Missyajoke:
No one knows

jesusjnr2020:
Were you one of those who believed he was the last trump spoken of in the Bible?

Missyajoke:


No am not one of those mentioned.

kingxsamz:
Lol, even if Donald Trump wins this election, another president will be elected after him, and another and another, and another. And when over 9 presidents have been elected, end time crooners would have started a whole new conspiracy story about the world ending.

Plead:


Have all the results been counted? Nevada and the rest four states.

Chosen1984:
I Have a Personal Conviction that He Could be the Last Trump. I could be Wrong tho!

Before 2015, I really didn't know Trump apart from knowing His name as one of the Big boys in the World!

While the Whole 2015 Election stuff was Going on, I Personally didn't believe he will win due to all the polls and all that!
But I remember, the Night of the Election , I was Sitting by my Dad and watching it on Tv, and Suddenly something came out from my mouth!

I Said to my Dad! " I Don't really know how, but I see Trump being announced as the winner just For God to Make the Earth Understand that it's HIM that appoints who He will, after that the Rapture will Happen"

Those were my words unknowingly said!

My Dad laughed because it was virtually impossible! lol and Behold we got up the Next Morning to See Trump as the Winner! My Dad could not believe it! I myself could not!

I came to understand that those words were not from me per say! They were highly Spiritual words!

All these while I had not seen any Connection to Trump and the last Trump!

Late Last year or Early this year, I am not sure which, I was having my Personal time with GOD, reading the Bible and all that. When I got to 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 , I was just reading and when I Read "at the Last Trump" ! My Brother, I got Shocks and Chills in me ! You Now how you get a signal from God when something drops!

I had to go back to it! The Last Trump! The Last Trump! I called my wife and said baby! See what I am seeing today!

That's not my First time of Reading! Infact I have Read the Bible 2-3 times every year in the few years! But that was the First time I got that Revelation on that!

About a Month later or thereabout! I have a lot of Brethren Worldwide who we Talk on things of God together on YouTube and all that!

A Certain brother in the USA Just said the same thing! He was like are you Sure Trump is not the Last Trump?
I was like wow! This is a Confirmation of what I got..

I Have other Revelation and visions about Him..
Like before all that troubles were been Manufactured! I saw Him in Revelation where he was to cross a wide ocean! There were many Creatures in the water! All of a Sudden , He jumped into the ocean and Swam out safely!
And gave me a deep Huge!

I told all around me that he will not be impeached! He would come out of all the traps!
And that's Exactly what Happened!

As for the Last Trump! I Personally Believe he is the sign of the Last Trump!

Let's keep watching!

What is Neccessary is that we are washed in the Blood and Ready at all times..

jesusjnr2020:
Something that baffles me up til very moment is where some Christians possibly got that idea from?

Was it just about the name or a divine revelation?

Because i thought the last Trump in the Bible referred to an instrument that would sound on the last day, but then i started hearing people refer to Donald Trump as the last Trump.

So how did they arrive at such an idea because this is what the Bible says about the last trump:

1 Corinthians 15:52 (KJV)

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV)

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

So from the passages it's very clear that the trump spoken about wasn't a human being but an heavenly instrument that would sound on the last day.

Hence I ask those who believed that Donald Trump was the last trump spoken of in the Bible, to explain how the last trump which is a heavenly instrument became a human being.

Thanks and God bless.

Chosen1984:

The Problem with you and those like is that you use the Physical to interpret the Spirtual!!

GOD ALMIGHTY, our Father in Heaven is a Spirit! Those that worship and Serve need to do it in Spirt and in Truth!

You Could pick up a passage in the Bible today and read and get an insight ! You could pick up the same passage some other day and get total new inspiration and Insight! That's because it's the Word of God. You Cannot Box the Word of GOD.

If you read my words with understanding and insight , you won't say what you said because I didn't say the Bible said Trump is the Last Trump! That was a an insight I A Personally got !

My Insight may not be it! My insight may be it!
That's For us to see...

GOD gives Signs and Insights everyday!
If you Have Followed my Summation, you would different sides but one Foundation which is JESUS..

If you had seen what By the Grace of God I put out on the American being the Great Babylon in the book of Revelation , you would see slight differences but one Foundation...

Atimes most of the things I put out is not really from me! I put them out as I am inspired to do..

One thing I know from my little walk with GOD which I have said for a very long time is President Trump Presidency is a kind of Mercy Period For the USA and the World at Large..

If Trump is not re-elected and the Church is still here on Earth, then the World would have a some feel of GOD'S Wrath!

I Believe the Rapture is so Close! I Believe that so much!

What is Most Important is not speaking Grammar saying Context this and Context that!

Your Context and all that could be Wrong!

Prayerfully read the Word and ask God for Understanding..

The Bible is Powerful! Much more than what we know!

Goshen360:


Young man, the Bible does not mean today what it does not mean when it was first written. All this your insight this and insight that will keep distorting the text and its original meaning

Chosen1984:
I Have a Personal Conviction that He Could be the Last Trump. I could be Wrong tho!

Before 2015, I really didn't know Trump apart from knowing His name as one of the Big boys in the World!

While the Whole 2015 Election stuff was Going on, I Personally didn't believe he will win due to all the polls and all that!
But I remember, the Night of the Election , I was Sitting by my Dad and watching it on Tv, and Suddenly something came out from my mouth!

I Said to my Dad! " I Don't really know how, but I see Trump being announced as the winner just For God to Make the Earth Understand that it's HIM that appoints who He will, after that the Rapture will Happen"

Those were my words unknowingly said!

My Dad laughed because it was virtually impossible! lol and Behold we got up the Next Morning to See Trump as the Winner! My Dad could not believe it! I myself could not!

I came to understand that those words were not from me per say! They were highly Spiritual words!

All these while I had not seen any Connection to Trump and the last Trump!

Late Last year or Early this year, I am not sure which, I was having my Personal time with GOD, reading the Bible and all that. When I got to 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 , I was just reading and when I Read "at the Last Trump" ! My Brother, I got Shocks and Chills in me ! You Now how you get a signal from God when something drops!

I had to go back to it! The Last Trump! The Last Trump! I called my wife and said baby! See what I am seeing today!

That's not my First time of Reading! Infact I have Read the Bible 2-3 times every year in the few years! But that was the First time I got that Revelation on that!

About a Month later or thereabout! I have a lot of Brethren Worldwide who we Talk on things of God together on YouTube and all that!

A Certain brother in the USA Just said the same thing! He was like are you Sure Trump is not the Last Trump?
I was like wow! This is a Confirmation of what I got..

I Have other Revelation and visions about Him..
Like before all that troubles were been Manufactured! I saw Him in Revelation where he was to cross a wide ocean! There were many Creatures in the water! All of a Sudden , He jumped into the ocean and Swam out safely!
And gave me a deep Huge!

I told all around me that he will not be impeached! He would come out of all the traps!
And that's Exactly what Happened!

As for the Last Trump! I Personally Believe he is the sign of the Last Trump!

Let's keep watching!

What is Neccessary is that we are washed in the Blood and Ready at all times..

Chosen1984:


You are Neither here nor there!
You seem Confused !
Suit yourself !
I don't have that time.

jesusjnr2020:
Well time would tell who's right or not.

Though i also believe Donald Trump may have or has played a role concerning the end time, i believe the last trump is the last sound the heavenly trumpet would make on the last day as was clearly depicted in the revelations of Paul.

I think that it just it's just the name Trump that is giving people such an idea.

But as you said, the most important thing is to ensure that we lose our guards at any time.

Thanks and God bless.

Goshen360:


This is exactly my argument with him.....why would the name Trump just give people such idea INSTEAD OF A GOOD BIBLE TEACHER OR STUDENT TO DIG THROUGH THE TEXT and see what the author communicates.

Our idea should drop when we approach the Bible to learn the word of God

MuttleyLaff:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12643787_forbiden_jpegfffefa2a04d048fe63fdbcba9dc36bce
Why can't Trump return to the White House anymore?
It is because its For Biden (i.e. forbidden)
It's as simple as that

Chosen1984:
The Problem with you and those like you, is that you use the Physical to interpret the Spirtual!!
GOD ALMIGHTY, our Father in Heaven is a Spirit! Those that worship and Serve need to do it in Spirt and in Truth!
You Could pick up a passage in the Bible today and read and get an insight ! You could pick up the same passage some other day and get total new inspiration and Insight! That's because it's the Word of God. You Cannot Box the Word of GOD.

If you read my words with understanding and insight , you won't say what you said because I didn't say the Bible said Trump is the Last Trump! That was a an insight I A Personally got !

My Insight may not be it! My insight may be it!
That's For us to see...

GOD gives Signs and Insights everyday!
If you Have Followed my Summation, you would different sides but one Foundation which is JESUS..

If you had seen what By the Grace of God I put out on the American being the Great Babylon in the book of Revelation , you would see slight differences but one Foundation...

Atimes most of the things I put out is not really from me! I put them out as I am inspired to do..

One thing I know from my little walk with GOD which I have said for a very long time is President Trump Presidency is a kind of Mercy Period For the USA and the World at Large..

If Trump is not re-elected and the Church is still here on Earth, then the World would have a some feel of GOD'S Wrath!

I Believe the Rapture is so Close! I Believe that so much!

What is Most Important is not speaking Grammar saying Context this and Context that!

Your Context and all that could be Wrong!

Prayerfully read the Word and ask God for Understanding..

The Bible is Powerful! Much more than what we know!

Goshen360:
Young man, the Bible does not mean today what it does not mean when it was first written. All this your insight this and insight that will keep distorting the text and its original meaning

Chosen1984:
You are Neither here nor there!
You seem Confused !
Suit yourself !
I don't have that time.

Goshen360:
I was once like you brother spiritualizing the text. Bible text are not meant to b spiritualized but interpretation contextually and the end result of that interpretation is SPIRITUAL.

If you can't understand this ABC of Bible interpretation then I don't know what else to tell you. It can not mean anything else other than what the author intended it to mean.

MuttleyLaff:






I have on both the brethren Goshen360 and Chosen1984 posts featured on this thread, put like stamps based on their merit, correctness and funniness, so its not like as if I can be accused of taking anyone's side here, lmso.

Now what I like both you do do because you both seemed to want to wear out the word "spiritual/spiritualized/spiritualizing" , is to explain in a manner that a 8 year old would understand what does the word "spiritual/spiritualized/spiritualizing" means.

Thank you in advance for breaking "spiritual/spiritualized/spiritualizing" down and putting the "spiritual/spiritualized/spiritualizing" milk in baby bottle(s), lmso

Goshen360:
Let me give a clear example of spiritualizing a text AS INTERPRETATION instead of interpretation which the end result is SPIRITUAL.

When I was growing in a church I got born again, there's this big so called respected and anointed man of God he preached from Isaiah 6 v 1

In the year that king Uzziah died, I saw the Lord....

He "spiritualized" Uzziah in his interpretation to mean an enemy that is king over your life, meaning in order for you to see the Lord manifest in your life, your king Uzziah must die, etc

We grew up and swallowed such teaching because we didn't know better. That's what I mean "spiritualizing" the text.

On the the other hand, interpretation of text as it is with the intent of the author that the end result of it is spiritual is an example like this

You must be born again....

So when we understand what he explained to be born again, the interpretation doesn't mean 2 things it means just one thing and the result of the interpretation is SPIRITUAL without us "spiritualizing" the text.

Goshen360:
I hope my point is clear

Chosen1984:
I Have a Personal Conviction that He Could be the Last Trump. I could be Wrong tho!

Before 2015, I really didn't know Trump apart from knowing His name as one of the Big boys in the World!

While the Whole 2015 Election stuff was Going on, I Personally didn't believe he will win due to all the polls and all that!
But I remember, the Night of the Election , I was Sitting by my Dad and watching it on Tv, and Suddenly something came out from my mouth!

I Said to my Dad! " I Don't really know how, but I see Trump being announced as the winner just For God to Make the Earth Understand that it's HIM that appoints who He will, after that the Rapture will Happen"

Those were my words unknowingly said!

My Dad laughed because it was virtually impossible! lol and Behold we got up the Next Morning to See Trump as the Winner! My Dad could not believe it! I myself could not!

I came to understand that those words were not from me per say! They were highly Spiritual words!

All these while I had not seen any Connection to Trump and the last Trump!

Late Last year or Early this year, I am not sure which, I was having my Personal time with GOD, reading the Bible and all that. When I got to 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 , I was just reading and when I Read "at the Last Trump" ! My Brother, I got Shocks and Chills in me ! You Now how you get a signal from God when something drops!

I had to go back to it! The Last Trump! The Last Trump! I called my wife and said baby! See what I am seeing today!

That's not my First time of Reading! Infact I have Read the Bible 2-3 times every year in the few years! But that was the First time I got that Revelation on that!

About a Month later or thereabout! I have a lot of Brethren Worldwide who we Talk on things of God together on YouTube and all that!

A Certain brother in the USA Just said the same thing! He was like are you Sure Trump is not the Last Trump?
I was like wow! This is a Confirmation of what I got..

I Have other Revelation and visions about Him..
Like before all that troubles were been Manufactured! I saw Him in Revelation where he was to cross a wide ocean! There were many Creatures in the water! All of a Sudden , He jumped into the ocean and Swam out safely!
And gave me a deep Huge!

I told all around me that he will not be impeached! He would come out of all the traps!
And that's Exactly what Happened!

As for the Last Trump! I Personally Believe he is the sign of the Last Trump!

Let's keep watching!

What is Neccessary is that we are washed in the Blood and Ready at all times..

Chosen1984:

The Problem with you and those like is that you use the Physical to interpret the Spirtual!!

GOD ALMIGHTY, our Father in Heaven is a Spirit! Those that worship and Serve need to do it in Spirt and in Truth!

You Could pick up a passage in the Bible today and read and get an insight ! You could pick up the same passage some other day and get total new inspiration and Insight!

Chosen1984:
That's because it's the Word of God. You Cannot Box the Word of GOD.

jesusjnr2020:
Well time would tell who's right or not.

Though i also believe Donald Trump may have or has played a role concerning the end time, i believe the last trump is the last sound the heavenly trumpet would make on the last day as was clearly depicted in the revelations of Paul.

I think that it just it's just the name Trump that is giving people such an idea.

But as you said, the most important thing is to ensure that we lose our guards at any time.

Thanks and God bless.

Kobojunkiee:
Then what you have read is not the truth but a lie each time.

Truth, yes, the Truth of God has only one meaning and one meaning alone. Every other meaning besides the one authentic meaning is a lie. So when you read a passage today, tomorrow, and even 10 years from that day, it must always have one meaning and one meaning alone, or else your "interpretations" are nothing but lies, and chances are you never even knew the truth of what was written to begin with.

Yes, if you don't know the lies from the truth of what is written, then it is next to sure that you never had the truth, to begin with, and you will probably never know it until you throw out everything you once believed the passage meant, to start anew, only with the mind of a child, as Jesus Christ Himself commanded.
Man does not have the power to box the word of God. Instead what man has the ability to do, and lots of it too, is to lie, pretending he does so in the name of God. Man is a liar, and he deceives others like him with those lying tongues, but not God. God is the source of truth and no lie comes from God.

God does not need to "hide" His truth from man. He wants man to know and have His truth. He even simplified it for mankind when He sent His own Son Jesus Christ to tell mankind exactly what He wants man to do in just 46 commandments. Through Jesus Christ, He portrayed all that He desires for man to do in His name. Jesus Christ, the truth of God, never spoke words that had a double meaning to even the Pharisees, or His disciples. He did not come to lie or deceive mankind in any way.
Through Jesus Christ, God gave mankind direct truth (truth sourced directly through the mouth of God to each and every one of us) and commands... but what has man shown himself capable of doing yet again? Turn God's words upside down so he can instead do what he wants to do, as opposed to what God in fact commands of Him.

Chosen1984:

This Brother has always sounded Confused since I have known him here...
Either he is off point or above point,

Chosen1984:
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The Problem with you and those like is that you use the Physical to interpret the Spirtual!!
GOD ALMIGHTY, our Father in Heaven is a Spirit! Those that worship and Serve need to do it in Spirt and in Truth!

collinsfhk:
Religion cannot give you this, the church you attend cannot give you this, your “daddy and mummy” cannot give you this. The only thing that can give you this is serving God in truth (according to the dictates of His word) and in Spirit (by the indwelling and leading of the Holy Spirit - Rom. 8:14).