IamDavid:

This can happen any day. There are touts and extremely poor people all around Nigeria, who would do anything to "eat". The hoodlums are not part of the protesters seeking a reform of the police and a better Nigeria overall. Personally, I know so many people who aren't poor, I mean having from hundreds of thousands to several millions in their bank account who are actively involved in these protests. I'm involved in the protests too. Are you telling me such people will go ahead and loot a Coca Cola truck?? Come on na...

am also involed but how do we ensure hoodlums like this dont hijack the prostest?cos it seems we dont have any strategist to do that...the genuine protester dont have control over the hoodlums and notting concern police https://www.nairaland.com/6192854/endsars-protesters-attacked-rrs-truck

ahiboilandgas:
am also involed but how do we ensure hoodlums like this dont hijack the prostest?cos it seems we dont have any strategist to do that...the genuine protester dont have control over the hoodlums and notting concern police

Now that's hard, and it has been my headache too. Meeting at few locations in good numbers can help, instead of scattering all over.

The government sends people to disrupt and discredit the protests, some poverty stricken people also use this opportunity to steal, erect road blocks and collect money from people to allow them pass, some engage policemen with whom they've had issues before, all to the peril of the aim of the protest. The problems we have in this country ehn... they're just too much.

ahiboilandgas:
i don't think so am talking of very wealthy ibo people not poor that have transformed Ago place Ajah ,kubwa and Sabon gari ....my close friend emeka just completed his hotel in kano is called mozida another one built the kano europeans centre all this guys can afford houses in America or put down 200k dollars to migrate by investments.if it general ibo consensus then they should not be buidling those properties ?They should be selling down and moving asset to biafra land .again Nodowka a ibo man from imo has over 7 new 50 bedroom hotel within Apapa all brand new built from 2015 he probably the largest hotelier in Nigeria and must are Located in Lagos so if it a consensus by the ibo why is he still buiding since Nigeria has notting to offer .....

Hmmm you think so? Ask for a man called Ndokwa from kwale.

lastclaire4:


Hmmm you think so? Ask for a man called Ndokwa from kwale.

..why would do that ?

IamDavid:

This can happen any day. There are touts and extremely poor people all around Nigeria, who would do anything to "eat". The hoodlums are not part of the protesters seeking a reform of the police and a better Nigeria overall. Personally, I know so many people who aren't poor, I mean having from hundreds of thousands to several millions in their bank account who are actively involved in these protests. I'm involved in the protests too. Are you telling me such people will go ahead and loot a Coca Cola truck?? Come on na...

Since we can't differentiate between hoodlums and genuine protesters,why don't we kuku end the whole crap?
Or should people's properties continue to be looted and destroyed because we can't separate hoodlums from genuine protesters?
We will protect our properties,livelihoods,interests and loved ones at all cost,even if it means using deadly force.
We dey wait sha!

ahiboilandgas:
i don't lie Nigeria is not a United country and was never United since 1960 but citizens tolerate each other ....may it might be united in future but right now is not ....Nigerians are more attached to their ethnic groupings

Sir, u have fallen for the shaningans of Nigerian Leaders.........
I was once @ a village development meeting on how to kick start a market and the talk was especially to attract traders from different ethnic groups....
That dirty useless Aboki is useful in ur daily consumption of tomato and onion,the cunning Igbo flat headed man is useful in supplying cheap gbanjo articles that u use daily, d fhucked up omoonile is resourceful in negotiating out rental spaces out of nowhere........,,

I can keep going head on with other tribes and their importance........... Major developers have perfected the art of attracting major tribes into their abode and develop their markets........


All this talk of Divided Nigeria most times are started by leaders for mostly selfish personal interest and are peddled by people who have no economic interest in the place.........

If u tell an Aboki to stop exchanging dollar at major markets which other tribe can provide this service cheaply and conviniently like this Aboki, is it the Yoruba man that would do it

..................me sef tire to write long epistle

IamDavid:

Now that's hard, and it has been my headache too. Meeting at few locations in good numbers can help, instead of scattering all over.

The government sends people to disrupt and discredit the protests, some poverty stricken people also use this opportunity to steal, erect road blocks and collect money from people to allow them pass, some engage policemen with whom they've had issues before, all to the peril of the aim of the protest. The problems we have in this country ehn... they're just too much.

all the strategies i suggested have failed including the use of hire body Guards.,I don't a situation when we are trying to solve a problem then create another problem ...

maishai:


Sir, u have fallen for the shaningans of Nigerian Leaders.........
I was once @ a village development meeting on how to kick start a market and the talk was especially to attract traders from different ethnic groups....
That dirty useless Aboki is useful in ur daily consumption of tomato and onion,the cunning Igbo flat headed man is useful in supplying cheap gbanjo articles that u use daily, d fhucked up omoonile is resourceful in negotiating out rental spaces out of nowhere........,,

I can keep going head on with other tribes and their importance........... Major developers have perfected the art of attracting major tribes into their abode and develop their markets........


All this talk of Divided Nigeria most times are started by leaders for mostly selfish personal interest and are peddled by people who have no economic interest in the place.........

If u tell an Aboki to stop exchanging dollar at major markets which other tribe can provide this service cheaply and conviniently like this Aboki, is it the Yoruba man that would do it

..................me sef tire to write long epistle

..i was never a leader and dont aspire to be one ..i personally dont interact with people base on tribes or race but personality .....it left to Nigerians to decide if they want a United diverse country or a balakanised monoethnic Nation....non is a totally bad idea......the most imported thing to me is good governance and progress of Nigeria or balakanised Nation...

In all this happenings that is playing out regarding #ENDSARS, the rioting youths are yet to ask the right questions, well, based on my observations.

The questions should be more like;
What are the measures put in place to checkmate or control police excesses?
Are this measures readily available to all?

ositadima1:
In all this happenings that is playing out regarding #ENDSARS, the rioting youths are yet to ask the right questions, well, based on my observations.

The question should be;
What are the measures put in place to checkmate or control police excesses?
Are this measure readily available to all?

am particularly happy the protest is coming to Apapa port ...the biggest extortion snydicates in Nigeria are Located from stadium to warf ....this more than SARS and arm robbers coming .....they collect over 120k to 200k to allow a single truck load from stadium to warf at different bribe paying points this has been responsible for high cost of Good cos importers transfer cost to consumer....warf/ikejia was 80k now 450k ....

Grupo:
So some people actually believe that protesters broke prison. Smh!

How? From the videos, the prisoners were released from inside and they scaled the fence to escape. Who provided them with the leverage they needed to escape from inside?

Someone inside the prisons took advantage of the protests to perfect a job they had been hatching for long.

Go and find out from people that were in Uniben in 1989 how it was done. That was during the time of IBB, a mean dictator. This generation dey think say na dem start protest because there are now mobile phones to post it on social media and take selfies.

Sir confirm again if you mean Apapa to Ikeja being this amount?

ahiboilandgas:
am particularly happy the protest is coming to Apapa port ...the biggest extortion snydicates in Nigeria are Located from stadium to warf ....this more than SARS and arm robbers coming .....they collect over 120k to 200k to allow a single truck load from stadium to warf at different bribe paying points this has been responsible for high cost of Good cos importers transfer cost to consumer....warf/ikejia was 80k now 450k ....

deepwater:

I.love the way u sound so confident from behind your screen

You are very funny. You think say na una generation start protests for Nigeria?. Go and find out about protests during the brutal regime of IBB and Abacha. Una never even start. Una dey learn. Your generation is lucky that we are in civilian regime.

ojesymsym:
Sir confirm again if you mean Apapa to Ikeja being this amount?

I dont do flatbeds

DexterousOne:
That said

I think many of us are just being hysterical sha
Nigeria is NOT going to cave in or disintegrate

If the fallout of June 12 or the civil war did not cave the country
Nothing can

But what we are really at risk of, is unrest from the masses due to the increased suffering due to bad leadership
But this unrest does not have the wherewithal to snowball into what will scatter the country totally to the point of disintegration

That's why the Buhari govt should surprise us and change course
For the betterment of the country

They are being hysterical because dem never really see protests before. The only protests they have seen is NLC price hike protests. Dem no see protests for June 12 or protest under IBB and Abacha.

TransAtlanticEx:
Since we can't differentiate between hoodlums and genuine protesters,why don't we kuku end the whole crap?
Or should people's properties continue to be looted and destroyed because we can't separate hoodlums from genuine protesters?
We will protect our properties,livelihoods,interests and loved ones at all cost,even if it means using deadly force.
We dey wait sha!

Lol... end the whole crap? You're talking as if the county was in a good condition before. I pray you never experience SARS brutality. it's terrible bro, and it has to end. Do you know how well Nigeria would have grown if not for bad governance? There has to be a change.
If stuffs like this (unending protests) don't happen, things would get much worse.

I'm fortunate to witness the beginning of democracy in Nigeria, and I've watched things deteriorate as the years pass by. It's far from normal. Some countries are getting better. Look at Rwanda, right here in Africa. Leadership has a big role to play in the change we seek. An annoying attitude I'm seeing recently in many people is selfishness. Once they have one Camry, a wife and two kids, they don't care about anything again. It's wrong, let's fix this country before it gets worse. My 2 cents. The protests continue till we see "visible changes"

Each time I hear youth saying they are doing what their parents couldn't do because of this one protest, I laugh. Almost 6 days of protest still no military, that would not have happened under IBB and definitely under Abacha and yet during that time was even the height of protest even at the risk of their lives.

NL1960:


You are very funny. You think say na una generation start protests for Nigeria?. Go and find out about protests during the brutal regime of IBB and Abacha. Una never even start. Una dey learn. Your generation is lucky that we are in civilian regime.

ahiboilandgas:
am also involed but how do we ensure hoodlums like this dont hijack the prostest?cos it seems we dont have any strategist to do that...the genuine protester dont have control over the hoodlums and notting concern police https://www.nairaland.com/6192854/endsars-protesters-attacked-rrs-truck

Gbam. That is where the youths missed it. They think protests for change is just to gather in one place, play music, dance, eat, sleep, wake up and continue. What were the strategies to counter the hoodlums if the protests get into the inner streets where hoodlums reign supreme?.

NL1960:


Gbam. That is where the youths missed it. They think protests for change is just to gather in one place, play music, dance, eat, sleep, wake up and continue. What were the strategies to counter the hoodlums if the protests get into the inner streets where hoodlums reign supreme?.

....that the main issue now .....

NL1960:


You are very funny. You think say na una generation start protests for Nigeria?. Go and find out about protests during the brutal regime of IBB and Abacha. Una never even start. Una dey learn. Your generation is lucky that we are in civilian regime.

How did u know about my generation
Like I said, I like your confidence.....
You speak so sure about things irrespective of its correctness

IamDavid:

Lol... end the whole crap? You're talking as if the county was in a good condition before. I pray you never experience SARS brutality. it's terrible bro, and it has to end. Do you know how well Nigeria would have grown if not for bad governance? There has to be a change.
If stuffs like this (unending protests) don't happen, things would get much worse.

I'm fortunate to witness the beginning of democracy in Nigeria, and I've watched things deteriorate as the years pass by. It's far from normal. Some countries are getting better. Look at Rwanda, right here in Africa. Leadership has a big role to play in the change we seek. An annoying attitude I'm seeing recently in many people is selfishness. Once they have one Camry, a wife and two kids, they don't care about anything again. It's wrong, let's fix this country before it gets worse. My 2 cents. The protests continue till we see "visible changes"

You have said it all

That delusional state of "comfort" some ot our people find themselves in is what is still deceiving them

9jatriot:
Each time I hear youth saying they are doing what their parents couldn't do because of this one protest, I laugh. Almost 6 days of protest still no military, that would not have happened under IBB and definitely under Abacha and yet during that time was even the height of protest even at the risk of their lives.

What this generation did is very commendable and brave

No matter what some want to say
That is aimed at belittling or discrediting their efforts is being ignored, because like we say in igbo, be your own cheer leader

That said
June 12 revolt was commendable
It culminated in the end of IBB
No one should belittle that feat as well....

NL1960:


They are being hysterical because dem never really see protests before. The only protests they have seen is NLC price hike protests. Dem no see protests for June 12 or protest under IBB and Abacha.

I remember the '88 SAP riots very well, I was in Form 3 at the time.

DexterousOne:


What this generation did is very commendable and brave

No matter what some want to say
That is aimed at belittling or discrediting their efforts is being ignored, because like we say in igbo, be your own cheer leader

That said
June 12 revolt was commendable
It culminated in the end of IBB
No one should belittle that feat as well....

very commendable...it has alway been my dream ....(youth awaken ) since we dont have opposition or never had one but politicians swapping parties any how to their personal gains......now all leader will think twice....u can just increase fuel,Vat , tax electricty on people coming out of knockdown

Yes, commendable, but making it look like those before them folded their hands and watched the country derail is not true. Also please note, June 12 protest was not the only protest that period. Sowore is popular now before he was at the forefront of a lot of protest then.

Anyway, this na TB thread.

DexterousOne:


What this generation did is very commendable and brave

No matter what some want to say
That is aimed at belittling or discrediting their efforts is being ignored, because like we say in igbo, be your own cheer leader

That said
June 12 revolt was commendable
It culminated in the end of IBB
No one should belittle that feat as well....

9jatriot:
Each time I hear youth saying they are doing what their parents couldn't do because of this one protest, I laugh. Almost 6 days of protest still no military, that would not have happened under IBB and definitely under Abacha and yet during that time was even the height of protest even at the risk of their lives.

Last week on my way back from work in the night, i drove to where the protesters were at Alausa. Free passage and access to where they are camped playing football in the night. i Just laff. I said to myself that this generation are very lucky that we are in civilian regime. Look at how they just exposed themselves to easy pickings. Try such under IBB or Abacha.

Maybe they need to go and read about NADECO and people like Kokori and Kudirat Abiola. They formed an online radio called 'Soro Soke' and they are clapping for themselves not knowing that there was NADECO radio during June 12 times.

You guys keep missing the point, I personally have not met one person who does not support #endsars, what dissenting voicing are saying or trying to remind you of is that nature abhors vacuum. Without a proper transition and replacement plan, the gains of the initial process of protest will be derailed. That is not the same as being okay with the present realities of having a Camry. Anyone with a sense of history will know that when prolonged, hoodlums who have been envying that your Camry will seize the opportunity to destroy it, afterall, na endsars protest.

DexterousOne:



You have said it all

That delusional state of "comfort" some ot our people find themselves in is what is still deceiving them

NL1960:


Last week on my way back from work in the night, i drove to where the protesters were at Alausa. Free passage and access to where they are camped playing football in the night. i Just laff. I said to myself that this generation are very lucky that we are in civilian regime. Look at how they just exposed themselves to easy pickings. Try such under IBB or Abacha.

Maybe they need to go and read about NADECO and people like Kokori and Kudirat Abiola. They formed an online radio called 'Soro Soke' and they are clapping for themselves not knowing that there was NADECO radio during June 12 times.

There is nothing to be lucky about sir.....We are in a democratic regime...And this is how a sane society should function and be safe...except you want to pick them because nobody is .....

handsomebolanle:


There is nothing to be lucky about sir.....We are in a democratic regime...And this is how a sane society should function and be safe...except you want to pick them because nobody is .....

Democratic regime in theory. Rwanda is also in a democratic regime. People there should go and protest and see what Kagame will do.

9jatriot:
Yes, commendable, but making it look like those before them folded their hands and watched the country derail is not true. Also please note, June 12 protest was not the only protest that period. Sowore is popular now before he was at the forefront of a lot of protest then.

Anyway, this na TB thread.

The baby boomer generation failed this country and deserve no respect

Fact !

It's the two generations after them that I can say tried to turn things around
And these two generations are 49 and below (mostly )

The boomer generation left a failed and dilapidated country for us
And are shameless (largely so)

However if the current ones fail as well
They will also be categorised as those who failed the country too

NL1960:


Democratic regime in theory. Rwanda is also in a democratic regime. People there should go and protest and see what Kagame will do.

Is this Rwanda?...I'm not in for any unproductive comparison and discussion jare.......

Since COVID-19 lockdowns began in the country in April, more Nigerians have died from security forces than by the virus - Aljazeera #ENDSARS