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haddeylium:
You might be wrong
The Hebrew word 'Nephesh' in the Bible translated to Soul in English refers to Person and Animals


Darby Bible Translation
Gen 1:20- And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living souls, and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse of the heavens.(compare with Rev 16:3)



Do you notice that Bolden
It didn't say Man was given a Soul but he became a living Soul after the breathe of life was breathe into his nostril.
So, after the 'breathe of life' goes out. He'll become a deal soul/Person.
So with Animals(Eccl 3:19)


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MrPRevailer:
Firstly, every Bible student should know that 90% of translations are subversive of the original. Personally, I maintain that KJV is the most authentic/original version as many Bible scholars concur. Moreover, the bible KJV uses the word "Creatures" in that verse.

False teachers always use "Hebrew" translation in attempt to subvert the scripture or drive their own doctrinal teachings. I never buy that.

Janosky:
Bros, if you love the KJV more than other Translations, that's your personal view.

Hebrew word "Nephesh" means "Soul/life".
Soul is life.
It is in your Bible @ Genesis 1:20,21. 9:4. 2:7 etc
The same meaning it is.
Animals are souls. Man is a soul.
Every creature is a living soul.
That is what your Bible says, which may not fit in with your personal ideology.



Pls don't get it twisted.
Check out bible verses in the Screenshots.

johnw47:
[s]fool and fraud jw janosky

you cannot even understand a dictionary
[/s]
soul = life, when that life is referring to living creatures
soul more specifically = man and animals, dead or alive

when God made adam he made a soul/a man, when God breathed into adam he became a living soul/a living man:

Gen_2:7  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

adam didn't become a living life duh, but a living soul/creature/man


also: Eze_18:20  The soul that sinneth, it shall die.

you may agree oh know nothing, that a dead soul does not = life




MrPRevailer was right, in that verse, living souls = living creatures, and not your confused "living life"
Gen 1:20- And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living souls, and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse of the heavens.




[s]you satan's mob just say anything, so long as it's preferably a lie:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.[/s]

MrPRevailer:



Firstly, every Bible student should know that 90% of translations are subversive of the original. Personally, I maintain that KJV is the most authentic/original version as many Bible scholars concur. Moreover, the bible KJV uses the word "Creatures" in that verse.

False teachers always use "Hebrew" translation in attempt to subvert the scripture or drive their own doctrinal teachings. I never buy that

JohnW Fraud and LIAR.


Mr Prevailer did NOT agree Hebrew Translation "Nephesh meaning "Soul/life" is a " Creature".
My Screenshots confirm that Hebrew Translation Nephesh means "Creature/Soul/Life"


LYING Fraud man JohnW.

Janosky:
JohnW Fraud and LIAR.


1. Mr Prevailer did NOT agree Hebrew Translation "Nephesh meaning "Soul/life" is a " Creature".
2. My Screenshots confirm that Hebrew Translation Nephesh means "Creature/Soul/Life"


LYING Fraud man JohnW.

MrPRevailer:
Firstly, every Bible student should know that 90% of translations are subversive of the original. Personally, I maintain that KJV is the most authentic/original version as many Bible scholars concur. Moreover, the bible KJV uses the word "Creatures" in that verse.

johnw47:
fool and fraud jw janosky

you cannot even understand a dictionary

soul = life, when that life is referring to living creatures
soul more specifically = man and animals, dead or alive

when God made adam he made a soul/a man, when God breathed into adam he became a living soul/a living man:

Gen_2:7  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

adam didn't become a living life duh, but a living soul/creature/man


also: Eze_18:20  The soul that sinneth, it shall die.

you may agree oh know nothing, that a dead soul does not = life




MrPRevailer was right, in that verse, living souls = living creatures, and not your confused "living life"
Gen 1:20- And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living souls, and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse of the heavens.




you satan's mob just say anything, so long as it's preferably a lie:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

johnw47:
[s]janosky fraud and liar

@1, he certainly did

lying fraud man janosky[/s]:



@2, you fraud janosky said soul = life, full stop
now you change and say soul = more than that, as i showed you
[s]oh big liar you, and false accuser like your daddy:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.[/s]

Janosky:
You saw the Biblestudytools Screenshots evidence- "Soul, self, life, Creature, person"

Bros, what is your problem?

Gbana dey your blood.
.

johnw47:
fool and fraud jw janosky

you cannot even understand a dictionary

soul = life, when that life is referring to living creatures
soul more specifically = man and animals, dead or alive

when God made adam he made a soul/a man, when God breathed into adam he became a living soul/a living man:

Gen_2:7  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

adam didn't become a living life duh, but a living soul/creature/man


also: Eze_18:20  The soul that sinneth, it shall die.

you may agree oh know nothing, that a dead soul does not = life




MrPRevailer was right, in that verse, living souls = living creatures, and not your confused "living life"
Gen 1:20- And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living souls, and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse of the heavens.




you satan's mob just say anything, so long as it's preferably a lie:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

johnw47:
fraud jw janosky

mumu you only fooling yourself by changing what you said
after i showed how wrong you are:

Janosky:
Gbana dey your blood

MrPRevailer:
Firstly, every Bible student should know that 90% of translations are subversive of the original.

Personally, I maintain that KJV is the most authentic/original version as many Bible scholars concur. Moreover, the bible KJV uses the word "Creatures" in that verse.

Ofcourse, the common thing among all creatures on the earth is that they die.
Using Ecc 3:19 to prove animals have soul is incoherent.
There are living (heavenly) souls and dead souls(the damned).
Ezekiel 18:4 "Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." Only humans have souls.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

haddeylium:
Most times, many Bible translators express based on their personal conviction.
But, honesthearted people confirm with the Original to make sure.
Check the attached file
The Word Ne'phesh means Soul.
it was translated to Creature in KJV, others use Life, some Soul.
To Show Naphesh= Life, Creature, Animal, Man
If Animals have life, they're a living Soul


Seems you're familiar with KJV, I do use it too

Consider this too in your KJV
Revelation 16:3
And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
Animals are Souls .
Some translator use creature too in that verse.
Human and Animal are Souls.


@bolden- Show ls that Soul is not mortal, it's that person himself.
@italicised- Humans and Animals are Soul,so the same thing will happens to them in death. Nothing survive them


Yeah .
Faithful humans are assured of resurrection hope!

Thanks for your time

DappaD:
I'm actually struggling to understand what MrPRevailer is saying up there. The Genesis 2:7 he has since been quoting disagrees completely with his “Man has a soul” dogma.

MrPRevailer:
There is no disagreement but a lack of simple understanding on your part.

The formed body is the carcase. The breath that God breathed is the spirit of man, the soul.

DappaD:
Please quote Genesis 2:7 from your own Bible.

MrPRevailer:
Your analogy is wrong.

It's like you saying that all mammals are dogs because all dogs are mammals.
All creatures are not souls. All souls are creatures.

"Soul" is not synonymous to "Creature"

Revelation16:3 is not proof that soul referred to animals. Again you are using same analogy.
The fact that both animals and humans died does not mean Soul is referring to both.
The Soul cannot lose consciousness. Eternal Separation from God is called death as in second death) Romans 6:23.
And it's nothing but sin/transgression that result to that type of death. It is sin, not the mere mortal wound of creature. So are you saying animals, insects will go to hellfire?

haddeylium:
I'll only focus on the discuss

Another thing that will help you is comparing different translation together.

New American Standard Bible
The second angel poured out his bowl into the sea, and it became blood like that of a dead man; and every living thing in the sea died.

New King James Version
Then the second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it became blood as of a dead man; and every living creature in the sea died.

King James Bible
And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

Did you see they part?
EVERY living things/ Every living creatures/Everything living Soul.

Thank you

MrPRevailer:
Your analogy is wrong.
It's like you saying that all mammals are dogs because all dogs are mammals.
All creatures are not souls. All souls are creatures.
"Soul" is not synonymous to "Creature"

Revelation16:3 is not proof that soul referred to animals. Again you are using same analogy.
The fact that both animals and humans died does not mean Soul is referring to both.

The Soul cannot lose consciousness. Eternal Separation from God is called death as in second death) Romans 6:23.
And it's nothing but sin/transgression that result to that type of death. It is sin, not the mere mortal wound of creature. So are you saying animals, insects will go to hellfire?

Revelation 20: shows us that all living and dead souls were judged.
20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Every man. It does not say 'every man and animal, or every creature. Didn't much animals die in the sea too?

This is the death the Bible refers to in Ezekiel 18:4 for sin and transgression. So we can see only man has soul.
Also see revelation 21:8

MrPRevailer:
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

MrPRevailer:
Revelation 20:

20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged EVERY MAN according to their works.

DappaD:
Did God breathe the soul or the breath of life into Adam?

MrPRevailer:
Slap yourself hard please.

DappaD:
MrPRevailer I won't say I blame you though. You just need to do more research on your own
That's the way you'll learn.
The way the Bible defines several things is different from those defined by popular opinion.

FatherOfJesus:
There’s nothing like heaven or hell.

Other animals like humans are made of macromolecules which after death will be decomposed by saprophytes and the decompositions will be use as nutrients. If you are unlucky enough not be buried in a proper grave, you cadaver will be will eaten by scavenging animals alongside saprophytic decomposition.
After this, you will have to wait for another 5billion years when our dying sun will eventually engulf the earth as a red giant for all your atoms to be dispersed back into the universe.

Basically, the atoms you are made of right now aren’t your own, a lot of them were gotten from decomposed organism in the past and a lot of them that will be replaced as you live will also be recycled from other dead organic matters.
Where do you think the compounds you get from plants and animals come from?
Any other story aside what I have told you is wishful thinking and cannot be backed by evidence.

haddeylium:
Give the question a try

haddeylium:
I like the way you talked about decomposition.
But how about composition of this incredible designs?
Like how life get here?

MrPRevailer:
Simply put, you have been deceived by modern translations which aim to change the original translation to kill the scriptural power and uniqueness.
In that same translation, i'm sure it also removed the word "Begotten" in John 3:16
It also removes the trinity of God from 1 John 5:7
The father,Son and Holy ghost. These three are one.

The Bible warned us of those in the last days who will deceive many by coming in the name of Christ. These news translators have removed and added to the Bible. The curse of Revelation 22:18-19 is them.