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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Depsui(m): 7:37am On Oct 16, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: This is wrong, read my comments on the previous page |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:44am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Depsui: The bolded is contradictory! You said "He resurrected with His crucified body" But again you said "He lives forever in this new body" So what is new in the crucified body? 3 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Depsui(m): 7:47am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Judybash93: From the Bible |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 7:48am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Depsui: I know two wrongs can't make a right, so it's either you are on the wrong or i. So is there any scripture that stated saying Jesus returned to heaven with physical body? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Depsui(m): 7:51am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: The reason why i said glorified body is that, He can live forever in His resurrected body which is not possible with the natural body. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Depsui(m): 7:52am On Oct 16, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: Don't be confused by "new". I just meant resurrected body. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Depsui(m): 7:58am On Oct 16, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: Jesus did not resurrect with a purely physical body. He resurrected with a glorified body. Please check my comments on the previous page. Also, you can read 1corithians 15 to understand what I mean by "glorified body( or spiritual body) 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Depsui: OK the NEW is a blunder! Next time try to be consistent with your point because i believe Jesus never resurrected with the same body which makes it a NEW body! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 8:09am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Depsui: According to 1Corinthians 15, Jesus was given a new body and the old bruised body was gone! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Depsui(m): 8:14am On Oct 16, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: You still don't get my point. Jesus Christ resurrected in the body He was crucified in. But there was a transformation of the body into a glorified body. I have a question for you. What happened to the body of Jesus Christ that was buried. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Depsui(m): 8:15am On Oct 16, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: No. The old body was transformed into a glorified body 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:28am On Oct 16, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:Did read what you wrote? So If somebody demands that you should do what is wrong you should do it? You are not obeying God but the governing body of Jehova witness |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:30am On Oct 16, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:so because I m exposing the fraud called Jehovah witness org means I am looking for I group? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:30am On Oct 16, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:where did the bible say Jesus is an angel? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:34am On Oct 16, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ:there is no scripture that says Jesus is an angel, humans are also called sons of God does that mean they are Angels too? Jesus is given same title as Jehovah, Jesus is Jehovah. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Psalms 132:5 Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob. Psalm 35 said Jehovah is the mighty God But Isaiah said Jesus is the mighty God. So how many mighty Gods do you now have? And also see, New world translation Isaiah 10v21 Only a remnant will return, The remnant of Jacob, to the Mighty God.+ If Jehovah is the Mighty God therefore does it not occur to you that there can be no other Mighty God? But Jesus Jesus is also called, Mighty God a title exclusively met for Jehovah. That only means one thing, Jesus is Jehovah of the old testament. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 8:53am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Please what's your understanding of Genesis 2:7? Was Adam a physical being or a spiritual being? What was put into the nostrils of Adam? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 8:54am On Oct 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: Go and argue with Jesus at Matthew 26:52. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 9:06am On Oct 16, 2020 |
So because the other angels in heaven are also Mighty gods—that make them equal to Jehovah too? (Psalm 103:20) The Hebrew word ‘El Gibbohr’(Mighty God) can apply to Jehovah, Jesus(Jehovah's firstborn Son) and other angels but when it comes to being God Almighty i.e. El Shaddai, that title is reserved for Jehovah God only.(Genesis 17:1, Revelation 15:3) Please what is your understanding of Psalm 110:1? Can you please identify the two characters portrayed there? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Judybash93(m): 9:26am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Depsui: This, sir, doesn't serve as evidence. I believe in the tales of the dwarfs because it's written in 'The Lord of the Rings" isn't good enough to point us to the truth and the Bible is just one of the many books that falls into that lane. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 9:31am On Oct 16, 2020 |
The bolded actually caught my attention. LOL. So I shouldn't be confused when the Bible says it's a “Spiritual Body” abi? Instead I should accept the one you're telling me and discard how the Bible puts it shey? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:31am On Oct 16, 2020 |
DappaD:Mathew 26:52 is saying that it is ok for a Christian to take part in the system of this world if it is right and lawful do you now see the folly in condemning people who join the military, police etc provided they do what is right no problem. I leave you with what John said to the soldiers Luke 3:14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:32am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Depsui: It was meant to serve as the Sacrifice for sin, according to God's arrangement the lamb used as a sacrifice is burnt completely because it bears the sin. So that body Jesus died with bears all the sin of Mankind therefore it's corruptible, for Jesus who was a mighty spirit being in heaven before to live again he doesn't need that corruptible body anymore now that he is clean. Where most readers get confused is because Jesus formed a materialised body to convince Thomas so most readers thought since the body Jesus showed Thomas still appeared with the bruises therefore it's still that sacrificed body. NO! It can't be because once a lamb is sacrificed, it is gone for good! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:35am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Depsui:The body Jesus lived with as a man has been sacrificed so he is now a spirit again as he was before being born as human! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:36am On Oct 16, 2020 |
DappaD:No, angels are never called mighty God, there is only one Mighty God and that is Jehovah. The Hebrew word ‘El Gibbohr’(Mighty God) can apply to Jehovah, Jesus(Jehovah's firstborn Son) and other angels but when it comes to being God Almighty i.e. El Shaddai, that title is reserved for Jehovah God only.(Genesis 17:1, Revelation 15:3)Jehovah alone is called the mighty God no other. Psalm 110:1 is a messianic verse, that speak of Christ position as a man. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:40am On Oct 16, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ:you are wrong! Jesus body was resurrected. John 2:19-22 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. From this verse, the body of Jesus rose exactly as he said. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 9:47am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Mr living If you like, join military and carry arms, if you like, don't join. What's my business? So far as all parties are concerned, Jehovah's Witnesses is the group on earth practicing true Christianity today. OTHERS are deceiving themselves. It is only those in my faith I recognize as my brothers and sisters in Christ. So don't mistake it to be as if I want you to change your thinking or anything. I was only stating the beliefs and practises of Jehovah's Witnesses according to the Bible. So you're free to do as you like, after all you've got your own freewill to express. Nawao. Find one place and perch biko. If it's John the Baptist you are following let us know. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:49am On Oct 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: Moses was a Mighty God Exod 7:1 There were many others who were also Mighty Gods Psal 82:1,6 So the term Mighty was used for many not only Jehovah, Jesus was likened to the Archangel Michael that's why i concluded that he is the archangel Michael! He himself said the dead will hear his voice and come out [John 5:28-29] Paul said it's the archangel's voice that will raise the dead! 1Thess 4:16 Jesus is the one leading the armies in heaven [Matt 25:32] and Michael also did the same [Dani 12:1; Reve 12:7] note that both Jesus and Michael was said to be coming with his angels! Both Michael and Jesus were referred to as Sons of God, but never has Jehovah been referred to as "Son" |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 9:54am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Go back and meditate on what I said. I'm not going to deliberate further on this. I said identify the two characters you're telling me story. Who is the LORD and who is the Lord? Was Jesus sitting at God's right hand as a man or as a spirit being in heaven? (Acts 2:34-35) THINK, PLEASE, THINK. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:58am On Oct 16, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: These people still need lessons on the basis They don't believe Jesus himself died. They believe he just shed his skin and his spirit/soul is chilling somewhere for three days ... Pathetic! So, where the Bible says Jesus was made alive in Spirit..it brings their reasoning to fault ahhhh....Satan nah bastard 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:59am On Oct 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: The Temple here is not Jesus' physical body but pure worship! The day Jesus died, until the third day there was no place where pure worship was practiced on earth again until his resurrection. The body means the Church not Jesus' physical body! 1Cor 12:17; Ephe 4:12, 5:23; Colo 3:15 The body there means pure worship which was established which the Temple arrangement, the day Jesus died that arrangement was cancelled and at his resurrection a new covenant was established so instead of worshipers to continue going to the Temple, true worshipers of God now associates with Jesus' followers (the body of Christ) Read John 15 |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 10:04am On Oct 16, 2020 |
DappaD: Perhaps he thought Jesus became two persons and one Jesus (LORD) is now telling the other Jesus (Lord) "sit at my right hand". These people don't understand a single thing! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 10:05am On Oct 16, 2020 |
haddeylium: That's why the first step they have to take is to grasp the real meaning of Genesis 2:7 |
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