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Janosky:
Achorladey:
He wasn't TEACHING them anything

Bros ,no dey DECEIVE yourself.


1 Timothy 4:15-16, the DOING & the teaching na Siamese twins, inseparable.

Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.

Why should TIMOTHY pay attention to HIS OWN TEACHING according to Paul since what he DOES is what he TEACHES and are INSEPARABLE?

Why will Paul add FOR BY DOING since what TIMOTHY TEACHES is inseparable from what HE DOES



So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach........ separable/inseparable

How are they SIAMESE TWINS?


Acts 1:1 The first account, O The·ophʹi·lus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach.......... separable/inseparable


Peter taught/teach GOD is IMPARTIAL Acts 10:34,35

what was PETER doing later since DO and TEACH are SIAMESE TWINS?


Here it is again Peter had taught GOD is IMPARTIAL


Because he PETER can't TEACH GENTILES to follow Jewish customs since THEY gentiles KNOW GOD is IMPARTIAL as taught by PETER himself (Acts 10:34,35) he Peter HAD to force hypocritically led his fellow JEWS into observing Jewish customs and by extension want to force the GENTILES to do the SAME

Janosky:
John 8:51, Jesus said, Rutherford copied.

Most truly I say to you, if anyone observes my word, he will never see death at all.” 52 The Jews said to him: “Now we do know that you have a demon. Abraham died, also the prophets, but you say, ‘If anyone observes my word, he will never taste death at all.’ 53 You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died, are you? The prophets also died. Who do you claim to be?”


Here is the reference scripture in front of HE WILL NEVER SEE DEATH AT all as captured in your NWT......

John 5: 24 Most truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes the One who sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life

Janosky you like to talk sey I be FRAUD wetin you be?

Achorladey ask again what did John 11:25 state?

You still never answer my QUESTION Oga Janosky

The last line of that image you NEVER talk am

I have answered all your question

What was Rutherford saying as captured in the LAST TWO line in that image?

Where is RUTHERFORD and the millions now living in the CITY he delivered those talks NOW?


Added QUESTION.......is Rutherford words and TALKS 1920 to 1925 about observing Jesus' words

To the highlighted, i'll say "thank you and may Jehovah reward you for saying that prayer on my behalf" and as for the prayer I'll say "Amen in Jesus name, i (Max) will continue witnessing until my time is up"

Blabbermouth:
Guy, we are cool.
You subtly said a tad bit difference in position concerning the ressurected is not considerable enough to come between you and Haddey.

You can will continue witnessing till your time is up.

livingchrist:
going by your logic all the dead will get a body like Jesus body? Right? Even your fraudulent organisation disagreed with you.
Argue with your GB.

you have never heard of context in your life.


1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The dead rose up before living believers will be changed.
Dead Sinners do not rise up before belivers are changed, their portion is in the great white throne judgment.

who mentioned the rich man? The fact remains that worm will eat the bodies of sinners.

The publication you quote said Those going to heaven will have a spirit body like Jesus . And those on Earth a physical body, completely sound. ( Perfect)

So they got a perfect physical body , like Jesus since you claim Jesus have a physical body.

I stand on the point that Mark 9:43,44 was not a reference to ressurection body. But the Dead bodies in Gehenna.

I demand again: which body does the rich man have in hell since ressurection hasn't occur ?

achorladey:
Most truly I say to you, if anyone observes my word, he will never see death at all.” 52 The Jews said to him: “Now we do know that you have a demon. Abraham died, also the prophets, but you say, ‘If anyone observes my word, he will never taste death at all.’ 53 You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died, are you? The prophets also died. Who do you claim to be?”


Here is the reference scripture in front of HE WILL NEVER SEE DEATH AT all as captured in your NWT......

John 5: 24 Most truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes the One who sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life

Janosky you like to talk sey I be FRAUD wetin you be?

Achorladey ask again what did John 11:25 state?

You still never answer my QUESTION Oga Janosky

The last line of that image you NEVER talk am

I have answered all your question

What was Rutherford saying as captured in the LAST TWO line in that image?

Where is RUTHERFORD and the millions now living in the CITY he delivered those talks NOW?


Added QUESTION.......is Rutherford words and TALKS 1920 to 1925 about observing Jesus' words

You know the caption was lifted from the Bible.

Rutherford's speech means so much to you, Bros na your own wahala be that.

achorladey:
Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.

Why should TIMOTHY pay attention to HIS OWN TEACHING according to Paul since what he DOES is what he TEACHES and are INSEPARABLE?

Why will Paul add FOR BY DOING since what TIMOTHY TEACHES is inseparable from what HE DOES



So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach........ separable/inseparable

How are they SIAMESE TWINS?


Acts 1:1 The first account, O The·ophʹi·lus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach.......... separable/inseparable


Peter taught/teach GOD is IMPARTIAL Acts 10:34,35

what was PETER doing later since DO and TEACH are SIAMESE TWINS?


Here it is again Peter had taught GOD is IMPARTIAL


Because he PETER can't TEACH GENTILES to follow Jewish customs since THEY gentiles KNOW GOD is IMPARTIAL as taught by PETER himself (Acts 10:34,35) he Peter HAD to force hypocritically led his fellow JEWS into observing Jewish customs and by extension want to force the GENTILES to do the SAME

You dey quote Acts 1:1 wey you no sandastan
What did Jesus Christ do that he didn't teach about ?

Whether you like am or not , Paul has spoken, 1Timothy 4:15-16.
Doing the teaching maketh the believers in God's household of faith.

James 1:22
But don’t just listen to God’s word. You must do what it says. Otherwise, you are only fooling yourselves.

I've told critics and apostates the key to the brains of all those standing firm with JW group, "just present a better performing group than JW organization and i'm telling you guys that in the next 48 hours nobody will remain in that group, because we will start calling ourselves to leave and join the one and only group worshipping Jehovah"
Apart from that, nothing as in NOTHING can shake the minds of integrity keepers.
We are Jehovah's Witnesses and it's JW for life!

Jozzy4:
The publication you quote said Those going to heaven will have a spirit body like Jesus . And those on Earth a physical body, completely sound. ( Perfect)

you said all the dead will posses a body like Jesus right? while your organisation said you are a liar, you lot are confused bunch. So much for unity of thought.
No unbelivers do not rise with a perfect body

Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Fraud janosky and his fraudulent organisation.

Sinners are not raised in honor or glory but in everlasting contempt.
1 cor 15 is not about the resurrection of sinners.
The order of resurrection is clearly stated in the bible which is Christ first, the church and the saints before unbelievers.

1 Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The dead are christians that have died after that Christian's that are alive, every Christian is going to posses same body.

So they got a perfect physical body , like Jesus since you claim Jesus have a physical body.

so jwo is wrong! There is nothing like Spirit body. Jesus body was a spiritual one not a Spirit body.

stand on the point that Mark 9:43,44 was not a reference to ressurection body. But the Dead bodies in Gehenna.

I demand again: which body does the rich man have in hell since ressurection hasn't occur ?

yes it is a reference to the resurrection body, Jesus said it is better to live as a maim person than to enter into Gehenna meaning it is still futuristic not this present life.
When will humans be thrown into ghenna, is it not after the judgment?

livingchrist:
you said all the dead will posses a body like Jesus right? while your organisation said you are a liar, you lot are confused bunch. So much for unity of thought.
No unbelivers do not rise with a perfect body

Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Fraud janosky and his fraudulent organisation.

Sinners are not raised in honor or glory but in everlasting contempt.
1 cor 15 is not about the resurrection of sinners.
The order of resurrection is clearly stated in the bible which is Christ first, the church and the saints before unbelievers.

1 Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The dead are christians that have died after that Christian's that are alive, every Christian is going to posses same body.

so jwo is wrong! There is nothing like Spirit body. Jesus body was a spiritual one not a Spirit body.

John 3:6 says what is born of spirit is SPIRIT.

Christian's born of Spirit will become Spirit beings too. So that publication is correct. And yes the body of those Christian's is like that of Christ.

Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly.


Since the believers going to heaven are Spirit beings. Jesus is also a Spirit . So that publication is very much correct.

yes it is a reference to the resurrection body,

It's not, that's why I need you to tell this thread which body does the rich man have since ressurection hasn't occur ?

Jesus said it is better to live as a maim person than to enter into Gehenna meaning it is still futuristic not this present life.
When will humans be thrown into ghenna, is it not after the judgment?

Gehenna is a place in Jesus day . Study what happen there to have some sense.

Another hole, Are you aware It's dead bodies that are thrown into Gehenna not live ones ?

Jozzy4:
He now admit natural means physical. But insisted Paul is wrong , Jesus was raised with the same Natural/physical body . Comedy lol

Serious comedy , longest time.

livingchrist:
you said all the dead will posses a body like Jesus right? while your organisation said you are a liar, you lot are confused bunch. So much for unity of thought.
No unbelivers do not rise with a perfect body

Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Fraud janosky and his fraudulent organisation.

Sinners are not raised in honor or glory but in everlasting contempt.
1 cor 15 is not about the resurrection of sinners.
The order of resurrection is clearly stated in the bible which is Christ first, the church and the saints before unbelievers.

1 Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The dead are christians that have died after that Christian's that are alive, every Christian is going to posses same body.





so jwo is wrong! There is nothing like Spirit body. Jesus body was a spiritual one not a Spirit body.

yes it is a reference to the resurrection body, Jesus said it is better to live as a maim person than to enter into Gehenna meaning it is still futuristic not this present life.
When will humans be thrown into ghenna, is it not after the judgment?

Listen to Jozzy4 and stop peddling lies. A person who has died is Free from their sins. (Rom 6:7) So the idea of they won't have a sound perfect body is totally from your pocket. They are ressurected on the basis of Jesus Ransom

The bone of contention now is if Jesus had a physical body, then it means they also share with Jesus in the same kinda physical body. Theirs is even better since it doesn't retain wounds, scars
, Is what you are telling us.

But thankfully, Jesus Have a Spirit body. Like those Christian's going to heaven, who share in the likeness of his ressurection.

That publication already enlighten you

Jozzy4:
John 3:6 says what is born of spirit is SPIRIT.

Christian's born of Spirit will become Spirit beings too. So that publication is correct. And yes the body of those Christian's is like that of Christ.

Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly.


Since the believers going to heaven are Spirit beings. Jesus is also a Spirit . So that publication is very much correct.



It's not, that's why I need you to tell this thread which body does the rich man have since ressurection hasn't occur ?


Gehenna is a place in Jesus day . Study what happen there to have some sense.

Another hole, Are you aware It's dead bodies that are thrown into Gehenna not live ones ?

Correct.

Janosky:
You know the caption was lifted from the Bible.

Rutherford's speech means so much to you, Bros na your own wahala be that.

Since you know it's LIFTED from the BIBLE tell me the meaning of the last line in that IMAGE which conveys RUTHERFORD mindset

Rutherford's speech means so much to you Bros na your own wahala be that

Comeback and tell me that ALL are FALSE MISREPRESENTATION of your publications

In the final analysis you didn't answer my QUESTION while I answered yours.

Comeback and tell me it's DECEPTIVE representation

Janosky:
You dey quote Acts 1:1 wey you no sandastan
What did Jesus Christ do that he didn't teach about ?

Whether you like am or not , Paul has spoken, 1Timothy 4:15-16.
Doing the teaching maketh the believers in God's household of faith.

James 1:22
But don’t just listen to God’s word. You must do what it says. Otherwise, you are only fooling yourselves.

wey you no sandastan

Only try select one separable or inseparable you cannot.

The same verse you say I don't understand has a CONNECTOR or CONJUNCTION in the person of Mr AND

Acts 1:1 The first account, O The·ophʹi·lus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach.

I know you like calling me WAYO, FRAUD, wetin you be Oga Janosky?


What did Jesus Christ do that he didn't teach about

It should be, What did Peter DO that he didn't TEACH in relation to Galatians 2 you cited and quoted

as usual you are getting lost within your OWN very discussion. No be today e start.

Janosky: Whether you like am or not , Paul has spoken, 1Timothy 4:15-16.

Achorladey: This tell me you read my response and analysis well enough to make decide not to attempt the QUESTION related to the same SCRIPTURE you cited


Doing the teaching maketh the believers in God's household of faith

Me I forget ni

But don’t just listen to God’s word.



Otherwise, you are only fooling yourselves

Mr SIAMESE TWINS and INSEPARABLE

MaxInDHouse:
I've told critics and apostates the key to the brains of all those standing firm with JW group, "just present a better performing group than JW organization and i'm telling you guys that in the next 48 hours nobody will remain in that group, because we will start calling ourselves to leave and join the one and only group worshipping Jehovah"
Apart from that, nothing as in NOTHING can shake the minds of integrity keepers.
We are Jehovah's Witnesses and it's JW for life!

is this another letter to the APOSTATES

at least we know that KEY too na SAKAMAJE like every other key you use since the same JWs leave the better performing group because they don't subscribe to that ONE LINE OF THOUGHT that JWs are a better performing group

Jozzy4:
John 3:6 says what is born of spirit is SPIRIT.

Christian's born of Spirit will become Spirit beings too. So that publication is correct. And yes the body of those Christian's is like that of Christ.

Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly.


Since the believers going to heaven are Spirit beings. Jesus is also a Spirit . So that publication is very much correct.

every christian is born of the spirit.
There are no categories of Christians who go to heaven and those who dont go.

It's not, that's why I need you to tell this thread which body does the rich man have since ressurection hasn't occur ?


Gehenna is a place in Jesus day . Study what happen there to have some sense.

Another hole, Are you aware It's dead bodies that are thrown into Gehenna not live ones ?

Answer my question first what happened to Jesus body?
Jesus was never referring to the ghenna of his day, Jesus was referring to the resurrection.

Why will Jesus say it is better to be maimed than to go into ghenna?
A maimed man suffer throughout his life but does a dead body suffer too, so why is it better to live as a maimed than for a dead body to be thrown into ghenna?

Barristter07:

Listen to Jozzy4 and stop peddling lies. A person who has died is Free from their sins. (Rom 6:7) So the idea of they won't have a sound perfect body is totally from your pocket. They are ressurected on the basis of Jesus Ransom

see who is back from hiding after your lies were exposed.
You have resumed with your lies once more.
@ stroked there is nothing like that in the bible infact the bible is clear that the dead will appear before God to give account of their works.

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.


Your organisation is deceiving you into damnation.

The bone of contention now is if Jesus had a physical body, then it means they also share with Jesus in the same kinda physical body. Theirs is even better since it doesn't retain wounds, scars
, Is what you are telling us.

But thankfully, Jesus Have a Spirit body. Like those Christian's going to heaven, who share in the likeness of his ressurection.

That publication already enlighten you

your lie lie publication says some will resurrect with physical bodies while others will not, kizzy said everyone will get a spirit body like Jesus.
see confusion Las Las You agreed Jesus has physical body? You are just like a chaff tossed about by breeze.

MaxInDHouse:
I've told critics and apostates the key to the brains of all those standing firm with JW group, "just present a better performing group than JW organization and i'm telling you guys that in the next 48 hours nobody will remain in that group, because we will start calling ourselves to leave and join the one and only group worshipping Jehovah"
Apart from that, nothing as in NOTHING can shake the minds of integrity keepers.
We are Jehovah's Witnesses and it's JW for life!

achorladey:
is this another letter to the APOSTATES

at least we know that KEY too na SAKAMAJE like every other key you use since the same JWs leave the better performing group because they don't subscribe to that ONE LINE OF THOUGHT that JWs are a better performing group

mad max keep's saying again and again that they all
have one line of thought, but he of course keeps
lying again and again

false jw org say oralsex even between married
couples is: "perverted" "obscene" and "pornia"

false jw org also said:
"Some have contended, however, that absolutely anything
done between husband and wife is permissible. However,
that view is not supported in the Bible, a covetous
desire for sexual excitement is not approved by God"
Watchtower 1969 12/15 pp.765-766

however trivina said she gives max hand jobs and blow
jobs whenever she wants to
and max said that anything done between a married
couple behing closed doors is "holy"

so false jw org say some things, and mad max say's
other things contrary, and supported by other false
jw's: haddeylium, Jozzy4, and Janosky

false jw's = false everything

https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/oral-anal-sex.php

livingchrist:
see who is back from hiding after your lies were exposed.
You have resumed with your lies once more.
@ stroked there is nothing like that in the bible infact the bible is clear that the dead will appear before God to give account of their works.
Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Your organisation is deceiving you into damnation.
your lie lie publication says some will resurrect with physical bodies while others will not, kizzy said everyone will get a spirit body like Jesus.
see confusion Las Las You agreed Jesus has physical body? You are just like a chaff tossed about by breeze.

Don't you reason at all? Listen, according to Revelation 20:4-6, those who are to rule with Jesus Christ share in the first resurrection and in verse 6, are said to be the only ones which “the second death has no authority” over. We can now cast our minds back to what Paul stated at 1Corinthians 15:42-44&51-53, which states that those dead in union with Christ will be resurrected to incorruptible and immortal spirit life in heaven. A body that is immortal cannot be harmed by death anymore which is why Revelation 20:6 agrees with this notion.
....
....
....

Now amongst those resurrected to human life on earth according to Revelation 20:12 you quoted, there will still be those who will prove rebellious and stubborn after the 1,000year rule of Christ and such ones, since their names aren't in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire, which means the second death.(vs 15)
Evidently showing that those resurrected on the earth won't be immortal spirit beings but that these ones can actually be harmed by the second death, despite being resurrected to humans(physical beings) on earth.

johnw47:
mad max keep's saying again and again that they all
have one line of thought, but he of course keeps
lying again and again

false jw org say oralsex even between married
couples is: "perverted" "obscene" and "pornia"

false jw org also said:
"Some have contended, however, that absolutely anything
done between husband and wife is permissible. However,
that view is not supported in the Bible, a covetous
desire for sexual excitement is not approved by God"
Watchtower 1969 12/15 pp.765-766

however trivina said she gives max hand jobs and blow
jobs whenever she wants to
and max said that anything done between a married
couple behing closed doors is "holy"

so false jw org say some things, and mad max say's
other things contrary, and supported by other false
jw's: haddeylium, Jozzy4, and Janosky

false jw's = false everything

https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/oral-anal-sex.php

these people and their organisation are a definition of confusion and fraud.

one line of thought indeed, they keep contradicting themselves.

DappaD:
Don't you reason at all? Listen, according to Revelation 20:4-6, those who are to rule with Jesus Christ share in the first resurrection and in verse 6, are said to be the only ones which “the second death has no authority” over. We can now cast our minds back to what Paul stated at 1Corinthians 15:42-44&51-53, which states that those dead in union with Christ will be resurrected to incorruptible and immortal spirit life in heaven. A body that is immortal cannot be harmed by death anymore which is why Revelation 20:6 agrees with this notion.
....
....
....

Now amongst those resurrected to human life on earth according to Revelation 20:12 you quoted, there will still be those who will prove rebellious and stubborn after the 1,000year rule of Christ and such ones, since their names aren't in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire, which means the second death.(vs 15)
Evidently showing that those resurrected on the earth won't be immortal spirit beings but that these ones can actually be harmed by the second death, despite being resurrected to humans(physical beings) on earth.

what is this? Am not surprised at this level of daftness due to watch tower mind control and indoctrination

livingchrist:
what is this? Am not surprised at this level of daftness due to watch tower mind control and indoctrination

Leave this your ‘mind control’ and ‘indoctrination’ hullabaloo alone for now.
I don’t tolerate ad hominem attacks. Stay focused.
Revelation 20:4-6 and 20:12,15 clearly shows two different types of resurrection. You can either deal with it or you can continue living in denial.

livingchrist:
see who is back from hiding after your lies were exposed.
You have resumed with your lies once more.
@ stroked there is nothing like that in the bible infact the bible is clear that the dead will appear before God to give account of their works.

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.


Your organisation is deceiving you into damnation.

Romans 6:7

" For he that is dead is freed from sin."

King James 2000 Bible.

Since death is the wages for sin. This kill your idea of them ressurecting with Bad body. They ain't regarded as sinners anymore at ressurection.

your lie lie publication says some will resurrect with physical bodies while others will not, kizzy said everyone will get a spirit body like Jesus.
see confusion Las Las You agreed Jesus has physical body? You are just like a chaff tossed about by breeze.

Did I agree ... U probably have comprehension issues

livingchrist:
every christian is born of the spirit.
There are no categories of Christians who go to heaven and those who dont go.

Answer my question first what happened to Jesus body?
Jesus was never referring to the ghenna of his day, Jesus was referring to the resurrection.

Why will Jesus say it is better to be maimed than to go into ghenna?
A maimed man suffer throughout his life but does a dead body suffer too, so why is it better to live as a maimed than for a dead body to be thrown into ghenna?

And what is born of Spirit is Spirit , Proving those going to heaven are to become Spirit persons LIKE GOD. (John 3:6, 4:24)

Don't forget they must have the same body with Jesus . So can Jesus be physical when the heavenly ones are Spirit ?


" Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust, and like the one from heaven, so too those who are heavenly. "

This shows that you don't even know what you want!
Your argument from the very first time i knew you is against the one and only group worshipping God, yet you failed to realize that none of those thirsty and hungry to get such will never stop in their search until they find it {Luke 15:8-10 } and at the same time all those not interested will never see it as a necessity, think of Pontius Pilate, after hearing Jesus' utterance about the TRUTH he asked "what is truth" {John 18:38} as a Politician his interest here is all about a young Jewish guy who supposed to have a bright future but here is being sentenced to death by his own people!
He felt there could be a way to get Jesus out of trouble not knowing that nothing could make Jesus not to die that very day!
So even if persons like you are born by someone who feels the need of one group worshipping God, you will certainly find your way out since you don't feel something of that nature exists!
That's the secret, so if you guys truly want to reach out to dedicated JWs, the only key to reach our medulla oblongata is the presentation of a better performing group sikena!

achorladey:
is this another letter to the APOSTATES

at least we know that KEY too na SAKAMAJE like every other key you use since the same JWs leave the better performing group because they don't subscribe to that ONE LINE OF THOUGHT that JWs are a better performing group

Now look at the highlighted very well and think for once. The organization is progressing and each time they think of a better way to address issues. Where is the Bible quote to back up what you quoted from the 1969 Magazine?
Surely an inquisitive Bible student may find it difficult to accept such since there is no scripture to back it up!
So the Watchtower won't continue with such an assertion for the sake of not becoming masters over the faith of fellow worshipers {2Corinthians 1:24} because each person is standing based on what he understands not just what they're being fed! Galatians 6:5
That's what you guys failed to grasp about us!

johnw47:
mad max keep's saying again and again that they all
have one line of thought, but he of course keeps
lying again and again
false jw org say oralsex even between married
couples is: "perverted" "obscene" and "pornia"
false jw org also said:
"Some have contended, however, that absolutely anything
done between husband and wife is permissible. However,
that view is not supported in the Bible, a covetous
desire for sexual excitement is not approved by God"
Watchtower 1969 12/15 pp.765-766
however trivina said she gives max hand jobs and blow
jobs whenever she wants to
and max said that anything done between a married
couple behing closed doors is "holy"
so false jw org say some things, and mad max say's
other things contrary, and supported by other false
jw's: haddeylium, Jozzy4, and Janosky
false jw's = false everything
https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/oral-anal-sex.php

MaxInDHouse:
Now look at the highlighted very well and think for once. The organization is progressing and each time they think of a better way to address issues. Where is the Bible quote to back up what you quoted from the 1969 Magazine?
Surely an inquisitive Bible student may find it difficult to accept such since there is no scripture to back it up!
So the Watchtower won't continue with such an assertion for the sake of not becoming masters over the faith of fellow worshipers {2Corinthians 1:24} because each person is standing based on what he understands not just what they're being fed! Galatians 6:5
That's what you guys failed to grasp about us!

false jw mad max

false jw org said via watchtower:

"Some have contended, however, that absolutely anything
done between husband and wife is permissible. However,
that view is not supported in the Bible, a covetous
desire for sexual excitement is not approved by God"

and you mad max don't believe false jw org, wanting scripture, laughing
i don't blame you for not believing them

your excuses excuses excuses = your lies lies lies

on your matter of sexual perversion false jw org has said:
1. they define oralsex as fornication
2. they say you false jw's are not to participate in oralsex, even if married
and both parties consent
3. they say oralsex which you and trivina indulge in is "perverted", "obscene" and "pornia"
4. they say the view that: "anything being done between husband and wife is permissible"
is not suported in the bible, and is not approved by God
you false jw mad max go even further and say: "anything done between husband and wife(trivina mentioned hand jobs and blow jobs) is "holy""

now you are trying to make out that false jw org don't hold to those beliefs anymore

so post the false jw articles showing that, oh cannot stop lying and deceiving false jw mad max

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


false jw org have a line of thought on these perverse matters
and you mad max have a different line of thought on them
and some false jw's agree with you, and others would agree with false jw org

but there is no other better performing group than yours, ha ha ha

DappaD:
Leave this your ‘mind control’ and ‘indoctrination’ hullabaloo alone for now.
I don’t tolerate ad hominem attacks. Stay focused.
Revelation 20:4-6 and 20:12,15 clearly shows two different types of resurrection. You can either deal with it or you can continue living in denial.

lie lie, Yes there are two types of resurrection, the first resurrection is for those who were killed for Christ and didnt receive the mark of the beast, the rest dead did not live until the thousand years are over

Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Those who partake of the first resurrection will not partake by the second dead.

No sinner will be raised in the first resurrection until the thousand years are over, that means till after christ reign on earth is over.

Barristter07:
Romans 6:7

" For he that is dead is freed from sin."

King James 2000 Bible.

Since death is the wages for sin. This kill your idea of them ressurecting with Bad body. They ain't regarded as sinners anymore at ressurection.



Did I agree ... U probably have comprehension issues

Fraudulent barrister, Romans 6vv7 is talking of serving/living in sin. Roman's does not say they are free from their sin but they are free from sin.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7.For he that is dead is freed from sin.

If they are no longer sinners are come they will be resurrected and judged for their works?

1 Peter 4:5
Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Fraudulent barrister, Those Christians that will bear physical bodies whose image did they bear since Christ has spirit body according to you?

Happy combat in advance

livingchrist:
Fraudulent barrister, Romans 6vv7 is talking of serving/living in sin. Roman's does not say they are free from their sin but they are free from sin.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7.For he that is dead is freed from sin.

If they are no longer sinners are come they will be resurrected and judged for their works?

Freed from sin simple and clear, remind me again: what's the wages for sin? They have paid it when they died. So they are no longer sinners when they are ressurected. Jesus Ransom in action. This cancel out your stinking body theory. They got a perfect body like everyone else on Earth.

1 Peter 4:5
Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

This judgement is not based on what they did before they die. But what they did within the 1000 years of Jesus reign.

Their sins before they died are cancelled. They paid the wages already

Fraudulent barrister, Those Christians that will bear physical bodies whose image did they bear since Christ has spirit body according to you?

Fraudster, let me remind you
They are raised Spiritual body. Which is SPIRIT body ..

John 3:6 what is born of Spirit is SPIRIT .

Those going to heaven are not Physical bodies.

Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly . They will have Jesus kinda Spirit body.

Let that John 3:6 sink inside you.

Barristter07:
And what is born of Spirit is Spirit , Proving those going to heaven are to become Spirit persons LIKE GOD. (John 3:6, 4:24)

Don't forget they must have the same body with Jesus . So can Jesus be physical when the heavenly ones are Spirit ?


" Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust, and like the one from heaven, so too those who are heavenly. "

fraudulent barrister, If they the dead can be called sinners, why did paul call some of the dead that will be raised, unjust?

Acts 24:15
And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.



Jesus said except a man is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter into God's kingdom.
You are indirectly saying some Christians will be on God's kingdom while others wont be.
The others that are not born by the spirit, where will they be since they wont enter into God's kingdom.

livingchrist:
fraudulent barrister, If they the dead can be called sinners, why did paul call some of the dead that will be raised, unjust?

Acts 24:15
And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.



Jesus said except a man is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter into God's kingdom.
You are indirectly saying some Christians will be on God's kingdom while others wont be.
The others that are not born by the spirit, where will they be since they wont enter into God's kingdom.

Firstly: Do you agree those going to heaven will become Spirit beings as highlighted in John 3:6 ?