polaa:


so when do you think is the best time to leave?
Also what if your school is basically free and you wouldn't have to spend the millions on tution fee do you still advice to leave?

First of all tell me one country that offers you free education without requiring you to show millions of naira for maintenance.

Hello guys! Informanta you're really doing a great job here.
Guys make Una make suggestions to me, I get OND and I wan japa. I dae reason Germany and I dae 100level in a reputable federal university like this but we Neva write exam cus of covid and ASUU strike so I no get 100level transcript at hand. Which European country when go fit accept my Ond for Bsc program, preferably engineering. Thanks in advance.

justwise:


You will also pay bills abroad even if you are not using it, yes going through schooling is a good idea but its pointless paying millions to foreign universities only to end up doing online studying, that is a premium long distance studying and at the end you get the same certificate with someone in Nigeria.

Like someone mentioned here before..you need to think about the possibility of you getting a job before and after graduation, the reality is that within a year you have spent close to £/$ 25K to £/$30K or even more and at the end you get nothing but shinny qualification.

Many countries will allow you to remain and work for 2yrs but if you can't get a job then you just wasted your money and time.

Not many Nigerians leave the country with the intention to engage in crime when they get here but situation like this forced many into crime and finally prison.

Light, internet and good road you think that matters will not be remembered when reality set-in within months.

I'm basically saying..prepare before leaving and know the right time to leave else you will regret it. Now is the wrong time to leave.

You have spoken really well, but how would we know we won't get a job if we don't try?

For me I am pursuing a very well sort after course in the field of Engineering, which has really high prospect and demand and is in the list of critical skill set of most established foreign countries, hence earning a foreign degree would give me more opportunities even to migrate to other countries for jobs or Permanent Residency..... And I believe this also goes for many others here also, the main idea is moving out and creating opportunities, provided the person can afford the choice.... There is a saying in Igbo, "" They don't stay one place to watch a Masquerade"" which goes ahead to mean one must move around, good covid 19 is here and ravaging but life still continues, and dreams are still met, what if corona decides to stay for the next 30years before a vaccine is found, HIV has lived for God's knows how long and no vaccine yet in sight, what if covid 19 takes same route, would u advice someone to wait in Nigeria with his money till whenever everything gets back to normal?

Obviously things would never be normal ever again in the world even if a vaccine is gound, so why should one wait in a country you can't even have slightest idea of what to expect the next day? hence I feel the earlier persons adapt and adjust to the current situation the better for anyone, time would obviously not wait for anyone.....

If persons that their stuffs where burnt of burgled where told something dat started as a peaceful protest would result into that would they have believed, those are people's life investment gone down within seconds at most hours and no rescue in sight.

In the outside world is that how peaceful protest results into?

Sir I do not think any amount is too much to pay just to have a feel of heaven on earth ( foreign land).

For me there is no better time to stay in Nigeria, or best time not to stay, I would keep on trying till I am out....

Ounce again I appreciate you for finding time to deliberate constructively with us here, obviously persons are having their decisions shappened even more

Informanta:


You have spoken really well, but how would we know we won't get a job if we don't try?

For me I am pursuing a very well sort after course in the field of Engineering, which has really high prospect and demand and is in the list of critical skill set of most established foreign countries, hence earning a foreign degree would give me more opportunities even to migrate to other countries for jobs or Permanent Residency..... And I believe this also goes for many others here also, the main idea is moving out and creating opportunities, provided the person can afford the choice.... There is a saying in Igbo, "" They don't stay one place to watch a Masquerade"" which goes ahead to mean one must move around, good covid 19 is here and ravaging but life still continues, and dreams are still met, what if corona decides to stay for the next 30years would u advice someone to wait till everything gets back to normal, obviously things would never be normal again, hence I feel the earlier persons adapt and adjust to a current situation the better for anyone, time would obviously not wait for anyone.....

Ounce again I appreciate you for finding time to deliberate constructively with us here, obviously persons are having their decisions shappened even more

If the country is in recession and you are on visa

justwise:


If the country is in recession and you are on visa

Exactly sir..... Though I modified d intial post pls read it and share your tots to the additions made

To the bolded things are changing, before now it was more of impossible to have full online lectures,

Sir, even Engineering Mathematics that requires one on one contact is even taught online with the aide of a blackboard app.... that's the power of technology no school in Nigeria has been able to get to that standard, and this was an invention that never took the whites more than 6months to come up with.

Right here in Nigeria people work from home even bankers.... All this are changes....

I want to belive persons where laid off because of the global Shock and confusion d virus came with, with no clear route on its source, mode of transmission and lack of immediate technology to respond immediately to it, that is very very understandable, I still spoke to my friend in Canada today and he told me he is back to work but he works from home, and gets paid.

That's clear adaptation.

GreatSage:
Hello guys! Informanta you're really doing a great job here.
Guys make Una make suggestions to me, I get OND and I wan japa. I dae reason Germany and I dae 100level in a reputable federal university like this but we Neva write exam cus of covid and ASUU strike so I no get 100level transcript at hand. Which European country when go fit accept my Ond for Bsc program, preferably engineering. Thanks in advance.

Bro am quite limited in information regarding to your question, but I think they may have pre BSC courses just as they have pre Msc courses, better still you can use your o-level certificate to gain admission into BSC as I do not think they recognise OND as a degree this is just a Nigerian degree (ordinary National Diploma) not a global educationally accepted degree, but u can research more in that segment while we await persons with such experience to share their experiences.

Hello everyone.. what do you guys think about shengen visa. Bcus I'm considering if I should apply for it

eboigbedavid1:
Hello everyone.. what do you guys think about shengen visa. Bcus I'm considering if I should apply for it

Try to be explicit in your question, to me your question doesnt have direction....or information to proffer any answer....

TestimoneyTesti:


Try to be explicit in your question, to me your question doesnt have direction....or information to proffer any answer....

Ok.... From my research, shengen visa gives access to most European countries ( I'm eyeing Germany). But it's more or less for a short stay bcus u can't spend more Dan 3 months in a particular country and also can't use d visa after 6 months. So as someone whose intention is to go hustle over there and not coming back to 9ja in d nearest future, do you think using the shenge visa to go over to a country like Germany is a good idea and not a waste of money.. someone is telling me to go along, dat once I get there, there will be a way out

Informanta:


Bro am quite limited in information regarding to your question, but I think they may have pre BSC courses just as they have pre Msc courses, better still you can use your o-level certificate to gain admission into BSC as I do not think they recognise OND as a degree this is just a Nigerian degree (ordinary National Diploma) not a global educationally accepted degree, but u can research more in that segment while we await persons with such experience to share their experiences.

Would there be any difference if he has his 100level transcript rather than an OND??

GreatSage:
Hello guys! Informanta you're really doing a great job here.
Guys make Una make suggestions to me, I get OND and I wan japa. I dae reason Germany and I dae 100level in a reputable federal university like this but we Neva write exam cus of covid and ASUU strike so I no get 100level transcript at hand. Which European country when go fit accept my Ond for Bsc program, preferably engineering. Thanks in advance.

Wetin you find go 100level?

With your OND,you could have just done direct entry to your preferred university and you will start from 200 level NOT 100 level.

eboigbedavid1:


Ok.... From my research, shengen visa gives access to most European countries ( I'm eyeing Germany). But it's more or less for a short stay bcus u can't spend more Dan 3 months in a particular country and also can't use d visa after 6 months. So as someone whose intention is to go hustle over there and not coming back to 9ja in d nearest future, do you think using the shenge visa to go over to a country like Germany is a good idea and not a waste of money.. someone is telling me to go along, dat once I get there, there will be a way out

The person telling you to go along should be kind to give you details so you have a direction, not just tell u to go, that there will b a way.... hope it's not all this agents trying to get agent money from you?

Note if you succeed and go and you dont return as appropriate, your subsequent visa can be put into jeopardy..... think am well and research before u put leg

Albertone:


Would there be any difference if he has his 100level transcript rather than an OND??

No difference as yr1 transcript no be degree certificate, they cNt use ur yr1 transcript for anything

TestimoneyTesti:



No difference as yr1 transcript no be degree certificate, they cNt use ur yr1 transcript for anything

I heard transferring to another university will need the transcript of your completed years.

Example,if you finished 200level and want to start 300level abroad,your 100 and 200 level transcript is needed.

oikotas44:
Hello Informanta
Thanks for the insight. Its very helpful
I want to ask where you got the update that UK has not started issuing PGWP for two years after studies?

what of normal migration

TestimoneyTesti:



No difference as yr1 transcript no be degree certificate, they cNt use ur yr1 transcript for anything

He can use that to apply for BSC in Germany.

GreatSage:
Hello guys! Informanta you're really doing a great job here.
Guys make Una make suggestions to me, I get OND and I wan japa. I dae reason Germany and I dae 100level in a reputable federal university like this but we Neva write exam cus of covid and ASUU strike so I no get 100level transcript at hand. Which European country when go fit accept my Ond for Bsc program, preferably engineering. Thanks in advance.

We hype federal universities too much. A reputable university would not allow its students to stay at home due to strike.

Albertone:


I heard transferring to another university will need the transcript of your completed years.

Example,if you finished 200level and want to start 300level abroad,your 100 and 200 level transcript is needed.

This is what is actually supposed to be, but I have never seen it work in Nigeria, as Most schools in Nigeria don't have such joy to assist in transfer programs,

Regularisation of transfer programs requires a lot of correspondence between the two universities based on my own experience I think Nigerian universities are two lazy to assist in that.....

Just to send confirmation of your own BSC result to abroad you would have to work around d admin block from office to office for more than 2weeks as if you are begging them to dash you result you already earned. How much more when it now comes to you informing them that you want to go abroad and continue your study.... For me the stress isn't worth it

boyka1:


We hype federal universities too much. A reputable university would not allow its students to stay at home due to strike.

They won't because you are paying a fortune just to earn a sub standard degree that can't stand a federal degree at the long run, hence they don't have any reason to keep their substandard students at home..... Else their substandard lecturers would go hungry and protest.....

Here is not a place to argue on reputable or not reputable University that you have the money to dash someone to use and buy a private jet doesn't mean everyone have such money to waste..... not like as if i attended a federal or private university but I hate such oppressive and pride filled statements.

Pls limit your post here to the objectives of this thread.

paragon40:
He can use that to apply for BSC in Germany.

Pls kindly explain in details for him and other prospects to gain from

Informanta:


Bro am quite limited in information regarding to your question, but I think they may have pre BSC courses just as they have pre Msc courses, better still you can use your o-level certificate to gain admission into BSC as I do not think they recognise OND as a degree this is just a Nigerian degree (ordinary National Diploma) not a global educationally accepted degree, but u can research more in that segment while we await persons with such experience to share their experiences.

Thanks for your input. Kindly help with lists of those european universities that accepts Olevel.

Albertone:


Would there be any difference if he has his 100level transcript rather than an OND??

Bro as at now I would have liked getting that 100 transcript but I would rather have them both.

with what I read now I am confused and my plan is to leave next year via study route but with what people are saying here now about staying in Nigeria got me confused and Nigeria is not easy I must confess I am tired of hoping that Nigeria will be better...

Informanta:
This is specifically for those persons who wish to wait till next year before dey decide to migrate

Over the last 5days the most searched question on google is

How do I leave Nigeria to another country?

If by now you are not yet Determined to Move, then honestly you deserve a golden seat in your village square close to where the well filled with Dollars is built..... and if they don't give you the seat then it means you and I must MOVE

A bit to UK

I researched TEESSIDE UNIVERSITY and it happens that their tuition fee is considerably lower than other schools just as santa2 said

Bro the tuition is £13,000 a year.. I can take this risk if I can get a job that can take care of this..

GreatSage:

Bro the tuition is £13,000 a year.. I can take this risk if I can get a job that can take care of this..

do they accept installmental payment?

TestimoneyTesti:



The person telling you to go along should be kind to give you details so you have a direction, not just tell u to go, that there will b a way.... hope it's not all this agents trying to get agent money from you?

Note if you succeed and go and you dont return as appropriate, your subsequent visa can be put into jeopardy..... think am well and research before u put leg

Thank you sir... I will do my research

GreatSage:

Thanks for your input. Kindly help with lists of those european universities that accepts Olevel.

Oga Na MSc I dey pursue, not BSC..... Make effort yourself and use Google . Com try and catch fish not wait to be spoon fed.... I already said it earlier am not knowledgeable with BSC admission as dats not my focus.

saipn:
with what I read now I am confused and my plan is to leave next year via study route but with what people are saying here now about staying in Nigeria got me confused and Nigeria is not easy I must confess I am tired of hoping that Nigeria will be better...

Confused people are not yet determined, confusion requires you to take more time off to decide, it's good you are confused at this point based on valid discussions on the Pros and Cons.... It's all left to you to make your decision which is the aim of this group..... It's all a personal race..... And a personal decision

Informanta:


This is what is actually supposed to be, but I have never seen it work in Nigeria, as Most schools in Nigeria don't have such joy to assist in transfer programs,

Regularisation of transfer programs requires a lot of correspondence between the two universities based on my own experience I think Nigerian universities are two lazy to assist in that.....

Just to send confirmation of your own BSC result to abroad you would have to work around d admin block from office to office for more than 2weeks as if you are begging them to dash you result you already earned. How much more when it now comes to you informing them that you want to go abroad and continue your study.... For me the stress isn't worth it

Truer words have not been said!

This is exactly what made me opt for either starting abroad afresh or wait till I graduate and go there rather than transferring.

By the way,things could get more faster if you are ready to water their pockets.

Informanta:


Oga Na MSc I dey pursue, not BSC..... Make effort yourself and use Google . Com try and catch fish not wait to be spoon fed.... I already said it earlier am not knowledgeable with BSC admission as dats not my focus.

Thanks for your reply but the fact that I wanted to hear Ur opinion doesn't mean I want to be spoon fed. I know of a university in Estonia that accepts o levels for Bsc admission, the fact that I don't want to apply to that university is story for another day.

GreatSage:

Thanks for your reply but the fact that I wanted to hear Ur opinion doesn't mean I want to be spoon fed. I know of a university in Estonia that accepts o levels for Bsc admission, the fact that I don't want to apply to that university is story for another day.

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Omo guys how Una see Hungary matter as per study and work?