todaynewsreview:
Ezeife said that it would be alright if the governor of Ebonyi, Mr. David Umahi, eventually gets the presidency ticket

OUK may be a better choice in terms of northern acceptability to me. Even Rochas seems more popular than him.

Allee90:
We Northerners will ONLY support one person from the entire Igbo race. Its Dan Jikan Sokoto(Rochas Okorocha) or Nobody

Notatribalist:
Are you normal?A man convicted for stealing billions? What is wrong with you people?

Seun:
If the president’s tribe matters, which it should not, I think it would clearly be the turn of an Igbo or other south-eastern person to hold the position in 2023. The north would have held power for 11 years, and the south west for 8 years. If we group GEJ with the South East, it would still be their turn since he ruled for only 5 years.

If we can get a very good Igbo president in 2023, their yearning for separation will gradually fade away. Hopefully the Igbo president will not make the same mistakes that Zik, Nzeogwu and Ironsi made in the early days. Mistakes that set the country on a dark path.

fk001:


I support this, only Rochas is worthy of my gote from the East and I just speak the mind of 90% of northerners.

I worked with Rochas, and I still do time to time here in Abuja, he Is the most detribalized igbo on earth. In his office at Unity house Abuja he employed his staff based on credibility regardless of tribe or religion.


I know his people will not vote for him, but I am definitely sure he will have Northern block votes and Some votes from SW.

Nchenches:



[size=4pt]Seun ma dear, Zik was a one Nigeria man. Did that plunge Nigeria into a dark path?


Ironsi took some powers from the regional governments in order to save Nigeria from disintegration. Was that a dark pathway?[/size] Ironsi NEVER dissolved regional government system. [size=4pt]He was killed in the company of the REGIONAL GOVERNOR of SW region.


Nzeogwu coup was a coup of Nigeria armed forces by soldiers from all the major ethnic groups in Nigeria. If that was setting a dark path, how about the many other military coups in Nigeria?[/size]

fk001:


I support this, only Rochas is worthy of my gote from the East and I just speak the mind of 90% of northerners.

I worked with Rochas, and I still do time to time here in Abuja, he Is the most detribalized igbo on earth. In his office at Unity house Abuja he employed his staff based on credibility regardless of tribe or religion.


I know his people will not vote for him, but I am definitely sure he will have Northern block votes and Some votes from SW.

GeneralPula:


Not some but many votes from south west. Rochas is the only sellable credible candidate SE can produce that nearly all the country wouldn’t mind voting for him.,

Sad part for them yeeboz is they been hating on the man long time ago because he isn’t in PDP lol.

GeneralPula:


Not some but many votes from south west. Rochas is the only sellable credible candidate SE can produce that nearly all the country wouldn’t mind voting for him.,

Sad part for them yeeboz is they been hating on the man long time ago because he isn’t in PDP lol.

ThatFairGuy1:

Question!
Is it COMMONSENSICAL for APC to give presidential ticket to SE Against SW? On what ground Should they be given?

Why is it hard for SE to request presidential ticket from party they've laboured for since since inception of 4th Republic?

In Jos convension in 1998, are you referring to the agreement where SE delegates voted for ekweme Against Obasanjo for PDP presidential ticket?

7lives:


Your mumu still never do?.
Last last una brain go reset.

Nchenches:
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If Ironsi earlier abolished regional government system, why then was military governor of Southwest REGION, late Fajuyi, still military governor of SW region when he and Ironsi were killed by northern coupists?

Ojukwu was regional military governor of eastern region, Hassan was military governor of northern region - when Ironsi was killed.

Misterdhee1:

Who and who agreed for the SW in 1999? Was Ekwueme who got 21% of votes (mostly from SE) in the primary election from abeokuta?

Nchenches:



Seun ma dear, Zik was a one Nigeria man. Did that plunge Nigeria into a dark path?

Nchenches:

Ironsi took some powers from the regional governments in order to save Nigeria from disintegration. Was that a dark pathway?

Nchenches:

Ironsi NEVER dissolved regional government system. He was killed in the company of the REGIONAL GOVERNOR of SW region.

Nchenches:

Nzeogwu coup was a coup of Nigeria armed forces by soldiers from all the major ethnic groups in Nigeria. If that was setting a dark path, how about the many other military coups in Nigeria?

lekki1444:
bros are you arguing with what was printed in national newspaper in 1966 ?

lekki1444:
bros are you arguing with what was printed in national newspaper in 1966 ?

Nchenches:


CNN does not print inaccurate headlines?

I gave you practical examples - example of military governors of the regions in Nigeria when Ironsi was killed, long after he took some powers from regional governments to stabilize Nigeria.


But you rely on newspaper headlines.

Nchenches:


CNN does not print inaccurate headlines?

I gave you practical examples - example of military governors of the regions in Nigeria when Ironsi was killed, long after he took some powers from regional governments to stabilize Nigeria.


But you rely on newspaper headlines.

Nchenches:


Fulani shall also ask you who and who in APC agreed with you about rotation of the presidency between north and south?


Fashola has kicked off the debate on agreement over rotation of presidency..


People like you are deepening the debate because you don’t see any Igbo as qualified to preside over Nigeria; you don’t see that rotation of the presidency between north and south is only way to keep peace for development in Nigeria.

SilverNorGold:
2023 APC ticket is for South West.. We Northerners will return the favour.. Professor Osinbajo is the ONE..

2023 PDP ticket should go to South East, in all fairness.. But then, what is fair in PDP? .. The only party where loyalty is rewarded with treachery..

But wetin concern me with husband and wife matter sef? .. PDP the gluttonous husband and South East the malnourished faithful wife.. Let's party hard..

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Misterdhee1:

Please tell us the truth - how popular is apc in Igboland?

Aside that, a pdp igbo candidate vs an apc igbo candidate, who do you think will triumph?

Apc is even much saner to give its ticket to a North Central candidate than risk handing the same ticket to an igbo man.. It's a basic knowledge for any rational person who understands national politics.

lekki1444:
this is the full broadcast here by aguiyyi

https://www.dawodu.com/irons2.htm

"The Regions are Abolished': Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.



Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council. All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.
People are aware that Study Groups have been set up to look into
various aspects of governmental activity. One of them is concerned
with problem relating to the Constitution. This Decree is without
prejudice to their activities and their reports will be given proper
consideration by the National Military Government in formulating the
proposals for the future civilian government.
In my nation-wide radio broadcast of January 28, 1966, I said, among
other things: "We cannot afford to continue with sterile political
strife and mutual recriminations. I have therefore ordered that
there shall be no display in party flags or symbols, and no shouting
of political slogans.'
On March 3, I caused a press release to be issued calling attention
to the fact that political meetings were, in spite of my order, being
held in certain parts of the country, and warned the public and the
press to cooperate with the Federal Military Government in its tasks
of national reconstruction.
In spite of these warnings, political party activities still
continue, either directly, or through various tribal societies and
organizations. The National Military Government owes it as a duty to
the people of this country to remove the ills which infested the
former regime, to restore the faith of our people in their to remove
the ills which infested the former regime, to restore the faith of
our people in their fatherland and its institutions, so that when the
time comes for the civilian government to return, a healthy body
politic would have emerged, and last vestiges of bitter factionalism
removed.
The National Military Government having committed itself to this
task is firmly resolved to conclude it, and will not be diverted from,
or obstructed in, the fulfillment of this objective by the
activities or political manoeuvres of any society, party, union or
association. Part of our task is the removal of politics based on
tribal affiliations which, as everybody knows, have manifested
political intrigues, or have been used as bases for party-political
propaganda. This leads me to the removal of the second obstacle on
the way for which provision has been made in the Public Order Decree
1966, which I have signed today and which comes into operation
forthwith, dissolving all organizations of the type scheduled therein,
and banning any manifestations of their political purpose. These
organizations have been dissolved and will be buried along with the
tribal, sectional and regional bitterness which they engendered.
Certain types of associations and organizations are unaffected and
will remain so, only for as long as they do not engage in any
political activity. It is the cardinal aim of my Government to foster
the growth of town development unions, membership of which should be
open to all inhabitants of the particular town irrespective of their
tribal origin. This does not mean for instance that Efiks residing
outside Calabar should not contribute towards the development of
Calabar development union but it does mean that a Tiv or Hausa
residing in Calabar should be eligible for membership and should be
allowed to participate fully in the development of that town.
This Decree also prohibits the formation of new political parties.
I must emphasize however that the ban on formation of new political
parties is of limited duration and is designed to enable this
corrective government to get on with its task especially at this
initial stage. At the appropriate time provisions will be made
outlining the procedure for the formation of new political
associations.]
I want however to leave no doubt in the mind of anybody, that the
provisions of this decree will certainly be enforced. This is a
Military Regime and soldiers do not allow themselves to be diverted
from or obstructed in the fulfillment of their objectives. With us
the objectives will be pursued with supreme determination and vigor.
In this we need not only the cooperation but the discipline of every
Nigerian.
I wish to make it clear that the prohibition of the formation of new
political associations has no sinister motive. The limitation period
until the 17th of January 1969 may be reduced if the Military
Government accomplishes its aims before then. Our determination is
that until the two decrees I have signed today are abrogated, every
individual should be preoccupied with the task of national
reconstruction, not as ex-politician, but simply as a Nigerian with
faith in his country's destiny.
Malicious rumours designed to mar our national reconstruction
continue to be carried about by certain individuals in spite of my
repeated warnings. Cases of impersonation of officers of the Armed
Forces are still reported. I have to warn again those who indulge in
these criminal acts to discipline themselves forthwith and not to
provoke us into taking very drastic measures which may otherwise
become necessary.
In pursuance of its policy for achieving national unity, my
Government is setting up a body to review all the existing Government-
sponsored newspapers in the context of national unity. This body
will also recommend the most effective organization for running the
Information, Broadcasting and Television Services in the country and
the financial implications involved.
I must not end this broadcast without pointing out a recent
development which, if not checked, will adversely affect the morale
of the Civil Service and thereby hamper our national reconstruction.
By this I mean the unnecessary criticism recently being leveled
against the Civil Service by certain sections of the Press. It is
common knowledge that civil servants are expected to tender advice to
Ministers but it was not obligatory on the part of the former
Ministers to accept advise so tendered. It will therefore be wrong
to blame civil servants for mistakes made by their Ministers who in
many cases did not accept the advice given to them by these officers.

I have to make it abundantly clear to everyone that my Government
will continue to use the services of the present civil servants.
However, my government believes in maintaining the highest standard
of efficiency in the Civil Service and will not hesitate to do away
with anyone found guilty of inefficiency, nepotism, tribalism and
corruption.
I therefore wish to appeal to all newspaper editors and columnists
to look for a more profitable pastime and desist from criticising
civil servants unnecessarily especially as they realize that because
of the tradition of their calling, civil servants are barred from
defending themselves on the pages of newspapers. Such attacks will
certainly not help the Military Government and is sure eventually to
demoralizes members of the Public Service who are rendering such
noble service to this nation under difficult conditions. If any
member of the public has any genuine case against any civil servant,
he or she should make a report to the appropriate quarters.
We are determined to accomplish the main tasks we have set ourselves.
The various problems involved are being studied by the various
working parties which I have set up. Whilst these studies are in
progress my Government cannot remain at a standstill and must
therefore forge ahead in the meantime. As a corrective regime we
must ensure that the fatal maladies of the past are cured before we
relinquish power. We propose as a last act to give the country an
accurate count as well as a Constitution which will guarantee unity,
freedom, and true democracy to all Nigerians everywhere.
Investigations are proceeding in respect of ex-politicians of the
former regime. Any of them found guilty will be dealt with according
to Law irrespective of their position in the community. My
Government will then consider utilizing the services of those who
have not been found wanting and who are prepared to serve in the
context of national unity.
Nigerians must understand and respect one another in the new
national spirit. Those ex-politicians in different camps who
previously regarded one another as enemies should now forget the past
and work together for the common good.
With the dissolution of political parties and tribal unions I want
all Nigerians everywhere in Nigeria to regard one another not as
strangers but as Nigerians with common nationalists irrespective of
their tribe or place of origin. From henceforth no reference to
tribe or place of origin will appear in any official document. . .
Finally, I appeal to all Nigerians and friends of Nigeria to
cooperate with the Military Government in the difficult task of
national reconstruction.

Deadlytruth:


Zik's one-Nigerianism was a euphemism for preference for unitary system which Ironsi eventually helped him impose and which has led to the failed state status of Nigeria till today.


If we are to follow your logic, then the present calls for restructuring (which means a reversal of Ironsi's centralization of powers) will cause Nigeria's disintegration hence the FG is right for not helping the calls for restructuring.
May I ask you whether there was any section of the country asking for disintegration as when we practised regional government before Ironsi came to the scene? You must be a comedian.


What Fajuyi (with whom Ironsi was killed) was governing wasn't a region but the Western Group of provinces which Ironsi replaced the regions with after destroying them with his Unification Decree.
Go and read his May 24 1966 national broadcast and see how he repeatedly described the regions as "former regions" and declared that "Nigeria ceases being what is called a federation but has become simply The Republic of Nigeria". If with all these you still argue that Ironsi left the regions as intact as he met them, then you are simply being tribalistic.


Apart from the 5 majors which composition was 80% Igbo, all the other officers who participated in the coup were merely junior officers who could not have disobeyed the orders of Nzeogwu no matter how much they wished not to have participated.
Moreover, how come a purportedly pan-Nigerian coup recorded casualties of political heavyweights from every other region while those of the Eastern Region were unhurt despite they were major facilitators of the allegedly corrupt government that was accused of leading Nigeria to the doldrums?

Nchenches:


In bold shows you are poorly educated. APC is yet to give its ticket to north central.

The hype about APC ticket in 2023 is because of Nigeria’s election rigging culture where the ruling party rigs to retain the presidency. GEJ literally abdicated the throne out of fear for his life after Obama told Nigerians before the 2015 presidential election to look forward to a new chapter.
What guarantees do you have that north will vote a Yoruba presidential candidate of APC? North distrusts Yoruba Area boys politics.

Misterdhee1:

You're a mumu obviously who obviously has issues with basic grammar. Is it the igbos that killed Western and Northern region leaders in the first republic just to hold on to power that's trusted? No one trusts igbos - and it will likely remain so given the level of hate/superiority complex an average igbo man has in him.

And since you're hellbent on amplifying your ignorant political knowledge, let me sound this to you as a final response - APC is hated by more than 90% of Igbos. It is unjust to give the same region that hate the party so much the party's ticket as against the region that risked everything to get the party to power. It won't happen and will never happen. Igbos deserve the presidency as a major tribe but that should and will come under PDP. Apc's party ticket is between SW/NE. You can write today's date down.