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Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Uyi168: 10:54pm On Oct 25, 2020
urchcoded:
I know this fully well but I'm also beginning to realize that religion is actually important at least for some people.
..
It's very important..
It's serves as a coping mechanism for many..a false one though..
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Karleb(m): 3:08am On Oct 26, 2020
oladosu59996:
U Have endangered her soul to total damnation which will eventually lead her to hell.
undecided
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by pozehnani(f): 6:07am On Oct 26, 2020
You eventually let the devil use you.

You better repent genuinely let her see it and return back to the faith. You don't know you need her prayers now that you're going for service.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by frozen70(f): 7:53am On Oct 26, 2020
urchcoded:
I'll try to make this as brief as possible. I stopped believing in God finally last year. I grew up in a very religious Christian family, but I became an unbeliever after analysing religion. I'm the only one living with my mother and few weeks ago she engaged me in a discussion about why I'm allowing the devil use me, I told her the Devil is not using me as I don't believe in him either. I went on to carefully explain to her why I think God probably does not exist and even if he does,there is no way to ascertain that Christianity is the right religion amongst other thousands of religions. Honestly I wasn't trying to get her to stop being a Christian or anything I was just trying to let her understand my stand because she has been worried for a long time. That night around 1am I woke up from sleep to hear her crying, I tip toed to her room and saw her kneeling down praying and crying uncontrollably she was actually praying for me and for God to reveal himself to me. Seeing her cry hurt me a lot and I couldn't sleep the rest of the night. Waking up the next morning I noticed she didn't do her normal morning devotion and prayers. I wasn't happy with the development but I ignored her. She came back in the night and still didn't pray. I had to reluctantly ask her why she was no more praying, she coldly replied me saying "Shea you said prayer doesn't work and there is no God" and she walked away. I've been really really upset because I know she can't actually do without religion. This is what she has known all her life, she's a Sunday school teacher. She needs religion because her life is centered on it. My father died Early this year and I'm due to go for NYSC by next month. pls how do I resolve this situation cos it breaks me to see her so sad and dejected and it might be worse when I leave. Should I pretend to have had an encounter with God or something. I really could use some advice here. If you don't have any just avoid the thread.
You are the one that manipulated her to the situation she is now
You have to do the needful and take her back to her previous religious life and you too get back to it

If you decide not to trust or believe God you should have kept it to yourself alone

Since her husband is late she now sees you as her husband and believes everything you tells her

Join her and bring her back to prayers and do you weird life private from her sight
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 1:38pm On Oct 26, 2020
frozen70:
You are the one that manipulated her to the situation she is now
You have to do the needful and take her back to her previous religious life and you too get back to it

If you decide not to trust or believe God you should have kept it to yourself alone

Since her husband is late she now sees you as her husband and believes everything you tells her

Join her and bring her back to prayers and do you weird life private from her sight
there is no weird thing I'm doing, I just don't join her in morning prayers, I go about my normal life. I'm not even an immoral person because naturally I don't like waywardness. I never tried to impose my unbelieve on her. I think what I'll do is talk to her and tell her that religion is not really a bad thing, and maybe look for some advantages of religion to back it up.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 1:51pm On Oct 26, 2020
pozehnani:
You eventually let the devil use you.

You better repent genuinely let her see it and return back to the faith. You don't know you need her prayers now that you're going for service.
I'm not a bad person, I'm actually by all standards a better person than most christians and she knows this. The problem is she just can't wrap her head around the fact that her own son doesn't believe in God because of the way we were trained. My brother is a pastor with Dominion city. What should I repent from?
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by frozen70(f): 2:01pm On Oct 26, 2020
urchcoded:
there is no weird thing I'm doing, I just don't join her in morning prayers, I go about my normal life. I'm not even an immoral person because naturally I don't like waywardness. I never tried to impose my unbelieve on her. I think what I'll do is talk to her and tell her that religion is not really a bad thing, and maybe look for some advantages of religion to back it up.
Like I said, she now looks up to you

Seat her down and readjust her mind towards religion then you can carry on your own way without her noticing your withdrawal from religious matters
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by pozehnani(f): 2:04pm On Oct 26, 2020
urchcoded:
I'm not a bad person, I'm actually by all standards a better person than most christians and she knows this. The problem is she just can't wrap her head around the fact that her own son doesn't believe in God because of the way we were trained. My brother is a pastor with Dominion city. What should I repent from?
Your being good does not make you better than true Christians because what qualifies them is not their good deeds but a higher and greater sacrifice which is Christ's Righteouness. So, you relying on your self righteosness which is a filthy rag according to God, only sets you under them until you accept Christ and all he did for you on the cross. and that is the true repentance I'm talking about.

Now making a brethren ( your mum) backslide is a double sin and punishment for you.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Chinny024(f): 7:21pm On Oct 29, 2020
Her prayer might be the one working for you all these years!!!....
You might be enjoying unmerited grace from God on her behalf...
Don't bother moving an inch to the camp if you've not given your life to Christ!!!
Repent and ask for forgiveness before it's too late!!!
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Clicked(f): 11:55pm On Oct 30, 2020
Don't worry, you did not suddenly make your mum an atheist. I suspect that when she was praying that night, she told God that she would stop praying to him until he converts you back to Christianity.

Something like a vow, a way to force God to do something about your lack of faith. Whatever you do with this information is up to you.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Uyi168: 10:33am On Oct 31, 2020
Chinny024:
Her prayer might be the one working for you all these years!!!....
You might be enjoying unmerited grace from God on her behalf...
Don't bother moving an inch to the camp if you've not given your life to Christ!!!
Repent and ask for forgiveness before it's too late!!!
..
The billion of Muslims and non Christains out there, whose prayers have they been sustaining on?
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by ambitiouschap17: 10:50am On Oct 31, 2020
parkervero:
You actually got it wrong, I mean the whole thing. There is different between religion and spirituality.

If you want to learn about Christ through a former atheist you can search for Dr. David Wood on YouTube. His channel is more exposing Islam and Muhammed but does create content for atheists too.

As for your mummy, leave her first and focus on your disbelief, she will be fine. Don't just exhibit your act of disbelief in her presence.
Lol bro David Wood that hijabi kill In the debate
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 11:09am On Oct 31, 2020
Clicked:
Don't worry, you did not suddenly make your mum an atheist. I suspect that when she was praying that night, she told God that she would stop praying to him until he converts you back to Christianity.

Something like a vow, a way to force God to do something about your lack of faith. Whatever you do with this information is up to you.
wow, I think you might be just right. I know absolutely what to do now.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 11:13am On Oct 31, 2020
Chinny024:
Her prayer might be the one working for you all these years!!!....
You might be enjoying unmerited grace from God on her behalf...
Don't bother moving an inch to the camp if you've not given your life to Christ!!!
Repent and ask for forgiveness before it's too late!!!
this is sounding like a threat and it's unnecessary, if I want to turn to religion it would be adonitology not Christianity adonitology is way cooler for me.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Advision: 2:49pm On Oct 31, 2020
urchcoded:
this is sounding like a threat and it's unnecessary, if I want to turn to religion it would be adonitology not Christianity adonitology is way cooler for me.
Nothing Musa no go see for gate shocked shocked shocked

Bro, now I agree you need Christ

Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by LadyTianna(f): 3:12pm On Oct 31, 2020
You shouldn't have done that bro. You took away her hope
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by parkervero(m): 4:08pm On Oct 31, 2020
ambitiouschap17:
Lol bro David Wood that hijabi kill In the debate
Huh? What was your objective analysis based on for you to arrive at this conclusion?

It being long since I watched the so called "debate".

When SilverNorGold said MH won the debate, I told him that David Wood won instead.

Here is my analysis on the show.

The topic was Tahweed and Trinity (both concepts are some how difficult to dive into I think thats why they chose that topic).

If you are the type that does analysis on topics you would know MH did not address most of what David Wood raised during the session. Hijab was not debating he was just ranting and raging, his responses or let me say replies were on attack on Islam, he did not talk more on tahweed.
Hijab knew that he will never win debating logically with David as it has seen in the past debates. So, this time he went rough/verbal attack and make some illogical statements on the podium. He is inconsistent, claiming the other side is embarrassing, claiming that there are other interpretations of Arabic that only he understands. His arguments are convincing only to Muslims who recognize the arguments he references. A muslim is deeply impressed by all the quranic knowledge of the muslim apologist, especially if he is able to mix a lot of Quranic Arabic through his plea. He personally attacked David Wood instead of refuting his points.
He created an atmosphere with his silly fans that made many including you think he won. For example, David Wood asked him: Allah and his angel prayed FOR the prophet. Whom did Allah pray to?
Muhammed hijab replied: I know this is coming. Read the correct translation.
Allah and his angel prayed FOR the prophet not TO the prophet. The moment he read the supposed correct translation the incessant cheering from the his fans for one party was embarrassing. Sensible and logical person would know he didn't refute David Wood.

David Wood is a great debater he has great knowledge of quran and hadith. He is not afraid to debate anyone. It is perhaps for this reason that Dr. Zakir Naik has refused to debate him.

Can you drop some of the things you think made him (MH) win?
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Nobody: 5:22pm On Oct 31, 2020
ambitiouschap17:
Lol bro David Wood that hijabi kill In the debate
Lol, my brother, glad you watched the debate. Na the same thing I tell parkervero and Agbegbaorogboye, and I was being objective..

Frankly speaking, anybody wey watch that debate with unbiased mind go know.. cheesy
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 5:58pm On Oct 31, 2020
Advision:
Nothing Musa no go see for gate shocked shocked shocked

Bro, now I agree you need Christ
bro talk say you no like this religion. I just wish they have a branch in Nigeria.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 6:00pm On Oct 31, 2020
LadyTianna:
You shouldn't have done that bro. You took away her hope
I didn't know better. I've somehow managed to get her believing again.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by OrDan(m): 6:18pm On Oct 31, 2020
urchcoded:
I didn't know better. I've somehow managed to get her believing again.
How did you do it? Please share
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Advision: 6:39pm On Oct 31, 2020
urchcoded:
bro talk say you no like this religion. I just wish they have a branch in Nigeria.
grin you can start it and become the general overseer
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Agbegbaorogboye: 6:50pm On Oct 31, 2020
Advision:
Nothing Musa no go see for gate shocked shocked shocked

Bro, now I agree you need Christ
He worships butt? undecided
Like wakes up every morning and pray to a woman's ass which is probably in the toilet passing out shit? undecided
He should report to yaba left abeg
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Agbegbaorogboye: 6:53pm On Oct 31, 2020
urchcoded:
bro talk say you no like this religion. I just wish they have a branch in Nigeria.
Why don't you start the branch?!
Just tell your mum you're angry with God because you're sex starved and you ain't getting any.
Instead of convincing her God doesn't exist so you can worship a woman's ass.
Weyrey gbogbo
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Agbegbaorogboye: 6:56pm On Oct 31, 2020
SilverNorGold:
Lol, my brother, glad you watched the debate. Na the same thing I tell and I was being objective..

Frankly speaking, anybody wey watch that debate with unbiased mind go know.. cheesy
Ogbeni stop quoting me until you can explain the obvious plagiarism in Quran.
I hate fools
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by LadyTianna(f): 7:23pm On Oct 31, 2020
urchcoded:
I didn't know better. I've somehow managed to get her believing again.
How did you manage that?
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Nobody: 7:27pm On Oct 31, 2020
Agbegbaorogboye:
I hate fools
I dun really do this my brother strong thing o grin grin..

You still dey regurgitate something wey dey clearly here (https://www.nairaland.com/6214422/nice-france-knife-church-attack/17#95514110) .. plus my other posts.. Instead, you commot shoe run as e dey hot.. cheesy

May God bless us all
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 9:30pm On Oct 31, 2020
LadyTianna:
How did you manage that?
it's a bit long story. But in summary I introduced her to the Grace version of Christianity as opposed to the old school assemblies of God doctrines that she's used to, I used scriptures because I know them well, took her to house on the Rock church, she admitted she enjoyed the cool tushed up environment and people dressing nicely and the fact that they keep to time, so she now feels like she's been released from a cage of assemblies of God and their outdated difficult doctrines and lifestyle and feels she's now under grace bla bla bla. I'm cool with that.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 9:33pm On Oct 31, 2020
Advision:
grin you can start it and become the general overseer
I need Gods. As in I need curvy butt women.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 9:37pm On Oct 31, 2020
Agbegbaorogboye:
Why don't you start the branch?!
Just tell your mum you're angry with God because you're sex starved and you ain't getting any.
Instead of convincing her God doesn't exist so you can worship a woman's ass.
Weyrey gbogbo
lol no I'm not angry with God and no I'm not sex starved, infact I had the best pvssies when I was the keyboardist of a popular church in Nigeria, my choir sisters were very generous In that aspect. So, if it's because of sex I'll rather remain religious for real.
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by Agbegbaorogboye: 9:40pm On Oct 31, 2020
urchcoded:
lol no I'm not angry with God and no I'm not sex starved, infact I had the best pvssies when I was the keyboardist of a popular church in Nigeria, my choir sisters were very generous I'm that aspect. So, if it's because of sex I'll rather remain religious for real.
So the pussies were so sweet you decided you want to spend the rest of your life worshipping them?
What am I hearing self
Re: Help: My Mother Stopped Praying by urchcoded(op): 9:48pm On Oct 31, 2020
Agbegbaorogboye:
So the pussies were so sweet you decided you want to spend the rest of your life worshipping them?
What am I hearing self
pussy not the same as ass. I mean I rather get on my knees and worship a woman with a very nice curvy ass that I can see with my eyes than worshipping some God that I've never seen before, only heard stories of him turning water to wine and other stuff which I don't see him doing nowadays.
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