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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:50am On Nov 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: The better you know that word 'God' is a title for a supreme being the better for you! Satan is called the god of this system of things Is Satan a God of this system of things by nature or the authority he has on them? 'Even though we have so-called gods either in heaven or earth, but to the (true Christains) . we have just one 'true God' named 'Jehovah' with the most superior authority! 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:53am On Nov 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: If Buhari is a president by nature, then all Nigerians would have been President! Of course, it's by the authority he has! Dig? 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:57am On Nov 16, 2020 |
achorladey: Are you acting daft on purpose or that's the real you? Human 'Sons of God' Spirit 'Sons of God' O tun goof 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:36am On Nov 16, 2020 |
Barristter07, the time for unfruitful discussion is over. You can rest in peace. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:46am On Nov 16, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:You can feed me, it doesn't make you a mediator. There is nothing like "mediators to feed the sheep". "You want to see God?No other way, come to me!" That's a mediator. "You want to talk to God? No other way, tell me what you want to say, I will relate to him and Give you feedback" That's a mediator. Christ confirmed himself as mediator between us and God. There was nothing like, if you want to go to Christ, you must pass through PETER. Teachers are not mediators. You can teach me something, 97% right and 3% error. I don't eat all you feed me, I eat all the Lord says I eat as you feed me. No. They weren't worshipping Paul or Apollos! Much more like saying, We are Paulians, the only true Christians. We are Appolians, the Paulians are not as enlightened as we are, we are the real Christians. A kingdom ought not to be divided, for it can not stand well. The division has made the church at large to be easily rediculed and belittled. No Christ Witness or Christianity pioneer pushed for anything like denomination, it wasn't even in mind. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:04pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Barristter07:Honestly, I'm not in the mood or have enough time to continue this. I should provide a single scripture that those born of spirit will be slave of God's nature? I will skip. You didn't even understand the sentence in the first place. Next time, say - Blabbermouth, I'm confused, what do you mean by so so so statement? God is not a man having a spirit? Your confusion has been a stumbling block for you. The Deity is a being in a unique class on his own. A spirit Man, A spirit Deity. All flesh are not the same, all spirit are not the same. Should I pay you back in your coin? You are all over claiming I should give you a word-for-word scripture for a statement, should I request that from you? Tell me where God said He will give them (Who do you refer to as them?) his own divine nature. Then tell me what God meant by Divine nature. I don't want another round of laughing at your errors, so let me chip this; Holiness, is it God's nature? Therefore becoming Deities themselves. Again, all flesh are not the same. All spirit are not the same. Almighty is not what make God special, if it was just some position, don't be too happy, someone might unseat Him one day. When will you learn that Jehovah as a being is in a class of His own? Unscriptural? There is nothing as unscriptural as 72,000,144,000 Gods/Deity/Divinity with just one among them being president. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:48pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:God spoke to Moses while Moses speaks to the Israelites, of course Moses as an imperfect man made mistakes but he remains the mediator of the covenant between God and the Israelites! Exodus 33:11; Numbers 12:8 There is nothing like "mediators to feed the sheep". "You want to see God?No other way, come to me!" That's a mediator. "You want to talk to God? No other way, tell me what you want to say, I will relate to him and Give you feedback" That's a mediator.Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! "I'm the way the truth and the life" doesn't mean you should talk to Jesus in prayer! It simply means "if you want to know how you can approach my father (God), i'll teach you because he's my father and i'm his favourite son" That's the difference between JWs and all other religions. Jehovah's Witnesses don't pray to Jesus, we make our supplications known directly to JEHOVAH. But we must do so following all the guidelines or counseling from Jesus Teachers are not mediators. You can teach me something, 97% right and 3% error. I don't eat all you feed me, I eat all the Lord says I eat as you feed me.Jesus said "whatever you bind or loose on earth will happen just so in heaven" {Matthew 16:19} the Apostles forgot what Jesus taught them saying "you will always have the poor with you" {Mark 14:7} they wanted to make all members equal materially speaking by selling what they had and sharing it equally {Act 4:32-35} that was a wrong step! Jesus didn't step in to correct them not until the congregation lost a couple, that was the end of that arrangement! But take not that it was God's holy spirit that killed Ananiah and Saphirras for lying when they supposed to act in line with what the whole assembly agreed upon. So it's wrong to worship where you are not 100% in compliance with the teachings, it's better find another group! No. They weren't worshipping Paul or Apollos!Of course that's what it means! When you're singling a teacher out as the best or your favorite amongst the rest it's tantamount to worship. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't know where the worshipers of God gathers! Matthew 24:27-28 No Christ Witness or Christianity pioneer pushed for anything like denomination, it wasn't even in mind.Jesus said there will be false teachers {Matthew 24:11} so we must distinguish the true teachers from false otherwise what you're saying is "don't mind Jesus, you can worship anywhere that Jesus' name is mentioned" of course you should know better than that! Matthew 7:21-23 Thanks and God bless you! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:11pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Because you are a Liar, no such Statement exist in scripture.
God is a Spirit not a man . He doesn't have flesh and bones. Don't be stupid. , You are implying that the Father have Flesh or what ? Your case is critical .
2Pet 1:4 is still in your Bible , isn't it ? You saw Divine nature promise there, don't you ?
Sharers of the Divine Nature, He declared them Holy, They will even be immortal, and exist in his Spirit form. That prove Jesus is a Spirit person too, or else the statement like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly will be false . If they don't share the same form . Is this your problem ? Is it not written in your Bible that Ye are God's ? Jehovah said and promise he will share his very own Divine nature with his adopted Spirit sons. But you went ahead and lie on his head saying slave divine nature. If you want to know Jehovah's class , Read Romans 11:35 “Who has ever given to God, that God should repay them?” Nobody gave JEHOVAH anything, but he Gives others as he chooses and there is nothing blabbermouth in all his lies can do about it. That's CLASS. Even Jesus receive from him all he had. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:17pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jozzy4: According to jws Jehovah is an angel. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:19pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Janosky:Nah you talk am say Jehovah and Angels get the same nature. Dondi |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:20pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Janosky:authority and nature are not the same. Nature is what something is, authority is the right to do something. A son can be a president and be greater than his father in authority but both of them has same nature as humans. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:22pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: If you have a working sense, you should as well realize angels, and JEHOVAH has same nature as Spirit. This is the same nature promised those born of spirit . What is born of spirit, is Spirit , not human nature like you are lying about on the thread. I was expecting you to even explain the phrase " is spirit " . But you dissapered, typical 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:22pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jozzy4:bro nah you talk am, Angel and Jehovah get the same nature So Jehovah has seevant's nature? Clown |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:24pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:lie lie, you keep spilling dung all over this thread |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:25pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:I tell you, all of them has suddenly being on the defensive. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:26pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
DappaD:what is nature? Oga If you posses the nature of a lion what does that make you, A clown? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:29pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: Divine nature is whose nature ? Sense is far from you . God in his divine nature is a Spirit being. That's the hope held out for those born of spirit. And that expose Jesus current nature. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:34pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
haddeylium:clown, so God is just a title? So you mean Jehovah is not really a God but only bears that title like others? How come paul said the gods of the heather are by nature no gods? Galatians 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:39pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: It would be unfruitful since you are being exposed for the liar you are . John 3:6 didn't say what is born is spirit is a spiritual man . Stop lying . Neither does the Bible said they will be slave of God's nature. All this are frauds from blabbermouth. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 2:50pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: Bros, prove say you get SENSE , John 11:27, Romans 8:3, Phil 2:8, did your Bible say Jehovah has a servant's nature? (1) Jehovah is a servant to who ? (2) What is the name of the person who gives Jehovah command that Jehovah obeyed? Mr LIENUS |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by rottennaija(m): 2:59pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Please my enlightened Scholar Jozzy4, tell me what were the facts, what were all the facts as seen below in this watchtower publication? Emusan achorladey 3 Likes
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 3:08pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
livingchrist:Likewise, Jesus Christ and angels has the same nature/form of spirits as his God and Father. If you still get SENSE, John 20:17, 1 Cor 15:27. 11:3, is Jesus Christ the President of his God and Father? . Read & the Screenshots and receive SENSE. G3444: form=shape, appearance. Figuratively nature.
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:11pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jehovah witness org teaches that the name 'Jehovah' means he causes to become Now, in another publication they stated that the ability for Jehovah to become anything he want fo do is a reflection of his own nature But again they say ,Angels has same nature with Jehovah, which means Angels are Jehovah. Cc blabbermouth, Emusan, anchorladey, rottennaija 1 Like
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:14pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Barristter07:wait, wait wait I thought you guys said spiritual body means Spirit body? what a fraud! So spiritual does not mean Spirit again? Wayo barrister |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:15pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Janosky:lie lie, no bi unah say Jehovah and Angel get same nature, ode |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 3:17pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
rottennaija: to that publication. The part you coloured na strong thing. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:21pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Present what you have and leave the rest for your listeners to discern {Matthew 10:11-13} that's what JWs do. It's not by force you believe what we teach just know that if you're not one of us certainly we are not worshipping the same God! So worship your own God and fish for interested individuals who will accept your God, that's what Jesus laid down, no wahala! livingchrist: 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 3:26pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Simple question How is it same hope? Answer by the BRIGHT one: Everything you wrote are biblical facts You will still comeback and say the ONE HOPE is the HOPE of everlasting LIFE |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 3:29pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: Your answer is located at Ecclesiastes 3:20-21. Is the lion flesh or not? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:29pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Barristter07:Wayo barrister, according to your organisation God's nature goes beyond just being a spirit. Lie lie barrister, All christian are born of Spirit so who are those not born of Spirit? 1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. John 4:24 [b]God is a Spirit:[/] and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:30pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
DappaD: Yes? so a lion has the nature of a human being right? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 3:33pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
livingchrist: God the Father is a Spiritual man, How does it sound ? If this doesn't help you, nothing else might help 1 Like |
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