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Golan007:
Yours is defective.

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raphieMontella:
Very commendable..

Irrespective of how the strike affects us students, I'm in support of this...

ASUU only cares about means of collecting money and nothing else...

We die here... Even if na March next year we go resume for ASUU to sit up and have sense no wahala

You go wait tire. New admisions not yet processed. So automatically, there will be no Jamb like 1996. We will see what happens.

#EndAsuuStrikeNow

SAVE OUR FUTURE!

Good... Nice one from the federal government..

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Golan007:
Shut up.

How have the lecturers that you rate so highly impacted the Nigerian society?

What is their impact on the Nigerian economy apart from taking up multiple roles in several universities making it even more difficult for the younger ones to have opportunities.

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Ustec:
Rome wasn't built in day, I believe if all institutions can accept this payment system, sooner or later, the so called public holders will follow suit when the citizens start protesting and insist they do the same thing.

The appropriate word here should have been Leadership by example. They should cut off all the bogus allowances and serve as a civil servant on the same payroll and let's see if others won't support them.

sinkhole:
They have done that since July 2020, this is October, why are they just announcing now?

Exactly. FG stopped paying the salaries of the lecturers since July. This govt and propaganda.

Story.... When lots have registered.. They should continue fighting

AniwetaluEmma:
This is the last minute ditch to coarse dogged ASUU member to register with IPPIS. The fact remains that people don't understand how that Union work. That is the union of intellectuals who are ready die for what they believe be in. ASUU took on Abacha in military regime let alone Buhari in democratic setting. ASUU is ready to close school down until Buhari leave office.
ASUU is not a union your threaten with non payment of salary.
If IPPIS is good why are other sister unions in the university who have enrolled backing out.
NASU, SANU and NAAT are on warning strike now.
If you are a lecturer, don't be cowed by this news. Stick with the Union. Victory is sure!

Ibegtodiffer:
Your write-up void and ladden with crass ignorance. You know near to nothing about what you're saying.

1. while you are here commending, all the children of these elites are studying abroad. They shut down your own "substandard" universities & send their own kids out of the country, and you're hailing.

2. Just so you know, ghost workers is near impossible in academia. There's the need for evidence of what course, who teaches & when, monitored periodically by NUC. If it's inconsistent, you risk partial or failed accreditation. Moreover, if there were ghost Lecturers, you won't be hearing about lecturing in 2 or more universities.

3. On what ASUU has achieved, a lot. More than half the students in public universities would have been dropouts by now, if ASUU hadn't rejected the FG earlier proposed 350k to 500k school fees.

4. Just so you know, significantly over 50% of ASUU members are MSc or PhD students in Nigeria. Less than 30% of ASUU members study abroad under TETFUND. A good number worked hard enough to obtain foreign scholarships abroad. Hence not all Lecturers abroad are funded by TETFUND.

5. The said TETFUND is actually the brainchild of ASUU! so is NEEDS. All Lecture halls, Hostels, Vehicles, Chairs, Lab equipment, Books etc that has TETFUND or NEEDS ASSESSMENT crested on them are products of ASUU struggles. They went through hunger, sickness and death in some cases for these to come into fruition. Something a lot of people are unaware of. A huge number of Nigerians do not even know that TETFUND is not funded by FG!!! Do your investigation on this, since na u sabi pass.

6. What have Lecturers invented? That's the problem with FG propaganda. You want inventions in a University that is grossly underfunded. Does that add up? Australia just released 1B dollars intervention fund to universities last week. Reason is, international students were slow in paying up their fees. That is how much they value education. That is not part of the annual education budget. But Nigerian politicians would rather shutdown Universities, strangulate her intellectuals, distabilize academic calendar and frustrate the students, instead of spending 350Million dollars for a period of six years. What a stench.
During this pandemic, without salaries and without FG funding, several Universities have developed Ventilators that are currently up for commercialization. Rapid diagnostic kits for COVID-19 have been developed and commercialized already. Drugs are at advanced levels in at least 2 public universities in Nigeria. ASUU does not have the financial muscle to match FG's propaganda or control the disappointing money controlled media. But it is definitely working. Unknown to Nigerians, the current ASUU strike permits members to go into research that can salvage the pandemic challenges. Who will report these developments?

7. What is Nigeria's University certificate worth abroad? This the more reason for massive funding of these institutions. Despite a limited premium on our certificates, significant number of Nigeria students perform excellently abroad. Our universities produce good students, that can compete globally, yet, their certificates are less regarded. Isn't that a significant signal, that our universities can do more with a little more funding?

8. Extended retirement of 70 age does not mean Lecturers want to die there. Recently, the Nobel price award in Chemistry was won by a 91 year old academic. It is scientifically proven that the brain cells are one of the most long lasting. Professionalism improves with years of work. Moreover, how come the retirement age of politicians doesn't worry you?

thank you so much for this piece

amerengues:
I am quoting you and replying you because you didn’t insult in responding as most Nairalander do thus, I hardly comment.

We argue to gain more enlightenment and if in the process, we encounter superior arguments, we should accept it.

You made a valid point by referring to the ghost workers issue- we don’t want ghost workers that sap our resources struggling to go round.

ASUU went on strike before pandemic thus it wasn’t in the midst of pandemic; It wasn’t because of IPPIS that they started the strike; This same government agreed at a time that they are willing to looking into the alternative ASUU will present which is UTAS since it accommodates most of the peculiarities IPPIS is devoid of

eg Adjunct lecturers (Hardly will you see any department/faculty with adjunct Lecturers from the industry). An engineering faculty with a course on Engineering law (just an illustration)may borrow lecturers. Also, those presently on IPPIS in other ministry have started complaining of the irregularities because I have a colleague who complained recently.

To rectify issues, you might need to travel to Abuja (Security, finance, stress, not meeting them on seat and telling you to come tomorrow), why hasn’t the Government decentralized this IPPIS. A friend has been advised to travel to Abuja recently.

We are quick to forget that this strike is premised on the follow up on previous agreement the government has successfully renegaded on without no commitment to do anything significant. IPPIS main issue came up when the stopped salary in which strike was on before the focus shifted to IPPIS.

Again, I ask, students have never supported revitalization and adequate funding and we are quick to condemn some persons who wants that. Government really fears the students’ protest but unfortunately they don’t protest for better education or support the struggle since we all want to quickly graduate. Those schools abroad get huge fundings for education. If you perceive that there is a misappropriation in university system, why not wade in and be in charge of fixing the infrastructure and revitalization fee and leave the school administrators out of the process- come and build and innovative rickety libraries.

Remember that anything Government is continuous and not only must you fulfill the promises but build on it. Again, this struggle was before so many of us are born, why are we still in this state. Please kindly do your research on how much Graduate assistants and Assistant lecturers earn.

Recently, they retain best students to lecture but after seeing how decayed the system is coupled will a paltry salary of 105k for some school lecturers, they accept offers from universities abroad and the system weakens further. Government only focuses on the propaganda of 10,000 lecturers as Prof whereas the bulk are in the very lower cadre who will print, publish articles, fix their offices with their money especially for those who could never sell handouts as a university rule. They are left with only meager salaries. I will stop here.


However, the challenge with ASUU is their penchant for shouldering all the requests needed for school revitalization. If ASUU focuses on the welfare of the members alone (which in hard fact, not possible though since university structures and infrastructure isn’t alien to ASUU’ operations), the strike won’t be incessant. If the students and parents don’t ask for better education, leave them to it. You can’t be fighting for people who don’t understand you.

If any ASUU member is found erring for misappropriation , prosecute them instantly but we forget that ASUU is academic and not always at the helm of affairs of most administrative activities of some universities and how some of it sef is being used are not even known to them.

All we want is a balanced view. So pathetic that this struggle has been on for ages. If only, if only they fix it once, Government would be able to brag one day.

nice response

Sorry, but I don't agree with you.. ASUU is doing this for a selfish interest.. However if ASUU work for council and not government, are they paid by Council? What you said about tax is not true. National housing scheme is not fradulant and it also exists. All these na brain washing from your ASUU chairperson..

AniwetaluEmma:
This is what Federal Government sold to you which does reflect reality on ground.
1. There is an extant law that establishes the independence of the school adminstration. That is why the governing council was established. Every lecturer work for governing council not government.
By introduction of IPPIS power to employ and fund University goes to Abuja (Hands of politicians)
2. Sabbatical, Adjunct and part-time lecturing is a global practice. It is engaging experience hands in areas of neccesity by some universities. A student might like to major in a particular option that school may not have experienced hands in. That department can hire another experience lecturer from another school to handle that. IPPIS didn't capture this peculiarity.
3. IPPIS payment is on double taxation. Federal government tax You. State still tax you. 7% each.
4. Federal government through IPPIS migrated everyone to fraudulent and non existent National Housing Schemes where about 10% of salaries of every ASUU member is being deducted.
5. Earn Allowance which is a global practice in academic sector is not acknowledged by IPPIS. This is where lecturers take solace in.
Earn Allowance be is the money that arise from the excessive loads some lecturers carried. This motivate them to do more. Who will do that works without payments?
6. ASUU offered a transparent payment method that capture all these peculiarities. Why federal government doesn't want to address it?
7. Mind you that ASUU is purely academic union. They are not into management. ASUU don't employ or manage finances. They only teach.
8. Do you know that all the agreements Federal government went in with ASUU since 2009 nothing has been done on the part of government since today. How do you want ASUU to trust Federal Government.

Ikeja electric bill just landed. Sept 2020. 18k plus. Since the government is removing her hands from everything. I think they should just allow parents to start paying tution fees in universities. E.g the sum of 400k for a start will be good, such that even the professor's can't send their children to school. I think this is the way forward.
400k for social sciences and Art
500K for the sciences and Engineering and
600-800k for those intending to study Medical courses and Law.

This will be very good on the Nigerian worker on a minimum wage of 30k. ASUU should encourage government to do what they want but are hiding under disguise. Maybe that will make the system fuctional and they will have funds to fix the Universities.
The #Endtutionfees protest that will follow will make #endsarsachildsplay.

maryjames9:
A Professor and Geologist has this to say as a comment about FG-ASUU saga___

Even in ASUU, this is the worst leadership I have seen in 25years in the university. Both government and ASUU are not sincere on university education in Nigeria. I have not seen any intellectualism in the attitude of both government and ASUU. I will touch little things that doesn't make sense; why is ASUU on strike now? It is because of IPPIS and after losing out on that they shifted the goalpost to "revitalization of universities" which is very unrealistic. Why would a sensible person declare strike during coronavirus global confusion? Where is the much acclaimed knowledge? This strike was never voted for at individual branches as usual but truncated by the ASUU NEC. It never happened this way before. The IPPIS unveiled an unbelievable number of ghost workers in the university payroll whole the former gifmis payroll that ASUU preferred accommodated all those ghost workers. So the complain about IPPIS is baseless and unfounded. Why would a professor be allow to visit more than two universities in a month? How would he cover the contact hours and quality delivery to students if he has to visit three, four, five and etc universities? All for money. Who are then killing the university education from within? Why would this malpractice be allow simply because it is ASUU. Respect should be earn through honesty. What is revitalization? Who will source over N1 trillion naira and throw it to universities for unspecified projects and look the other way? This will never happen. How many universities judiciously utilized the money given by President Goodluck Jonathan for Needs Assessment Projects? Infact you will see better projects in State Universities than federal universities. Why is ASUU silent about this? Who actually benefits from major projects? University Management and Union officials as supervisors but not lecturers. TETFUND is doing good in their intervention projects in all universities, so why this revitalization again? Why is ASUU drifting away from sourcing welfare of its members and targeting revitalization? Are they fighting for its members of universities management? As it is now, majority of ASUU member have gone to Abuja and enrolled for the IPPIS because the deception is too much. No government in the history of Nigeria is interested in education, so only sincerity of purpose, honesty and transparency in side of ASUU would defeat them and not stupid pride and propaganda. If Nigerian Universities are winning research grants and do the research, they would have solve their problems and earn more respect. Does it take new laboratory or office to put up an application for a good research? If ASUU had being encouraging good research, things would not have being this bad. You cannot help a politicians to rig elections and expect them to respect you.

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This is an excellent analysis of this ASUU strike. Everyone knows that the COVID-19 pandemic has devastated economies of countries all over the world. Nigeria university lecturers should be thankful that they have jobs that pay every month. Many private university lecturers in Nigeria have not received any salary since March; some of the salaries are about half of what is paid in Federal universities. This is a wrong time to be doing strike.

Good move by the FG.. . I'm surprise this gullible Union are still under payroll... FG should take the November deadline very serious this time...

MT:
Quit this smoke screen. I'm an IT person.if a software doesn't capture certain requirement, the software can always be worked on to accommodate the new functionality. You cant throw away IPPIS because it doesn't fully capture your requirements, that's lame and uninformed.

As an IT person.. How many years does it take to tweak a software cos ASUU pointed out this issues since 2013..?

Enrollment of the Tertiary education sector started November last year.. Why hasn't this been done?

By your submission, you are simply implying the FG is on a deliberate course to sabotage the education sector, else they did take into cognisance the issues causing industrial crisis..

You better sit this one out and stop claiming what you are obviously not..

amerengues:
I am quoting you and replying you because you didn’t insult in responding as most Nairalander do thus, I hardly comment.

We argue to gain more enlightenment and if in the process, we encounter superior arguments, we should accept it.

You made a valid point by referring to the ghost workers issue- we don’t want ghost workers that sap our resources struggling to go round.

ASUU went on strike before pandemic thus it wasn’t in the midst of pandemic; It wasn’t because of IPPIS that they started the strike; This same government agreed at a time that they are willing to looking into the alternative ASUU will present which is UTAS since it accommodates most of the peculiarities IPPIS is devoid of

eg Adjunct lecturers (Hardly will you see any department/faculty with adjunct Lecturers from the industry). An engineering faculty with a course on Engineering law (just an illustration)may borrow lecturers. Also, those presently on IPPIS in other ministry have started complaining of the irregularities because I have a colleague who complained recently.

To rectify issues, you might need to travel to Abuja (Security, finance, stress, not meeting them on seat and telling you to come tomorrow), why hasn’t the Government decentralized this IPPIS. A friend has been advised to travel to Abuja recently.

We are quick to forget that this strike is premised on the follow up on previous agreement the government has successfully renegaded on without no commitment to do anything significant. IPPIS main issue came up when the stopped salary in which strike was on before the focus shifted to IPPIS.

Again, I ask, students have never supported revitalization and adequate funding and we are quick to condemn some persons who wants that. Government really fears the students’ protest but unfortunately they don’t protest for better education or support the struggle since we all want to quickly graduate. Those schools abroad get huge fundings for education. If you perceive that there is a misappropriation in university system, why not wade in and be in charge of fixing the infrastructure and revitalization fee and leave the school administrators out of the process- come and build and innovative rickety libraries.

Remember that anything Government is continuous and not only must you fulfill the promises but build on it. Again, this struggle was before so many of us are born, why are we still in this state. Please kindly do your research on how much Graduate assistants and Assistant lecturers earn.

Recently, they retain best students to lecture but after seeing how decayed the system is coupled will a paltry salary of 105k for some school lecturers, they accept offers from universities abroad and the system weakens further. Government only focuses on the propaganda of 10,000 lecturers as Prof whereas the bulk are in the very lower cadre who will print, publish articles, fix their offices with their money especially for those who could never sell handouts as a university rule. They are left with only meager salaries. I will stop here.


However, the challenge with ASUU is their penchant for shouldering all the requests needed for school revitalization. If ASUU focuses on the welfare of the members alone (which in hard fact, not possible though since university structures and infrastructure isn’t alien to ASUU’ operations), the strike won’t be incessant. If the students and parents don’t ask for better education, leave them to it. You can’t be fighting for people who don’t understand you.

If any ASUU member is found erring for misappropriation , prosecute them instantly but we forget that ASUU is academic and not always at the helm of affairs of most administrative activities of some universities and how some of it sef is being used are not even known to them.

All we want is a balanced view. So pathetic that this struggle has been on for ages. If only, if only they fix it once, Government would be able to brag one day.

You spoke very well bro.. However, I am of the opinion ASUU should jettison all pro students struggles like Increase in school fees and revitalization, and focus solely on welfare...

The culture of being insulted simply because the students are too myopic in their views of a better education system has to end..

Let the FG increase the school fees to a minimum of 350k as they plan.. We will teach them under trees if that is what it will take to mind our business squarely...

jmaine:
As an IT person.. How many years does it take to tweak a software cos ASUU pointed out this issues since 2013..?

Enrollment of the Tertiary education sector started November last year.. Why hasn't this been done?

By your submission, you are simply implying the FG is on a deliberate course to sabotage the education sector, else they did take into cognisance the issues causing industrial crisis..

You better sit this one out and stop claiming what you are obviously not..

All these are excuses. Get on board and they will work on the other uncaptured requirements(if any). Software evolves that's why we have different versions. We have seen through ASUU deceit. It's a corrupt union pretending to fight for the interest of the students. Now the hen has come home to roost. Most of the so- called professors and PhD holders are not sound and I wonder what they lecture the students. We need total overhaul. Fg should develop ball of steel, advertise their positions if they refuse to comply. I won't debate my professionalism with you, your choice mister.

trilacos:
tell us the real issue or keep shut!stop writing nonsense.

You're right!!!

femlad97:
zero point.... read what you post again..... what are you talking now.... rubbish

That's the level of your comprehensibility. Anyways, you're right!

symbianDON:
thank you so much for this piece

Welcome.

Oh

Temitopemo6e6:
What has Asup achieved? They are busy sleeping with students. The same machines oyinbo
installed in higher institutions in 19gbogbo is what
they are still using, no invention. Students who fail
under your watch are the best abroad. The same certificate they give us and they are so proud is
not employabl in any developed country (except individual outstandin skills). Evaluate your Almighty BSc in WES and see what they will give you. Those
of us who schooled here are proud of ourselves. ASUP extended retirement age to 65 years for non teaching staff and 70 years forteaching staff, they want to die there. They are fighting for us yet they can't leave the job. ASUP is using us to expand their CV, tthey collect PTFund to study abroad, if the school they so much work on is soo good, why go abroad for MSc and PhD, do it here.

God bless you for me(in Jesus' name), amen.

MT:
All these are excuses. Get on board and they will work on the other uncaptured requirements(if any). Software evolves that's why we have different versions. We have seen through ASUU deceit. It's a corrupt union pretending to fight for the interest of the students. Now the hen has come home to roost. Most of the so- called professors and PhD holders are not sound and I wonder what they lecture the students. We need total overhaul. Fg should develop ball of steel, advertise their positions if they refuse to comply. I won't debate my professionalism with you, your choice mister.

Nonsense.. Still parroting what has proven to be a baseless points. We have gone pass this infantile rant as yours...

When next the FG is advertising, apply for the post of a professor, and make sure you are harmed with the necessary publications in reputable international journals as expected.

Some of you simply use the anonymity of social media to chat bullshit.

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Bubu is not a lousy president. He rarely talks, rarely addresses issues, and rarely debates. However, when it is time to take decisions, he does so without flinching. And in many cases, the decisions are irreversible. One can compare him to Louis XIV who reigned in France from 14 May 1643 until his death in 1715.

When Bubu declared at the National Assembly during the 2021 budget presentation that no lecturer who hasn't registered under the IPPIS will be paid, I knew our lecturers are in for a long thing. I mean, he said it with his own mouth.

The situation at hand is quite dicey. Way back in 2012/2013, Jonathan sat for 13 hours with ASUU leadership and signed an agreement. That was the first time a President will sit with ASUU. However, I don't understand why that agreement wasn't implemented to the fullest.

ASUU has two options:

[b]1. They can put their back to the walls, and fight this fight to the end. This will put an end to the incessant strikes.[/bthe billions Jonathan gave them nkor...was it Kent to buy pepper soup?

[quote author=ezechi24 post=94842751][/quote]Lol. The thing was not fully implemented. I really don't understand what's the issue sha

Mehn you dey vex ooo

Shezkid01:
We don enter am, God almost 6months at home..
futa I miss you small
Make we resume nw.. my house don tire me, FG and ASUU e no go better for you..
Their children they uk and usa oo
Can we have uninterrupted education for 3 years in this country?
In everything I do make I sha no fail my unborn children.. non of them go know Nigeria

jmaine:
You are a LIAR and a govt. Propagandist but continue.. [s] I hope you are not one of those gearing to support PRO-SARS? [/s]

Face front.

jmaine:
Nonsense.. Still parroting what has proven to be a baseless points. We have gone pass this infantile rant as yours...

When next the FG is advertising, apply for the post of a professor, and make sure you are harmed with the necessary publications in reputable international journals as expected.

Some of you simply use the anonymity of social media to chat bullshit.

I knew your ilk. I knew you would crack and spew rubbish under intense searchlight. You couldn't make reasonable argument without being insulting. It shows the quality of education which you have been exposed to. I don't need to apply for the position of a Professor but I can tell you majority of you guys are paper tigers. Show me the impact you have made in your field and I will show you mind blowing projects I have used my skill set to lead. Universities should always be the bridge between the gown and the town, today, the town just sees your citadels as "mere institutions" where students go to after passing their JAMB. You should be bothered. You should be concerned and ashamed that you have failed to make a reasonable impact in the sector where you frustratingly find yourself. And let it be clear, I was properly educated and trained by the best hands in my industry in a saner clime. Let that sink in.

Ibegtodiffer:
Your write-up void and ladden with crass ignorance. You know near to nothing about what you're saying.

1. while you are here commending, all the children of these elites are studying abroad. They shut down your own "substandard" universities & send their own kids out of the country, and you're hailing.

2. Just so you know, ghost workers is near impossible in academia. There's the need for evidence of what course, who teaches & when, monitored periodically by NUC. If it's inconsistent, you risk partial or failed accreditation. Moreover, if there were ghost Lecturers, you won't be hearing about lecturing in 2 or more universities.

3. On what ASUU has achieved, a lot. More than half the students in public universities would have been dropouts by now, if ASUU hadn't rejected the FG earlier proposed 350k to 500k school fees.

4. Just so you know, significantly over 50% of ASUU members are MSc or PhD students in Nigeria. Less than 30% of ASUU members study abroad under TETFUND. A good number worked hard enough to obtain foreign scholarships abroad. Hence not all Lecturers abroad are funded by TETFUND.

5. The said TETFUND is actually the brainchild of ASUU! so is NEEDS. All Lecture halls, Hostels, Vehicles, Chairs, Lab equipment, Books etc that has TETFUND or NEEDS ASSESSMENT crested on them are products of ASUU struggles. They went through hunger, sickness and death in some cases for these to come into fruition. Something a lot of people are unaware of. A huge number of Nigerians do not even know that TETFUND is not funded by FG!!! Do your investigation on this, since na u sabi pass.

6. What have Lecturers invented? That's the problem with FG propaganda. You want inventions in a University that is grossly underfunded. Does that add up? Australia just released 1B dollars intervention fund to universities last week. Reason is, international students were slow in paying up their fees. That is how much they value education. That is not part of the annual education budget. But Nigerian politicians would rather shutdown Universities, strangulate her intellectuals, distabilize academic calendar and frustrate the students, instead of spending 350Million dollars for a period of six years. What a stench.
During this pandemic, without salaries and without FG funding, several Universities have developed Ventilators that are currently up for commercialization. Rapid diagnostic kits for COVID-19 have been developed and commercialized already. Drugs are at advanced levels in at least 2 public universities in Nigeria. ASUU does not have the financial muscle to match FG's propaganda or control the disappointing money controlled media. But it is definitely working. Unknown to Nigerians, the current ASUU strike permits members to go into research that can salvage the pandemic challenges. Who will report these developments?

7. What is Nigeria's University certificate worth abroad? This the more reason for massive funding of these institutions. Despite a limited premium on our certificates, significant number of Nigeria students perform excellently abroad. Our universities produce good students, that can compete globally, yet, their certificates are less regarded. Isn't that a significant signal, that our universities can do more with a little more funding?

8. Extended retirement of 70 age does not mean Lecturers want to die there. Recently, the Nobel price award in Chemistry was won by a 91 year old academic. It is scientifically proven that the brain cells are one of the most long lasting. Professionalism improves with years of work. Moreover, how come the retirement age of politicians doesn't worry you?

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