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Re: Virginity Vs Character by innobarca(m): 5:01pm On Nov 01, 2020
Liposure:
make dem test small. Body no be firewood

True shaa.
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Donspicey: 5:08pm On Nov 01, 2020
NoToPile:


Since you are a christain you should know the verses that support sexual purity and those that speak against immorality.


Lolssss,,,,sign say u no dey read Bible alwayssss
Re: Virginity Vs Character by tosyne2much(m): 5:15pm On Nov 01, 2020
Character goes beyond virginity


Virginity is also very good but it's not the ultimate thing one should place premium on

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by JastSiryin(m): 5:21pm On Nov 01, 2020
coolsegun2002:


Wait.....let’s be real.... for once, let’s forget the picture Hollywood and pornn has fed this generation with, including religion or whateva...

Am I supposed to be happy the woman I’m going to marry has been drilled by 10 other men with a couple of abortions to match....??
There’s nothing nice about it.
...so I don’t get why you people try to paint the picture that there’s nothing wrong with not having bodily discipline.

That picture is a hollywood script...walk into a bar or club ... have sex with random strangers spontaneously ( have u noticed Hollywood acts movies like condoms don’t exist, arbortion don’t exist, like sex is always magical and everything is cool after wards)

over the years people have just come to overlook these things...largely becos u can’t even get 1 virgin out of 100 girls anymore... so the available has become the desired.....that doesn’t mean we should now make chastity an old school thing.

Sex is not food...this our generation treats sex like they need it for breathing...
First off, no one is forcing you to be happy with that sort of thing, and i mean NO ONE. It's your choice. My main grouse is with insisting that there's something wrong with people who'd think and act otherwise.

But if this were the case, I strongly believe promiscuous men should be looked at in that regard if not, that's a severe double standard.

With that being said, I'd like to show you a counter argument that may likely point to Religion as the culprit, other than Porn and Hollywood.

Now, assuming you're a Christian... America has practiced Christianity for a far longer time than us. And like most religions of the world, Christianity or atleast Christians have always viewed sex as some sort of taboo. It was seldom talked about even by the clergy the way it is now.

It was believed to be something that should be done purely for recreational purposes. Even to view it as something pleasurable was seen as dirty and perverse. There are many writings that allude to this view, most especially in old Christian texts.

Christians, most especially in nations like us who are relatively new to this religion, are only just now adopting a more flexible view

I sometimes wonder if this change of view was out of our own dissatisfaction, or a proper understanding of the Bible.

Now lemme say this... When you make something a taboo or restrict it,there is a tendency to spark up intense interest in such a thing. And there are many examples that prove so. It's why drugs would never be eradicated.

The present pervading hyper-fixation on sex could be looked at as a direct response to the sexually repressive nature of religion. Even we haven't been left out in toeing this path. We're humans afterall.

So don't be too sure Hollywood is to blame. It's just a symptom not the cause. Sex sells, just like violence. They are born out of our hidden desires.

Sexual depravity isn't anything new. I can't say if previous generations were better sef. For me the major difference is just how much everything is in your face now. Thanks to technology and the media. Let's live and let live abeg

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by Nobody: 5:27pm On Nov 01, 2020
Agritech:
Being a virgin lady in this present world shows there is a high probability the lady has other good attributes like :
1. The lady most likely has self control, the urge is there, but controlling sexual urge isn't easy. It is very easy for a lady to have s_x.

2. She is most likely not gullible. guys would try to convince her, non virgins girls would try to convince her, and she still didn't listen. Fews ladies are like that.

3. She is most likely not greedy. Money opens many girls legs.

4. She is most likely a careful person as she must have been avoiding places/circumstances where there is high likelihood that her viginity would be forcefully taken.

5. She is more likely to be God fearing. Keeping virginity is very dificulty, the fear of God is most likely what is making her do it.

That is not to say a nonvirgin can't have these attributes, but if you have 10 virgin girls and 10 nonvirgin girls, and you randomly sellect one girl each from the two groups, the girl sellected from the virgin group is most likely to be a better person.
Gbam
Re: Virginity Vs Character by folake4u(f): 5:33pm On Nov 01, 2020
Alexaonfleek:
Hmm okay let me rephrase what I said. There are only 10 virgin guys in naija Your colleague=-1,which is 9 now. Pls encourage your colleague,it's not easy. embarassed Froshloaded,should I add your name to make it 8?
Out of these 10 virgin guys in naija,five are foolish and five are wise.

You just want to kill me with laughter here grin grin grin grin.
Do you believe Froshloaded? cheesy cheesy.

So true.
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Dynamite789: 5:36pm On Nov 01, 2020
The poster didnt compare well.
The comparison should be which do you prefer between a virgin with bad character and a non virgin with good character?
Re: Virginity Vs Character by lawrykings(m): 5:37pm On Nov 01, 2020
wirinet:

Virginity is not even rated. Virginity was only important when girls were given away at very young age (13 - 17 years). It is impractical to expect a 25 year old girl that went through university, NYSC and pursuing a career to remain a virgin.

I would be very weary of marrying a thirty year old virgin. I feel something must be amiss for her to remain a virgin that long.

your opinion doesn't change what virginity commands to those that understands chastity and purity.

little advise for you, never be part of a sin no matter how normalized or in vogue it is, for it doesn't change the fact it is still sin.
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Froshloaded: 5:38pm On Nov 01, 2020
Alexaonfleek:
Hmm okay let me rephrase what I said.
There are only 10 virgin guys in naija
Your colleague=-1,which is 9 now.
Pls encourage your colleague,it's not easy. embarassed
Froshloaded,should I add your name to make it 8?

Out of these 10 virgin guys in naija,five are foolish and five are wise.

I'm a virgin babe...

What do you mean by the last line.
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Froshloaded: 5:39pm On Nov 01, 2020
folake4u:



You just want to kill me with laughter here grin grin grin grin.

Do you believe Froshloaded? cheesy cheesy.


So true.

I'm a virgin Folake cool
Re: Virginity Vs Character by duality(m): 5:39pm On Nov 01, 2020
immortalcrown:
This generation makes so much effort to justify some unethical behaviours. This is not the major problem. The major problem is that the same society ridicules ethical norms to make the unethical behaviours more acceptable. People often say "If you want to marry, go for a woman that has a good character. Virginity does not matter".

Do not tell me to stop searching for a virgin as a wife. Stop telling me that virginity is just for a night while manners last for a lifetime. A mannerless virgin is better than a mannerless person that has been deflowered. A wise virgin is more precious than a wise person that has been deflowered. A beautiful or handsome virgin worths more than a beautiful or handsome person that has been deflowered. Bad character is not unique to virgins or non-virgins. So, what is your point?

You better tell me that some people lost their virginity under life-threatening circumstances. You better tell me that not all the persons that have lost their virginity are irresponsible. Stop sounding as if virginity is worthless. Stop sounding as if all the virgins have bad characters and all the people that have lost their own virginity have good characters. Stop using constructive statements to encourage and justify sexual immorality. If you cannot identify a virgin that has a good character, you cannot identify a deflowered person that has a good character.

I read only your post and I'm satisfied because that's what I've been saying and preaching for years.

I've mentioned that all those posts and articles that trivializes Chastity, are born out of satanic wisdom, to push the subtle acceptance of sexual recklessness; Irrespective of who is saying it.

Your post is the truth, therefore I don't care about any other post that will be on the contrary.

Therefore, I bless you with the blessings of the almighty God of heaven. For this truth you have shared, in a time where the ideas of the devil is forcefully broadcasted,

You shall not be defeated in Jesus mighty name!

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by folake4u(f): 5:46pm On Nov 01, 2020
Froshloaded:

I'm a virgin Folake cool
I believe yousmiley
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Youngzedd(m): 6:09pm On Nov 01, 2020
Agritech:
Being a virgin lady in this present world shows there is a high probability the lady has other good attributes like :
1. The lady most likely has self control, the urge is there, but controlling sexual urge isn't easy. It is very easy for a lady to have s_x.

2. She is most likely not gullible. guys would try to convince her, non virgins girls would try to convince her, and she still didn't listen. Fews ladies are like that.

3. She is most likely not greedy. Money opens many girls legs.

4. She is most likely a careful person as she must have been avoiding places/circumstances where there is high likelihood that her viginity would be forcefully taken.

5. She is more likely to be God fearing. Keeping virginity is very dificulty, the fear of God is most likely what is making her do it.

That is not to say a nonvirgin can't have these attributes, but if you have 10 virgin girls and 10 nonvirgin girls, and you randomly sellect one girl each from the two groups, the girl sellected from the virgin group is most likely to be a better person.


I wonder who raised the generation of men we have today, so f00lish. Men with no standard. Our ancestors got standard and that was why they got married using the following three qualities.

1) She's a virgin.
2) She's hard working.
3) She got good character and from a happy/good home.

Today, what are the standards other than big boobs and big ass?


Men messed up the society the very day they lowered their standards. Women haven't lowered their standard since the beginning of mankind.

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by DMerciful(m): 6:13pm On Nov 01, 2020
Character it is. Virginity that has to do with breaking of hymen is meaningless when the clitoris and labia have been broken from birth through circumcision. After cutting out the clitoris and labia, is it small hymen you wanna protect?
Besides, why should a human have sex with only one person forever? Why should a girl or guy of 20yrs not enjoy sex that's a biological activity? What we should preach is safe sex, period!
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Froshloaded: 6:22pm On Nov 01, 2020
folake4u:


I believe yousmiley

Hmm. grin

Are you a virgin? cheesy
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Livingstone124: 6:24pm On Nov 01, 2020
Virginity is another name for good character in our society. It has been like that since the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by Alexaonfleek: 6:30pm On Nov 01, 2020
folake4u:



You just want to kill me with laughter here grin grin grin grin.

Do you believe Froshloaded? cheesy cheesy.


So true.
I don't believe froshloaded but I will add his name since he insists.
So it's now eight men that are virgins in naija which I don't know.


Frosh,my last line is culled from the 10 virgins in the bible.
I think it also applies to the 10 male virgins we have in Nigeria.
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Froshloaded: 6:33pm On Nov 01, 2020
Alexaonfleek:
I don't believe froshloaded but I will add his name since he insists.
So it's now eight men that are virgins in naija which I don't know.


Frosh,my last line is culled from the 10 virgins in the bible.
I think it also applies to the 10 male virgins we have in Nigeria.

Lmao..
Re: Virginity Vs Character by wirinet(m): 6:35pm On Nov 01, 2020
lawrykings:


your opinion doesn't change what virginity commands to those that understands chastity and purity.

What exactly does virginity command? So it's is virginity than confers purity on a human being? So are you pure?


little advise for you, never be part of a sin no matter how normalized or in vogue it is, for it doesn't change the fact it is still sin.

It depends on your religion and your sect. Sin just like beauty is in the mind of the believer. It's even a sin to impose your own beliefs on others. You hate it when muslims impose their beliefs on you.

To some cultures sex is not seen as a sin but as some sort of spiritual exercise.

Learn more about Kama Sutra;


Kama Sutra: Insights on Sex and Spirituality

1. Sexual energy is the primal and creative energy of the universe. All things that are alive come from sexual energy. In animals and other life forms, sexual energy expresses itself as biological creativity. In humans, sexual energy can be creative at all levels – physical, emotional and spiritual. In any situation, where we feel attraction, arousal, awakening, alertness, passion, interest, inspiration, excitement, creativity, enthusiasm, in each of these situations, sexual energy is at work. When ever we feel these states of awareness, we must put our attention on the energy that we are experiencing, nourishing it with our attention, experiencing it with joy and keeping it alive in our awareness.

2. Sexual desire is sacred and chaste. The suppression of sexual energy is false, ugly and unchaste.
https://www.choprafoundation.org/consciousness/kama-sutra/
Re: Virginity Vs Character by immortalcrown(m): 6:36pm On Nov 01, 2020
Kay25:

you have a point but don't make your views limited have seen women who had done well and far better than so called virgins above it character is still what keeps a home not just virginity

My view is limited to you alone and your understanding is responsible for the limitation. In the post, I stated that there are deflowered persons who are responsible. I implied that neither good character nor bad character is peculiar to virgins or non-virgins. As there are non-virgins with good characters, there are virgins with good characters. As there virgins with bad characters, there are deflowered persons with bad characters. There is no society without virgins. There is no society without non-virgins. There is no society in which all the virgins have bad characters. There is no society in which all the deflowered persons have good characters. So, why do people sound as if virgins with characters do not exist?

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by wirinet(m): 6:36pm On Nov 01, 2020
Livingstone124:
Virginity is another name for good character in our society. It has been like that since the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
I am still at loss at the correlation between virginity and character?

Are you a virgin?

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by lawrykings(m): 6:44pm On Nov 01, 2020
wirinet:

What exactly does virginity command? So it's is virginity than confers purity on a human being? So are you pure?



It depends on your religion and your sect. Sin just like beauty is in the mind of the believer. It's even a sin to impose your own beliefs on others. You hate it when muslims impose their beliefs on you.

To some cultures sex is not seen as a sin but as some sort of spiritual exercise.

Learn more about Kama Sutra;




i thought i was chatting with a Christian, that makes it better, give your life to christ, he's the way, truth and life.
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Angrykidd: 6:47pm On Nov 01, 2020
Matrimonous:

There is a character that maintained that virginity. You can't separate the two.
Character?
How about those that lost theirs through rape?
How about those who remain virgins out of fear or need to conform to societal norms?
All virgins have good characters?
Re: Virginity Vs Character by wirinet(m): 6:48pm On Nov 01, 2020
lawrykings:


i thought i was chatting with a Christian, that makes it better, give your life to christ, he's the way, truth and life.

And you think nairaland is a christian only forum or only Christians exists in Nigeria.

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by CelestineNelson: 7:00pm On Nov 01, 2020
TheLasyBuddha:


How this arrives as a front-page material amazes me. Herein, the mod accuses people of devaluing virginity in comparison with manners and character, yet he goes further to devalue deflowered women in comparison with virgins.
This is a poverty mentality mixed with educated illiteracy. For you to think virginity should even make a topic is for a fact stupid.

People who choose to stay untouched is by all means a personal choice. It shouldn't be a basis for moral or uprightness comparison. People who have had sex before aren't less of who they are because of that and it's a choice they made.

If this opinion stems from your delusively perceived knowledge in Christianity, my brother, you are only a Christian but not Christ-like.
Do you really have choice when it comes to God's instructions?
Re: Virginity Vs Character by B2Bmen: 7:03pm On Nov 01, 2020
immortalcrown:
This generation makes so much effort to justify some unethical behaviours. This is not the major problem. The major problem is that the same society ridicules ethical norms to make the unethical behaviours more acceptable. People often say "If you want to marry, go for a woman that has a good character. Virginity does not matter".

Do not tell me to stop searching for a virgin as a wife. Stop telling me that virginity is just for a night while manners last for a lifetime. A mannerless virgin is better than a mannerless person that has been deflowered. A wise virgin is more precious than a wise person that has been deflowered. A beautiful or handsome virgin worths more than a beautiful or handsome person that has been deflowered. Bad character is not unique to virgins or non-virgins. So, what is your point?

You better tell me that some people lost their virginity under life-threatening circumstances. You better tell me that not all the persons that have lost their virginity are irresponsible. Stop sounding as if virginity is worthless. Stop sounding as if all the virgins have bad characters and all the people that have lost their own virginity have good characters. Stop using constructive statements to encourage and justify sexual immorality. If you cannot identify a virgin that has a good character, you cannot identify a deflowered person that has a good character.
what is even virginity without proper good morals and charecter
Re: Virginity Vs Character by folake4u(f): 7:09pm On Nov 01, 2020
Alexaonfleek:
I don't believe froshloaded but I will add his name since he insists.
So it's now eight men that are virgins in naija which I don't know.


Frosh,my last line is culled from the 10 virgins in the bible.
I think it also applies to the 10 male virgins we have in Nigeria.




Lmao! grin grin grin grin.

Froshloaded sha don suffer for your hand, Alexa!
Re: Virginity Vs Character by folake4u(f): 7:10pm On Nov 01, 2020
Froshloaded:


Hmm. grin

Are you a virgin? cheesy




tongue
Re: Virginity Vs Character by coolsegun2002: 7:12pm On Nov 01, 2020
JastSiryin:


First off, no one is forcing you to be happy with that sort of thing, and i mean NO ONE. It's your choice. My main grouse is with insisting that there's something wrong with people who'd think and act otherwise.

Like u said no one is forcing anyone to be happy if his girl has slept with tons of men, equally no one said there’s something wrong with people who think otherwise either... I don’t know how u arrived at this notion..

But if this were the case, I strongly believe promiscuous men should be looked at in that regard if not, that's a severe double standard.

[b]Now, promiscuity is not exclusive to women. No one wants a promiscuous partner....doctors preach against it, many cultures are against it, and yes religion has its own say too... that’s becos religion is all about discipline.... it isn't just about sex...smoking, alcohol, love of money.. etc...u hear abstainance from doctors all the time, but when u hear it from religious people, it becomes a problem...
Still on double standards, now when virginity is being discussed, I agree the load is naturally on the female side....but the truth is, it’s not a double standard, it’s simply nature’s design... men and women are not the same..I cannot over emphasize this fact...
I tell my little niece that’s just clocked 14 this year ....you are not the same with a man, you should be more responsible, men only think of cumming, we never think about getting pregnant, and that’s becos we are not biologically designed to experience such process.
Men don’t commit abortion, there’s no anatomical difference between a non-virgin male and a virgin male...nature is based against women when it comes to sex...it’s not a double standard issue...the earlier we tell our girls this, the better...The other day, a man snapped a picture with his 6 packs, and a lady came to comment that it’s double standard since we castigate women for opening their boobs .... this is irrational ...and stupid...nature is rigged against women naturally, but if any women thinks it’s double standard, it’s a free world.. she can go ahead and take off her top and also sleep with several men[/b]..


With that being said, I'd like to show you a counter argument that may likely point to Religion as the culprit, other than Porn and Hollywood.

Here we go again with blaming religion for our problems.... now let me share a fact with u that’s staring us in the face but we don’t know..the entertainment/ movie industry is a tool of social engineering....Anything that is to be infused into the world is passed through media. It makes things settle with us so when we see it real life we get used to it... if u don’t belive keep blaming religion for why the world simply want to just fvck irresponsibly....the other day there was a news about a guy who assaulted his friend for not exchanging the girl they were have an orgy with.. since when is to cool to have an orgy...for two women to fvck one man at the same time, or Vice Vera, since when did it become cool for 14 year 14-15 year olds to have random sex... since holly wood made it cool for girls to loose their virginity on prom night..... but hey, religion is there.. let’s blame religion..



Let's live and let live abeg

No one is stopping you from living, it’s you promiscuity apologist that always tackle people when they say they prefer a virgin... u start to make it look like it’s becos of religion....which was why I told u..leave religion aside,ain’t nothing cool about high body counts and several abortions...its one of the reasons people have impaired judgement in their marriage..

We don’t have a problem with it if your choice is a lady with 10-15 body counts and several abortaions to match.....U are the one that should let us live with our choice ....

Re: Virginity Vs Character by lawrykings(m): 7:40pm On Nov 01, 2020
wirinet:


And you think nairaland is a christian only forum or only Christians exists in Nigeria.

like i said, Christ has the better plan for you than any religion has to offer you, he died for the sins of the world, you only need to identify with him to get saved.
Re: Virginity Vs Character by Kay25(m): 7:49pm On Nov 01, 2020
immortalcrown:


My view is limited to you alone and your understanding is responsible for the limitation. In the post, I stated that there are deflowered persons who are responsible. I implied that neither good character nor bad character is peculiar to virgins or non-virgins. As there are non-virgins with good characters, there are virgins with good characters. As there virgins with bad characters, there are deflowered persons with bad characters. There is no society without virgins. There is no society without non-virgins. There is no society in which all the virgins have bad characters. There is no society in which all the deflowered persons have good characters. So, why do people sound as if virgins with characters do not exist?
good you had made yourself clearer ..but your emphasis was my target of reaction to your post

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Re: Virginity Vs Character by IDERAWOLE(m): 8:37pm On Nov 01, 2020
Akinbahm:


In all honesty bro at the emboldened which one will you go for the former or the latter?

This may not go nice with others but the choice who to marry is not about those factors, rather it is whom God says I should marry based on whether she's born again or not.

Anyone who is born again is a new creature, he/she no longer carries the old nature, but a new one. When you're a new creature your past is your past.

Mind you, I'm not talking about those who just go to mark register in church in the name of a Christian! I'm talking of those with encounters with Jesus.

When you've met Jesus, you'll understand.

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