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Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:16pm On Dec 02, 2020
Story story story. Environmental conditions, yes, have a part to play in mutations. But does mutation produce an entirely new specie? Simple question. Not all these gibberish you're uttering now.

FatherOFJesus2:
oh God. Mutation is the cause of variation. Without mutation, variation cannot happen. Variations occur because of mutation which leads to increase in gene pool.
Let me open your world of imagination a bit.
If you buy 10rabbits. 5 brown rabbits and 5 white (mutation). If you release them into a large garden and leave them for one year. You will discover that the initial ratio of 1:1 of brown to white rabbits will drift in favour of the brown rabbit.
Do you know why? I will tell you.
It’s because the environment conditions (garden) will most likely favour the brown rabbits. The easier for predators to spot the white rabbits and eat than than the brown ones. Overtime you will discover than because of those environmental factor, the brown fur gene will adapt better and have better chance of passing on its gene to their offspring.
Now imagine if you live in a snowy Alaska, and you buy 5 white rabbits and 5 brown. Which fir gene do you think is best suited for that environmental condition?

Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:17pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
oh God. Mutation is the cause of variation. Without mutation, variation cannot happen. Variations occur because of mutation which leads to increase in gene pool.

Let me open your world of imagination a bit.

If you buy 10rabbits. 5 brown rabbits and 5 white (mutation). If you release them into a large garden and leave them for one year. You will discover that the initial ratio of 1:1 of brown to white rabbits will drift in favour of the brown rabbit.

Do you know why? I will tell you.

It’s because the environment conditions (garden) will most likely favour the brown rabbits. The easier for predators to spot the white rabbits and eat than than the brown ones. Overtime you will discover than because of those environmental factor, the brown fur gene will adapt better and have better chance of passing on its gene to their offspring.

Now imagine if you live in a snowy Alaska, and you buy 5 white rabbits and 5 brown. Which fir gene do you think is best suited for that environmental condition?


You don't understand man!
Variation occur, yes!
But is that that undergoes this variation still rabbit?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:18pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


He doesn't know that we've dealt with science professors like him in the past.
so why don’t you look like you siblings?

If mitigation’s doesn’t cause variation.

Did you even pass biology in school? grin

All these just to prove the nonsense in the Bible grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:18pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
It can’t be period cos you don’t understand evolution. You only read the Bible grin

Just answer the simple question and show proof that mutations produce a new specie altogether. Oya. No time.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:19pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
so why don’t you look like you siblings?

If mitigation’s doesn’t cause variation.

Did you even pass biology in school? grin

All these just to prove the nonsense in the Bible grin

We've gone over this countless times.






DappaD:

Usually when people begin to get sarcastic, you know they've exhausted all they have in store. So the next thing is to act like a comedian.

Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:20pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


You don't understand man!
Variation occur, yes!
But is that that undergoes this variation still rabbit?
We are getting there.

I know where you problem is.

You think evolution is changing of specie right?

Like transforming from one specie to another? Right

That’s you’re knowledge of evolution
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:21pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


We've gone over this countless times.






Evolution is fact, if you don’t understand doesn’t mean the nonsense in the Bible is true cheesy

I can teach you
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:21pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
Tyou don’t understand a bit of what evolution is. Calm down.

There’s enormous evidence for evolution. It’s too overwhelming and irrefutable.

In this present environmental condition, a haemoglobim SS genotype has a lesser chance of finding a mate and passing on his gene than an AA genotype.

Now, you THINK. What happens if the environmental condition changes, like the atmospheric oxygen concentration increases by some fraction.

Think what will happen to An AA and an SS and the over all effect on the gene pool of humans accross the globe.

Rest man!
you're explsining the recombination between homologous chromosomes during meiosis that causes variation in offspring.
This process does not produce new specie ... did it?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:22pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
We are getting there.

I know where you problem is.

You think evolution is changing of specie right?

Like transforming from one specie to another? Right

That’s you’re knowledge of evolution

So apes and human beings are the same?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:23pm On Dec 02, 2020
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Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:23pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


Rest man!
you're explsining the recombination between homologous chromosomes during meiosis that causes variation in offspring.
This process does not produce new specie ... did it?
Your problem is speciation in evolution not evolution as a whole.

You should have said that.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:23pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
Evolution is fact, if you don’t understand doesn’t mean the nonsense in the Bible is true cheesy

I can teach you

We've not even begun to talk about origin of cells and all that.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:25pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


We've not even begun to talk about origin of cells and all that.
yes, definitely not from dirt and women from ribs grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:26pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


Mumu so apes and human beings are the same
sorry that’s what evidence says. I don’t like it either but it’s what it is. grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:28pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
Your problem is speciation in evolution not evolution as a whole.

You should have said that.


The theory of evolution
Simply, mutation produce new specie/creature
Do you even know what you believe?

And you're explaining Variation, does mutation that brings about variation produce new specie?
That's the question
Don't Dodge or you rest!
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:28pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


Mumu so apes and human beings are the same
Why are you insulting me? grin

I’m not the person that made evolution happened, evidences told us that and we can’t help it as well cheesy
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:32pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
sorry that’s what evidence says. I don’t like it either but it’s what it is. grin


Does mutation produce new specie? cheesy

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Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:32pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
sorry that’s what evidence says. I don’t like it either but it’s what it is. grin

So what happened to the remaining hominids? They didn't evolve too? What's stopping them?
Even your so-called Neanderthals have in recent times, been proven to be actual humans and not apes. Fallacy has met its end.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:33pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:



Does mutation produce new specie? cheesy


We'll go as far as quoting his forefather Darwin who failed miserably when this topic was brought up. grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:34pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


The theory of evolution
Simply, mutation produce new specie/creature
Do you even know what you believe?

And you're explaining Variation, does mutation that brings about variation produce new specie?
That's the question
Don't Dodge or you rest!
mutation do not necessarily produce new specie. Remove that from your head and learn.

Variation is the basis for evolution. Without variation evolution is impossible.

Evolution is not the formation of new species. Where do you get all these jargons from?

Evolution is simply the change in the gene pool in a population of over a period of time in response to changing environmental conditions. These change in gene pool in caused by mutations which tend leads to variations.

Overtime, changes can to development of a new specie. Evidence has been seen in fossil records that we evolved from other species and other species can also evolve into another specie.
Fossil records also tells us that it doesn’t happen like you want it to. It takes thousands and millions of years.

Unless you want to dispute fossil data
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:34pm On Dec 02, 2020
@haddeylium, you've noticed what the guy is doing now. He's shying away from the current question but he's the one who went to bring mosquito and chloroquine matter here oo grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:35pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:



Does mutation produce new specie? cheesy
Nope, mutations do not produce new specie. Albinism is a mutation, are albinos another specie?

Accumulated mutation over millions of years can produce new specie.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:38pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


So what happened to the remaining hominids? They didn't evolve too? What's stopping them?
Even your so-called Neanderthals have in recent times, been proven to be actual humans and not apes. Fallacy has met its end.
sorry sir. Chimpanzees, orangutans, gorillas and bonobos are hominids.

You will know this if you didn’t apply for special Centre during Waec grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:39pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
Nope, mutations do not produce new specie. Albinism is a mutation, are albinos another specie?

Accumulated mutation over millions of years can produce new specie.

So, you agree with DappaD that mutation is not the basis for evolution? grin

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Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:40pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


So, you agree with DappaD that mutation is not the basis for evolution? grin
i didn’t know that you can’t read that “accumulation of mutations is the cause of evolution “

Are you myopic? grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:42pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:


So, you agree with DappaD that mutation is not the basis for evolution? grin
i still do not know why it’s difficult for you to understand that evolution is not necessarily the production of a new specie.

Learn to read other books other than the Bible grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 3:44pm On Dec 02, 2020
haddeylium:

I like the way you talked about decomposition. But how about composition of this incredible designs? Like how life get here?

Tell me what's the incredible/intelligent design of a cancerous tissue?
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:46pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
story sir. Chimpanzees, orangutans, gorillas and bonobos are hominids.

You will know this if you didn’t apply for special Centre during Waec grin

Sarcasm won't give the answer to the questions we've been asking all this while. Darwin claimed that all species came from one common ancestor. If that's the case, then human beings once came from fishes and amphibians? Abeg abeg I can't be that stupid to accept such a baseless theory with no evidence. All facts point to what the Bible says that all living creatures were created according to their kinds. Not that they evolved. (Genesis 1:21)
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:46pm On Dec 02, 2020
Bacteriologist:


Tell me what's the incredible/intelligent design of a cancerous tissue?
Or what’s the intelligence design of a microcephaly, cystic fibrosis, Down syndrome etc

I’m even more intelligent than the designer grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:47pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
i still do not know why it’s difficult for you to understand that evolution is not necessarily the production of a new specie.

Learn to read other books other than the Bible grin

Your forefather Darwin would disagree with you.
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:47pm On Dec 02, 2020
DappaD:


Sarcasm won't give the answer to the questions we've been asking all this while. Darwin claimed that all species came from one common ancestor. If that's the case, then human beings once came from fishes and amphibians? Abeg abeg I can't be that stupid to accept such a baseless theory with evidence. All facts point to what the Bible says that all living creatures were created according to their kinds. Not that they evolved. (Genesis 1:21)
Yes all specie come from one common source and later evolved into other specie overtime.


You have any evidence to dispute that because all evidence we have today is pointing toward that rather than creation from ribs and dirt grin
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:48pm On Dec 02, 2020
FatherOFJesus2:
i didn’t know that you can’t read that “accumulation of mutations is the cause of evolution “

Are you myopic? grin

Mutations cannot transform an original species [of plant or animal] into an entirely new one.
what you'll have is a variant!
Science experiment prove this.
Homo sapien of different variant will always be homosapiens

You can't be founded?
You're just believing what you wanted to believe

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