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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:41pm On Nov 12, 2020
ladyteeks:
He said we need about 8500 blocks for both buildings and iron bender, Carpenter will work too



A generous me won’t do more than below:

Bricklayer - 500k
Iron Bender - 150k
Carpenter - 150k
Supervision - 200k

If you’re in need of someone who can do it for less, I can send you a team that’ll do a quality job for less. Your guy will supervise their work

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ladyteeks: 8:44pm On Nov 12, 2020
Are you choicegroup? I am sorry I think thats the only quote I saw

QSFemi:
Isn't this the same building you post here some times ago when the project was still at the foundation and you were asking about the labour cost for block setting to the lintel level? If it was, I answered your question the other day.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sam1919: 8:45pm On Nov 12, 2020
Thank you boss
QSFemi:
4 in 1 truck is used in local parlance in Benin to denote 30 tons.

It's 180k for granite and it's 30 tons.


Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sam1919: 8:45pm On Nov 12, 2020
Thank you boss
Chekitaut:
Be precise, is price determine factor.
10tons @₦75k
15tons @₦100k
30tons @₦190k
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ladyteeks: 8:50pm On Nov 12, 2020
Engineer said I need 6000 blocks and 170 cement for main building: 2500 blocks and 55 cement for BQ


ChoiceGroup:
Good afternoon.

Based on your drawings, here's the cost for Mansory (block setting) up to lintel level as requested.

Main Building
1) Blocks (9-inch) = 2,731 blocks
2) 50kg bag of cement = 61 bags
3) Workmanship for block setting = 190,000

BQ
1) Blocks (9-inch) = 914 blocks
2) Blocks (6-inch) = 262 blocks
3) 50kg bag of cement = 26 bags
4) Workmanship = 81,625

You can make provision for 1 trip of 20 tonnes of sand for this stage.

I hope you find this helpful.


Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 8:56pm On Nov 12, 2020
I checked where I did the calculations again, the total blocks you need to the lintel level for the main building ground floor is 2731 blocks for 9-inch block while you need 914 blocks (9-inch) for the BQ and also 262 blocks (6-inch), also for the BQ.

In summary, the total blocks needed for the ground floor is 3907 blocks to the lintel level.


ladyteeks:
He said we need about 8500 blocks for both buildings and iron bender, Capenter will work too


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kunlef1: 8:58pm On Nov 12, 2020
Are these pipes still available?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ladyteeks: 9:02pm On Nov 12, 2020
Does the ground level include the two bedroom flat as well? I am confused where he got his numbers from. Please note that there are two units in the BQ and the main building is a 4 bedroom Duplex plus two units of two bedroom flat.

Pls send me your whatsapp number

QSFemi:
I checked where I did the calculations again, the total blocks you need to the lintel level for the main building ground floor is 2731 blocks for 9-inch block while you need 914 blocks (9-inch) for the BQ and also 262 blocks (6-inch), also for the BQ.

In summary, the total blocks needed for the ground floor is 3907 blocks to the lintel level.


Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:06pm On Nov 12, 2020
Yeah. I saw the attached drawings - the main building and BQ.



ladyteeks:
Does the ground level include the two bedroom flat as well? I am confused where he got his numbers from. Please note that there are two units in the BQ and the main building is a 4 bedroom Duplex plus two units of two bedroom flat

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ladyteeks: 9:15pm On Nov 12, 2020
Please send me your whatsapp number

QSFemi:
Yeah. I saw the attached drawings - the main building and BQ.



Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:17pm On Nov 12, 2020
Please send me a text message on 09012800750 and I'll reply with my whatsapp number.

ladyteeks:

Please send me your whatsapp number

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ladyteeks: 9:19pm On Nov 12, 2020
Sent you a text...


QSFemi:
Please send me a text message on 09012800750 and I'll reply with my whatsapp number.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:28pm On Nov 12, 2020
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ladyteeks:
Sent you a text... foreign number


Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 9:55pm On Nov 12, 2020
Fire that "engineer" before you become his palliative!

ladyteeks:
He said 70 per block (8500 blocks) that 595k
Remaining balance is for iron bender and Capenter


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:04pm On Nov 12, 2020
kunlef1:
Are these pipes still available?


Yes
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:16pm On Nov 12, 2020
ladyteeks:
Sent you a text...



I think you should consult QSFemi to have a better understanding of the process. His take so far is nearer to the true cost outlay.

Now mind you, don't get confused by it all. In your initial query, you said your engineer invoiced you 1.1m for labour to LINTEL LEVEL only for block setting. Then in another breath you said the project is about 8,400 blocks.

Now I observed you and others here are multiplying N70 by 8,400 to get a cost outlay. This is wrong as 8,400 is for the WHOLE project not to lintel level. Or is the 8400 blocks to lintel level?

Furthermore, to lintel level, you DO NOT need a carpenter or iron bender if the initial invoice of one million is for setting blocks only.

You need carpenter and iron bender when you want to cast your columns and beams AFTER block setting. So stay alert. Don't mix it all up.

So sit down with QSFemi to break it all down for you and come back here if you think you are still being bamboozled.

Break it down:
#Labour cost for block setting to lintel level.

#How many blocks to lintel level.

#Labour cost of casting the columns, beams and lintel. (at this point you will need carpenter and iron bender).

#Esterblish from QSFemi the number of columns (pillars) there is. The number of pillars will determine the casting cost just as the number of blocks determines the block setting cost.

It is possible someone is trying to befuddle the whole process to confuse you. And with property, once the homeowner is confused, there is only one outcome.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 11:51pm On Nov 12, 2020
Good evening everyone,, I hope you're all well. Attached is the progress made on the job oga Valencia2012 contracted me to do for him.

First picture is the concept

Subsequent photos are what I was able to do. I'm open to criticism and suggestions on how to improve


Kindly note that when on the ground, the pipes look out of position but when elevated, you see them line up as they should. I was able to raise it thanks much but the true position is far higher

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 12:00am On Nov 13, 2020
I'm currently handling the issue now.


diordaves:


I think you should consult QSFemi to have a better understanding of the process. His take so far is nearer to the true cost outlay.

Now mind you, don't get confused by it all. In your initial query, you said your engineer invoiced you 1.1m for labour to LINTEL LEVEL only for block setting. Then in another breath you said the project is about 8,400 blocks.

Now I observed you and others here are multiplying N70 by 8,400 to get a cost outlay. This is wrong as 8,400 is for the WHOLE project not to lintel level. Or is the 8400 blocks to lintel level?

Furthermore, to lintel level, you DO NOT need a carpenter or iron bender if the initial invoice of one million is for setting blocks only.

You need carpenter and iron bender when you want to cast your columns and beams AFTER block setting. So stay alert. Don't mix it all up.

So sit down with QSFemi to break it all down for you and come back here if you think you are still being bamboozled.

Break it down:
#Labour cost for block setting to lintel level.

#How many blocks to lintel level.

#Labour cost of casting the columns, beams and lintel. (at this point you will need carpenter and iron bender).

#Esterblish from QSFemi the number of columns (pillars) there is. The number of pillars will determine the casting cost just as the number of blocks determines the block setting cost.

It is possible someone is trying to befuddle the whole process to confuse you. And with property, once the homeowner is confused, there is only one outcome.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 12:22am On Nov 13, 2020
ThatHistoryGuy:
[sub][/sub]
Perhaps you lack good sense of beauty

Perhaps....
Perhaps you wont be hawking them aggressively here grin grin,
just perhaps. undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 12:28am On Nov 13, 2020
Abolarin91:
I see darkness all through!
Perhaps I didn't have sense of beauty too grin


No be only you Bro, perhaps my sense of beauty will come back, when l start hawking Black Tiles aggressively. shocked grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 12:31am On Nov 13, 2020
QSFemi:
I've gone through her posts.

She has brought this issue here some days ago and I advised her on the cost of labour for the block setting. I even calculated the number of blocks that she needed back then. I don't think anything has changed on this particular issue since then.


Thank you Sir, your often selfless efforts on this thread is not unnoticed, Karma is a "b!atch", forgive my pun, it was intended. undecided
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 12:36am On Nov 13, 2020
true2home:
I have used it in many instances and loved it...



Thanks for your comment Sir, "beauty they say, is in the eyes of the beholder".
Perhaps, l am just not in love with it.
My problem.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 12:39am On Nov 13, 2020
Chekitaut:
0812 986 6372

Please dont just give out phone numbers, mention the @username so we know who you are recommending.
We must be our brother's keeper, on this thread.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 12:46am On Nov 13, 2020
ladyteeks:
He said we need about 8500 blocks for both buildings and iron bender, Capenter will work too



Do your own estimation, on the number of Blocks, from your Achy Drawings. assign a cost of say #55/Block and multiply, to give you an idea fo what you should be paying, averagely
But if you really want to have peace of mind as per materials costing and price and you are not the "amebo, DIY types" like me, ask for the professional help of a QS.
Short of that, you just have to take the bold step of trusting your Engineer. Some are not smiling o. undecided grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 12:59am On Nov 13, 2020
ladyteeks:
I did
He said 70 per block (for 8500 blocks), then he has to pay iron bender, carpenter and casting..totaling 1.130


Blocks might have been over-estimated! Cant you estimate the number required, by yourself?

You should not pay more than #60/per Block, never and for the fact that the number is large, in the thousands, you should negotiate and not pay more than #50, max #55.
Again, how much you pay an iron bender or Carpenter, will depend on the number of Pillars and Lintels you will be doing.
What you can do is to negotiate separately with your own, sourced Iron Bender and Carpenter.

Its going to be a tough one, if you dont have the knowledge, wont do the trench/brain work (no offense) and wont consult with a QS.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ladyteeks: 2:13am On Nov 13, 2020
Thanks so.much. QS femi and I are in touch now.
I confirmed again from the engineer and he said the 8500 blocks is to lintel level ONLY, not the entire project.

diordaves:


I think you should consult QSFemi to have a better understanding of the process. His take so far is nearer to the true cost outlay.

Now mind you, don't get confused by it all. In your initial query, you said your engineer invoiced you 1.1m for labour to LINTEL LEVEL only for block setting. Then in another breath you said the project is about 8,400 blocks.

Now I observed you and others here are multiplying N70 by 8,400 to get a cost outlay. This is wrong as 8,400 is for the WHOLE project not to lintel level. Or is the 8400 blocks to lintel level?

Furthermore, to lintel level, you DO NOT need a carpenter or iron bender if the initial invoice of one million is for setting blocks only.

You need carpenter and iron bender when you want to cast your columns and beams AFTER block setting. So stay alert. Don't mix it all up.

So sit down with QSFemi to break it all down for you and come back here if you think you are still being bamboozled.

Break it down:
#Labour cost for block setting to lintel level.

#How many blocks to lintel level.

#Labour cost of casting the columns, beams and lintel. (at this point you will need carpenter and iron bender).

#Esterblish from QSFemi the number of columns (pillars) there is. The number of pillars will determine the casting cost just as the number of blocks determines the block setting cost.

It is possible someone is trying to befuddle the whole process to confuse you. And with property, once the homeowner is confused, there is only one outcome.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ladyteeks: 2:17am On Nov 13, 2020
Thanks so much for your help.
I am not an expert in building. Everything I have learnt is from nairaland.

I belive the blocks needed was overestimated, but QS femi and I are working together on it.

One4me:


Blocks might have been over-estimated! Cant you estimate the number required, by yourself?

You should not pay more than #60/per Block, never and for the fact that the number is large, in the thousands, you should negotiate and not pay more than #50, max #55.
Again, how much you pay an iron bender or Carpenter, will depend on the number of Pillars and Lintels you will be doing.
What you can do is to negotiate separately with your own, sourced Iron Bender and Carpenter.

Its going to be a tough one, if you dont have the knowledge, wont do the trench/brain work (no offense) and wont consult with a QS.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ladyteeks: 2:19am On Nov 13, 2020
I am really grateful to everyone who has helped me on this thread. May God bless you and your household.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 2:30am On Nov 13, 2020
QSFemi:
I checked where I did the calculations again, the total blocks you need to the lintel level for the main building ground floor is 2731 blocks for 9-inch block while you need 914 blocks (9-inch) for the BQ and also 262 blocks (6-inch), also for the BQ.

In summary, the total blocks needed for the ground floor is 3907 blocks to the lintel level.



Just seeing this!
God bless you double-portion, for the above
I dont think she needs anything more than this.
I repeat, God is watching you (and other Service Providers who do selfless service to those of us who seek help, help that would have cost us large sums of money elsewhere), and you will reap the good you are doing, even to random people on this thread.
Though I am yet to benefit sha grin but l am good all the same.
I cant thank people like you enough, for giving out freely, what you could have made money from, even your occupation and source of living?
It is okay for a random Joe Blocks like me to offer suggestions, opinions and even knowledge acquired over time, it is not my source of living that l am giving out and l am not depriving myself of income, when l do that but for people like you that do that, l pray God will continue to bless you and increase you in ways that are beyond human comprehension.
Truly, it is not what we eat, that we have to sell.

I digress, let me not become emergency Pastor. undecided grin

@ladyteeks: What else do you need?
Negotiate separately with each person (Welder = #90,000. Carpenter = #60,000 and that is an extremely generous amount, because there is no DPC or Decking involved) that will work for you.

Fire that your Engineer/Builder, it is obvious he would rip you off without bathing an eyelid.
From 4000 Blocks, to 8,500 blocks! A difference of 4,500 Blocksshocked shocked
That alone will more than double whatever you are supposed to pay him for labour only, at #70 x 4500 extra blocks = #315,000
That is how much QSFemi has just saved you, that is how much that your man would have ripped-off from you, just in blocks-setting alone.
Not to mention the rip-off from contracting Welder and Carpenter, not to mention excess Cement or blocks, if he is the one buying it.

Wish others were this lucky. undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 2:37am On Nov 13, 2020
ladyteeks:
Thanks so much for your help.
I am not an expert in building. Everything I have learnt is from nairaland.

I belive the blocks needed was overestimated, but QS femi and I are working together on it.


I am just happy for you, l know its a bigger challenge when a lady is building though l expect that service providers will be less aggressive on them, with pricing.
Consider engaging QSFem for a fee, to supervise what you are doing, if you will, l believe you will get the long term benefit and l hope he also can oblige. Your project seems sizable and complete carcass is just about 40% + or - 5% of your total cost, so l wont like any cut-throat Service Provider to take you to the cleaners.


Caveat: the above is just my opinion, dont know him, never met him but l have been impressed by his conduct and service to many members here. Perhaps l am just feeling funky and a little drunk today, who knows. shocked shocked grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 2:50am On Nov 13, 2020
michlins:
Good evening everyone,, I hope you're all well. Attached is the progress made on the job oga Valencia2012 contracted me to do for him.

First picture is the concept

Subsequent photos are what I was able to do. I'm open to criticism and suggestions on how to improve


Kindly note that when on the ground, the pipes look out of position but when elevated, you see them line up as they should. I was able to raise it thanks much but the true position is far higher

Well done Bro, you are flying already.

I will suggest:
1) you have to use an "Angle Ruler" to ensure that the angles between the location l marked as "B" in the picture, are exactly 90-degrees and the short irons are perpendicular to the rectangular shape they are welded to, to get a true 90-degrees.
2) the short pipes are either the same size/width as the ones used to get those rectangular shapes. to really bring out the beauty for the design.

Just my 2cents, but you are really 'the man'.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:41am On Nov 13, 2020
ladyteeks:
I am really grateful to everyone who has helped me on this thread. May God bless you and your household.

Wishing you good luck on your project.

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