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Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by MrPRevailer(m): 4:17pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
DappaD: No, he was preaching the kingdom of God to them, not the balooney you are trying to makeup. So you are insinuating that Abraham's bosom and Paradise are symbolic and not literal places? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:17pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:Thicker than a wall, I’m here to school him. Dude said variation can’t lead to evolution I’m screenshooting all his stuppid comments and to project it in our class tomorrow. That’s what you get when you try to learn evolution from the Bible |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:18pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: Can a spaceship form itself ? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:20pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: Haha seems like you're just having fun talking with the bloke. Variation can't lead to evolution ke..lol..maybe he should publish his hypothesis in a journal for peer review and win a Nobel prize for debunking evolution then |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:21pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: No. And what has that got to do with intelligent design? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:22pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:ofcourse we have to come here once in a while to have fun. A today I got an evolutionary pastor who said variations and mutations cannot lead to evolution |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by jamesid29(m): 4:26pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2:Still two completely different concepts sir; but it's all good sir. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:26pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:can we continue Let’s talk about fossil records as evidence for evolution. Do you know anything about radiometric dating? Which gives the age of rocks and fossils? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:26pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: haha...sounds like we need a diary for most iconic stupid statements from christians and muslims on nairaland. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:28pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
jamesid29:i beg to disagree. Crossing over is the exchange of genetic material between non-sister chromatids of homologous chromosomes during meiosis, which results in new allelic combinations in the daughter cells. Which is the only recombination that lead to different genetic features in sibling. Unless you are talking about formation of diploid chromosomes of the two donated pair of 23 chromosomes from each parent’s gametes. If you have any other concept, I will be glad to learn something new. I can’t know it all |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:28pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: Good! If a spaceship requires a maker and can't occur by accident. Are you saying life is not a product of an intelligent designs? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:30pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: Evolution- It's process that produce New species Variation changes occur in a species. Variation haven't produce a new species before. if you have evidence of this . let's see? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:32pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: What's the evidence that the two process produce New species. I can only observe it in a specie Don't be this gullible |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 4:34pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
MrPRevailer: Luke 16:30: “But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to these.’” So that means in your hellfire, they use to teach people Law of Moses? Or is Moses in hellfire? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:35pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:Evolution is not the production of new specie. Evolutionary pastor. Evolution can happen even within a specie. How do I teach you? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 4:40pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: The guy is just arguing fruitlessly nah. Where was he during the 1940's to 1980's when specially trained scientists worldwide embarked on a project to prove that micro-mutations led to evolution? Their experiments after 100 years have all resulted in failure on a grand scale. Because if humans with working brains can't produce new species through inducing mutations after several experiments, then why would anyone in their right minds believe that some uncontrolled unintelligent process took place to produce complex cells and entirely new species? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:41pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:You can only observe it in a specie because you are methuselah It doesn’t happen like the ascension of Jesus. It takes millions of years and we have the evidence of this. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by jamesid29(m): 4:43pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2:I was talking about mutation and genetic recombination. They two completely different concepts. You can't interswitch them and say you were trying to make a case for variation that leads to evolution. They are two completely different concepts that play two completely different roles sir and it struck me as odd that you would make such call since you said you were a biologist. That was my point sir. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:44pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
DappaD:you won case is serious because you don’t even know what mutations are Now you are digging up research done in 1980 No wonder you also believe in talking snakes and the ribs nonsense |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 4:45pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: Fossil records actually disagree with the different variation of the evolution theory. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:46pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: No, I am saying we don't know where life came from..YET. And I thought I just debunked an "INTELLIGENT " designer few posts ago. Don't make me think I'm wasting my time talking with a blockhead. No offense meant. Back to the discussion; You need to take a long hard look at the possibilities. Life on earth: 1. Could have been created by a supernatural force (albeit unintelligently) 2. Could have come from other planets (another life form visiting earth sometime ago) 3. Could have formed from completely natural processes (chemistry and biochemistry) 4. Could have always existed.. These are the possibilities I can think of atm. Tell me how you ruled out all the other possibilities and accepted option 1 to be the correct one. And how you arrived at your particular god being that supernatural force. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:46pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
jamesid29:I never interswitched them. You are the person who wasn’t getting the point. Mutations is not the reason why you don’t look exactly like your sibling, it’s because of gene recombination during moietic division. The point I was trying to make that genetic recombination leads to variation which then contribute to evolution alongside heritable mutations. If we all look like our sibling, we cannot adapt hence evolution will not happen. That was my point |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:48pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
DappaD:how? I want to learn |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:50pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: And I say a spaceship requires a maker because every other spaceship I have seen was naturally designed. i.e I have evidence that spaceships are designed. My reason for the response was due to a reasoning based on induction. How did you conclude that life necessarily requires a supernatural maker? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:51pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
jamesid29:As a matter of fact, recombinations and heritable mutations are the key facto for variation. Without those two, evolution wouldn’t be possible. Without them, we won’t be here debating today. Hope you now get what I was driving at? Just that they other guy was too slow to figure it |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:52pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: So, one species can evolve into a completely new kind of creature right? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:53pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: which one is most complex Cell or Spaceship? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:53pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:One species does not "turn into" another or several other species -- not in an instant, anyway. The evolutionary process of speciation is how one population of a species changes over time to the point where that population is distinct and can no longer interbreed with the "parent" population. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by jamesid29(m): 4:59pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2:This was your exact statement sir FatherOfJesus:I'm not trying to do a "got you moment" so we don't really need to keep going back and forth on the matter. We all make mistakes; I just didn't think it's one a biologist would make and that's what stuck out. If you hadn't said you were a biologist, I wouldn't have even commented at all. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 5:00pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: This is what Hollywood is feeding you and it happens once in a million year |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 5:02pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
jamesid29:well, I apologize. That must have been a mistake. But I know recombination is the reason why we don’t look like our sibling. My mistake |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 5:03pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:nope, that’s fact. Fossil record holds that evidence There’s evidence that we didn’t come from ribs and dirt 6000years Ago |
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