is not a member of the association.

Megawatts further claimed that the estate security prevented its trucks from accessing the estate in order to compel and coerce the applicant to pay requested fees.

‘The primary issue before the court was whether a person; resident in an estate can be compelled and coerced into membership of a resident association?

The court ruled in favour of Megawatts Nig. Ltd and awarded cost against Gbagada Phase II Residents Association. The court further declared that no one can be forced to be a member of a residential association, be it a company operating within the space of the residential estate or a person who is a resident in that estate.

The court considered section 40 of the 1999 CFRN as Amended which states that:
“Every person shall be entitled to assemble freely and associate with other persons, and in particular he may form or belong to any political party, trade union or any other association for the protection of his interest ....’’
Enforcement of the law on estate developers will be difficult because most residents sign to pay service charge in their agreement after land purchase. Infact, haven't you noticed that most estate developers issue deed of sub-lease rather than the usual deed of assignment to their residents. It is deliberate. It means they still have control over the ownership of the land in perpetuity their supposed estate residents thought they have purchased. Buying land from private estate in Nigeria is a scam.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smallsmall: 3:47pm On Oct 11, 2020
twinskenny:
everyone including the landlord

are you assuming the landlord lives in the same house?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olaleye2real(m): 3:47pm On Oct 11, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:54pm On Oct 11, 2020
smallsmall:


Who is the gateman opening the gate for?
Whose vehicle does he wash (if he does)
Who sends him around to buy things?

Whose Car does he watch over, at night?
There lies your answer.

I am not a gateman so please dont quote me, i am just standing-in for Yakubu at the gate.



The work of the gateman is strictly at the gate and by extension move around the external surrounding within the compound.


Why do Nigerians prefer their gateman to do the bolded.....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 4:05pm On Oct 11, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


Walahi, I've been asked if "I expected him to be laying blocks" grin

I actually apologized because he got me. Our agreement didn't specify who will be laying blocks. He was just a "Baranda Bricklayer". He goes around getting jobs and giving it out. And the actually Mason told me that "I might be the owner but I didn't give the job to him".

Nigeria is a complicated country. I love her with every fiber of my body.
l get your drift, I also went through similar situation when I was building in lagos although l was on ground in Nigeria then so l wasn't fleeced much, they fleeced me when I returned back to the West. Nigeria na dog chop dog society cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 4:07pm On Oct 11, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:22pm On Oct 11, 2020
smallsmall:


No be #18,000 again? shocked
See wetin we dey talk, once you don dey get 'Likes'', na to dey increase price every week.
grin grin
what did you buy 18,000 last week that's still same price till date.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 4:47pm On Oct 11, 2020
smallsmall:


are you assuming the landlord lives in the same house?
yes sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lorhema(f): 4:58pm On Oct 11, 2020
vickzie:
in a block of flats apartment with a gate man, who pays the gateman, landlord or tenants?

It varies.
In one case, the tenants pay the gateman.

In another, the landlord pays the gateman using the service charge. In this case, the gateman gets tips from tenants he runs errands for. My experience.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by JustCryptos: 5:17pm On Oct 11, 2020
Guys please, I need help.

The engineer on my project sent this as a quote for plastering a 3 bedroom flat (all ensuite) with a visitor's toilet.

Labour
Ranging plastering
Inside plastering is #120,000. Outside plastering is #90,000. Windows dressing is #45,000.

Not Ranging plastering
To plaster all the houses is #170,000. Inside and outside. No window dressing.

Materials
Two trips of gum sand and two trips trips of shape sand and 110 bags of cement.

When I asked the difference between the two, he said in the first one they'll dress the plaster and plum it to be level. This won't be done in the second case. I can't wrap my head around plastering a house and not making sure it's level.

Secondly, I thought plastering a room takes 3 bags of cement? I did my calculations with 4 bags to be on the safe side. However, the engineer is saying each room of around 3.6*3.6m will take 5 bags using ranging method.

Experts please what's your take on this?
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 5:18pm On Oct 11, 2020
lorhema:


It varies.
In one case, the tenants pay the gateman.

In another, the landlord pays the gateman using the service charge. In this case, the gateman gets tips from tenants he runs errands for. My experience.

Right
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:19pm On Oct 11, 2020
smallsmall:


No be #18,000 again? shocked
See wetin we dey talk, once you don dey get 'Likes'', na to dey increase price every week.
grin grin

You this man grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 5:21pm On Oct 11, 2020
smallsmall:



Chinese? America or Indian batteries? shocked
I am sure a 200AH American or German battery wont sell at the same price as a Chinese one or am l wrong?
Please mention the origin of the battery so we can properly understand price

You are right America battery is about 145,000
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:22pm On Oct 11, 2020
lorhema:


It varies.
In one case, the tenants pay the gateman.

In another, the landlord pays the gateman using the service charge. In this case, the gateman gets tips from tenants he runs errands for. My experience.

That’s what I intend to do. The gateman represents the facility. His salary is already factored into the agreement.

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