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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nettuno: 1:37am On Dec 03, 2020
Esteemed Experts in the House,

Please how many drums of paint do I need for the internal and external of a bungalow of 5 rooms, 2 parlour/dining (excluding toilets and kitchen because they are tiled).

A painter I contacted is talking of a total of about 70 drums of paint! Is this correct?

Thanks for your expected assistance.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:13am On Dec 03, 2020
One4me:


Thank you Sir.
I am sworn to helping as many people here as l can, with the ideas l have, most of which are from this thread and good people like you that shared it freely with us.
My conscience is clear that l have tried. grin

I pray that what happened in 2014 do not repeat itself again.

Do “naija oversabi homeowners” ever listen?

________
Limitless choice sounds delightful in theory. But in most work situations, endless options clog the drain. Homeowners should learn to set clearer goals and avoid analysis paralysis by setting cut-off points and sticking to it.

No be everything you’d DIY!


______
In my whole life, I’ve never set out to buy a vehicle by myself. I always ask professionals to do it for me. I can still count nothing less than 14 to my name.

The reason I always ignore most Nairaland requests is simply because a lot of people don’t know their limit. Even a master satisficer (master pleaser) will falter when worn down by too many choices.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by true2home(m): 3:05am On Dec 03, 2020
Its ok IF and i say again IF the builder has imbedded the reinforcement in the CMU. But looking at other features of the structure, this person don't have a clue of structures at all. By pure observation, the build is missing a Column!!!


Loogunofe:
Sirs, Please how is this lintel done? I saw the picture online and looks different from the reinforced concrete I'm used to.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 4:18am On Dec 03, 2020
Nettuno:
Esteemed Experts in the House,

Please how many drums of paint do I need for the internal and external of a bungalow of 5 rooms, 2 parlour/dining (excluding toilets and kitchen because they are tiled).

A painter I contacted is talking of a total of about 70 drums of paint! Is this correct?

Thanks for your expected assistance.
I would give a rough estimate bearing in mind the rooms may be big in size.
5 drums for the rooms, 1 drum for the living room, 1 drum and 2 gallons for the second living room with dining, 1 drum for the passage,4 drums for the ceiling, 5 drums for the external including parapet, windowhood and pillars, 6 drums for the fence, pillars and cap.
The quantity required may be less depending on the dimensions of the house and type of paint used. I'm not talking of brand here. Satin covers a bit more than matte and matte covers a bit more than premium emulsion and that also covers more than budget grade emulsion.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by neduboo(m): 6:12am On Dec 03, 2020
One4me:



For a Bungalow, a structural design is not a requirement but it is good if you have one.
Now, a Bungalow does not require Pilling, even if it is in a Swamp.
The weight of a Bungalow cannot sink the building, in the worst Swamp, if you do a proper Foundation.
Sinking is caused when the weight of a Building exceeds the bearing capacity (Upthrust) of the soil.
The above can be tackled in three ways:
1) Increase the weight bearing capacity of the Soil, using a Pile Foundation (so that it sits on a layer of soil with better capacity, deep down in the ground)
2) Reduce the downward weight of the building (especially a Bungalow, which is already close to the threshold upward thrust capacity of the soil) by using lighter materials to build
3) More importantly, design the foundation is a manner that increases the foundation base of the building, to increase surface area and thus reduce its weight/downward pressure on the weak soil.

#3 is achieved by designing an INVERTED T- Raft Foundation.
Upthrust = Force/Area
Since the downward Force of the building is considered static/unchanging (total Weight of Bungalow), by increasing the area covered by the raft Foundation, you are reducing the Upthrust of the Floor, on the building and thus its carrying capacity, without a Pile Foundation.

If a Pile will cost you, #6M - #8M, if you get a good Engineer to do your Build, the Foundation l described above will save you a minimum of #3Million.
Contact an Engineer on this site, @Abdulwatecx, give him your build to do for you.
He is honest, reliable and good at his job. Yes, l can vouch for him
but l dont know if he is free right now..
I am trying to think of who else l can recommend but my memory is empty right now.
Dont try to do it yourself, you dont have the knowledge, dont use just a Bricklayer and you will be wasting money doing a Pile foundation for a Bungalow, its an over-kill.

BTW: I am not just saying this, l have put it into practice on a One Storey building, in the worst Swamp you can think of and the building is standing for over five years now. It has settled to its final state.

If you need a reliable bricklayer, let me know.

Thank you sir. I will consider your suggestion
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 6:21am On Dec 03, 2020
Cassie74:
Please does anyone knows how I can get a trailer load of cement at best price in Abuja...
contact me via my profile and I will hook you up
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:32am On Dec 03, 2020
One4me:



For a Bungalow, a structural design is not a requirement but it is good if you have one.
Now, a Bungalow does not require Pilling, even if it is in a Swamp.
The weight of a Bungalow cannot sink the building, in the worst Swamp, if you do a proper Foundation.
Sinking is caused when the weight of a Building exceeds the bearing capacity (Upthrust) of the soil.
The above can be tackled in three ways:
1) Increase the weight bearing capacity of the Soil, using a Pile Foundation (so that it sits on a layer of soil with better capacity, deep down in the ground)
2) Reduce the downward weight of the building (especially a Bungalow, which is already close to the threshold upward thrust capacity of the soil) by using lighter materials to build
3) More importantly, design the foundation is a manner that increases the foundation base of the building, to increase surface area and thus reduce its weight/downward pressure on the weak soil.

#3 is achieved by designing an INVERTED T- Raft Foundation.
Upthrust = Force/Area
Since the downward Force of the building is considered static/unchanging (total Weight of Bungalow), by increasing the area covered by the raft Foundation, you are reducing the Upthrust of the Floor, on the building and thus its carrying capacity, without a Pile Foundation.

If a Pile will cost you, #6M - #8M, if you get a good Engineer to do your Build, the Foundation l described above will save you a minimum of #3Million.
Contact an Engineer on this site, @Abdulwatecx, give him your build to do for you.
He is honest, reliable and good at his job. Yes, l can vouch for him
but l dont know if he is free right now..
I am trying to think of who else l can recommend but my memory is empty right now.
Dont try to do it yourself, you dont have the knowledge, dont use just a Bricklayer and you will be wasting money doing a Pile foundation for a Bungalow, its an over-kill.

BTW: I am not just saying this, l have put it into practice on a One Storey building, in the worst Swamp you can think of and the building is standing for over five years now. It has settled to its final state.

If you need a reliable bricklayer, let me know.



If the client in question can do a soil test it will help to get other suggestions to be considered instead of what he is trying to do.
It's even good that Abdulwatecx has come up to make a statement.

I remember some years back a nairalander posted his soil test report here for a build in Port Harcourt (duplex of some sort). The recommendation on the report was a raft of 1200mm height. Abdulwatecx gave a recommendation based on the report also but the client/ home owner after various additions by professionals here and probably offline he and his site engineer settled for a 600mm height ground/grade beam for the foundation.

I do not know how many can recall. He even did a post of his expenditure on the project on a coloured worksheet here with pix of the project.
I wish I can remember his username on this platform.


His user name is FADEO. The build started sometime in Nov 2018. Hope those who contributed can recall.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 6:50am On Dec 03, 2020
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 6:55am On Dec 03, 2020
Lol 70 drums.... omg... 70 drums of 20ltrs ? Ole no everybody ni Nigeria. Is your wall screeded if yes u don save ur self money.. 4 drums will finish everything if applying satin.....



Nettuno:
Esteemed Experts in the House,

Please how many drums of paint do I need for the internal and external of a bungalow of 5 rooms, 2 parlour/dining (excluding toilets and kitchen because they are tiled).

A painter I contacted is talking of a total of about 70 drums of paint! Is this correct?

Thanks for your expected assistance.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nettuno: 7:06am On Dec 03, 2020
gbadexy:

I would give a rough estimate bearing in mind the rooms may be big in size.
5 drums for the rooms, 1 drum for the living room, 1 drum and 2 gallons for the second living room with dining, 1 drum for the passage,4 drums for the ceiling, 5 drums for the external including parapet, windowhood and pillars, 6 drums for the fence, pillars and cap.
The quantity required may be less depending on the dimensions of the house and type of paint used. I'm not talking of brand here. Satin covers a bit more than matte and matte covers a bit more than premium emulsion and that also covers more than budget grade emulsion.

Thanks a great deal for this. I remain grateful.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nettuno: 7:11am On Dec 03, 2020
KIDfurniture:
Lol 70 drums.... omg... 70 drums of 20ltrs ? Ole no everybody ni Nigeria. Is your wall screeded if yes u don save ur self money.. 4 drums will finish everything if applying satin.....




I was shocked when I saw his quotation. Thanks for your input. Greatly appreciated.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 7:20am On Dec 03, 2020
Nettuno:


I was shocked when I saw his quotation. Thanks for your input. Greatly appreciated.

it even shock me than you...it's too much bro...over quoted.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:29am On Dec 03, 2020
KIDfurniture:
Lol 70 drums.... omg... 70 drums of 20ltrs ? Ole no everybody ni Nigeria. Is your wall screeded if yes u don save ur self money.. 4 drums will finish everything if applying satin.....

Aje pajude grin

Only God can “safe” us.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:32am On Dec 03, 2020
Nettuno:


Thanks a great deal for this. I remain grateful.
You're welcome sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:41am On Dec 03, 2020
KIDfurniture:
Lol 70 drums.... omg... 70 drums of 20ltrs ? Ole no everybody ni Nigeria. Is your wall screeded if yes u don save ur self money.. 4 drums will finish everything if applying satin.....




Lol if you are going painting 4 story hotel
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nettuno: 7:49am On Dec 03, 2020
Johntemmy:


it even shock me than you...it's too much bro...over quoted.

Thanks bro !
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nettuno: 7:49am On Dec 03, 2020
twinskenny:


Lol if you are going painting 4 story hotel

I wonder oo...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:58am On Dec 03, 2020
true2home:
Its ok IF and i say again IF the builder has imbedded the reinforcement in the CMU. But looking at other features of the structure, this person don't have a clue of structures at all. By pure observation, the build is missing a Column!!!




It’s not a biggie if he’s using bond beam block which I doubt.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 8:21am On Dec 03, 2020
KIDfurniture:
Lol 70 drums.... omg... 70 drums of 20ltrs ? Ole no everybody ni Nigeria. Is your wall screeded if yes u don save ur self money.. 4 drums will finish everything if applying satin.....


gbadexy:

I would give a rough estimate bearing in mind the rooms may be big in size.
5 drums for the rooms, 1 drum for the living room, 1 drum and 2 gallons for the second living room with dining, 1 drum for the passage,4 drums for the ceiling, 5 drums for the external including parapet, windowhood and pillars, 6 drums for the fence, pillars and cap.
The quantity required may be less depending on the dimensions of the house and type of paint used. I'm not talking of brand here. Satin covers a bit more than matte and matte covers a bit more than premium emulsion and that also covers more than budget grade emulsion.

This is what is frustrating to some of us and killing Nigeria as a whole. It seems that a lot of people in Nigeria have killed their conscience. How can you be asking someone more than double what is require for a project. A lot of our people are suffering because of this high level of dishonesty.

Many of us in diaspora really wanted to help people back home but how can you do this with this level of dishonesty. Imagine you take $50k to 100k home equity loan to establish business with this type of person in Nigeria how are you ever going to be able to recover your investment talk less of making profit.

We blame government for everything but this is not government this is an individual.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:29am On Dec 03, 2020
Dijita:


This is what is frustrating to some of us and killing Nigeria as a whole. It seems that a lot of people in Nigeria have killed their conscience. How can you be asking someone more than double what is require for a project. A lot of our people are suffering because of this high level of dishonesty.

Many of us in diaspora really wanted to help people back home but how can you do this with this level of dishonesty. Imagine you take $50k to 100k home equity loan to establish business with this type of person in Nigeria how are you ever going to be able to recover your investment talk less of making profit.

We blame government for everything but this is not government this is an individual.

And if they’ll just do a good job.

It’s been my experience that thieves like this end up doing a shoddy job as usual.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rajput4real93: 8:55am On Dec 03, 2020
Nettuno:
Esteemed Experts in the House,

Please how many drums of paint do I need for the internal and external of a bungalow of 5 rooms, 2 parlour/dining (excluding toilets and kitchen because they are tiled).

A painter I contacted is talking of a total of about 70 drums of paint! Is this correct?

Thanks for your expected assistance.

This guy is worse than Evans the kidnapper. Based on my opinion, most of our artisans would do worse than the typical Nigerian politicians if they were in power. You may even find the most trusted among them wanting if you do a proper research. I feel bad each time i remember how they suffered me. Only a negligible % of them is honest

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:52am On Dec 03, 2020
rajput4real93:


This guy is worse than Evans the kidnapper. Based on my opinion, most of our artisans would do worse than the typical Nigerian politicians if they were in power. You may even find the most trusted among them wanting if you do a proper research. I feel bad each time i remember how they suffered me. Only a negligible % of them is honest

Apparently he is not actually a painter but a middle man lol

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 9:55am On Dec 03, 2020
BuildingProject:
Hello all, please I need help of professionals in the building. I want to start my kobo kobo project and the bàbà láti I called í about kill me with bills.

Someone should please help me to review all this things he wrote. Most especially the job discussion part.

These Baba Lati's even charge higher than Engineers sef.. it's like running from fry pan (Engineers) to fire (Baba Lati).

120,000 for setting 1000 blocks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 10:00am On Dec 03, 2020
The question is .. will our people ever learn?

KolaShangOne:


These Baba Lati's even charge higher than Engineers sef.. it's like running from fry pan (Engineers) to fire (Baba Lati).

120,000 for setting 1000 blocks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 10:18am On Dec 03, 2020
Dijita:


This is what is frustrating to some of us and killing Nigeria as a whole. It seems that a lot of people in Nigeria have killed their conscience. How can you be asking someone more than double what is require for a project. A lot of our people are suffering because of this high level of dishonesty.

Many of us in diaspora really wanted to help people back home but how can you do this with this level of dishonesty. Imagine you take $50k to 100k home equity loan to establish business with this type of person in Nigeria how are you ever going to be able to recover your investment talk less of making profit.

We blame government for everything but this is not government this is an individual.
I gave a rough estimate of the worst case scenario seeing as there was no measurement given and gave allowance for the usage of budget grade grade emulsion.
A fresh wall would require more paint than a painted or primed wall.
There are lots of variables. I included for the ceiling, external with possibly parapet, windowhood and pillars with the fence on a full plot.
Only a site inspection or accurate measurement could give you an accurate quantity required but even with all those variables considered, it's still around 22 drums for the whole internal and external painting.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DancingSkeleton(m): 1:06pm On Dec 03, 2020
These people supplying roofing sheets at warehouse are really thieves.
I went there 2 days ago to get their quotation, tried making payments but couldn’t due to failure by gtb app. ( I noticed one of the cashiers wrote her phone on the sheet of paper containing their bank information and quotations, she said I can call her in case of anything) So I went to the bank yesterday morning to make a transfer to their account, then myself and my mom went to their warehouse and made arrangements for the supply of the materials I paid for, which was to is to be supplied to my site this morning. After offloading from the vehicle that brought it, I immediately started counting the sheets 500sqm of Roman should give 1000 sheets, to my surprise I counted 878 on my first count, I recounted I got 886. Then I called the driver, he asked that I recount it, I started grouping 50 sheets each, then I got 17 groups and 48 sheets ( 17x 50 = 850, 850+ 48 = 898) so my final count was 898 sheets instead of 1000 sheets which is 449sqm supplied instead of 500sqm. So I called the driver who then passed the phone to the cashier, they asked that we call back because they were going to find out where the error came from. After 20 minutes we called and they confirmed that they supplied 450sqm instead of 500sqm, my mom asked why they made such a big error she ended the call immediately after blabbing for some seconds because she couldn’t make up a reason lol.
Then I remembered this same cashier wrote her number down for a reason, she thought I was the roofer and my mom was my client, so they supplied the materials 50sqm short hoping my mom would come over to buy some extra materials to complete the project, then I’d call cashier later after the job so we can discuss how to share the 50sqm within ourselves, This is 3200 x 50 = 160,000 for Christ sake, we asked the cashier how they’re going to supply me the balance 50sqm, she said I’d have to come get it myself, I decided to hold on a bit till my roofers exhaust the sheets we have on site at the moment, so as to know if I’d have to buy a lil extra or not. These people are full of surprises

Sorry for the long note, and excuse my typos and punctuation errors.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:17pm On Dec 03, 2020
DancingSkeleton:
These people supplying roofing sheets at warehouse are really thieves.
I went there 2 days ago to get their quotation, tried making payments but couldn’t due to failure by gtb app. ( I noticed one of the cashiers wrote her phone on the sheet of paper containing their bank information and quotations, she said I can call her in case of anything) So I went to the bank yesterday morning to make a transfer to their account, then myself and my mom went to their warehouse and made arrangements for the supply of the materials I paid for, which was to is to be supplied to my site this morning. After offloading from the vehicle that brought it, I immediately started counting the sheets 500sqm of Roman should give 1000 sheets, to my surprise I counted 878 on my first count, I recounted I got 886. Then I called the driver, he asked that I recount it, I started grouping 50 sheets each, then I got 17 groups and 48 sheets ( 17x 50 = 850, 850+ 48 = 898) so my final count was 898 sheets instead of 1000 sheets which is 449sqm supplied instead of 500sqm. So I called the driver who then passed the phone to the cashier, they asked that we call back because they were going to find out where the error came from. After 20 minutes we called and they confirmed that they supplied 450sqm instead of 500sqm, my mom asked why they made such a big error she ended the call immediately after blabbing for some seconds because she couldn’t make up a reason lol.
Then I remembered this same cashier wrote her number down for a reason, she thought I was the roofer and my mom was my client, so they supplied the materials 50sqm short hoping my mom would come over to but some extra materials to complete the project, then I’d call cashier later after the job so we can discuss how to share the 50sqm within ourselves, This is 3200 x 50 = 160,000 for Christ sake, we asked the cashier how they’re going to supply me the balance 50sqm, she said I’d have to come get it myself, I decided to hold on a bit till my roofers exhaust the sheets we have on site at the moment, so as to know if I’d have to buy a lil extra or not. These people are full of surprises

Sorry for the long note, and excuse my typos and punctuation errors.

Did you buy from Agen?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:19pm On Dec 03, 2020
KolaShangOne:


These Baba Lati's even charge higher than Engineers sef.. it's like running from fry pan (Engineers) to fire (Baba Lati).

120,000 for setting 1000 blocks


Exactly, that is N120/block. So outrageous.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DancingSkeleton(m): 1:26pm On Dec 03, 2020
segzy14:


Did you buy from Agen?
No I didn’t. I visited Agen’s warehouse at Ugbowo, they won’t be having stone coated sheets till 3rd week of December (still a probability according to them). I called Agen Office at Asaba, same thing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:37pm On Dec 03, 2020
segzy14:



Exactly, that is N120/block. So outrageous.

On behalf of fellow skinflints, I thank you and all the other esteem builders that has graciously and selflessly shown us the way. We may not add to your coffers directly but I never fail to recommend you guys at the drop of a hat.

A neighbor that is in the USA is getting charged N95 per block by his bricklaying Uncle.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 1:40pm On Dec 03, 2020
If everyone practiced the level of benevolence that you practice, I don’t think there will be any needy person on this earth. Thank you for your fine gift, and may the Lord grant you many blessings sir I really appreciate you sir @mufutau55

thank you hajji m once again.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 1:43pm On Dec 03, 2020
DancingSkeleton:
These people supplying roofing sheets at warehouse are really thieves.
I went there 2 days ago to get their quotation, tried making payments but couldn’t due to failure by gtb app. ( I noticed one of the cashiers wrote her phone on the sheet of paper containing their bank information and quotations, she said I can call her in case of anything) So I went to the bank yesterday morning to make a transfer to their account, then myself and my mom went to their warehouse and made arrangements for the supply of the materials I paid for, which was to is to be supplied to my site this morning. After offloading from the vehicle that brought it, I immediately started counting the sheets 500sqm of Roman should give 1000 sheets, to my surprise I counted 878 on my first count, I recounted I got 886. Then I called the driver, he asked that I recount it, I started grouping 50 sheets each, then I got 17 groups and 48 sheets ( 17x 50 = 850, 850+ 48 = 898) so my final count was 898 sheets instead of 1000 sheets which is 449sqm supplied instead of 500sqm. So I called the driver who then passed the phone to the cashier, they asked that we call back because they were going to find out where the error came from. After 20 minutes we called and they confirmed that they supplied 450sqm instead of 500sqm, my mom asked why they made such a big error she ended the call immediately after blabbing for some seconds because she couldn’t make up a reason lol.
Then I remembered this same cashier wrote her number down for a reason, she thought I was the roofer and my mom was my client, so they supplied the materials 50sqm short hoping my mom would come over to but some extra materials to complete the project, then I’d call cashier later after the job so we can discuss how to share the 50sqm within ourselves, This is 3200 x 50 = 160,000 for Christ sake, we asked the cashier how they’re going to supply me the balance 50sqm, she said I’d have to come get it myself, I decided to hold on a bit till my roofers exhaust the sheets we have on site at the moment, so as to know if I’d have to buy a lil extra or not. These people are full of surprises

Sorry for the long note, and excuse my typos and punctuation errors.

What did you pay for it?

Any material you buy , You count the material take it and get the driver to count
When the material arrive on site do a re count
Wood , tiles and roofing materials

You didn't get back to me regarding POP sponge and POP cement -help

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