SilverNorGold:


My brother, we all know the HEALTH of the ECONOMY IS ESSENTIAL for diversification and creation of jobs. When there's little money, how do you expert government to even cater for basic wants like payment of salaries? Not to talk of investing into other areas.

Also, failing to keep a promise doesn't necessarily mean you intentionally jettisoned it. It could mean circumstances, beyond your control, are responsible.

But despite that, the Buhari administration has done a lot to provide jobs in the area of agriculture, infrastructure, and other programs. He has also approved the commencement for Special Public Works Programme which will engage 1000 persons from each of the 774 Local Government Areas in the country..

Other programmes are being deliberated on and will be unveiled soon.

The government is also working on power, which previous administrations wrecked, by looting huge amounts of money, meant for its improvement, and later abandoned. Once there's stable electricity, it'll boost entrepreneurship and businesses will grow. This in turn will create jobs..

All these require enormous funds. But President Buhari has managed to sail through..

So, please, my good brother, let us be patient. President Mohammadu Buhari means well for Nigeria.

God bless us all.

You a devils incarnate and a sycophant ,to you Buhari is perfect and has no flaws because you work for him, but to. Majority of Nigerians Buhari is a failure and disaster. He's the worst thing to ever happen to this country.. May your life and that of your entire generation be ruled the same way buhari your god has destroyed this great nation. God bless Nigeria.

SilverNorGold:


My beloved brother, again, quoting a part to cement your allegation isn't do any of us good. It's like you're taking this as a war.. Good, you read that part.. Did you read to the end to grasp my point?

What about this part



If you read with a non biased mind, you'll see where I separated the genuine protesters from the opportunists. This is also echoed in my other posts.

Please let's avoid jumping into unnecessary conclusions. It's not good.

God bless you.

A part or the whole. It's there. You can't help the reader decide which part of your statement should be given more importance than the other. I don't need to read whatever else you have to write. I've shown you proof again from your own post!!
Live with it.

Agbegbaorogboye:


A part or the whole. It's there. You can't help the reader decide which part of your statement should be given more importance than the other. I don't need to read whatever else you have to write. I've shown you proof again from your own post!!
Live with it.

My beloved brother, this is wrong. You can't use a part to judge the whole. It's not done that way. But if you want me to "live with it", my brother, it's well.

God bless you.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, we all know the HEALTH of the ECONOMY IS ESSENTIAL for diversification and creation of jobs. When there's little money, how do you expert government to even cater for basic wants like payment of salaries? Not to talk of investing into other areas.

Also, failing to keep a promise doesn't necessarily mean you intentionally jettisoned it. It could mean circumstances, beyond your control, are responsible.

But despite that, the Buhari administration has done a lot to provide jobs in the area of agriculture, infrastructure, and other programs. He has also approved the commencement for Special Public Works Programme which will engage 1000 persons from each of the 774 Local Government Areas in the country..

Other programmes are being deliberated on and will be unveiled soon.

The government is also working on power, which previous administrations wrecked, by looting huge amounts of money, meant for its improvement, and later abandoned. Once there's stable electricity, it'll boost entrepreneurship and businesses will grow. This in turn will create jobs..

All these require enormous funds. But President Buhari has managed to sail through..

So, please, my good brother, let us be patient. President Mohammadu Buhari means well for Nigeria.

God bless us all.

I didn't ask you why he failed to fulfill his promises. All the other former leaders you say he's different from will also give you a million reasons why they couldn't keep to their promises.
The fact is that, he's not different from the rest. Live with it.

Jack005:
You a devils incarnate and a sycophant ,to you Buhari is perfect and has no flaws because you work for him, but to. Majority of Nigerians Buhari is a failure and disaster. He's the worst thing to ever happen to this country.. May your life and that of your entire generation be ruled the same way buhari your god has destroyed this great nation. God bless Nigeria.

Okay, my beloved brother, it's okay. This is becoming violent, and I don't want it.

I accept all your attacks.

God bless you.

Agbegbaorogboye:

I didn't ask you why he failed to fulfill his promises. All the other former leaders you say he's different from will also give you a million reasons why they couldn't keep to their promises.
The fact is that, he's not different from the rest. Live with it.

My beloved brother, if their reasons are justified, fine..

As long as Buhari is STILL WORKING ON THE PROMISES, I SEE NO ISSUE.. He hasn't abandoned it.. Got them?

God bless you.

SilverNorGold:


My beloved brother, you're beginning to turn this peaceful discussion into personal attack.. Please calm down.

Mild poverty, extreme poverty, are very important, my brother. Read your post, you completely missed it. Show humility for once. Lol..

I hope you got my previous post? That should help..

Regarding food, proof of hunger, etc.. I am 100% certain you are intentionally avoiding to read those points I noted earlier. I, however, urge you to go back and reread them.. I have proven, satisfactorily, using data collected from various protesters, some of which can be seen on the Front Page of this glorious forum..

My brother, please, be calming down, no be war...

Protesting my patriotic tag is none of my business as it's clearly your own opinion. And I respect it.. If you don't see me as a patriot, there are others who do, and all of you are entitled to your opinions.

God bless us all.

Which is your favourite: mild or extreme poverty?
Choose one so we can help you pray for it.

SilverNorGold:


My beloved brother, if their reasons are justified, fine..

As long as Buhari is STILL WORKING ON THE PROMISES, I SEE NO ISSUE.. He hasn't abandoned it.. Got it?

God bless you.

You have comprehension issues obviously.
Let me remind you again. 10m jobs every year starting from 2019.
So, the first set of 10m jobs should have been created by now. Failure of which he has failed already.
He set the bar himself. I hope you can understand now.

And talking of justified reasons. IBB said he annulled June 12 elections to save Nigeria. That's a justifiable reason no?

#EndSARS, RESTRUCTURE NIGERIA NOW
OR expect Something ####

SilverNorGold:


My beloved brother, this is wrong. You can't use a part to judge the whole. It's not done that way. But if you want me to "live with it", my brother, it's well.

God bless you.

Good. Live with it.
You're a slanderer and evil

Agbegbaorogboye:

Good. Live with it.
You're a slanderer and evil

God bless you.

Agbegbaorogboye:

You have comprehension issues obviously.
Let me remind you again. 10m jobs every year starting from 2019.
So, the first set of 10m jobs should have been created by now. Failure of which he has failed already.
He set the bar himself. I hope you can understand now.

And talking of justified reasons. IBB said he annulled June 12 elections to save Nigeria. That's a justifiable reason no?

My brother, I have replied to your million job claim, stop overheating it.. Buhari is still working hard, doesn't mean he met the goal.. I already told you, which is obvious, that circumstances disrupted it.. But that doesn't mean he abandoned it.. It was beyond his control. If he had intentionally ignored it, that's a different story.

My brother, IBB, can you mention his justification? Let's compare it with Buhari's promise.

God bless you

Agbegbaorogboye:

Which is your favourite: mild or extreme poverty?
Choose one so we can help you pray for it.

Lol, my beloved brother, missing the point?

Go through my post again and read slowly.

God bless you.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, I said CRIMINAL ELEMENTS have hijacked the protest.. Check my post history. Clearly stated. Even the convener of #EndSars has corroborated my claim, that the protests have been hijacked.

God bless Nigeria.

That is because it not a stage protest hosted by politician and can never be hijacked as you proclaim, what is the crime to be feed in fight for a common causes?
Definitely expenses are not made form the goverment pause?
Why are they bother, are they not the lazy youth?
there is an Ibo adage that said "an individual who cooks for a community in a feast will have no leftover but when a community cooks for an individuial, he or she will not be able to finish it"

SilverNorGold:


Lol, my beloved brother, missing the point?

Go through my post again and read slowly.

God bless you.

There's nothing to read in your post.
You've made a distinction between "poverties"
Kindly choose the one you prefer. We'll join you in prayers.

SilverNorGold:


Lol, my beloved brother, that's no longer an opinion, but a fact.

1. It's a FACT protesters are given free food.
2. It's a fact that most protesters are now using the protest to mingle..
3. It's a fact that the protest has now become an arena for socializing in a manner akin to partying and feasting, this has been corroborated by thousands of protesters, including celebrities. They have even tagged it "partying and feasting".. I am not a protester. So my points are ones made by thousands of protesters, including notable "leaders" like Falz and Segalink(who alleged the protest has been hijacked)
4. It's a fact that pictures of hørny males and females "exchanging currents" have resurfaced online..

All these point to one thing - THE PROTEST has been DEFEATED.. And they are PROOF I DIDN'T MAKE ANYTHING UP. My points were collected from various sources, which can be verified even on this forum.

God bless you.

writing from arrewa republic of Nigeria. Try harder next time.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, I have replied to your million job claim, stop overheating it.. Buhari is still working hard, doesn't mean he met the goal.. I already told you, which is obvious, that circumstances disrupted it.. But that doesn't mean he abandoned it.. It was beyond his control. If he had intentionally ignored it, that's a different story.

My brother, IBB, can you mention his justification? Let's compare it with Buhari's promise.

God bless you

You really need to pay attention. Reduce your hypocritical sanctimonious approach and you might start getting things straight.
Buhari has already failed in achieving 10m jobs in the first year. You gave reasons.
IBB failed in handing over power to a democratically elected government. He gave reasons.

Can you tell us the difference between both of them?

Agbegbaorogboye:

You really need to pay attention. Reduce your hypocritical sanctimonious approach and you might start getting things straight.
Buhari has already failed in achieving 10m jobs in the first year. You gave reasons.
IBB failed in handing over power to a democratically elected government. He gave reasons.

Can you tell us the difference between both of them?

My brother, you are going round in circles, lol.. Hypocritical? Anyway, your opinion. Your million job creation claim has been replied to, but you prefer to go round in circles, I am not cut out for such.

I asked a question regarding IBB, you ignored only to tag me a hypocrite.

I wonder which difference you are asking for, despite proof of our "bastardized" revenue littered everywhere.

You are comparing PROMISES with GROSS VIOLATION OF THE PEOPLE'S MANDATE, my brother, are you for real? How are both related? You're beginning to sound like you have nothing else to say. You CANNOT COMPARE BOTH, PLEASE.

PLEASE, my brother, get your questions right. Learn to compare things the proper way.

A dictator nullified a free and fair election, and you compare it with a political promise? Interesting!

Anyway, God go help us

Tumbulum:
writing from arrewa republic of Nigeria. Try harder next time.

Be blessed, my beloved brother.

PHOTSEE:

That is because it not a stage protest hosted by politician and can never be hijacked as you proclaim, what is the crime to be feed in fight for a common causes?
Definitely expenses are not made form the goverment pause?
Why are they bother, are they not the lazy youth?
there is an Ibo adage that said "an individual who cooks for a community in a feast will have no leftover but when a community cooks for an individuial, he or she will not be able to finish it"

My brother, even the convener of the movement, Segalink, and other notable celebrities share the same opinion with me, and I will trust theirs rather than one from a random user online.

As for your "why bother" claim, na una sabi. I dun sha talk my mind.

God bless you.

Agbegbaorogboye:

There's nothing to read in your post.
You've made a distinction between "poverties"
Kindly choose the one you prefer. We'll join you in prayers.

My brother, the point is, MORE PEOPLE LIVE IN POVERTY THAN THE 86 MILLION.. THE POVERTY OF THE 86 MILLION IS DESCRIBED AS EXTREME.. Contrary to your claim that it's just 90 million, please reread your post.

Pardon, I had to use all caps so you get it this time.

God bless you.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, even the convener of the movement, Segalink, and other notable celebrities share the same opinion with me, and I will trust theirs rather than one from a random user online.

As for your "why bother" claim, na una sabi. I dun sha talk my mind.

God bless you.

It is a movement , you have to sit and wait it out to fad, ok? grap your popcorn and enjoy the ride.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, the point is, MORE PEOPLE LIVE IN POVERTY THAN THE 86 MILLION.. THE POVERTY OF THE 86 MILLION IS DESCRIBED AS EXTREME.. Contrary to your claim that it's just 90 million, please reread your post.

Pardon, I had to use all caps so you get it this time.

God bless you.

I had to screenshot so you can stop your fallacious statement.
I hope you can rest now.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, you are going round in circles, lol.. Hypocritical? Anyway, your opinion. Your million job creation claim has been replied to, but you prefer to go round in circles, I am not cut out for such.

I asked a question regarding IBB, you ignored only to tag me a hypocrite.

I wonder which difference you are asking for, despite proof of our "bastardized" revenue littered everywhere.

You are comparing PROMISES with GROSS VIOLATION OF THE PEOPLE'S MANDATE, my brother, are you for real? How are both related? You're beginning to sound like you have nothing else to say. You CANNOT COMPARE BOTH, PLEASE.

PLEASE, my brother, get your questions right. Learn to compare things the proper way.

A dictator nullified a free and fair election, and you compare it with a political promise? Interesting!

Anyway, God go help us

A disastrous dictator nullified a free and fair election. I agree.
What do you call one who toppled a democratically elected government?
Again, where's the difference?

You guys act as if Buhari just appeared in Nigeria in 2015 or Nigeria started to exist in 1999?
I'm sure if I ask you who has had more to do with Nigeria as it is today esp government between IBB and Buhari your reply will be... Tell me who you think it is between both?

Agbegbaorogboye:

A disastrous dictator nullified a free and fair election. I agree.
What do you call one who toppled a democratically elected government?
Again, where's the difference?

You guys act as if Buhari just appeared in Nigeria in 2015 or Nigeria started to exist in 1999?
I'm sure if I ask you who has had more to do with Nigeria as it is today esp government between IBB and Buhari your reply will be... Tell me who you think it is between both?

My brother, still going round in circles. All my questions are still pending.. lol

Nigeria go better.

Agbegbaorogboye:

I had to screenshot so you can stop your fallacious statement.
I hope you can rest now.

My brother, the issue here is comprehension, it's not my fault. Even your screenshot contradicts your 90 million claims. Let's analyze..

First Google result says that MORE THAN 112 million people.. NOTE THE MORE.
It supports my claim that it's NOT only the 90 million you mentioned that are poor.

The second result contradicts the first, but I won't take it seriously because of the source.. See screenshot below..

Lastly, attached is another source, from a reputable source, which emphasises on EXTREME.. NOTE the correlation between it and your first result which says MORE THAN 112 MILLION?

I hope this helps.. NOTE HOW ALL THE SCREENSHOTS USED EXTREME except the Nairametrics? Even your own screenshot, first result says MORE THAN 112 MILLION...

LOL

Uploading images here no easy o..

God bless us...

PHOTSEE:


It is a movement , you have to sit and wait it out to fad, ok? grap your popcorn and enjoy the ride.

Hahaha, my lovely brother.. It's well.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, the issue here is comprehension, it's not my fault. Even your screenshot contradicts your 90 million claims. Let's analyze..

First Google result says that MORE THAN 112 million people.. NOTE THE MORE.
It supports my claim that it's NOT only the 90 million you mentioned that are poor.

The second result contradicts the first, but I won't take it seriously because of the source.. See screenshot below..

Lastly, attached is another source, from a reputable source, which emphasises on EXTREME.. NOTE the correlation between it and your first result which says MORE THAN 112 MILLION?

I hope this helps.. NOTE HOW ALL THE SCREENSHOTS USED EXTREME except the Nairametrics? Even your own screenshot, first result says MORE THAN 112 MILLION...

LOL

Uploading images here no easy o..

God bless us...

Lol.
Stop clowning around dude.
The 112m statistics is from Oxfam an NGO. It's neither an official statistics or from the UN or other international organisations.
The 82.9m or 40% if you're using 200m population and you're conversant with basic arithmetic is from the NBS.
I purposely left it like dat cause I know you'll take the bait. This just shows you're clutching at straws.
Lol.
Oh and when you open the Oxfam page, this is what you see there. So much for your reputable organisation.
Lol

SilverNorGold:


My brother, still going round in circles. All my questions are still pending.. lol

Nigeria go better.

What are your questions?
You're doing a very poor and shoddy job so far buddy. Imagine calling your own government's statistician unreliable and sucking up to an international NGO. Lol. This is real comedy.
You still haven't shown me the difference between Buhari and IBB.
I dey wait o.

Agbegbaorogboye:

What are your questions?
You're doing a very poor and shoddy job so far buddy. Imagine calling your own government's statistician unreliable and sucking up to an international NGO. Lol. This is real comedy.
You still haven't shown me the difference between Buhari and IBB.
I dey wait o.

My brother, I think you have nothing else to say.. No be BY FORCE to OPPOSE person.. lmao

Government statistician? Nawa o.. Do you read my post at all? Did you see the screenshots? I encircled the KEYWORD "EXTREME" .. It was present in ALL, but absent in the "body" of the Nairametrics article, written by Samuel Adesoji, which is understandable as English is not his mother's tongue. So, I don't know what you are talking about. You should accept the fact that you were WRONG and move on.

Your attempt to engage in ad hominem, especially your first sentence(not the question), is clear you are grasping at straws, hence, resorting to unnecessary attack as a last resort.

But bear in mind that I am bigger than that. I am not going to go down that lane with you, note..

Finally, your IBB analogy is stale already, and unnecessary, as there's no correlation, this I have explained extensively already in my previous post. If comparing the illegal nullification of a free and fair election, by a dictator to a political promise, made by Buhari when the economy was buoyant isn't enough difference, then it's your issue.

Again, it's NOT COMPULSORY you oppose someone. So far, so good. All your allegations have been replied to, plus sources cited. You even asked me to "deal with" one of my irrefutable replies, which I accepted for peace sake.. Nobody dey drag anything with you, my brother.

So if you are going to turn this into an unnecessary battle, na you sabi. I am interested in facts and reasoning, not petty emotions.

Anyway, make God help us.

Agbegbaorogboye:

Lol.
Stop clowning around dude.
The 112m statistics is from Oxfam an NGO. It's neither an official statistics or from the UN or other international organisations.
The 82.9m or 40% if you're using 200m population and you're conversant with basic arithmetic is from the NBS.
I purposely left it like dat cause I know you'll take the bait. This just shows you're clutching at straws.
Lol.
Oh and when you open the Oxfam page, this is what you see there. So much for your reputable organisation.
Lol

My brother, like I said, you are GRASPING AT STRAWS, reason for the ad hominemic attempt, at your first sentence again. Like I said, nobody is DRAGGING anything with you, so attacks are UNNECESSARY.

That said, whichever angle you look at it, you are still wrong, sorry. All screenshots, including yours, use the adjective "extreme" or "severe", it's clearly stated there. Something EVERYONE CAN SEE..


WHICHEVER SOURCE YOU USE, IT'S STILL THE SAME... "EXTREME" poverty is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from "POVERTY".. Some can be poor.. Some can be EXTREMELY poor.. All are still poor..

If I say there are 5 EXTREMELY poor people here, it means 5 people are TOO POOR.. However, more than 5 people are POOR.. How many are poor? That cannot be ascertained from this statement, but it's 100% certain more than 5 are poor, since there are 5 extremely poor people already. My brother, it's simple logic...

I think this is getting stale already.

May God help us.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, like I said, you are GRASPING AT STRAWS, reason for the ad hominemic attempt, at your first sentence again. Like I said, nobody is DRAGGING anything with you, so attacks are UNNECESSARY.

That said, whichever angle you look at it, you are still wrong, sorry. All screenshots, including yours, use the adjective "extreme" or "severe", it's clearly stated there. Something EVERYONE CAN SEE..


WHICHEVER SOURCE YOU USE, IT'S STILL THE SAME... "EXTREME" poverty is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from "POVERTY".. Some can be poor.. Some can be EXTREMELY poor.. All are still poor..

If I say there are 5 EXTREMELY poor people here, it means 5 people are TOO POOR.. However, more than 5 people are POOR.. How many are poor? That cannot be ascertained from this statement, but it's 100% certain more than 5 are poor, since there are 5 extremely poor people already. My brother, it's simple logic...

I think this is getting stale already.

May God help us.

Still gnawing at that bone are we?
NBS means Nigerian bureau of statistics.
They put Nigeria's poor people at 82m. This is an institution being run by the govt you support. But you choose to believe an international NGO.
Dats why I said you're doing a poor job.
If the poor are 112m according to you, the failure is at the doorstep of your Buhari. But I understand you need the figure for the purpose of your arguement. See how conflicted you are?