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Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 1:40pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


Already did. The Bible writers aren't saying that the earth is immobile. They were stressing the point that the earth will never be destroyed.

For example, in the Bible, God usually swore using the words: “As long as I live”. It does not mean that God will die but that he's giving us assurance that whatever he says will come true. It's the same in this case.

Back to the earth issue, does the earth rotate and revolve around the sun in a haphazardly manner or in a regular pattern? Are you aware that if the earth is located in a habitable zone that if it should move out of that place, radiation will deal with us?
That's when you'll truly understand what is meant by “FIXED”.
lol, now you are gonna give us another definition for FIXED just to prove the Bible is consistent with science. grin

You are funny lol cheesy
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 1:41pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


I'm not giving any impression. You asked me to explain which I did. Now if that doesn't do it for you, then fine. But know that when it comes to the Bible, you can not tell me what is what and which is which.
But your explanation gives an inference that the Bible was portly translated from Hebrew to English hence the confusion.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 1:43pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
lol, now you are gonna give us another definition for FIXED just to prove the Bible is consistent with science. grin

You are funny lol cheesy

So it is clear! Good! smiley
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 1:45pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


So it is clear! Good! smiley
Not clear, You gave me another definition of FIXED to prove your point. You don’t have to lie bro.

There’s no Harm in accepting that you don’t know.

In science, nothing is fixed, everything is in motion. Please I’m done with your redefinition of fixed cheesy
It gives me the impression that the Bible was written by confused people who can’t relay their point coherently
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 1:46pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
But your explanation gives an inference that the Bible was portly translated from Hebrew to English hence the confusion.

No. The analogy is there for you to read.
DappaD:
The earth in that Bible verse was compared to a building.(compare Hebrews 3:4)
Like I said, the Bible defines things in ways the layman can understand.

Just like the foundation holds a literal building in place is the same way those unseen forces that govern the universe hold the earth in place so that it will not move away from its designated area in which it's meant to revolve.

For someone to claims to be a science professor, not only can you not prove youe evolution theory but you also have little or no knowledge regarding the laws governing the universe and where and how the earth is actually fixated. Note that I transited from the Bible's view to the view accepted by science to prove the reliability of the Bible.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 1:47pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


No. The analogy is there for you to read.


For someone to claims to be a science professor, not only can you not prove youe evolution theory but you also have little or no knowledge regarding the laws governing the universe and where and how the earth is actually fixated. Note that I transited from the Bible's view to the view accepted by science to prove the reliability of the Bible.
you keep talking about evolution like you actually know what it is cheesy

I can prove to you that you don’t know what evolution is.
Should I?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 1:48pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Not clear, You gave me another definition of FIXED to prove your point. You don’t have to lie bro.
There’s no Harm in accepting that you don’t know.
In science, nothing is fixed, everything is in motion. Please I’m done with your redefinition of fixed cheesy
It gives me the impression that the Bible was written by confused people who can’t relay their point coherently
Usually when people begin to get sarcastic, you know they've exhausted all they have in store. So the next thing is to act like a comedian.






DappaD:

No. The analogy is there for you to read.
For someone to claims to be a science professor, not only can you not prove youe evolution theory but you also have little or no knowledge regarding the laws governing the universe and where and how the earth is actually fixated. Note that I transited from the Bible's view to the view accepted by science to prove the reliability of the Bible.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 1:50pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
you keep talking about evolution like you actually know what it is cheesy

I can prove to you that you don’t know what evolution is.
Should I?

There's no need to prove what was handed down to you by a white man. The same way you people keep blasting religionists that the Bible was written by ancient men.
Tit for tat, eh??
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 1:51pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:

Usually when people begin to get sarcastic, you know they've exhausted all they have in store. So the next thing is to act like a comedian.






you are a poor student of geography.

Come on, just admit you don’t know it.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 1:53pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


There's no need to prove what was handed down to you by a white man. The same way you people keep blasting religionists that the Bible was written by ancient men.
Tit for tat, eh??
Anybody who understand theory of Evolution don’t dispute it.

I put it to you that you don’t understand it.
I can prove that by asking you just one question that will unveil your ignorance as regard the subject matter.

Are you game?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 1:53pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
[s]you are a poor student of geography.
Come on, just admit you don’t know it.[/s]


Pay attention to the words below.

DappaD:

Usually when people begin to get sarcastic, you know they've exhausted all they have in store. So the next thing is to act like a comedian.

Seems I wasn't wrong after all.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 1:56pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Anybody who understand theory of Evolution don’t dispute it.

I put it to you that you don’t understand it.
I can prove that by asking you just one question that will unveil your ignorance as regard the subject matter.
Are you game?

I won't believe that English is difficult for you to comprehend. I said there's no need to prove what was handed down to you by WHITE MEN in suits and labcoats. You will just repeat the popular theory which is already rampant and explained in most biology textbooks. But regarding the higher science professors, they've already disagreed in whole or in part with your evolution theory.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by MrPRevailer(m): 2:01pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:

Nowhere did I say bad people will be resurrected. Read slowly.

Romans 6:23-For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.
The wages of sin is death, nothing more.
Unless you mean bad people will be given eternal life.
God's word say
Rom. 6:7: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”
No further punishment for bad people after death. They have been aquinted from theirs Sins. They have no hope of being resurrected like faithful ones and those that excercise faith In Jesus' Christ



This is symbolic also
I'll explain if you want
Watching with brontoscope

Oya, Explain it.

Also explain Mark 9:43-44 "it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 44Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Also explain Luke 16:28 "Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 2:03pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


I won't believe that English is difficult for you to comprehend. I said there's no need to prove what was handed down to you by WHITE MEN in suits and labcoats. You will just repeat the popular theory which is already rampant and explained in most biology textbooks. But regarding the higher science professors, they've already disagreed in whole or in part with your evolution theory.
you don’t understand evolution if you do then answer this question. No maneuvers.

Why have we stopped using chloroquine to treat malaria parasite?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 2:05pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


Pay attention to the words below.



Seems I wasn't wrong after all.
You are running from pillar to post.

Everything you have typed doesn’t have a single evidence for backup so I can’t pay attention to that.


If you understand theory of evolution, tell us why we can no longer treat Malaria parasite infection with the drug “chloroquine”


Just give me the answer, I’m not interested in your stories
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 2:07pm On Dec 02, 2020
Of course, the only two scriptures which hellfire propagators know in the entire Bible and that which will do their best to miscontrue.

MrPRevailer:

Watching with brontoscope
Oya, Explain it.
Also explain Mark 9:43-44 "it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 44Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Remember that when Jesus was telling this parable, his audience had in mind a location that was familiar to them where rubbish was burned—Gehenna, located outside Jerusalem. So in their minds, what will they throw into Gehenna? Living or dead bodies?


Also explain Luke 16:28 "Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
Does MrPrevailer agree that the parable of the rich man and Lazarus is meant to be understood LITERALLY while the other parables be understood SYMBOLICALLY?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 2:13pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
it is not known who first invented a telescope but it first primary telescope was patented by Hans Lippershey in 1608 and it was not discovered by mistake.

Is it possible for a telescope to form itself .
If I tell you this... would you believe me?

Just provide prove after afterlife and stop maneuvering everything
How about how the life is formed? Beforelife?
You want to the discuss roof of a house without foundation.
Find another joke mister
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 2:14pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
you don’t understand evolution if you do then answer this question. No maneuvers.
Why have we stopped using chloroquine to treat malaria parasite?




FatherOfJesus:
You are running from pillar to post.
Everything you have typed doesn’t have a single evidence for backup so I can’t pay attention to that.
If you understand theory of evolution, tell us why we can no longer treat Malaria parasite infection with the drug “chloroquine”
Just give me the answer, I’m not interested in your stories


Not that it doesn't have evidence but you're lazy to do research. As for me, like I've always said, I'm not interested in an ideology that is not reasonable from my perspective.

As for your chloroquine and malaria hullabaloo, know today that mutations are not a basis for your evolution theory because mutations do not form new species.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 2:17pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:








Not that it doesn't have evidence but you're lazy to do research. As for me, like I've always said, I'm not interested in an ideology that is not reasonable from my perspective.

As for your chloroquine and malaria hullabaloo, know today that mutations are not a basis for your evolution theory because mutations do not form new species.

omgg cheesy
Man thought he's in discuss with all these random churchgoers he can toss around with useless theory
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 2:22pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:








Not that it doesn't have evidence but you're lazy to do research. As for me, like I've always said, I'm not interested in an ideology that is not reasonable from my perspective.

As for your chloroquine and malaria hullabaloo, know today that mutations are not a basis for your evolution theory because mutations do not form new species.
mutation are not the basis for evolution? Lol cheesy
You see that you do not understand evolution.

So what are the basis for evolution as listed?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 2:24pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:








Not that it doesn't have evidence but you're lazy to do research. As for me, like I've always said, I'm not interested in an ideology that is not reasonable from my perspective.

As for your chloroquine and malaria hullabaloo, know today that mutations are not a basis for your evolution theory because mutations do not form new species.
Bro please don’t ever say mutations are not the basis for evolution. It’s embarrassing.

The most important factor that influences evolution is “mutation”. The moment mutation occurs then evolution gradually starts setting in.

I can explain how it works if you can give me listening ears and ask me questions. You can learn a lot from me
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 2:32pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
mutation are not the basis for evolution? Lol cheesy
You see that you do not understand evolution.

So what are the basis for evolution as listed?

Answer this two questions
Is mutation disastrous or helpful?
Does a mutation produce anything new?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOfJesus: 2:39pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


Answer this two questions
Is mutation disastrous or helpful?
Does a mutation anything new?
mutation can be disastrous or helpful depending on if the environmental conditions are suited for that mutant to adapt.

Mutation is always happening, it always results in a new genetic orientation. Mutation is one reason why you will never look exactly like you sibling or have exactly same genetic makeup even as you have same parents.


I know what you are thinking now. You think mutation is what you see in sci-fi movies? Yeah, that’s mutation on large scale and it doesn’t work like that naturally. That’s why it’s a movie cheesy
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 2:44pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
mutation can be disastrous or helpful depending on if the environmental conditions are suited for that mutant to adapt.
Mutation is always happening, it always results in a new genetic orientation. Mutation is one reason why you will never look exactly like you sibling or have exactly same genetic makeup even as you have same parents.
I know what you are thinking now. You think mutation is what you see in sci-fi movies? Yeah, that’s mutation on large scale and it doesn’t work like that naturally. That’s why it’s a movie cheesy

This is hands down disappointment.
Mutation, that's a product of copying mistake of DNA?
Are you saying it's not a destruction process?

sibling?
Do you even know the difference between this and variation in sibkings?
A major in biology evolution indeed?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 2:51pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:


I know what you are thinking now. You think mutation is what you see in sci-fi movies? Yeah, that’s mutation on large scale and it doesn’t work like that naturally. That’s why it’s a movie cheesy

This is what sci-fiction movies wants you to accept.
There's no proof of evolution. People that are accepting it did so cos' it's the alternate route for not believing in a supreme being

If a mutation occur among siblings
Does it produce a new specie?
THINK!

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Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:09pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


This is hands down disappointment.
Mutation, that's a product of copying mistake of DNA?
Are you saying it's not a destruction process?

sibling?
Do you even know the difference between this and variation in sibkings?
A major in biology evolution indeed?
oh God. Mutation is the cause of variation. Without mutation, variation cannot happen. Variations occur because of mutation which leads to increase in gene pool.

Let me open your world of imagination a bit.

If you buy 10rabbits. 5 brown rabbits and 5 white (mutation). If you release them into a large garden and leave them for one year. You will discover that the initial ratio of 1:1 of brown to white rabbits will drift in favour of the brown rabbit.

Do you know why? I will tell you.

It’s because the environment conditions (garden) will most likely favour the brown rabbits. The easier for predators to spot the white rabbits and eat than than the brown ones. Overtime you will discover than because of those environmental factor, the brown fur gene will adapt better and have better chance of passing on its gene to their offspring.

Now imagine if you live in a snowy Alaska, and you buy 5 white rabbits and 5 brown. Which fir gene do you think is best suited for that environmental condition?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:10pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


omgg cheesy
Man thought he's in discuss with all these random churchgoers he can toss around with useless theory

He doesn't know that we've dealt with science professors like him in the past.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:12pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


Answer this two questions
Is mutation disastrous or helpful?
Does a mutation produce anything new?

The highlighted is just what I want to hear from him.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:13pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
mutation are not the basis for evolution? Lol cheesy
You see that you do not understand evolution.

So what are the basis for evolution as listed?

Nope it's not. Period.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:13pm On Dec 02, 2020
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haddeylium:


This is what sci-fiction movies wants you to accept.
There's no proof of evolution. People that are accepting it did so cos' it's the alternate route for not believing in a supreme being

If a mutation occur among siblings
Does it produce a new specie?
THINK!
you don’t understand a bit of what evolution is. Calm down.

There’s enormous evidence for evolution. It’s too overwhelming and irrefutable.

In this present environmental condition, a haemoglobim SS genotype has a lesser chance of finding a mate and passing on his gene than an AA genotype.

Now, you THINK. What happens if the environmental condition changes, like the atmospheric oxygen concentration increases by some fraction.

Think what will happen to An AA and an SS and the over all effect on the gene pool of humans accross the globe.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:16pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


Nope it's not. Period.
It can’t be period cos you don’t understand evolution. You only read the Bible grin

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