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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 1:33pm On Nov 14, 2020
Focusmind:


Opportunities abound but fear of risk and uncertainty is holding people down. Take a global perspective, a lot of investors sees Nigeria as a good place to invest but fear of unknown makes the final investment decision impossible or delayed

A finance company in London, where a friend works did an investment survey and found the Nigerian market buoyant, but fear of uncertainty and country risk were too high that they jettisoned the idea.

To tell you how far foreign investors takes risk seriously, they follow citizens discussions about the country on their own social media. They followed Nigeria and Nigerians to get perspectives and views about the people and the country. Some are even registered on Nairaland.

Well said, the problem with investing in Nigeria is uncertainty. Although this comes with the territory but Nigeria's level of uncertainty is times 1000x.

Think of building a house, even if you secure a loan to put up a project, dollar will move from N350 to N351 and 1 bag of cement will jump from N2,000 to N2,900. Even our mothers selling pumpkin leaves , pepper and tomatoes will jack up the prices by 100%.

The level of price inflation in Nigeria is beyond economics. You can't plan for nothing, price increase here and there...

Also, you hire someone for a job, they start work and then in the middle stops to renegotiate their contract, then skips town.. you have to chase them around to come and complete the job sometimes involve police, kinsmen etc. And remember if you took out a loan for the project, while you were chasing the person around, materials are adding money, your interest is piling up and you might end up hiring another person to finish the job, project will end up over budget and the loan would finish before the project is completed because of numerous uncertainties.

Doing a project in Nigeria is just like open up your wallet and spend until it is completed.. don't even stop to think economics, economics of scale, all those things you learnt on economics 101 doesn't work in Nigerian setting. I am yet to do a housing project in 9ja where I purchased cement and rod the same price from start of the project to finish .


I once had an idea together with some partners to start up a waste management style of company. Waste management is big company in the U.S and possibly multinational.

Got funding to start up, partners all lined up every thing all straightened out but the government authorities from state to the councilor, everyone wants to be settled, one even want in on the profit angry like a decent size cut, I thought he meant he wants to buy in as a partner but even as a local man like myself that grew up in 9ja, I was dumbfounded when he said, that’s his share. O boy, I was very furious which kind talk be that?? Are you normal?
Whenever I am in Nigeria, all I am seeing is money money opportunities opportunities but people are focused on "oyel" oil oil.

Waste management is multi billion dollar corporation in the U.S.

The uncertainty is just too much. The housing projects I am involved in, I just close eye to do it, the rate prices increases is just ridiculous!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 1:50pm On Nov 14, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Larry1960: 2:14pm On Nov 14, 2020
Chekitaut:
Me i dislike hotel with passion, but hmmm to much money @ Ajegunle Annax/Extension Festac, hotel is money spinning biz. Event center good but 3 floors no no no, 2 floor depending on size of Land, weekly money, if ok by him you good to go.


Bros how much would you supply these materials to me @ Reedeem camp shiwarma Estate
20 ton granite
20 ton Sharp sand
20ton laterite filling sand
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 2:41pm On Nov 14, 2020
Chekitaut:
30tons Granite ₦235k from Abeokuta while ₦210k from Ijebu
Sharp is ₦55k
Iron rod Local-Local @₦260k
HiTec & TMT @₦295k
Tiger @₦310k
Cement same as ₦3500

Thank you and God bless.
My kobo kobo project is been handle by my sister and the husband who is a supplier. Thanks to this site and the professionals here I am educated and get help in cutting down on price quotations. Unlike in the beginning of the project where I was been told the price of things which I later discover to be way higher than stated, now I just quote the price I got from here and told them that if there supplier can't meet the price I will call my own guy to deliver at this price. I will then add extra money for effort. In this particular instance here I added 30k .
Just in case some people are wondering, I am not just taking I patronize people here as well. I got my architect from here and have done about#300,000 business with him. I hope to patronize others in the future

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by flekky07(f): 2:50pm On Nov 14, 2020
Dijita:


Thank you and God bless.
My kobo kobo project is been handle by my sister and the husband who is a supplier. Thanks to this site and the professionals here I am educated and get help in cutting down on price quotations. Unlike in the beginning of the project where I was been told the price of things which I later discover to be way higher than stated, now I just quote the price I got from here and told them that if there supplier can't meet the price I will call my own guy to deliver at this price. I will then add extra money for effort. In this particular instance here I added 30k .
Just in case some people are wondering, I am not just taking I patronize people here as well. I got my architect from here and have done about#300,000 business with him. I hope to patronize others in the future
This is seriously serious, as One4me always say "Dog eat Dog" God help us...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 3:28pm On Nov 14, 2020
Larry1960:



Bros how much would you supply these materials to me @ Reedeem camp shiwarma Estate
20 ton granite
20 ton Sharp sand
20ton laterite filling sand
Granite @₦140k
SharpSand & Laterite not available for now.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akanimoh113(m): 3:29pm On Nov 14, 2020
Hi... My name is Victor. Am in need of Financial support, I need money. I need it to plan ahead for my future, Although I have plans. They say in order to make money, you need money to make money.
I need N50,000, I know is much but I believe there is someone out there that could favor me.
I have a working and practical strategy for recovering this amount as well as a payment plan.
Finding someone who is in a best position to help me, Should not only able to help me with the money I need but Should also be willing to help me.
I don't want to be mincing my words To be honest, the amount I need is N50,000, and I would be really grateful and would Appreciate very much for your help.
The Very First thing I would buy is a Smartphone. With a Smartphone I can Earn a living. Thank You
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 3:31pm On Nov 14, 2020
Badgers14:


Well said, the problem with investing in Nigeria is uncertainty. Although this comes with the territory but Nigeria's level of uncertainty is times 1000x.

Think of building a house, even if you secure a loan to put up a project, dollar will move from N350 to N351 and 1 bag of cement will jump from N2,000 to N2,900. Even our mothers selling pumpkin leaves , pepper and tomatoes will jack up the prices by 100%.

The level of price inflation in Nigeria is beyond economics. You can't plan for nothing, price increase here and there...

The uncertainty is just too much. The housing projects I am involved in, I just close eye to do it, the rate prices increases is just ridiculous!

I have been doing simulation on the best business model for my wife's intended business since paid employment isn't forth coming. Guess what? None yielded profit considering all issues that may arise. We are going online. Online model seems to be the only one that yielded small possible margins.

Her two friends that did the same business have all packed up even though she is insisting on having a physical presence. Luckily, I used the sad cases of her two friends to convince her to adopt the model I proposed.

Nigeria's business environment is hostile and could be unforgiven to start-ups.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kingzsoul: 4:27pm On Nov 14, 2020
n3xt:


I’m sorry I didn’t revert as promised again.

Marine board investment is a huge one right now. DO NOT cut your boards until you’ve considered it’s immediate and future usage.

I have boards in different sizes:

12in framed boards - Lintels, Columns
16in framed boards - Beams (400mm beam), Columns (wider than 12in)




24in framed boards - Beams (450mm Beam), 2 board rafts, drainage, cantilevered sections
48in full boards - Slabs, 4 board rafts, special uses.

9in supported boards - Lintels

I don’t cut my boards into any other sizes other than the above.

Can we use the boards for raft foundation and whats the cost?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by horlorbah(m): 4:28pm On Nov 14, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:32pm On Nov 14, 2020
horlorbah:
Good day house, please I want to ask some questions. I'm about to embark on a building project but I'm working on a tight budget due to the availability of fund.

I'm considering a twin 2 bedroom flat. The person I'm thinking of putting in charge said I need around 1.2million (which sounds outrageous to me) for the foundation alone which will include DPC although the land is stoney.

Please can someone give me a breakdown of the expected costs, just for the foundation alone. Thank you.

Post your floor plan here.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 5:00pm On Nov 14, 2020
michlins:
Good evening everyone,, I hope you're all well. Attached is the progress made on the job oga Valencia2012 contracted me to do for him.

First picture is the concept

Subsequent photos are what I was able to do. I'm open to criticism and suggestions on how to improve


Kindly note that when on the ground, the pipes look out of position but when elevated, you see them line up as they should. I was able to raise it thanks much but the true position is far higher

Hello brother.
The rails are coming out nice.

How much on average is the meter length of these iron rails?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by horlorbah(m): 5:04pm On Nov 14, 2020
segzy14:


Post your floor plan here.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 5:05pm On Nov 14, 2020
My people,
How is life.
Please see attached information from electrician on 4 bedroom wires.

I am on track with him especially on workmanship.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by valencia2012(m): 5:20pm On Nov 14, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


I’m in Elebu, Ibadan.

It’s odd but I haven’t actually thought about the price embarassed

Guv'nor, remember to inform me immediately you make your mind up.
Regards.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:26pm On Nov 14, 2020
Hello house , there's a crack on the wall which is causing me corncerns.

Is this crack suggesting structural issues?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 5:34pm On Nov 14, 2020
The attached quote was given for my Windows.. please assist to review if the list isn't excess?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 5:42pm On Nov 14, 2020
Badgers14:


Well said, the problem with investing in Nigeria is uncertainty. Although this comes with the territory but Nigeria's level of uncertainty is times 1000x.

Think of building a house, even if you secure a loan to put up a project, dollar will move from N350 to N351 and 1 bag of cement will jump from N2,000 to N2,900. Even our mothers selling pumpkin leaves , pepper and tomatoes will jack up the prices by 100%.

The level of price inflation in Nigeria is beyond economics. You can't plan for nothing, price increase here and there...

Also, you hire someone for a job, they start work and then in the middle stops to renegotiate their contract, then skips town.. you have to chase them around to come and complete the job sometimes involve police, kinsmen etc. And remember if you took out a loan for the project, while you were chasing the person around, materials are adding money, your interest is piling up and you might end up hiring another person to finish the job, project will end up over budget and the loan would finish before the project is completed because of numerous uncertainties.

Doing a project in Nigeria is just like open up your wallet and spend until it is completed.. don't even stop to think economics, economics of scale, all those things you learnt on economics 101 doesn't work in Nigerian setting. I am yet to do a housing project in 9ja where I purchased cement and rod the same price from start of the project to finish .


I once had an idea together with some partners to start up a waste management style of company. Waste management is big company in the U.S and possibly multinational.

Got funding to start up, partners all lined up every thing all straightened out but the government authorities from state to the councilor, everyone wants to be settled, one even want in on the profit angry like a decent size cut, I thought he meant he wants to buy in as a partner but even as a local man like myself that grew up in 9ja, I was dumbfounded when he said, that’s his share. O boy, I was very furious which kind talk be that?? Are you normal?
Whenever I am in Nigeria, all I am seeing is money money opportunities opportunities but people are focused on "oyel" oil oil.

Waste management is multi billion dollar corporation in the U.S.

The uncertainty is just too much. The housing projects I am involved in, I just close eye to do it, the rate prices increases is just ridiculous!
God will help us is not easy here
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by micgray100(m): 5:51pm On Nov 14, 2020
jajeri3216:
Hello house , there's a crack on the wall which is causing me corncerns.

Is this crack suggesting a structural issues?
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this is serious... firstly, check if the corner side is made of just blocks or pillar ...
if pillar, it can be amended easily... if is block... that is differential settlement...
Engage the service of an experience bricklayer... he will have to chisle out the crack and pour lean concrete to fill to brim...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:02pm On Nov 14, 2020
micgray100:
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this is serious... firstly, check if the corner side is made of just blocks or pillar ...
if pillar, it can be amended easily... if is block... that is differential settlement...
Engage the service of an experience bricklayer... he will have to chisle out the crack and pour lean concrete to fill to brim...

That's great. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:27pm On Nov 14, 2020
valencia2012:


Guv'nor, remember to inform me immediately you make your mind up.
Regards.

Sorry I forgot about this.

https://www.nairaland.com/6253248/used-14-feet-solid-metal
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:29pm On Nov 14, 2020
jajeri3216:
Hello house , there's a crack on the wall which is causing me corncerns.

Is this crack suggesting structural issues?

Please post a wider picture.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:04pm On Nov 14, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


Please post a wider picture.

Should i upload the video on YouTube and post it here?

I'm very grateful for your help.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 7:16pm On Nov 14, 2020
jajeri3216:


Should i upload the video on YouTube and post it here?

I'm very grateful for your help.
If there is pillar at the coner, tie lintel is not done, roof beam is also not done. Very unfortunate this happened.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:24pm On Nov 14, 2020
jajeri3216:


Should i upload the video on YouTube and post it here?

I'm very grateful for your help.

It’ll be helpful to the pros but ultimately a site visit will be necessary.

Have no fear, whatever it is can be resolved.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:27pm On Nov 14, 2020
Chekitaut:
If there is pillar at the coner, tie lintel is not done, roof beam is also not done. Very unfortunate this happened.

Does this mean big trouble?

How to rectify?

Thanks for your help
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:51pm On Nov 14, 2020
ceelog:


Hello brother.
The rails are coming out nice.

How much on average is the meter length of these iron rails?
good evening sir and thanks for your enquiry. The cost of the rails per meter is #33,000. Kindly note that everything on it is wrought iron just like he requested.

Attached is the final product. First one is the rails with anti rust paint and the other two are the final product. He chose the color and that didn't allow me to play with it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:56pm On Nov 14, 2020
Good evening everyone. I hope you're all well. I need the help of the house. I need to buy a welding inverter and I don't know a thing about it. The welding machine I have been using is the usual one but because of mobility and need to upgrade myself, I need to buy the inverter.

I need something that will weld between 4mm and 6mm metal. Which inverter is best for me and which generator do you recommend. I'm willing to pay someone to buy it for me in and around Lagos and waybill to me down to Nnewi.

@egunmogaji2 I like that one you uploaded the picture sometime ago

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:01pm On Nov 14, 2020
michlins:
Good evening everyone. I hope you're all well. I need the help of the house. I need to buy a welding inverter and I don't know a thing about it. The welding machine I have been using is the usual one but because of mobility and need to upgrade myself, I need to buy the inverter.

I need something that will weld between 4mm and 6mm metal. Which inverter is best for me and which generator do you recommend. I'm willing to pay someone to buy it for me in and around Lagos and waybill to me down to Nnewi.

@egunmogaji2 I like that one you uploaded the picture sometime ago

I use a MaxMech MMA300. The generators are Thermocool Igwe but drinks like a fish. I also use a SumecFirman SPG4000.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sammylee7: 10:21pm On Nov 14, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 10:38pm On Nov 14, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


I use a MaxMech MMA300. The generators are Thermocool Igwe but drinks like a fish. I also use a SumecFirman 4000.
how durable is the inverter and what's the maximum capacity. I want to use it for outside jobs especially standing tanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:30pm On Nov 14, 2020
michlins:
how durable is the inverter and what's the maximum capacity. I want to use it for outside jobs especially standing tanks

I’m very new to welding. But according to my welder that’s teaching me this will weld almost everything. In fact this is exactly his mobile welder.

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